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expired domain

John

2006-09-24, 6:58 pm

Does anyone know if I can purchase an expired domain on the day that
it expires? If so, does anyone know like what time zone the main
people that keep the list are in?

Todd H.

2006-09-24, 6:58 pm

John <John_nospam@hhhhhhhhhh.com> writes:

> Does anyone know if I can purchase an expired domain on the day that
> it expires?

Generally, no.

Each registrar has its own timeline for allowing the owner the
opportunity to get it renewed. I haven't seen one that turns around
and sells the domain on the day it expires.

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Todd H.
http://www.toddh.net/

DoobieDo

2006-09-24, 6:58 pm

Auggie

2006-09-24, 6:58 pm

"John" <John_nospam@hhhhhhhhhh.com> wrote in message
news:occsg2hqhd375i4692revj1a8jk7qa5al7@4ax.com...
> Does anyone know if I can purchase an expired domain on the day that
> it expires? If so, does anyone know like what time zone the main
> people that keep the list are in?

No.

If a domain name says it expires "October 1, 2006" it doesn't immediatly
become available for anybody to register on October 1st... it just stops
working.

When the domain name hits its expiration date it will then go into a state
of "registrar hold" for the next 40 days... during which time the owner can
still renew the domain name.

Once the registrar hold expires the domain name will go into the next step:
"redemption period". This usually lasts for 30 days, but some domain names
can sit in redemption period for a longer time. During this time the owner
can "restore" the domain name (similar, but not the same as renewing the
domain name: imagine renewing the domain name, but with a hefty surcharge on
top of the regular fee)

Once the redemption period is over the domain name goes into "pending
delete" where it usually stays for 5 days. At this point the original owner
can't renew or restore the domain name... they have to wait until it has
officially expired before they can try to get it back.

And then finally... once the "pending delete" period is over the domain name
is finally available for anybody to register.

DoobieDo

2006-09-24, 6:58 pm

"Auggie" <Imperial.Palace@Rome.It> wrote in message
news:JTqPg.19504$bf5.9020@edtnps90...
>
> "John" <John_nospam@hhhhhhhhhh.com> wrote in message
> news:occsg2hqhd375i4692revj1a8jk7qa5al7@4ax.com...
>
> No.
>
> If a domain name says it expires "October 1, 2006" it doesn't immediatly
> become available for anybody to register on October 1st... it just stops
> working.
>
> When the domain name hits its expiration date it will then go into a state
> of "registrar hold" for the next 40 days... during which time the owner
> can
> still renew the domain name.
>
> Once the registrar hold expires the domain name will go into the next
> step:
> "redemption period". This usually lasts for 30 days, but some domain
> names
> can sit in redemption period for a longer time. During this time the
> owner
> can "restore" the domain name (similar, but not the same as renewing the
> domain name: imagine renewing the domain name, but with a hefty surcharge
> on
> top of the regular fee)
>
> Once the redemption period is over the domain name goes into "pending
> delete" where it usually stays for 5 days. At this point the original
> owner
> can't renew or restore the domain name... they have to wait until it has
> officially expired before they can try to get it back.
>
> And then finally... once the "pending delete" period is over the domain
> name
> is finally available for anybody to register.
>
>

is this also the proceedure for a dot co dot uk ?
[*** don't think so ***]

Martin Harran

2006-09-24, 6:58 pm

"DoobieDo" <doobie@do.dah> wrote in message
news:5GsPg.10825$cd1.1587@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...

> is this also the proceedure for a dot co dot uk ?
> [*** don't think so ***]

I'm watching* a co.uk domain at the moment, as far as I have been able to
figure out, the process is fairly similar and the domain becomes available
either 90 or 99 - don't know why it can be either - days after the
registration was due for renewal.

(* 78 days so far and counting ..)

sir robert blake

2006-09-24, 6:58 pm

"Auggie" <Imperial.Palace@Rome.It> wrote in
news:JTqPg.19504$bf5.9020@edtnps90:

>
> "John" <John_nospam@hhhhhhhhhh.com> wrote in message
> news:occsg2hqhd375i4692revj1a8jk7qa5al7@4ax.com...
>
> No.
>
> If a domain name says it expires "October 1, 2006" it doesn't
> immediatly become available for anybody to register on October 1st...
> it just stops working.
>
> When the domain name hits its expiration date it will then go into a
> state of "registrar hold" for the next 40 days... during which time
> the owner can still renew the domain name.
>
> Once the registrar hold expires the domain name will go into the next
> step: "redemption period". This usually lasts for 30 days, but some
> domain names can sit in redemption period for a longer time. During
> this time the owner can "restore" the domain name (similar, but not
> the same as renewing the domain name: imagine renewing the domain
> name, but with a hefty surcharge on top of the regular fee)
>
> Once the redemption period is over the domain name goes into "pending
> delete" where it usually stays for 5 days. At this point the original
> owner can't renew or restore the domain name... they have to wait
> until it has officially expired before they can try to get it back.
>
> And then finally... once the "pending delete" period is over the
> domain name is finally available for anybody to register.

Auggie, very informative post, many thanks!

I always wondered how domain name expirations worked.

I can rest easier now, knowing that there is plenty of slack in the
system, should one miss renewing on time.

Blinky the Shark

2006-09-24, 6:58 pm

Auggie wrote:

> If a domain name says it expires "October 1, 2006" it doesn't immediatly
> become available for anybody to register on October 1st... it just stops
> working.
>
> When the domain name hits its expiration date it will then go into a state
> of "registrar hold" for the next 40 days... during which time the owner can
> still renew the domain name.
>
> Once the registrar hold expires the domain name will go into the next step:
> "redemption period". This usually lasts for 30 days, but some domain names
> can sit in redemption period for a longer time. During this time the owner
> can "restore" the domain name (similar, but not the same as renewing the
> domain name: imagine renewing the domain name, but with a hefty surcharge on
> top of the regular fee)
>
> Once the redemption period is over the domain name goes into "pending
> delete" where it usually stays for 5 days. At this point the original owner
> can't renew or restore the domain name... they have to wait until it has
> officially expired before they can try to get it back.
>
> And then finally... once the "pending delete" period is over the domain name
> is finally available for anybody to register.

How much does this vary between registrars and TLDs?

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William Tasso

2006-09-24, 6:58 pm

Fleeing from the madness of the http://blinkynet.net jungle
Blinky the Shark <no.spam@box.invalid> stumbled into news:alt.www.webmaster
and said:

> Auggie wrote:
>

[domain expiry lifecycle]

>
> How much does this vary between registrars and TLDs?

[some] Registrars like to keep a domain going for as long as possible -
many will change the nameservers come the documented expiry date and cream
whatever they can get from advertising while the domain slowly dies a
natural.

--
William Tasso

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Blinky the Shark

2006-09-24, 6:58 pm

William Tasso wrote:
> Fleeing from the madness of the http://blinkynet.net jungle
> Blinky the Shark <no.spam@box.invalid> stumbled into news:alt.www.webmaster
> and said:
>
>
> [domain expiry lifecycle]
>
>
> [some] Registrars like to keep a domain going for as long as possible -
> many will change the nameservers come the documented expiry date and cream
> whatever they can get from advertising while the domain slowly dies a
> natural.

Gotcha. I figured the explanation that I responded to was a little too
pat, and not at all universally applicable.

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