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Making a site such as only I or the client can see it?
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| patrick j 2007-01-27, 11:08 pm |
| Hi
I'm going to suggest to a friend of mine that I create a web-site for
her. She lives in London and I live in Brighton.
I'd like it if I could put the web-site up on a server such that I or
she can see it but nobody else. This is so she can have a look at it
during the period it is being created.
Is there an easy way to do this?
If I put the site up on a server for her to view it using her browser
then how do I prevent it from being included in Google and other search
engines?
Could I password protect it in some way for example?
TIA
--
Patrick
Brighton, UK
<http://www.patrickjames.me.uk>
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| SpaceGirl 2007-01-27, 11:08 pm |
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patrick j wrote:
> Hi
>
> I'm going to suggest to a friend of mine that I create a web-site for
> her. She lives in London and I live in Brighton.
>
> I'd like it if I could put the web-site up on a server such that I or
> she can see it but nobody else. This is so she can have a look at it
> during the period it is being created.
>
> Is there an easy way to do this?
>
> If I put the site up on a server for her to view it using her browser
> then how do I prevent it from being included in Google and other search
> engines?
>
> Could I password protect it in some way for example?
>
> TIA
We hide sites under a subdomain that's password protected - only myself
and the client know the url and the password. Example
somethclient.northleithmill.com
xSpace
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| J.O. Aho 2007-01-27, 11:08 pm |
| patrick j wrote:
> Hi
>
> I'm going to suggest to a friend of mine that I create a web-site for
> her. She lives in London and I live in Brighton.
>
> I'd like it if I could put the web-site up on a server such that I or
> she can see it but nobody else. This is so she can have a look at it
> during the period it is being created.
>
> Is there an easy way to do this?
Apache has the access control support, that will give you easy way to password
protect parts of the web servers pages (of course you can do it for all too),
for Apache 1.3.x see: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/howto/auth.html
for Apache 2.x see: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/howto/auth.html
using the built in features of Apache, you don't need to write special login
features or use server side scripting and so on, just old plain HTML files
works fine.
--
//Aho
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| patrick j 2007-01-27, 11:08 pm |
| On Jan 17, 2007 SpaceGirl wrote:
> We hide sites under a subdomain that's password protected - only myself
> and the client know the url and the password. Example
> somethclient.northleithmill.com
Thank you that is a very good idea.
--
Patrick
Brighton, UK
<http://www.patrickjames.me.uk>
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| dorayme 2007-01-27, 11:08 pm |
| In article
<0001HW.C1D40320007B6273B032294F@News.Individual.Net>,
patrick j <patrick@jamesnews.orangehome.co.uk> wrote:
> I'd like it if I could put the web-site up on a server such that I or
> she can see it but nobody else. This is so she can have a look at it
> during the period it is being created.
>
> Is there an easy way to do this?
>
> If I put the site up on a server for her to view it using her browser
> then how do I prevent it from being included in Google and other search
> engines?
You have had general advice about password protecting pages. What
I do is simply put stuff up in a folder on domains under my
control, the addresses highly unlikely to be quickly stumbled
upon. And anyone who does is highly unlikely to have any interest
or connection with you or client or likely to cause any problems.
It takes a while to get noticed in search engines.
Not saying you should not password protect (it might even look
geeky and neat for the client!), just that is it worth it given
the very small risks involved?
Unless... unless... PATRICK! WHAT IS THIS SITE ABOUT? <g>
--
dorayme
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| patrick j 2007-01-27, 11:08 pm |
| On Jan 17, 2007 dorayme wrote:
> You have had general advice about password protecting pages. What
> I do is simply put stuff up in a folder on domains under my
> control, the addresses highly unlikely to be quickly stumbled
> upon. And anyone who does is highly unlikely to have any interest
> or connection with you or client or likely to cause any problems.
> It takes a while to get noticed in search engines.
>
> Not saying you should not password protect (it might even look
> geeky and neat for the client!), just that is it worth it given
> the very small risks involved?
That is appealing in its simplicity but I fear that the search engines
will have their bots doing their thing and then the pages will be found
that way.
> Unless... unless... PATRICK! WHAT IS THIS SITE ABOUT? <g>
This is between me and MI5/MI6/CIA :)
--
Patrick
Brighton, UK
<http://www.patrickjames.me.uk>
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| Ed Mullen 2007-01-27, 11:08 pm |
| patrick j wrote:
> On Jan 17, 2007 dorayme wrote:
>
>
> That is appealing in its simplicity but I fear that the search engines
> will have their bots doing their thing and then the pages will be found
> that way.
One thing you could do during development is simply change the name of
the page file every day. Like:
http://yourdomain.com/2007-01-17.html
http://yourdomain.com/2007-01-24.html
etc. This way you can just tell your friend that each day she can look
at it using the current day's date as the filename. Even if (unlikely)
search engine's find it and show it in results listings, it won't be
there when people click on it. ;-)
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Ed Mullen
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Is sloppiness in speech caused by ignorance or apathy? I don't know and
I don't care. - William Safire
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| dorayme 2007-01-27, 11:09 pm |
| In article <T_ednRnNd4VzEjPYnZ2dnUVZ_ozinZ2d@comcast.com>,
Ed Mullen <ed@edmullen.net> wrote:
> patrick j wrote:
>
> One thing you could do during development is simply change the name of
> the page file every day. Like:
>
> http://yourdomain.com/2007-01-17.html
> http://yourdomain.com/2007-01-24.html
>
> etc. This way you can just tell your friend that each day she can look
> at it using the current day's date as the filename. Even if (unlikely)
> search engine's find it and show it in results listings, it won't be
> there when people click on it. ;-)
Intersting idea Ed. Or perhaps Patrick can think about which
words are so likely to attract attention and he mentions in a
subsequent post that his client or friend is famous. So may I
suggest that if it is the name that attracts and is something
likely to be searched, you use a different name for the draft
site:
Instead of
<h1 style="font-size: 1000%;">The Queen of England</h1>
why not:
<h1 style="font-size: 1000%;">Roger Rabbit's Wife</h1>
or... um (even less likely to attract attention):
<h1 style="font-size: 1000%;">The NeeuQ of Dnalgne"</h1>
--
dorayme
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| J.O. Aho 2007-01-27, 11:09 pm |
| Ed Mullen wrote:
> patrick j wrote:
>
> One thing you could do during development is simply change the name of
> the page file every day. Like:
>
> http://yourdomain.com/2007-01-17.html
> http://yourdomain.com/2007-01-24.html
>
> etc. This way you can just tell your friend that each day she can look
> at it using the current day's date as the filename. Even if (unlikely)
> search engine's find it and show it in results listings, it won't be
> there when people click on it. ;-)
Why go for a such much work when you can easily protect a subdirectory and
it's subdirectories from unauthorized people and setting a robot rules to not
log the subdirectory (most of the serious ones does respect that).
As long as there aren't any direct links to the page on the net and your
directories has indexing disabled, the robots won't find a directory.
--
//Aho
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| Toby Inkster 2007-01-27, 11:09 pm |
| J.O. Aho wrote:
> Why go for a such much work when you can easily protect a subdirectory and
> it's subdirectories from unauthorized people and setting a robot rules to not
> log the subdirectory (most of the serious ones does respect that).
If the directory is password protected properly (i.e. HTTP authentication,
or a decent server-side script), then there's no need to set up any
robots.txt rules to block robots from indexing, as they simply won't be
able to access the site anyway.
Indeed, listing the site in robots.txt will *decrease* the security, as it
alerts people (well, people who look at robots.txt anyway) that the
directory exists. Otherwise they might never have found it. Once they know
*where* it is, they can start trying to guess userids and passwords.
--
Toby A Inkster BSc (Hons) ARCS
Contact Me ~ http://tobyinkster.co.uk/contact
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| Websites are designed for publicity
For privacy there are a lot of other tools like emails, Skype, ICQ,
filesharing
Those free e-mail services usually offer PW-protected space for photos.
What exactly is the application, if none of these is good?
"patrick j" <patrick@jamesnews.orangehome.co.uk> ???????/???????? ? ????????
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> Hi
>
> I'm going to suggest to a friend of mine that I create a web-site for
> her. She lives in London and I live in Brighton.
>
> I'd like it if I could put the web-site up on a server such that I or
> she can see it but nobody else. This is so she can have a look at it
> during the period it is being created.
>
> Is there an easy way to do this?
>
> If I put the site up on a server for her to view it using her browser
> then how do I prevent it from being included in Google and other search
> engines?
>
> Could I password protect it in some way for example?
>
> TIA
>
>
> --
> Patrick
> Brighton, UK
>
> <http://www.patrickjames.me.uk>
>
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"dorayme" <doraymeRidThis@optusnet.com.au>
Even if (unlikely) search engine's find it
There used to be some robot-repelling tags in <head> - do they work?
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| patrick j 2007-01-27, 11:09 pm |
| On Jan 18, 2007 aa wrote:
> Websites are designed for publicity
> For privacy there are a lot of other tools like emails, Skype, ICQ,
> filesharing
> Those free e-mail services usually offer PW-protected space for photos.
> What exactly is the application, if none of these is good?
Hi
As I mentioned in the original posting my plan is to give my client
access to the site during the creation period then when client is
satisfied we can make it available to anyone.
My client lives in London and I live in Brighton.
--
Patrick
Brighton, UK
<http://www.patrickjames.me.uk>
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| Jonathan N. Little 2007-01-27, 11:09 pm |
| patrick j wrote:
> On Jan 18, 2007 aa wrote:
>
>
> Hi
>
> As I mentioned in the original posting my plan is to give my client
> access to the site during the creation period then when client is
> satisfied we can make it available to anyone.
>
> My client lives in London and I live in Brighton.
What I do, since sometimes the client hasn't settled on a hosting
company yet or domain name, is create a project folder in a temporary
folder on my hosting server. Put their demo in that and email them the
explicit link. Since the link is not public, and only I and my client
have the base url to the project folder it is private between us. If
indexing is turned off (best to be) one could not access the "site"
unless you know the URL.
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Take care,
Jonathan
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LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
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| Toby Inkster 2007-01-27, 11:09 pm |
| patrick j wrote:
> My client lives in London and I live in Brighton.
I'm not entirely sure how that matters. Your client could be in Timbuktu
and you could be circling the atmosphere in an invisible pink[1] zepplin,
and the solution would still be the same.
____
1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_Pink_Unicorn
"Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based
upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically
know that they are invisible because we can't see them."
--
Toby A Inkster BSc (Hons) ARCS
Contact Me ~ http://tobyinkster.co.uk/contact
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| patrick j 2007-01-27, 11:09 pm |
| On Jan 18, 2007 Toby Inkster wrote:
> patrick j wrote:
>
>
> I'm not entirely sure how that matters. Your client could be in Timbuktu
> and you could be circling the atmosphere in an invisible pink[1] zepplin,
> and the solution would still be the same.
Living in Brighton is a bit like circling the atmosphere in an
invisible pink zeppelin :)
I know that it doesn't matter where me and my client are but what I
meant really is that the client doesn't live next door or even in my
house.
My next project might be for a family member in Adelaide, Australia.
--
Patrick
Brighton, UK
<http://www.patrickjames.me.uk>
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| Toby Inkster 2007-01-27, 11:09 pm |
| patrick j wrote:
> Living in Brighton is a bit like circling the atmosphere in an
> invisible pink zeppelin :)
I live a little up and to the right. (Lewes.)
--
Toby A Inkster BSc (Hons) ARCS
Contact Me ~ http://tobyinkster.co.uk/contact
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| dorayme 2007-01-27, 11:09 pm |
| In article <hug484-ipn.ln1@ophelia.g5n.co.uk>,
Toby Inkster <usenet200701@tobyinkster.co.uk> wrote:
> patrick j wrote:
>
>
> I'm not entirely sure how that matters. Your client could be in Timbuktu
> and you could be circling the atmosphere in an invisible pink[1] zepplin,
> and the solution would still be the same.
I don't think so. If the client (it IS the Queen of England - I
have men reporting to me on this) lived next door, Patrick could
call her over for a quick deko at his screen, and a cup of tea at
the same time.
--
dorayme
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| Joe (GKF) 2007-01-27, 11:09 pm |
| In article <doraymeRidThis-F2938D.06380018012007@news-
vip.optusnet.com.au>, doraymeRidThis@optusnet.com.au says...
>
> You have had general advice about password protecting pages. What
> I do is simply put stuff up in a folder on domains under my
> control, ...
....
> It takes a while to get noticed in search engines.
>
AOL - and I also add
<META NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="NOINDEX">
<META NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="NOFOLLOW">
in the <head> section of the pages. It seems to work.
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| patrick j 2007-01-27, 11:09 pm |
| On Jan 18, 2007 Toby Inkster wrote:
> patrick j wrote:
>
>
> I live a little up and to the right. (Lewes.)
I'll wave when I pass by in the zeppelin :)
--
Patrick
Brighton, UK
<http://www.patrickjames.me.uk>
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| patrick j 2007-01-27, 11:09 pm |
| On Jan 18, 2007 dorayme wrote:
> In article <hug484-ipn.ln1@ophelia.g5n.co.uk>,
> Toby Inkster <usenet200701@tobyinkster.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> I don't think so. If the client (it IS the Queen of England - I
> have men reporting to me on this) lived next door, Patrick could
> call her over for a quick deko at his screen, and a cup of tea at
> the same time.
It's true that client doesn't live next door. But it's not HMQ, honest!
Something I am wondering about a bit is if I am circling the atmosphere
in a invisible pink zeppelin how do we know it is pink, after all it is
invisible.
--
Patrick
Brighton, UK
<http://www.patrickjames.me.uk>
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| dorayme 2007-01-27, 11:09 pm |
| In article
<0001HW.C1D5C06000BFBA8DB019F94F@News.Individual.Net>,
patrick j <patrick@jamesnews.orangehome.co.uk> wrote:
> Something I am wondering about a bit is if I am circling the atmosphere
> in a invisible pink zeppelin how do we know it is pink, after all it is
> invisible.
We must make a distinction between two types of invisibility. In
the one, the object is invisible only because it cannot be seen
in normal circumstances (black fighter bombers able to deflect
the detecting beams). In the other, the object is intrincically
invisible (a god, a ghost, the prime number between 6 and 8,
etc...).
--
dorayme
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| patrick j 2007-01-27, 11:09 pm |
| On Jan 19, 2007 dorayme wrote:
> In article
> <0001HW.C1D5C06000BFBA8DB019F94F@News.Individual.Net>,
> patrick j <patrick@jamesnews.orangehome.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
> We must make a distinction between two types of invisibility. In
> the one, the object is invisible only because it cannot be seen
> in normal circumstances (black fighter bombers able to deflect
> the detecting beams). In the other, the object is intrincically
> invisible (a god, a ghost, the prime number between 6 and 8,
> etc...).
I guess it could be a sort of "stealth zeppelin".
I think zeppelins are unlikely to be very "stealthy".
Then again they're not frequently pink either.
--
Patrick
Brighton, UK
<http://www.patrickjames.me.uk>
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| Toby Inkster 2007-01-27, 11:09 pm |
| patrick j wrote:
> how do we know it is pink, after all it is invisible.
I refer you back to my previous post...
Toby Inkster wrote:
| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_Pink_Unicorn
| "Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based
| upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we
| logically know that they are invisible because we can't see them."
Or, if you'd prefer, the exterior of the zepplin appears invisible,
whereas the interior appears pink.
--
Toby A Inkster BSc (Hons) ARCS
Contact Me ~ http://tobyinkster.co.uk/contact
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| patrick j 2007-01-27, 11:09 pm |
| On Jan 19, 2007 Toby Inkster wrote:
> patrick j wrote:
>
>
> I refer you back to my previous post...
>
> Toby Inkster wrote:
>
>
> Or, if you'd prefer, the exterior of the zepplin appears invisible,
> whereas the interior appears pink.
We believe the Zeppelin is pink as an act of faith but logically it is
invisible because we can't see it.
--
Patrick
Brighton, UK
<http://www.patrickjames.me.uk>
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| Joe (GKF) 2007-01-27, 11:09 pm |
| In article <hug484-ipn.ln1@ophelia.g5n.co.uk>, usenet200701
@tobyinkster.co.uk says...
> patrick j wrote:
>
>
> I'm not entirely sure how that matters. Your client could be in Timbuktu
> and you could be circling the atmosphere in an invisible pink[1] zepplin,
> and the solution would still be the same.
>
I bought some invisible pink paint a while back, but now I can't find
it.
> ____
> 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_Pink_Unicorn
> "Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based
> upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically
> know that they are invisible because we can't see them."
>
>
--
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| dorayme 2007-01-27, 11:09 pm |
| In article <MPG.201ad43c755f946598975d@news.aardvark.net.au>,
Joe (GKF) <joedinmore@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> I bought some invisible pink paint a while back, but now I can't find
> it.
You mean you painted the bottle with it?
--
dorayme
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| "patrick j" <patrick@jamesnews.orangehome.co.uk>
> As I mentioned in the original posting my plan is to give my client
> access to the site during the creation period then when client is
> satisfied we can make it available to anyone.
Then why is that secrecy? If you do not advertise it and do not register it
with SE, it will take time before it goes to public domain.
Or the client is afraid of peeping competition? Is domain name already
taken? Is it guessable?
How long, do you expect, this design process will take?
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