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Bacchus God of Wine

2007-10-26, 3:37 am

I have switched to building sites based on CSS.

I have a problem with IE, it won't play nice

On about 90% of computers in the world my designs
work ok, but then there are some where they fall apart.

It is something about IE and certain computers.

Does anyone know of any tutorial to hacked
the bad behavior from IE??

Thanks

Chaddy2222

2007-10-26, 6:16 am

"Bacchus God of Wine" <zoraster@REMOVEmasterwinemaker.com> wrote in message
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>I have switched to building sites based on CSS.
>
> I have a problem with IE, it won't play nice
>
> On about 90% of computers in the world my designs
> work ok, but then there are some where they fall apart.
>
> It is something about IE and certain computers.
>
> Does anyone know of any tutorial to hacked
> the bad behavior from IE??
>
> Thanks
Maybe check out, http://www.htmldog.com they have some good tutorials. But
as for IE, v 6 does have a lot of bugs with rendering CSS.

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Regards Chad.
http://freewebdesign.awardspace.biz

Brian Cryer

2007-10-26, 6:16 am

"Bacchus God of Wine" <zoraster@REMOVEmasterwinemaker.com> wrote in message
news:syfUi.1710$Vx3.317@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com...
>I have switched to building sites based on CSS.
>
> I have a problem with IE, it won't play nice
>
> On about 90% of computers in the world my designs
> work ok, but then there are some where they fall apart.
>
> It is something about IE and certain computers.
>
> Does anyone know of any tutorial to hacked
> the bad behavior from IE??

Here or alt.html or ... presumably there must be a newsgroups devoted
specifically to css?

I suggest you cross-post here and in alt.html (don't multi-post) with the
url and a description of the problem you are seeing and include the browser
versions that give the problem if you think it is browser specific.
--
Brian Cryer
www.cryer.co.uk/brian

Secret Agent X

2007-10-26, 6:16 am

Bacchus God of Wine <zoraster@REMOVEmasterwinemaker.com> wrote:

>I have switched to building sites based on CSS.
>
>I have a problem with IE, it won't play nice
>
>On about 90% of computers in the world my designs
>work ok, but then there are some where they fall apart.
>
>It is something about IE and certain computers.
>
>Does anyone know of any tutorial to hacked
>the bad behavior from IE??
>
>Thanks

There is a very simple solution. Keep it simple.

If you tried to drive across the Sahara desert in a Rover Metro would
you complain everytime the car broke down "that it wasn't playing
nice?" or would you accept that perhaps you were trying to force it to
do something beyond its design capabilities?

IE works fine with all the CSS suggestions I give it. All browsers
have problems when you try implementing complex absolute positiong,
layers and the like, because HTML was never designed for that.

X

Beauregard T. Shagnasty

2007-10-26, 6:19 pm

Bacchus God of Wine wrote:

> I have switched to building sites based on CSS.

Ahh, moving into the 21st century. ;-)

In answer to the question in your subject line:
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.styesheets

--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck

Bacchus God of Wine

2007-10-26, 6:19 pm

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> There is a very simple solution. Keep it simple.

thanks but there the slight possibility that I still don't
fully understand CSS yet.

Jeff

2007-10-26, 6:19 pm

Bacchus God of Wine wrote:

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>
> thanks but there the slight possibility that I still don't
> fully understand CSS yet.

Some things are very easy and reliable to do across all browsers. Like
setting fonts and margins and padding (there's a few caveats and
encouragement to use a doctype with a path to get the boxmodel right and
not in quirks mode).

Some things like tableless layouts are very difficult.

My general rule for CSS is to use as few classes as possible and
style by element under a decendant.

In other words, dont do this:

<div>
<p class="fancy">...</p>
<p class="fancy">...</p>
<p class="fancy">...</p>
<p class="fancy">...</p>
<ul class="fancy_list">...
</div>

do this instead:

<div id="fancy">
<p>...</p>
<p>...</p>
<ul>..

and style it like this:

#fancy p{}
#fancy ul{}

and set default styles in the body

body{default styles for page}

You may need to add td and th for some browsers.

I mention that because many people don't do it that way. And you wind
up with a lot of extra unneeded markup.

Jeff

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