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Why people call my sites crap?

Sanny

2007-01-27, 11:09 pm

I have many nice sites which I like but many people call them crap
sites.

What should be done so that a site do not look crap to site visitors.

The punishment I get is my products are not selling as they should.

I found my products getting 500-600 hits on others site while on my
site only 100-200 people visited though the product is mine. Why people
choose others website than mine.

Google has not listed any of my pages So I do not get any visitors from
Google.

However Yahoo brings 10-20 hits daily. Can anyone suggest some way to
improve my site so that my products get sold.

Bye
Sanny

Big Bill

2007-01-27, 11:09 pm

On 23 Jan 2007 02:18:04 -0800, "Sanny" <softtanks@hotmail.com> wrote:

>I have many nice sites which I like but many people call them crap
>sites.
>
>What should be done so that a site do not look crap to site visitors.
>
>The punishment I get is my products are not selling as they should.
>
>I found my products getting 500-600 hits on others site while on my
>site only 100-200 people visited though the product is mine. Why people
>choose others website than mine.
>
>Google has not listed any of my pages So I do not get any visitors from
>Google.
>
>However Yahoo brings 10-20 hits daily. Can anyone suggest some way to
>improve my site so that my products get sold.
>
>Bye
>Sanny

Telling people where it is would be a start.

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Chaddy2222

2007-01-27, 11:09 pm

Sanny wrote:
> I have many nice sites which I like but many people call them crap
> sites.
>
Hmmm so do I...... Wankers the lot of them.
(slowly removes some bodelly part from cheak.)

Dam, that sounds so wrong it's not funny.

> What should be done so that a site do not look crap to site visitors.
>
Hmmm, go and get a brick and throw it through the visiters monitors. (
it will work really well on the old CRT monitors).

> The punishment I get is my products are not selling as they should.
>
> I found my products getting 500-600 hits on others site while on my
> site only 100-200 people visited though the product is mine. Why people
> choose others website than mine.
>
Cause umm well, the bloody thing appears to be dam well invisible. (MY
god that took a few goes at getting that word right.)
I probly shouldn't really drink burban before posting on this NG.

> Google has not listed any of my pages So I do not get any visitors from
> Google.
>
> However Yahoo brings 10-20 hits daily. Can anyone suggest some way to
> improve my site so that my products get sold.

> Bye
Buggerd if I know (Oh and for all you pombs who frequent this group,
(no the term buggerd in this case does not involve my arse.)
OK, i've got no idea where I was going with that last comment.

> Sanny
In short, give us the url to your site so we can take a peak.
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Andy Dingley

2007-01-27, 11:09 pm

Sanny wrote:

> I have many nice sites which I like but many people call them crap
> sites.

http://www.getclub.com/Chess.html

It's not crap, it's _vile_. Crap would be a good idea, done badly.
Yours are so fundamentally wrong in every inten that there is no point
in merely listing their technical failings.

They look amateurish, and that of an ignorant amateur from around the
mid '90s. Rather than content you favour cutesy animated .gif clip art
of the lowest quality. The page has everything thrown randomly onto it,
with no sense of purpose behind it. Looking at it is like staring into
the mind of a paranoid schizophrenic, a vast seething mass of aimless
random activity all clamouring for attention. It's one huge spaffing
jazzmonkey of a site.

The only thing that resembles "content" on there is a vast java applet
that takes aeons and usually manages to crash the browser once every
few page views.

> What should be done so that a site do not look crap to site visitors.

In your case, just give up. If you don't know why, you're beyond hope.
If you really think that this site is anything other than a caricature
of how bad web design can get, then you are so devoid of clue that you
should never pick up an editor again.

> The punishment I get is my products are not selling as they should.

Your product is terrible. If it sells at all, it's a miracle. Ralph
Nader should be pursuing you.

You are a spammer and a buffoon. Your chess program is terrible and
your attitude in touting anywhere and everywhere has alienated any
possible goodwill there might ever have been towards you or it.

> Google has not listed any of my pages So I do not get any visitors from
> Google.

Google is a mere non-sentient machine, yet you've still managed to
offend its aesthetic sensibilities.

> However Yahoo brings 10-20 hits daily.

That says more about the ignorance of Yahoo's trailer-park userbase
than it does about your site.

> Bye
> Sanny

Your inability to distinguish usenet from a personal conversation is
symptomatic of the fundamental malaise beneath your site. We are not
your friends. We are not having a pleasant face to face lunch. Don't
pretend that we have any sort of humanity in common; we don't and your
implication that we do is as creepy as finding clowns in your bed.

There are many people who write bad sites, but you're well beyond this.
I wonder if you're actually indexed in the DSM-IV? Your very
perceptions of reality appear to be warped in a way that goes beyond
the W3C and out into the realms of Jung.

Please. Simply stop.
Find another purpose for your life, perhaps something in the
grass-roots aluminium can recycling trade.

Toby Inkster

2007-01-27, 11:09 pm

Sanny wrote:

> What should be done so that a site do not look crap to site visitors.

Without a URL, we really can't tell.

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Chaddy2222

2007-01-27, 11:09 pm

Andy Dingley wrote:
> Sanny wrote:
>
>

> http://www.getclub.com/Chess.html

Wow, if that's his site, then I agree with everyone else.

>
> It's not crap, it's _vile_. Crap would be a good idea, done badly.
> Yours are so fundamentally wrong in every inten that there is no point
> in merely listing their technical failings.
>
> They look amateurish, and that of an ignorant amateur from around the
> mid '90s. Rather than content you favour cutesy animated .gif clip art
> of the lowest quality. The page has everything thrown randomly onto it,
> with no sense of purpose behind it. Looking at it is like staring into
> the mind of a paranoid schizophrenic, a vast seething mass of aimless
> random activity all clamouring for attention. It's one huge spaffing
> jazzmonkey of a site.
>
I would not even go that far, I mean it would insault people with
interlectual disabilities.

> The only thing that resembles "content" on there is a vast java applet
> that takes aeons and usually manages to crash the browser once every
> few page views.
>
I agree.
>
> In your case, just give up. If you don't know why, you're beyond hope.
> If you really think that this site is anything other than a caricature
> of how bad web design can get, then you are so devoid of clue that you
> should never pick up an editor again.
>
>
> Your product is terrible. If it sells at all, it's a miracle. Ralph
> Nader should be pursuing you.
>
> You are a spammer and a buffoon. Your chess program is terrible and
> your attitude in touting anywhere and everywhere has alienated any
> possible goodwill there might ever have been towards you or it.
>
>
>
> Google is a mere non-sentient machine, yet you've still managed to
> offend its aesthetic sensibilities.
>
>
> That says more about the ignorance of Yahoo's trailer-park userbase
> than it does about your site.
Interestingly enough, Yahoo don't seam to give a stuff about sites that
spam them with sites filled with Keywords etc.
So that might explain a lot.

>
>
> Your inability to distinguish usenet from a personal conversation is
> symptomatic of the fundamental malaise beneath your site. We are not
> your friends. We are not having a pleasant face to face lunch. Don't
> pretend that we have any sort of humanity in common; we don't and your
> implication that we do is as creepy as finding clowns in your bed.
>
> There are many people who write bad sites, but you're well beyond this.
> I wonder if you're actually indexed in the DSM-IV? Your very
> perceptions of reality appear to be warped in a way that goes beyond
> the W3C and out into the realms of Jung.
>
> Please. Simply stop.
> Find another purpose for your life, perhaps something in the
> grass-roots aluminium can recycling trade.
Maybe one of his main problems is that he builds sites that he likes, I
mean, it's all about the visiters and what they like / want / need from
the site rather then what the designer likes as a personal prefference.
I mean, if that was not the case, all my sites would be uglier then
they already are *not that I am implying anything*.
They would all probly be plain text though (hang on) they already
baysicly are!.
That's why I like CSS, you can suggest more of a style to the user, but
if they don't like it they can override it and suggest their own
styleing.
But, they can still get the content, even without CSS.

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Paul B

2007-01-27, 11:09 pm

On 23 Jan 2007 02:18:04 -0800, "Sanny" <softtanks@hotmail.com> wrote:

>I have many nice sites which I like but many people call them crap
>sites.

May be they are, but we cannot tell without you giving a URL.

>What should be done so that a site do not look crap to site visitors.

Hard to tell without seeing them.

>The punishment I get is my products are not selling as they should.

>I found my products getting 500-600 hits on others site while on my
>site only 100-200 people visited though the product is mine. Why people
>choose others website than mine.

hits are calls to the server. That is not the same as visitors.

>Google has not listed any of my pages So I do not get any visitors from
>Google.

Are you using java menus ? blackhat ? not enough unique content ?

>However Yahoo brings 10-20 hits daily. Can anyone suggest some way to
>improve my site so that my products get sold.

URL ?

>Bye
>Sanny

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Fat Sam

2007-01-27, 11:09 pm

Andy Dingley wrote:
> Sanny wrote:
>
>
> http://www.getclub.com/Chess.html

How did you find it?

Fat Sam

2007-01-27, 11:09 pm

Andy Dingley wrote:
> Sanny wrote:
>
>
> http://www.getclub.com/Chess.html

My God, it's like Homer Simpsons first website.

Andy Dingley

2007-01-27, 11:09 pm

Fat Sam wrote:

>
> How did you find it?

Sanny's poor reputation precedes him. Try any of the chess newsgroups.

Matt Probert

2007-01-27, 11:09 pm

On 23 Jan 2007 02:18:04 -0800, "Sanny" <softtanks@hotmail.com> wrote:

>I have many nice sites which I like but many people call them crap
>sites.

You and me both. Except I have just the one site, and it occured to me
that perhaps (with the realisation that I am an eccentric) my idea of
"nice" differs from the general, that I should ask people what they
dislike about my site.

Heck were they brutal!

But it helped to improve the site.

Try it. But buy a box of Kleenex first <g>

Matt

Matt Probert

2007-01-27, 11:09 pm

On 23 Jan 2007 03:54:20 -0800, "Andy Dingley" <dingbat@codesmiths.com>
wrote:

>
>Sanny wrote:
>
>
>http://www.getclub.com/Chess.html
>

This site suffers from the cliche of adding animated gifs for the sake
of it. Not to mention a colour scheme even I would be proud of (and I
have absolutely no taste whatsoever)

No, this is amateurish. Gimmicks thrown together in an uncordinated
mess of business.

Scrap them all, and think minimalist.

Matt

Matt Probert

2007-01-27, 11:09 pm

On 23 Jan 2007 05:09:13 -0800, "Andy Dingley" <dingbat@codesmiths.com>
wrote:

>Fat Sam wrote:
>
>
>Sanny's poor reputation precedes him. Try any of the chess newsgroups.
>

Chess newsgroups? I think I'd rather chew broken glass <g>

Matt

Dylan Parry

2007-01-27, 11:09 pm

Matt Probert wrote:

> Chess newsgroups? I think I'd rather chew broken glass <g>

Which variety would Sir prefer; brown, green, or white? I hear the green
is a particularly good year, Sir.

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