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ALT.WWW.WEBMASTER Statistics for 08/07/2007

Toby Inkster

2007-07-08, 6:17 pm

======================= alt.www.webmaster Statistics =======================
Total posts considered: 235 over 7 days
Earliest article: Sun Jul 1 21:01:13 2007
Latest article: Sun Jul 8 20:01:23 2007
Original articles: 34, replies: 201
Total size of posts: 563,896 bytes (550 kbytes) (0.54 Mbytes)
Average 33 articles per day, 0.08 Mbytes per day, 2,399 bytes per article
Total headers: 284 kbytes, bodies: 265 kbytes
Body: quoted 113 kbytes, original 119 kbytes = 51.20%, sigs 32 kbytes
Total number of posters: 81, average 6,961 bytes per poster
Total number of threads: 53, average 10,639 bytes per thread
Total number of User-Agents: 17
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==================== Top Posters by Number of Messages =====================
Poster Msgs
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1: SpaceGirl ...................................................... 17
2: Jerry Stuckle .................................................. 17
3: Blinky the Shark ............................................... 17
4: BD PC Services ................................................. 14
5: Gwin ........................................................... 8
6: Phil Payne ..................................................... 8
7: Beauregard T. Shagnasty ........................................ 7
8: comments@probertencyclopaedia.com (Matt Probert)................ 6
9: Steve Sobol .................................................... 6
10: Chaddy2222 ..................................................... 6
11: John Hosking ................................................... 5
12: Matt-the-Hoople ................................................ 5
13: GreyWyvern ..................................................... 5
14: WindsorFox ..................................................... 5
15: Viper .......................................................... 5
16: Mark Goodge .................................................... 4
17: Doc O'Leary .................................................... 4
18: SawDust ........................................................ 4
19: Scott Bryce .................................................... 4
20: Terry .......................................................... 3
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======================= Top Posters by Size (kbytes) =======================
Poster Hdrs Quot Orig Sig Total
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1: Jerry Stuckle .................. 26 14 4 2 47
2: BD PC Services ................. 19 13 5 0 38
3: Blinky the Shark ............... 20 10 2 4 38
4: SpaceGirl ...................... 19 6 3 0 29
5: Toby Inkster ................... 0 0 21 0 22
6: Doc O'Leary .................... 6 6 7 0 21
7: Heidi .......................... 0 0 7 11 19
8: Chaddy2222 ..................... 7 8 2 0 18
9: Steve Sobol .................... 7 3 5 0 16
10: Beauregard T. Shagnasty ........ 9 2 2 0 14
11: Gwin ........................... 9 3 1 0 13
12: John Hosking ................... 7 3 2 0 12
13: Mark Goodge .................... 4 3 4 0 12
14: comments@probertencyclopaedia.c. 7 1 2 1 12
15: Phil Payne ..................... 9 0 1 0 11
16: GreyWyvern ..................... 6 1 1 1 10
17: SawDust ........................ 4 3 1 0 9
18: bencoe@XXXXXXXXXX................ 3 0 0 5 9
19: WindsorFox ..................... 4 1 1 1 9
20: Matt-the-Hoople ................ 5 1 1 0 8
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================== Top Posters by Original Text (kbytes) ===================
Poster Total
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1: Doc O'Leary .................................................... 7
2: BD PC Services ................................................. 5
3: Steve Sobol .................................................... 5
4: Jerry Stuckle .................................................. 4
5: Mark Goodge .................................................... 4
6: SpaceGirl ...................................................... 3
7: Chaddy2222 ..................................................... 2
8: Beauregard T. Shagnasty ........................................ 2
9: Blinky the Shark ............................................... 2
10: comments@probertencyclopaedia.com (Matt Probert)................ 2
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=================== Highest Percentage of Original Text ====================
Poster Orig Body %age
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1: Phil Payne ..................................... 0 2 65
2: Steve Sobol .................................... 3 8 57
3: comments@probertencyclopaedia.com (Matt Probe... 1 4 52
4: Matt-the-Hoople ................................ 1 3 50
5: Beauregard T. Shagnasty ........................ 2 5 47
6: John Hosking ................................... 3 5 38
7: SpaceGirl ...................................... 6 10 36
8: GreyWyvern ..................................... 1 4 32
9: WindsorFox ..................................... 1 4 32
10: BD PC Services ................................. 13 18 30
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==================== Lowest Percentage of Original Text ====================
Poster Orig Body %age
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1: Blinky the Shark ............................... 10 17 13
2: Jerry Stuckle .................................. 14 20 20
3: Chaddy2222 ..................................... 8 11 21
4: Gwin ........................................... 3 4 26
5: Viper .......................................... 0 0 29
6: BD PC Services ................................. 13 18 30
7: GreyWyvern ..................................... 1 4 32
8: WindsorFox ..................................... 1 4 32
9: SpaceGirl ...................................... 6 10 36
10: John Hosking ................................... 3 5 38
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==================== Top Threads By Number of Messages =====================
Thread Msgs
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1: Need some help.................................................. 38
2: Mass email marketing/spam....................................... 23
3: IBM OmniFind Yahoo! Edition Software Drives Advanced Search a... 23
4: IBM OmniFind Yahoo! Edition Software Drives Advanced Search a... 11
5: Xbox 360 red and black.......................................... 11
6: No ad's on site................................................. 9
7: Hosting Reseller Providers...................................... 9
8: CMS recommendations............................................. 7
9: Moon and Sun.................................................... 7
10: OT lovely saturday morning...................................... 7
11: Ideas for a website for a tutor?................................ 5
12: CMS I Made for a University Project............................. 5
13: It's Free to Submit you Web here................................ 5
14: dont understand?................................................ 5
15: message board................................................... 4
16: keyword(s) - singular vs plural................................. 4
17: 1websitedesign.net online web design solutions.................. 4
18: Is there a cut-down version of DW available... OR recommend a... 3
19: More Information on Biotechnology............................... 3
20: Turnkey automotive site wanted.................................. 3
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======================= Top Threads By Size (kbytes) =======================
Thread Hdrs Quot Orig Sig Total
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1: Need some help.................. 51 29 15 2 98
2: Mass email marketing/spam....... 33 24 17 4 79
3: IBM OmniFind Yahoo! Edition Sof. 29 9 4 1 46
4: ALT.WWW.WEBMASTER Statistics fo. 0 0 21 0 22
5: IBM OmniFind Yahoo! Edition Sof. 14 4 1 0 21
6: Hosting Reseller Providers...... 10 5 5 0 21
7: CMS I Made for a University Pro. 5 6 1 5 19
8: AWW FAQ July 5, 2007............ 0 0 7 11 19
9: Xbox 360 red and black.......... 11 3 3 0 18
10: No ad's on site................. 11 1 2 0 15
11: CMS recommendations............. 6 3 5 0 15
12: Ideas for a website for a tutor. 4 4 4 0 14
13: Moon and Sun.................... 8 1 3 0 13
14: dont understand?................ 6 3 1 0 11
15: OT lovely saturday morning...... 7 1 1 0 10
16: keyword(s) - singular vs plural. 4 1 2 0 8
17: Is there a cut-down version of . 4 2 1 0 8
18: 1websitedesign.net online web d. 4 0 1 0 7
19: It's Free to Submit you Web her. 5 0 0 0 6
20: message board................... 4 0 1 0 6
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========================= Most Replied-To Messages =========================
Message-ID Replies
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1: <1183682178.277471.46540@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>.......... 21
2: <5f9fmtF3bnnvkU1@mid.individual.net>............................ 6
3: <1183747130.522180.15040@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com>.......... 4
4: <4688ab9e$1@server1.good-stuff.co.uk>........................... 4
5: <1183191465.458299.190170@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com>......... 4
6: <1183455022.614134.312160@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com>......... 4
7: <1183485849.374569.252590@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com>.......... 4
8: <1183734042.473154.94530@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>........... 4
9: <1183462459.269763.88640@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>........... 4
10: <Qavii.1561$Np2.222@trnddc07>................................... 3
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========================= Most Cross-Posted Groups =========================
Group Msgs
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1: uk.net.web.authoring............................................ 6
2: macromedia.dreamweaver.......................................... 4
3: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix............................... 3
4: comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html............................. 3
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=================== Top User-Agents by Number of Posters ===================
User-Agent Posters
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1: G2.............................................................. 35
2: Outlook Express................................................. 14
3: Mozilla Thunderbird............................................. 9
4: Mozilla......................................................... 3
5: Xnews........................................................... 3
6: slrn............................................................ 3
7: pan............................................................. 2
8: Forte Free Agent................................................ 2
9: Forte Agent..................................................... 2
10: 40tude Dialog................................................... 1
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================== Top User-Agents by Number of Messages ===================
User-Agent Msgs
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1: G2.............................................................. 82
2: Mozilla Thunderbird............................................. 48
3: Outlook Express................................................. 25
4: Xnews........................................................... 15
5: slrn............................................................ 13
6: Mozilla......................................................... 8
7: 40tude Dialog................................................... 7
8: Forte Free Agent................................................ 7
9: pan............................................................. 6
10: hidden.......................................................... 6
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======= Bandwidth-Wasting User-Agents by Average Header Size (bytes) =======
User-Agent Hdrs Msgs Avg
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1: Opera M2........................................ 6819 5 1363
2: hidden.......................................... 8020 6 1336
3: 40tude Dialog................................... 9279 7 1325
4: Mozilla......................................... 10564 8 1320
5: Forte Free Agent................................ 9108 7 1301
6: Mozilla Thunderbird............................. 61627 48 1283
7: slrn............................................ 16161 13 1243
8: G2.............................................. 100614 82 1227
9: Xnews........................................... 17955 15 1197
10: pan............................................. 7045 6 1174
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===================== Top Servers by Number of Posters =====================
Posters
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1: googlegroups.com................................................ 35
2: individual.net.................................................. 6
3: news-peer-lilac.gradwell.net.................................... 4
4: postmaster.news.prodigy.com..................................... 4
5: stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net.................................. 3
6: gnilink.net..................................................... 3
7: nntp.comcast.com................................................ 3
8: roadrunner.com.................................................. 2
9: nntp.bt.com..................................................... 2
10: newsfeed.telus.net.............................................. 1
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======================= Top Servers by Size (kbytes) =======================
Server Hdrs Quot Orig Sig Total
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1: googlegroups.com................ 98 38 26 5 168
2: individual.net.................. 37 17 5 4 66
3: nntp.comcast.com................ 38 15 6 2 62
4: news-peer-lilac.gradwell.net.... 6 4 28 0 39
5: roadrunner.com.................. 2 1 7 11 21
6: droleary.usenet................. 6 6 7 0 21
7: newsread.glorb.com.............. 7 3 5 0 16
8: postmaster.news.prodigy.com..... 9 1 3 0 14
9: worldnet.att.net................ 9 2 2 0 14
10: gnilink.net..................... 6 1 4 0 13
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=================== Top Time Zones by Number of Posters ====================
Zone Posters
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1: -0700........................................................... 28
2: UTC............................................................. 26
3: +0100........................................................... 11
4: -0500........................................................... 7
5: -0400........................................................... 6
6: -0600........................................................... 1
7: +0200........................................................... 1
8: +1000........................................................... 1
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=================== Top Time Zones by Number of Messages ===================
Zone Msgs
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1: UTC............................................................. 74
2: -0700........................................................... 73
3: -0400........................................................... 35
4: +0100........................................................... 24
5: -0500........................................................... 18
6: +0200........................................................... 5
7: -0600........................................................... 4
8: +1000........................................................... 2
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================= Days When We are Most in Need of a Life ==================
Day Msgs
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1: Mon............................................................. 32
2: Tue............................................................. 28
3: Wed............................................................. 33
4: Thu............................................................. 35
5: Fri............................................................. 31
6: Sat............................................................. 37
7: Sun............................................................. 22
8: Non-RFC822 Header............................................... 17
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Stats compiled by Toby Inkster.

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Chaddy2222

2007-07-11, 3:17 am

On Jul 9, 5:04 am, Toby Inkster <usenet200...@tobyinkster.co.uk>
wrote:
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> Total posts considered: 235 over 7 days
> Earliest article: Sun Jul 1 21:01:13 2007
> Latest article: Sun Jul 8 20:01:23 2007
> Original articles: 34, replies: 201
> Total size of posts: 563,896 bytes (550 kbytes) (0.54 Mbytes)
> Average 33 articles per day, 0.08 Mbytes per day, 2,399 bytes per article
> Total headers: 284 kbytes, bodies: 265 kbytes
> Body: quoted 113 kbytes, original 119 kbytes =3D 51.20%, sigs 32 kbytes
> Total number of posters: 81, average 6,961 bytes per poster
> Total number of threads: 53, average 10,639 bytes per thread
> Total number of User-Agents: 17
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17
> 2: Jerry Stuckle .................................................. =
17
> 3: Blinky the Shark ............................................... =
17
> 4: BD PC Services ................................................. =
14
> 5: Gwin ........................................................... =
8
> 6: Phil Payne ..................................................... =
8
> 7: Beauregard T. Shagnasty ........................................ =
7
> 8: comme...@probertencyclopaedia.com (Matt Probert)................ =
6
> 9: Steve Sobol .................................................... =
6
> 10: Chaddy2222 ..................................................... =
6
I believe that is the second time I have made the top 10. The question
is: Where have all the regulers gone. It's a bit concerning really, I
only made 6 posts, I can remember is group getting people post around
50 posts in the stats not so long ago. Maybe we are all just to flat-
out working on websites?.
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Matt Probert

2007-07-11, 3:17 am

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:59:22 -0700, Chaddy2222
<spamlovermailbox-sicurity@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

>I believe that is the second time I have made the top 10. The question
>is: Where have all the regulers gone. It's a bit concerning really, I
>only made 6 posts, I can remember is group getting people post around
>50 posts in the stats not so long ago. Maybe we are all just to flat-
>out working on websites?.

I said it before, a lot of the regulars became thoroughly pissed off
with the attitudes and flaming. This group has degenerated into a
rather pointless exercise in futility doing little more than:

a) Spamming Google
b) Spamming Wikipedia

Which is ironic, since Google is under investigation in the UK for
it's poor privacy - storing 18 months worth of data regarding
individuals search results and web surfing, all linked to the
individual's identify, apparently accoding to Radio 4 this morning. Be
afraid, be very afraid!

Matt

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DoobieDo

2007-07-11, 6:16 am

"Matt Probert" <comments@probertencyclopaedia.com> wrote in message
news:469480c1.3267187@news.freenetname.co.uk...

>
> Which is ironic, since Google is under investigation in the UK for
> it's poor privacy - storing 18 months worth of data regarding
> individuals search results and web surfing, all linked to the
> individual's identify, apparently accoding to Radio 4 this morning. Be
> afraid, be very afraid!
>

Radio 4 is always weeks behind... ;p

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6221256.stm

Chaddy2222

2007-07-11, 10:17 pm

On Jul 11, 5:06 pm, comme...@probertencyclopaedia.com (Matt Probert)
wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:59:22 -0700, Chaddy2222
>
> <spamlovermailbox-sicur...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> I said it before, a lot of the regulars became thoroughly pissed off
> with the attitudes and flaming. This group has degenerated into a
> rather pointless exercise in futility doing little more than:
>
> a) Spamming Google
> b) Spamming Wikipedia
>
> Which is ironic, since Google is under investigation in the UK for
> it's poor privacy - storing 18 months worth of data regarding
> individuals search results and web surfing, all linked to the
> individual's identify, apparently accoding to Radio 4 this morning. Be
> afraid, be very afraid!
>
> Matt
>
Actually speaking of Google I downloaded the Google Pack the other day
*on my parents PC mind you, (I would not subject my own machine to
that kind of shite), the bad part about that was that. I did not have
access to my computer at the time (and the other machine did not have
Addobie Reader, which I needed. But I only wanted the 1 bit of
software!.
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Regards Chad. http://freewebdesign.awardspace.biz

Auggie

2007-07-12, 3:16 am

"Chaddy2222" <spamlovermailbox-sicurity@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:1184137162.185536.51080@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> I believe that is the second time I have made the top 10. The question
> is: Where have all the regulers gone. It's a bit concerning really, I
> only made 6 posts, I can remember is group getting people post around
> 50 posts in the stats not so long ago. Maybe we are all just to flat-
> out working on websites?.

If you scan the FROM list in the group you'll see that almost all the
regulars are still here...

If you go back and read the group back when it took 50+ posts to make the
top ten you'll see that it was basically just 2-3 people who would argue all
the time, make plenty of off topic posts or just reply to every single post
in the group (including spam) with stupid little 1 line replies like "I
agree" or "Hey ____ how you doing?", etc.

The volume of posts went up because others would get caught up in the
arguments or reply to the OT posts and make 1 line replies as well.

Despite the number of posts being down, I would say that the overall content
of the group (number of on topic posts or posts with relevant content) is
about the same.

Can't really comment on the work aspect of it, but maybe. I stopped working
for clients other than myself back in 2002 but last fall I started accepting
a few other jobs and have been finding that there does seem to be more work
out there than there was just a few years ago but thats hard to say about
the "big picture" of the market, but maybe.

Blinky the Shark

2007-07-12, 6:16 am

Auggie wrote:
>
> "Chaddy2222" <spamlovermailbox-sicurity@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:1184137162.185536.51080@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> If you scan the FROM list in the group you'll see that almost all the
> regulars are still here...
>
> If you go back and read the group back when it took 50+ posts to make the
> top ten you'll see that it was basically just 2-3 people who would argue all
> the time, make plenty of off topic posts or just reply to every single post
> in the group (including spam) with stupid little 1 line replies like "I
> agree" or "Hey ____ how you doing?", etc.

Right.

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Els

2007-07-12, 6:16 pm

In article <slrnf9bv4f.lpo.no.spam@thurston.blinkynet.net>,
Blinky the Shark <no.spam@box.invalid> wrote:

> Auggie wrote:
>
> Right.

<g>

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Chaddy2222

2007-07-12, 6:16 pm

On Jul 12, 4:49 pm, "Auggie" <Imperial.Pal...@Rome.It> wrote:
> "Chaddy2222" <spamlovermailbox-sicur...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
>
> news:1184137162.185536.51080@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> If you scan the FROM list in the group you'll see that almost all the
> regulars are still here...
>
> If you go back and read the group back when it took 50+ posts to make the
> top ten you'll see that it was basically just 2-3 people who would argue all
> the time, make plenty of off topic posts or just reply to every single post
> in the group (including spam) with stupid little 1 line replies like "I
> agree" or "Hey ____ how you doing?", etc.
>
> The volume of posts went up because others would get caught up in the
> arguments or reply to the OT posts and make 1 line replies as well.
>
> Despite the number of posts being down, I would say that the overall content
> of the group (number of on topic posts or posts with relevant content) is
> about the same.
>
> Can't really comment on the work aspect of it, but maybe. I stopped working
> for clients other than myself back in 2002 but last fall I started accepting
> a few other jobs and have been finding that there does seem to be more work
> out there than there was just a few years ago but thats hard to say about
> the "big picture" of the market, but maybe.

On that particular subject, it would be hard to say. It might be more
although there might be less work for designers. A case in point would
be the amount of organisations now begining to use CMS's for the
management of web content and templates. Although with that said I do
notice that some organisations that make OS products such as CMS
systems that some do offer payed support for such services.
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