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Nathan W. Collier

2007-11-18, 3:15 am

i want to be able to embed a streaming web cam into a web page. ive found a
couple applications that will embed still pictures from a web cam that is
refreshed every so often, but nothing that will embed the video stream. any
help would be appreciated.

id also like for the bandwidth load burden to carried by the server hosting
the web page and not my connection to the server (i want to upload a single
video feed on my home internet connection, and have the server hosting the
page provide all the bandwidth for more connections than my home connection
is able to provide).
thanks,

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Red E. Kilowatt

2007-11-18, 6:17 pm

Nathan W. Collier <no@way.com> wrote in message:
6qSdnbc-Q8r-W6LanZ2dnUVZ_vyinZ2d@bresnan.com,

> i want to be able to embed a streaming web cam into a web page. ive
> found a couple applications that will embed still pictures from a web
> cam that is refreshed every so often, but nothing that will embed the
> video stream. any help would be appreciated.
>
> id also like for the bandwidth load burden to carried by the server
> hosting the web page and not my connection to the server (i want to
> upload a single video feed on my home internet connection, and have
> the server hosting the page provide all the bandwidth for more
> connections than my home connection is able to provide).
> thanks,


You and me both. Please let me know if you figure out how to do all
this.

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\(not quite so\) Fat Sam

2007-11-18, 6:17 pm

Red E. Kilowatt wrote:
> Nathan W. Collier <no@way.com> wrote in message:
> 6qSdnbc-Q8r-W6LanZ2dnUVZ_vyinZ2d@bresnan.com,
>
>
> You and me both. Please let me know if you figure out how to do all
> this.


I suspect this could be done with a nearly-live stream.
For example, your local computer with a webcam attached records a 10 second
clip and uploads it to the server. Then immediately starts recording another
10 second clip with the same name to upload and replace the previous one.
Your page on your server would have the clip embedded into it, and you set
the page to refresh every 10 seconds.
The stream your visitors see wouldn't be live, but it would be as near as
damn it, with only a 10 second delay.


Nathan W. Collier

2007-11-18, 6:17 pm

"Red E. Kilowatt" <spamtrap@aww-faq.org> wrote in message
news:47407a29$1$32509$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> You and me both. Please let me know if you figure out how to do all this.


surely there is a way. back around 2001 i installed a lift kit in a jeep in
a live webcast. i only had a 384k upload from my home connection so i
uploaded the .html page to free webspace provided by my ISP and just
uploaded my camera from home to that page. i had hundreds of folks tune in
for the installation so im satisfied that the burden of the download was
carried by my ISP based .html page. problem is, i dont remember know how
the heck i did it then.

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Dave Kelly

2007-11-18, 6:17 pm

On Nov 18, 1:51 pm, "Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJee...@aol.com> wrote:
> "Red E. Kilowatt" <spamt...@aww-faq.org> wrote in messagenews:47407a29$1$32509$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
>
> surely there is a way. back around 2001 i installed a lift kit in a jeep in
> a live webcast. i only had a 384k upload from my home connection so i
> uploaded the .html page to free webspace provided by my ISP and just
> uploaded my camera from home to that page. i had hundreds of folks tune in
> for the installation so im satisfied that the burden of the download was
> carried by my ISP based .html page. problem is, i dont remember know how
> the heck i did it then.
>
> --
> Nathan In Montanahttp://BighornTactical.comhttp://ConcealedCarryForum.comhttp://1911Talk.comhttp://GlockCarry.comhttp://HiPowerTalk.comhttp://p99sw99.comhttp://PPStalk.comhttp://P7talk.com


What operating system are you running?
Jeff

2007-11-19, 3:17 am

Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> i want to be able to embed a streaming web cam into a web page. ive found a
> couple applications that will embed still pictures from a web cam that is
> refreshed every so often, but nothing that will embed the video stream. any
> help would be appreciated.


How are you "streaming" the video from your webserver? Real
streaming takes a specialized server.

Jeff


>
> id also like for the bandwidth load burden to carried by the server hosting
> the web page and not my connection to the server (i want to upload a single
> video feed on my home internet connection, and have the server hosting the
> page provide all the bandwidth for more connections than my home connection
> is able to provide).
> thanks,
>

Nathan W. Collier

2007-11-19, 3:17 am

"Dave Kelly" <daveekelly1@embarqmail.com> wrote in message
news:9879f7bf-7a76-4bc2-8de5-bbd9ccfd6fce@l1g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> What operating system are you running?


my apologies. XP on my desktop, full root access on a win2k server for my
remote web server.

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http://P7talk.com


Nathan W. Collier

2007-11-19, 3:17 am

"Jeff" <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote in message
news:13k248ogpn7t298@corp.supernews.com...
> How are you "streaming" the video from your webserver? Real streaming
> takes a specialized server.


my intent is to upload the web cam via local application to the web server
embedded into a web page. i see advertisements for live interactive web cam
sex shows all the time in spam emails so im sure its possible.

--
Nathan In Montana
http://BighornTactical.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
http://1911Talk.com
http://HiPowerTalk.com
http://GlockCarry.com
http://p99sw99.com
http://PPStalk.com
http://P7talk.com


Mark Goodge

2007-11-19, 3:17 am

On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:31:52 -0700, Nathan W. Collier put finger to
keyboard and typed:

>"Jeff" <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote in message
>news:13k248ogpn7t298@corp.supernews.com...
>
>my intent is to upload the web cam via local application to the web server
>embedded into a web page. i see advertisements for live interactive web cam
>sex shows all the time in spam emails so im sure its possible.


That does reqire specialised streaming software on the server.

It's very easy to have a simple, one-shot image that gets refreshed
repeatedly (eg, every few minutes, or even every minute), because all
you need to do is serve the file from the web server and repeatedly
re-upload and overwrite it. But a live stream can't simply be
"uploaded" in the same way - it isn't a single file that you can
refresh; instead, the server has to read your own live stream and then
re-broadcast it. That requires the server itself to be running
streaming software, you can't do it just by embedding something into
an HTML page.

Mark
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Jeff

2007-11-19, 6:19 pm

Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> "Jeff" <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote in message
> news:13k248ogpn7t298@corp.supernews.com...
>
>
>
> my intent is to upload the web cam via local application to the web server
> embedded into a web page.



You still need software on the server (and something on the client) to
do the streaming. Uploading the content for that can be done a number of
different ways.

So, does your chosen webhost do streaming? If it doesn't, then there
is no need to upload the content.

Otherwise, you can fake something, as others have suggested.

i see advertisements for live interactive web cam
> sex shows all the time in spam emails so im sure its possible.


Absolutely. Although my spam filter catches those.

You may wish to read up on this and talk to your web host:

<URL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streaming_media />

or do a more thorough search for a third party. This wasn't hard to find:

<URL: http://www.camstreams.com//>

It's been a number of years since I've done anything like this and
technology moves on... There's no single way to do this...

Jeff

>

Nathan W. Collier

2007-11-19, 6:19 pm

"Jeff" <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote in message
news:13k37je2ts0f137@corp.supernews.com...
> So, does your chosen webhost do streaming? If it doesn't, then there is
> no need to upload the content.


i have root access to my own server and can install anything needed to
accomplish this task. i simply dont know what all is needed.


> <URL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streaming_media />
>
> or do a more thorough search for a third party. This wasn't hard to find:
>
> <URL: http://www.camstreams.com//>
>
> It's been a number of years since I've done anything like this and
> technology moves on... There's no single way to do this...


thanks,

--
Nathan In Montana
http://BighornTactical.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
http://1911Talk.com
http://HiPowerTalk.com
http://GlockCarry.com
http://p99sw99.com
http://PPStalk.com
http://P7talk.com


Dave Kelly

2007-11-19, 10:15 pm

On Nov 19, 10:15 am, "Nathan W. Collier" <n...@way.com> wrote:
'RocketBoom' had a java script that IIRC worked like you want.

A couple of years ago I played around with it. You might see if you
can trace it down. I think it was the standard play a movie code you
find in the tutorals.
Nathan W. Collier

2007-11-20, 6:18 pm

"Dave Kelly" <daveekelly1@embarqmail.com> wrote in message
news:6836f03e-7968-4a72-b676-c074ad9c1f5c@w28g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 19, 10:15 am, "Nathan W. Collier" <n...@way.com> wrote:
> 'RocketBoom' had a java script that IIRC worked like you want.


many thanks, the search begins.

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Nathan In Montana
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http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
http://1911Talk.com
http://HiPowerTalk.com
http://GlockCarry.com
http://p99sw99.com
http://PPStalk.com
http://P7talk.com


Jeff

2007-11-21, 6:17 pm

Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> "Dave Kelly" <daveekelly1@embarqmail.com> wrote in message
> news:6836f03e-7968-4a72-b676-c074ad9c1f5c@w28g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> many thanks, the search begins.
>

You have several issues to deal with, the server, the client and the
cost! Not to mention server bandwidth depending on technology.

Here's some Open Source links:

<URL: http://ffmpeg.mplayerhq.hu/ >

<URL: http://mediaframe.org/ />

<URL: http://mpeg4ip.sourceforge.net/ />

All of those have some issue or another.

It's probably easier to throw money at it. Or fake it. Let us know
when you have something online.

Jeff
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