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What's wrong with my new website? What's these date show?

Ronaldo9

2007-07-20, 6:21 am

Hi, I am a newbie in website building. I just build a new site 2
months ago and the visit is nearly 100 unique IP per day now.

But when I check the log and Google Analytics, I found that the
visitors have something strange. The analytics show that there are
nearly 70% visitors "Avg Time on Site" is 00:00:00. What problems can
we find from these data?

Does this date show that the load time of my website is quite slow so
that the visitors could not bear and close it before the website
completely open??
Or it shows that the visitor could open the page but close it after
his first view on the site?
Could you guys help me check your load time of my homepage and tell me
how long will it take?

And could you tell me what's your feeling of my site when you first
visit it. How do you think of it? You can also tell me something about
the color, styles, fonts or everything is welcome.

My website is www.sharewaredown.com
I am look forward to your replies.

SharewareDown.com

Jamie

2007-07-20, 6:17 pm

In <1184921268.960453.224100@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
Ronaldo9 <jinlangzhou@XXXXXXXXXX> mentions:
>Hi, I am a newbie in website building. I just build a new site 2
>months ago and the visit is nearly 100 unique IP per day now.
>
>But when I check the log and Google Analytics, I found that the
>visitors have something strange. The analytics show that there are
>nearly 70% visitors "Avg Time on Site" is 00:00:00. What problems can
>we find from these data?

My sense is that they're visiting and then immediately leaving.

You're best bet is to inspect the logfile, pick an IP number and
follow it.

I'll even venture most of your inbound traffic is from google ads?

I hate to say it, but, google advertising is one of the worst approaches
I have ever seen. (I advertise with them too) 99% of the "ad traffic"
you'll get is from people who've either clicked a link by accident,
the web site owner looking to cash in or someone who's trying to
help the site they came from by clicking on their ads.

It's never someone who is actually interested, that would make too
much sense! :-)

I observe traffic I get from advertising and it's almost always the
same pattern, they load one page (sometimes not even the images) and
then leave.

>Does this date show that the load time of my website is quite slow so
>that the visitors could not bear and close it before the website
>completely open??
>Or it shows that the visitor could open the page but close it after
>his first view on the site?
>Could you guys help me check your load time of my homepage and tell me
>how long will it take?
>
>And could you tell me what's your feeling of my site when you first
>visit it. How do you think of it? You can also tell me something about
>the color, styles, fonts or everything is welcome.

It is rather graphics intensive for my preferences, (but, I'm kind of a barren
sort of person)

I'd make the front page less "noisy" with a brief blurb about what the site
is for, then have many links within the page people can follow. If you're
lucky, you've got maybe 2 seconds to catch their attention if that.

They probably load a portion of the page, say "Oh, crap, I clicked an ad"
and back out right away.

Jamie
--
http://www.geniegate.com Custom web programming
Perl * Java * UNIX User Management Solutions

Beauregard T. Shagnasty

2007-07-20, 6:18 pm

Ronaldo9 wrote:

> Hi, I am a newbie in website building. I just build a new site 2
> months ago and the visit is nearly 100 unique IP per day now.

A hundred per day is good for a site offering little, and that is only
two months old.

> But when I check the log and Google Analytics, I found that the
> visitors have something strange. The analytics show that there are
> nearly 70% visitors "Avg Time on Site" is 00:00:00. What problems can
> we find from these data?

Most likely visitors are seeing a page with nothing but stuff for sale,
and are clicking their back buttons.

> Does this date show that the load time of my website is quite slow so
> that the visitors could not bear and close it before the website
> completely open??

Would you wait five minutes for my main page to open?

> Or it shows that the visitor could open the page but close it after
> his first view on the site?
>
> Could you guys help me check your load time of my homepage and tell me
> how long will it take?

Check yourself:
http://www.websiteoptimization.com/services/analyze/

Global Statistics
Total HTTP Requests: 28
Total Size: 1255889 bytes

What? 1.2 Megabytes for your entry page? Dialup users will leave
immediately.

Download Times*
Connection Rate Download Time
14.4K 978.98 seconds
28.8K 492.29 seconds
33.6K 422.76 seconds
56K 255.90 seconds
ISDN 128K 82.25 seconds
T1 1.44Mbps 12.25 seconds

> And could you tell me what's your feeling of my site when you first
> visit it. How do you think of it? You can also tell me something
> about the color, styles, fonts or everything is welcome.

I love the purple background color.

Try increasing your text size a couple of notches and see the design
fall apart.

The obligatory:
<http://validator.w3.org/check?verbo...waredown.com%2F>
"Failed validation, 57 errors"

<http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/...waredown.com%2F>

> My website is www.sharewaredown.com
> I am look forward to your replies.

It appears as if you found a template somewhere .. and not a very good
one.

--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck

Chris F.A. Johnson

2007-07-21, 3:16 am

On 2007-07-20, Ronaldo9 wrote:
> Hi, I am a newbie in website building. I just build a new site 2
> months ago and the visit is nearly 100 unique IP per day now.
>
> But when I check the log and Google Analytics, I found that the
> visitors have something strange. The analytics show that there are
> nearly 70% visitors "Avg Time on Site" is 00:00:00. What problems can
> we find from these data?

Who's going to spend any time on a site that looks like this?

<http://cfaj.freeshell.org/testing/swd.jpg>

--
Chris F.A. Johnson <http://cfaj.freeshell.org>
===================================================================
Author:
Shell Scripting Recipes: A Problem-Solution Approach (2005, Apress)

Mark Goodge

2007-07-22, 6:16 pm

On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 08:47:48 -0000, Ronaldo9 put finger to keyboard
and typed:

>Hi, I am a newbie in website building. I just build a new site 2
>months ago and the visit is nearly 100 unique IP per day now.
>
>But when I check the log and Google Analytics, I found that the
>visitors have something strange. The analytics show that there are
>nearly 70% visitors "Avg Time on Site" is 00:00:00. What problems can
>we find from these data?
>
>Does this date show that the load time of my website is quite slow so
>that the visitors could not bear and close it before the website
>completely open??
>Or it shows that the visitor could open the page but close it after
>his first view on the site?
>Could you guys help me check your load time of my homepage and tell me
>how long will it take?
>
>And could you tell me what's your feeling of my site when you first
>visit it. How do you think of it? You can also tell me something about
>the color, styles, fonts or everything is welcome.
>
>My website is www.sharewaredown.com
>I am look forward to your replies.

Your site is very slow. So a lot of people could be cclicking the
"stop" or "back" button before the page finishes loading.

http://www.websiteoptimization.com/services/analyze/ will show you how
quickly your site will load on typical connections peeds - ut remember
that loadinging and rendering are different things, and many browsers
on slower systems will take a lot longer to render than they will to
retrieve the data.

Your main problem is that you've got too many large image files in the
page, and you're forcing the browser to resize them by using the
height and width attributes instead of serving the correctly sized
thumbnail images to begin with. This really slows a page down - not
only dows the browser need to retrieve all that unnecessary data, it
then needs to resize the images on the fly. You're also hotlinking to
too many external files - that may be acceptable on individual product
pages if you're linking to their source website, but your front page
and directory listings should only contain images from your own site.

The site isn't a bad design visually, and the code is fairly clean,
but it's let down badly by your inability to manage images correctly.

Mark
--
http://www.MotorwayServices.info - read and share comments and opinons
"I've got too much life running through my veins going to waste"

Ronaldo9

2007-07-23, 3:15 am

> My sense is that they're visiting and then immediately leaving.
>
> You're best bet is to inspect the logfile, pick an IP number and
> follow it.
>
> I'll even venture most of your inbound traffic is from google ads?
>
> I hate to say it, but, google advertising is one of the worst approaches
> I have ever seen. (I advertise with them too) 99% of the "ad traffic"
> you'll get is from people who've either clicked a link by accident,
> the web site owner looking to cash in or someone who's trying to
> help the site they came from by clicking on their ads.
>
> It's never someone who is actually interested, that would make too
> much sense! :-)
>
> I observe traffic I get from advertising and it's almost always the
> same pattern, they load one page (sometimes not even the images) and
> then leave.

> It is rather graphics intensive for my preferences, (but, I'm kind of a barren
> sort of person)
>
> I'd make the front page less "noisy" with a brief blurb about what the site
> is for, then have many links within the page people can follow. If you're
> lucky, you've got maybe 2 seconds to catch their attention if that.
>
> They probably load a portion of the page, say "Oh, crap, I clicked an ad"
> and back out right away.
>
> Jamie
> --http://www.geniegate.com Custom web programming
> PERL * Java * UNIX User Management Solutions

Hi Jamie,
Thanks for your test of my website and give me such useful feedback!

SharewareDown.com
www.sharewaredown.com

Ronaldo9

2007-07-23, 3:15 am

Hi Beauregard T. Shagnasty,
Thanks for your detail analytics information. Yes, I use a template
for my website, and I know is actually not a good one.
Thanks a lot.

SharewareDown.com
www.sharewaredown.com

Ronaldo9

2007-07-23, 3:15 am

> Who's going to spend any time on a site that looks like this?
>
> <http://cfaj.freeshell.org/testing/swd.jpg>
>
> --
> Chris F.A. Johnson <http://cfaj.freeshell.org>
> ===================================================================
> Author:
> Shell Scripting Recipes: A Problem-Solution Approach (2005, Apress)

Hi Johnson,
Can you tell me what's OS and browser are you using? I have test my
website in IE6,IE7,Firefox,Maxthon, and it has no problem.
Look forward to your reply.

SharewareDown.com
www.sharewaredown.com

Chris F.A. Johnson

2007-07-23, 3:15 am

On 2007-07-23, Ronaldo9 wrote:
>
>
> Can you tell me what's OS and browser are you using? I have test my
> website in IE6,IE7,Firefox,Maxthon, and it has no problem.

That screenshot was in Firefox 2.0.0.5.

For my screen and vision, I need to enlarge the type more than
average. Your page does not take that into consideration.

In IE6, the text is far too small to read, and I cannot enlarge it
due to your use of font-sizes set in px.

--
Chris F.A. Johnson <http://cfaj.freeshell.org>
===================================================================
Author:
Shell Scripting Recipes: A Problem-Solution Approach (2005, Apress)