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AWW FAQ September 21, 2006

Heidi

2006-09-24, 7:00 pm

alt.www.webmaster FAQ
Last revised: June 3, 2006
The current version is located at:
http://www.aww-faq.org

Welcome to alt.www.webmaster (AWW). Thank you for
taking the time to read this information. This FAQ
is not meant to be a set of rules. It is simply
a guide to help new users become acquainted with
how the group operates, some useful information,
and some of our favorite links. All the suggestions
in the section titled "Posting Messages in AWW" are
based on the assumption that people are willing to
cooperate and observe some conventions in order to
facilitate the smooth operation of the group. We
hope you will find the newsgroup and this FAQ to be
useful resources and we welcome your participation.

Ads are not welcome in AWW, whether on-topic or not.
In fact, they are so unwelcome that they are usually
reported to the poster's ISP and web host, etc. by
some newsgroup members who really don't like ads.
Read the "Advertising in AWW" section for a definition
of what we consider unsolicited commercial advertising
and likely to get you reported, and what types of web
site promotion are considered appropriate. If all you
want to do is post ads, go to alt.www.webmaster.ads
(AWWA) or some other newsgroup that has a more
ad-tolerant attitude. Please read the FAQ for AWWA at
http://awwa.aww-faq.org/ before you post an ad there.

** Table of Contents **

Purpose of the Newsgroup
Recommended Links
Frequently Asked Questions
Tips on Dealing With Clients
Overview of AWW
Posting Messages in AWW
Advertising in AWW
Trolls
Warez and Cracks
AWW Notes for Novices
http://www.aww-faq.org/nonindex.htm

** Purpose of the Newsgroup **

The members of AWW like to discuss Web site setup
and configuration, web hosts and hosting packages,
web hosting tools and operating strategies, and
promotional campaigns and methods.

** Recommended Links **

Our recommended links are located at:
http://www.aww-faq.org/aww-links.html.

** Frequently Asked Questions **

Q. Can I protect my source code, meta-tags, and other
easily viewable code from people being able to see it?
A. In a word, no. There are right click scripts and
JavaScript encoding that some use, but they don't
really work. They'll only stop the most basic of users,
anyone who shuts off JavaScript will still get at your
code. If you still want to try, you can find some
different methods here:
http://javascript.internet.com/page-details/
and http://allmyfaqs.net/faq.pl?Hide_source

Q. Can I automatically get e-mail addresses from my
visitors?
A. That would be unethical. But even if it wasn't,
it's not really possible.
The only items you really have access to are the
environment variables passed by the browser and the
IP address of the user. Environment variables may
contain the e-mail address in some browsers if the
user entered their true e-mail address, but that's
rare. The vast majority of your visitors will not
have their e-mail address available if you query the
environment variables. IP addresses cannot be mapped
to an e-mail and neither can hostnames in 99% of
the cases.

Q. What is favicon and how can I use it?
A. The following two pages answer this very well:
http://www.webdevelopersjournal.com...es/favicon.html
http://www.favicon.com/

Q. How do I password protect my pages?
A. The easiest form of password protection is
JavaScript-based: write a script wherein the
user has to enter a password to complete it
and be redirected to the desired location.
This is also the easiest-to-circumvent: as with
all client-side work, the user can easily discover
the password simply by using the "view source"
option on their browser. A slightly more difficult,
but much more secure, method of JavaScript-protection
is to prompt the user for a password that is
automatically added to the URL of your original page,
that allows them to access the password-protected page.
Unfortunately, neither method will work if JavaScript
is disabled.
If you use [Apache], you can use .htaccess
and .htpassword, the most effective form of password
protection.

Q. How can I stop someone from hot-linking to my images?
A .You can use .htaccess if you are using mod_rewrite.
Add the following to .htaccess:

RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^$
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://domain.com/.*$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://www.domain.com/.*$ [NC]
RewriteRule .*\.gif$ - [F]

RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^$
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://domain.com/.*$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://www.domain.com/.*$ [NC]
RewriteRule .*\.jpg$ - [F]

Please note that this sort of protection is very weak.
Hotlinking will still work if the linking site is on
an SSL-encrypted page, because all clients clear the
referer when an HTTP page is called from an HTTPS one.
Also, clients can use simple personal proxies that
transparently rewrite referers to match your rules, in
order to bypass all these filters. An example is Hotlinker
(www.hotlinker.net). These tricks are already widely used
for porn sites. The best way to go is to use cookies (like
PHP sessions) or cryptography.

Q. How do I change the color of the user's scrollbar?
A. The declaration used in CSS for colored scroll bars is:
<style type="text/css">
body {
scrollbar-arrow-color: cyan;
scrollbar-base-color: blue;
scrollbar-dark-shadow-color: blue;
scrollbar-3dlight-color:white;
scrollbar-face-color: #b0c4de;
scrollbar-highlight-color: blue;
scrollbar-shadow-color: blue;
scrollbar-darkshadow-color: purple;
}
</style>

Change color as desired. Only works in IE5.5+.

Professionals consider it unethical to change any
settings the user has made. That includes changing
the scrollbar's color, stopping right-click,
forcing them to open windows they don't want,
writing to their disk, forcing your site into
Favorites, and editing anything else the user has set.
You don't need to do these things, and they generally
detract from the impact and credibility of your site.

Q. How do I make a file available for someone
to download?
A. <a href="FileToDownload.EXE">Download</a>
If the user has the application associated with
the file type installed, and the browser is aware
of it, then the document will open in the browser.
If the browser doesn't recognize the file type,
then the user will be prompted to download the
document. If you always want the document to be
downloaded, then make it a zip file.

Q. How can I stop someone from downloading my images?
A. The short answer is, you can't. There are a number
of protection schemes that purport to stop this but
the truth is that they can all be circumvented. The
very fact that your images display on your visitor's
machine means they have already been downloaded.

Q. Which is better, Firefox, Opera, Internet Explorer,
or (insert your favorite browser) ?
A. There is no browser that is better than another,
just different features and bugs. You'll see people
claim IE is better because it's not as picky about
having proper HTML and you'll see people claiming
other browsers are better because they force you to
write proper code. Remember, there are many browsers
out there -- see http://www.anybrowser.org/campaign/ .
You must make sure your website looks acceptable in
most major browsers, by writing your markup according
to standards -- see http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/ for details.

Q. How can I test my page for WebTV/MSN TV?
A. MSN TV has a special viewer that you can download
and see exactly what your page looks like in WebTV.
You can get it here:
http://developer.msntv.com/Tools/WebTVVwr.asp

Q. I'm looking for an on-line analyzing service that
will check each individual visitor's path through a
site in detail; e.g. entry page (with time stamp),
navigation, duration at each page, exit page, etc.
A. There is no reliable way to track a visitor's path
through a web site with absolute certainty or accuracy.
One can extract some useful information about trends
of site usage by examining logs, and raw figures can
be useful for PR. However, it is always important to
remember that the information is inevitably neither
complete nor accurate. Log analyzers can only produce
an approximation or "best guess" due to many factors.

Q. Can I make money through advertising and affiliate
programs?
A. There are a lot of factors that go into making money
through advertising. One of the most important
considerations is to have advertising that complements
the content of your site.

Q. How do I copyright my site?
A. Your site is protected by copyright law when it is created.
For more information on US copyright law, see:
http://www.loc.gov/copyright/faq.html.
For more information on UK copyright law, see:
http://www.patent.gov.uk/copy/index.htm.
For more information on Australian copyright law, see:
Copyright in Australia. A Short Guide.
http://tinyurl.com/8oq46
For more information on Canadian copyright law, see:
http://www.cb-cda.gc.ca/info/act-e.html

Copyright laws in other countries may differ.

Q. What is the best software for automated submission
to search engines?
A. There are only about 10 search engines that are worth
the effort to get listed in. Manual submission is best.

Q. How can I find out what my domain name is worth?
A. There are several appraisal services that attempt
to put a value on domain names. The values they assign
mean nothing. Ultimately a domain is only worth what
someone is willing to pay for it.

Q. I want to register a domain name that has expired.
Why hasn't the registrar released it?
A. Because they are holding expired domains and
releasing them when they feel like it. Some names
never get released. Yes it's wrong, but they are going
to keep doing it until someone stops them.

Q. I have multiple physical disabilities and I would
like to do web design and testing. How do I get started?
A. A physically disabled designer may need some special
tools to get the job done, but web design is web design.
Go to the Recommended Links Page for some useful links
for those with disabilities.

Q. How can I prevent my images from being indexed by
Google?
A. Add this to your robots.txt file:
User-agent: Googlebot-Image
Disallow: /

Q. How can I use Google to see which web sites are
linked to mine?
A. Put this in Google's search box:
link:www.yourdomain.com

Q. How can I use jpeg compression for best results?
A. Jpeg has fully customizable compression from 1%
to 99%. A balance can often be struck between
acceptable quality and acceptable file size by using
a compression of perhaps 30% or even 50% in some cases.
By default, most graphics packages will tend to use a
compression factor of about 15%, which is great for
large photographs, but results in unnecessarily large
file sizes for more simple images such as buttons and
logos.
With the popular Paint Shop Pro, the compression factor
used for saving Jpeg images is accessible by the
'options' button when doing a "Save As" and selecting
Jpeg image format.

Q. Where can I find a PDF editor?
A. Get Adobe Acrobat from http://www.adobe.com
or Fine Print's PDF factory from
http://www.fineprint.com or
http://www.webxd.com/zipguy/frpdfdl.htm

Q. Where can I find an SWF editor?
A. http://www.19.5degs.com/swfeditor.php

Q. How can I preload images for my OnMouseOver script?
A. Preloading images:
http://wsabstract.com/javatutors/image3.shtml
Preload Image Script:
http://wsabstract.com/javatutors/rfunction6.shtml

Q. How can I set up a web site so that my clients and coworkers can
create and publish content?

A. You need Content Management System (CMS) software. Here are some
examples:

http://www.threering.net
http://www.blogger.com
http://www.moveabletype.org
http://www.postnuke.com
http://noahgrey.com/greysoft/
http://twiki.org/
http://www.macromedia.com/software/contribute/

Q. Where can I find out the most common queries made
to search engines?

A. http://inventory.overture.com/d/sea...ory/suggestion/
is a useful tool. More info can be gained from
https://adwords.google.com/select/ and there's always the perennial
favorite: http://wordtracker.com.

** Tips on Dealing with Clients **

Q. How do I get clients?
A. Word of mouth is really the best way. First off,
you will want a portfolio. Do some pro-bono sites
for charities around your area. Then start in on small
businesses. As your portfolio slowly grows, so will
your skills. As your skills improve, so will your
client base. There is no quick way to do this, just
have patience, and a day job.

Q. How much should I charge?
A. The average as of 2006 for beginning webmasters with
a decent portfolio is about $50 an hour. Please take
into account the various economic factors of the region
where you live.

** Overview of AWW **

alt.www.webmaster is for discussion by practicing,
recovering, and beginning webmasters. It is a forum
for mutual support and griping over idiot clients,
poor standards compliance by browsers, and supportive
Q&A with occasional forays off-topic into such
subjects as how best to destroy our enemies (spammers)
and whether or not Chihuahuas are a respectable logo idea.

** Posting Messages in AWW **

If you are new to USENET, take some time to read the
USENET Help FAQs, at:
http://www.ibiblio.org/usenet-i/usenet-help.html
and How to Ask questions the Smart Way, at:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
After you have read some posts in
AWW and either did not find the answer, or you want
to jump into a discussion, feel free to do so. Just
be aware of a few things:

¤ Participants in this newsgroup are encouraged to
treat everyone with respect, avoid personal
attacks and the use of foul language. There
are young people that frequent this newsgroup
and we want them to feel welcome here. This is
not alt.www.webmaster.xxx, so if your question
(or your behavior for that matter) is better
suited to an all adult audience, we'd appreciate
it if you would take it there.

¤ If you are starting a new thread, please make
the subject reflect the message. "HELP!!!!!"
and "Question to the Group" are not valid subjects.
Make it descriptive. Some of us are specialists
and will be faster in answering your questions
if you do a proper subject line. You should not
ask for a reply by email. See: Why you shouldn't
ask for E-mail responses on Usenet for more
information.

¤ Do not post messages containing html, scripts,
binaries, etc. This is not the web, and we post
in plain text only. Please be courteous and do
the same.

¤ When replying to a message don't top post.
Include the author, message identifier, and
relevant portions of the message you are
replying to, and edit out the rest including
"sig" lines. Please try and keep subject lines
relatively up to date, so people can kill threads.
Avoid one line "me, too" posts.

¤ We will often do a site review if requested.
Just remember, most of us are professionals,
and we will critique your site as if it were
a professionally made high-hit web site.
Though the reviews may seem cruel, they are
merely exacting. Sometimes we enjoy shredding
a web site just for the sport of it though,
especially if we think that someone is using
a request for a critique as an attempt to get
around our ban on unsolicited advertising, or
we get spammed by someone with a web site that
looks like it was designed by a 10-year old.

** Advertising in AWW **

¤ You are welcome to post your url and a
description of your services in response
to a relevant question. The best way to
advertise in USENET is by participating
in the conversations with a sig file
pointing to your site. No one complains
about that (as long as it's a short sig
- 4 lines or less - and you're honestly
participating.) We are interested in your
opinions and questions, not your 12 line sig.

¤ Unsolicited commercial messages of any kind
are prohibited, and will probably be reported
to the sender's ISP and web host etc. by one
or more of AWW's regular participants.
"Commercial" is defined in The American Heritage®
Dictionary as "Having profit as a chief aim" and
that's an excellent way to define the type of
messages we don't want. You cannot promote your
web site, offer to "sell" anything, exchange links,
form partnerships, etc.

¤ Genuine offers of paid employment are acceptable,
as long as the offer is for a fixed hourly rate,
price per page, or a contract rate. Posting an offer
to trade web design for future profits is not allowed,
unless you have prepared a written business plan that
includes the percentage of shares/profits we will
receive for our speculative investment of time, and
any other pertinent details.

¤ A newsgroup has been specifically created for
those offering products and services of interest
to webmasters. You are welcome to post your ad in
alt.www.webmaster.ads (AWWA).
See http://awwa.aww-faq.org/ for the AWWA FAQ.
If your ISP doesn't carry it, please ask them to do
so. Do not cross post messages to AWW and AWWA.

** Trolls **

From time to time AWW is invaded by trolls seeking to
harass and disrupt the group and who think they are
entitled to engage in whatever asinine behavior they
wish.

Sometimes AWW is included in cross posting in flame
wars. If you see a message that is completely out of
context, check to see if it's been crossposted to
several groups.

Q. Can't the trolls be stopped?
A. In all cases trolls should be ignored. If a troll
is really determined to post messages in AWW, there's
always a way to do so, either through shell accounts,
friendly news servers, remailers, etc. The best thing
to do is ignore them, because that denies them the
thing they want the most -- recognition. Arguing with
them is the worst thing to do, because their only
real interest is in provoking a response.

Q. These trolls really bother me. Can't I do anything?
A .Yes. Use your kill file. In Microsoft Outlook
simply highlight a message from the offensive user,
click on the Message menu and then click on Block Sender.
If you decide to unblock someone later go to Tools,
Message Rules, Blocked Senders List.

** Warez and Cracks **

Requests for cracked or illegally copied software,
or for information on how to find such software,
will be replied to with a single line -- "We don't
support that kind of activity here."

Suggestions for changes to this FAQ can be posted at:
news:alt.www.webmaster

I Hate Stock Spams

2006-09-24, 7:00 pm

How about adding something like (after you rewrite it, English is my second
language):

Q. I plan to use php, PERL or javascript or a free/shareware written in one
of those languages. Where can I see the latest vulnerabilities and make
sure I am not writing with a broken tool?
A. You should look at:
http://secunia.com/vendor/ or
http://secunia.com/product/ or
http://securityfocus.com/bid
to see the latest unpatched vulnerabilites and determine if the version of
the tool you are using is safe.

Q. I want to put a web form on my page which sends me mail. How do I know
if it is safe?
A. Never use anything from a "script repository" or "archive" unless the
author EXPLICITLY says that it is safe from email injection. See
http://www.securephpwiki.com/index.php/Email_Injection
before even THINKING of putting an email form on your web page.

Red E. Kilowatt

2006-09-24, 7:00 pm

I Hate Stock Spams <anon@comments.header> wrote in message:
A4F2YYRB38981.6509143518@twistycreek.com,

> How about adding something like (after you rewrite it, English is my
> second language):
>
> Q. I plan to use php, PERL or javascript or a free/shareware written
> in one of those languages. Where can I see the latest vulnerabilities
> and make sure I am not writing with a broken tool?
> A. You should look at:
> http://secunia.com/vendor/ or
> http://secunia.com/product/ or
> http://securityfocus.com/bid
> to see the latest unpatched vulnerabilites and determine if the
> version of the tool you are using is safe.
>
> Q. I want to put a web form on my page which sends me mail. How do I
> know if it is safe?
> A. Never use anything from a "script repository" or "archive" unless
> the author EXPLICITLY says that it is safe from email injection. See
> http://www.securephpwiki.com/index.php/Email_Injection
> before even THINKING of putting an email form on your web page.

While the advice seems sound, I won't take suggestions for changes
seriously when they are posted through a remailer. Is that because
secunia is your web site?

Certainly this is a good starting point for a debate on the subject.
Let's see how that goes.
--
Red

Nullified

2006-09-24, 7:00 pm

On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 20:21:49 GMT, "Red E. Kilowatt"
<kilowattREMOVE@aww-faq.org> wrote:

>I Hate Stock Spams <anon@comments.header> wrote in message:
>A4F2YYRB38981.6509143518@twistycreek.com,
>
>
>While the advice seems sound, I won't take suggestions for changes
>seriously when they are posted through a remailer.

Why? If the suggestion is credible, it doesnt matter who it was posted
by. I seem to remember you being a big advocate of posters rights to
anonymity.

Jerry Stuckle

2006-09-24, 7:00 pm

Nullified wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 20:21:49 GMT, "Red E. Kilowatt"
> <kilowattREMOVE@aww-faq.org> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Why? If the suggestion is credible, it doesnt matter who it was posted
> by. I seem to remember you being a big advocate of posters rights to
> anonymity.

That isn't the point. The FAQ's are not here to help promote someone's
website.

--
==================
Remove the "x" from my email address
Jerry Stuckle
JDS Computer Training Corp.
jstucklex@attglobal.net
==================

I Hate Stock Spams

2006-09-24, 7:00 pm

> Is that because secunia is your web site?
I have sent discoveries to them a couple of times but never have I been
financially recompensated for my effort. I do not work for them, never have
and never plan to. BTW, they are the second biggest (free) searchable
vulnerability database. Securityfocus is the biggest.

> That isn't the point. The FAQ's are not here to help promote someone's
> website.
No, you miss the point. Secunia and Securityfocus are the two huge leading
security sites with searchable vulnerability databases. They do not need
promotion and I don't think that they offer anything for sale which anyone
here would be able to use. If you don't feel comfortable with them, google
for other sites (sans.org and eeye.com come to mind) and list as many as
you are comfortable with. That is like saying talk about search engines but
do not "promote" google or msn in the FAQ.

While I understand that you are not all technical people, I suggest you
look at the vulnerability reports on your installed components and assure
yourselves that what you use in your website is free from security
problems. In addition, someone should check your websites frequently to
make sure that a new vulnerability has not surfaced in any of the
scripts/programs you have used which requires a tool update. A "webmaster"
shares some of the duties of a system administrator in that way in my view.

Matt Probert

2006-09-24, 7:00 pm

On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 21:34:15 -0400, Jerry Stuckle
<jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:

>
>That isn't the point. The FAQ's are not here to help promote someone's
>website.
>

"No answers shall be provided, regardless of how helpful they may be,
if such answer in being given in any way, shape or form helps to
promote any website not on the approved list of web sites which may be
promoted"

And this is the American concept of the free market?

Matt

--
Veritas Vincti
http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com

Jerry Stuckle

2006-09-24, 7:00 pm

Matt Probert wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 21:34:15 -0400, Jerry Stuckle
> <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> "No answers shall be provided, regardless of how helpful they may be,
> if such answer in being given in any way, shape or form helps to
> promote any website not on the approved list of web sites which may be
> promoted"
>
> And this is the American concept of the free market?
>
> Matt
>
>

Don't be a troll, Matt.

--
==================
Remove the "x" from my email address
Jerry Stuckle
JDS Computer Training Corp.
jstucklex@attglobal.net
==================

Red E. Kilowatt

2006-09-24, 7:00 pm

Matt Probert <www@probertencyclopaedia.com> wrote in message:
451402d8.7731500@news.madasafish.com,

> On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 21:34:15 -0400, Jerry Stuckle
> <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
> "No answers shall be provided, regardless of how helpful they may be,
> if such answer in being given in any way, shape or form helps to
> promote any website not on the approved list of web sites which may be
> promoted"

Sounds reasonable. Perhaps we should add this to the Faq? :-)

--
Red

Red E. Kilowatt

2006-09-24, 7:00 pm

I Hate Stock Spams <anon@comments.header> wrote in message:
KBP5NU3W38982.0346875@twistycreek.com,

> I have sent discoveries to them a couple of times but never have I
> been financially recompensated for my effort. I do not work for them,
> never have and never plan to. BTW, they are the second biggest (free)
> searchable vulnerability database. Securityfocus is the biggest.

Fine. I was just asking.

>
> No, you miss the point. Secunia and Securityfocus are the two huge
> leading security sites with searchable vulnerability databases. They
> do not need promotion and I don't think that they offer anything for
> sale which anyone here would be able to use. If you don't feel
> comfortable with them, google for other sites (sans.org and eeye.com
> come to mind) and list as many as you are comfortable with. That is
> like saying talk about search engines but do not "promote" google or
> msn in the FAQ.
>
> While I understand that you are not all technical people, I suggest
> you look at the vulnerability reports on your installed components
> and assure yourselves that what you use in your website is free from
> security problems. In addition, someone should check your websites
> frequently to make sure that a new vulnerability has not surfaced in
> any of the scripts/programs you have used which requires a tool
> update. A "webmaster" shares some of the duties of a system
> administrator in that way in my view.

Sounds reasonable to me.

Now that we've gotten past the obvious question, we can move on to
comments on the actual substance of your suggestions; if there are any.
If anyone has any objections, corrections or comments they should speak
up now. If there are no objections within the next couple of days, I'll
make the changes.

Thank you for bringing this up. It is an important issue that should be
addressed in the FAQ.

--
Red

Nullified

2006-09-24, 7:00 pm

On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 21:34:15 -0400, Jerry Stuckle
<jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:

>Nullified wrote:
>
>That isn't the point. The FAQ's are not here to help promote someone's
>website.

You're right, its not. What it *is* here for is to give aid to
readers. So... reader wants an answer to a question, but the FAQ
doesnt provide it because while the answer has actually been provided,
it was (possibly) suggested by the owner of the domain where the
answer rests. And thats useful?

Mark Goodge

2006-09-24, 7:00 pm

On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 17:45:52 GMT, Nullified put finger to keyboard and
typed:

>On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 21:34:15 -0400, Jerry Stuckle
><jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
>
>You're right, its not. What it *is* here for is to give aid to
>readers. So... reader wants an answer to a question, but the FAQ
>doesnt provide it because while the answer has actually been provided,
>it was (possibly) suggested by the owner of the domain where the
>answer rests. And thats useful?

What the FAQ is for is to provide useful answers to questions which
are frequently asked. If a frequently asked question is best answered
by pointing to a commercial website, then by all means include that
answer in the FAQ.

In this case, though, I don't think that the question you want
answered in the FAQ is really all that frequently asked. You might
wish it were more frequently asked (just as we'd all love to get more
questions along the lines of "How can I ditch non-compliant tags and
create standards-conforming websites?" or "I want to give you guys
money, which Paypal account should I send it to?"), but that's not
what the FAQ is for.

A newsgroup FAQ should, as far as possible, conform to something
similar to Wikipedia's "Neutral point of View", or NPOV. That is, if a
question is getting asked a lot of times, and there is a generally
accepted best answer (or most common answers), then the question and
answer(s) belongs in the FAQ. Even if it's a dumb question, it
belonmgs in the FAQ, and even if the best answer is one which promotes
a commercial service then it belongs in the FAQ. But if it isn't a
common question then it doesn't belong in the FAQ, and if an answer
doesn't have anything approaching consensus then it doesn't belong in
the FAQ (although an answer along the lines of "there is no consensus;
here are links to the more common alternative points of view" might).
FAQs don't promote any particular viewpoint, they simply list the most
common questions and provide the most commonly given answers.

Mark
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Nullified

2006-09-24, 7:00 pm

On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 20:18:38 +0100, Mark Goodge
<usenet@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk> wrote:

>On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 17:45:52 GMT, Nullified put finger to keyboard and
>typed:
>
>
>What the FAQ is for is to provide useful answers to questions which
>are frequently asked. If a frequently asked question is best answered
>by pointing to a commercial website, then by all means include that
>answer in the FAQ.
>
>In this case, though, I don't think that the question you want
>answered in the FAQ is really all that frequently asked. You might
>wish it were more frequently asked (just as we'd all love to get more
>questions along the lines of "How can I ditch non-compliant tags and
>create standards-conforming websites?" or "I want to give you guys
>money, which Paypal account should I send it to?"), but that's not
>what the FAQ is for.
>
>A newsgroup FAQ should, as far as possible, conform to something
>similar to Wikipedia's "Neutral point of View", or NPOV. That is, if a
>question is getting asked a lot of times, and there is a generally
>accepted best answer (or most common answers), then the question and
>answer(s) belongs in the FAQ. Even if it's a dumb question, it
>belonmgs in the FAQ, and even if the best answer is one which promotes
>a commercial service then it belongs in the FAQ. But if it isn't a
>common question then it doesn't belong in the FAQ, and if an answer
>doesn't have anything approaching consensus then it doesn't belong in
>the FAQ (although an answer along the lines of "there is no consensus;
>here are links to the more common alternative points of view" might).
>FAQs don't promote any particular viewpoint, they simply list the most
>common questions and provide the most commonly given answers.
>
>Mark

Fair comment.

Charles Sweeney

2006-09-24, 7:00 pm

Mark Goodge wrote

> What the FAQ is for is to provide useful answers to questions which
> are frequently asked.

Do you reckon many people read them?

--
Charles Sweeney
http://CharlesSweeney.com

William Tasso

2006-09-24, 7:00 pm

Fleeing from the madness of the mail2news@dizum.com jungle
I Hate Stock Spams <anon@comments.header> stumbled into
news:alt.www.webmaster
and said:

> ...
> Q. I want to put a web form on my page which sends me mail. How do I know
> if it is safe?
> A. Never use anything from a "script repository" or "archive" unless the
> author EXPLICITLY says that it is safe from email injection. See
> http://www.securephpwiki.com/index.php/Email_Injection
> before even THINKING of putting an email form on your web page.

Not sure I fully understand how a form can be 'vulnerable' in itself.

Including the target address in a hidden field is just daft and I hope
we're not talking about that.

After that the form is just a form. The vulnerabilities (if any) lie in
the server side form processor.

--
William Tasso

http://williamtasso.com/words/what-is-usenet.asp

William Tasso

2006-09-24, 7:00 pm

Fleeing from the madness of the No thank you jungle
Charles Sweeney <me@charlessweeney.com> stumbled into
news:alt.www.webmaster
and said:

> Mark Goodge wrote
>
>
> Do you reckon many people read them?

in general or on usenet?

more for the former, I'd guess
--
William Tasso

http://williamtasso.com/words/what-is-usenet.asp

Charles Sweeney

2006-09-24, 7:00 pm

William Tasso wrote

> Fleeing from the madness of the No thank you jungle
> Charles Sweeney <me@charlessweeney.com> stumbled into
> news:alt.www.webmaster
> and said:
>
>
> in general or on usenet?
>
> more for the former, I'd guess

Either way...I guess there's not many.

--
Charles Sweeney
http://CharlesSweeney.com

Red E. Kilowatt

2006-09-24, 7:00 pm

Mark Goodge <usenet@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk> wrote in message:
36d8h29qbe8aq98euhhtrnl0s22nkgsmut@news.markshouse.net,

> On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 17:45:52 GMT, Nullified put finger to keyboard and
> typed:
>
>
> What the FAQ is for is to provide useful answers to questions which
> are frequently asked. If a frequently asked question is best answered
> by pointing to a commercial website, then by all means include that
> answer in the FAQ.
>
> In this case, though, I don't think that the question you want
> answered in the FAQ is really all that frequently asked. You might
> wish it were more frequently asked (just as we'd all love to get more
> questions along the lines of "How can I ditch non-compliant tags and
> create standards-conforming websites?" or "I want to give you guys
> money, which Paypal account should I send it to?"), but that's not
> what the FAQ is for.
>
> A newsgroup FAQ should, as far as possible, conform to something
> similar to Wikipedia's "Neutral point of View", or NPOV. That is, if a
> question is getting asked a lot of times, and there is a generally
> accepted best answer (or most common answers), then the question and
> answer(s) belongs in the FAQ. Even if it's a dumb question, it
> belonmgs in the FAQ, and even if the best answer is one which promotes
> a commercial service then it belongs in the FAQ. But if it isn't a
> common question then it doesn't belong in the FAQ, and if an answer
> doesn't have anything approaching consensus then it doesn't belong in
> the FAQ (although an answer along the lines of "there is no consensus;
> here are links to the more common alternative points of view" might).
> FAQs don't promote any particular viewpoint, they simply list the most
> common questions and provide the most commonly given answers.
>
> Mark

OK, perhaps someone would like to write an article for the "Notes for
Novices" section instead?
http://aww-faq.org/nonindex.htm

--
Red

MGW

2006-09-24, 7:00 pm

On 22 Sep 2006 19:37:43 GMT, Charles Sweeney <me@charlessweeney.com>
scrawled:

> Mark Goodge wrote
>
>
> Do you reckon many people read them?

The more they need them, the less likely they are to read them.

--
MGW
Statistics means never having to say you're certain.

(Note: my Hotmail address is seldom checked)

Mark Goodge

2006-09-24, 7:00 pm

On 22 Sep 2006 19:37:43 GMT, Charles Sweeney put finger to keyboard
and typed:

>Mark Goodge wrote
>
>
>Do you reckon many people read them?

Not as many as used to, no. Which is a pity.

Mark
--
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