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needin4mation@gmail.com

2006-08-28, 6:40 pm


Karl Groves wrote:
> needin4mation@XXXXXXXXXX wrote in news:1156779049.372340.286770
> @b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
>
>
> Spend the money on a competent graphic designer. That's what I do. I can't
> design anything attractive to save my life, but I can put it together once
> someone else does the creative part!
>
> --
> Karl Groves
> www.karlcore.com


Can you give me a reference on who you use? email is fine. Thanks.

Karl Groves

2006-08-28, 6:40 pm

needin4mation@XXXXXXXXXX wrote in
news:1156782847.063007.159590@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

>
> Karl Groves wrote:
>
> Can you give me a reference on who you use? email is fine. Thanks.
>


Email sent.

--
Karl Groves
www.karlcore.com
Alan

2006-08-29, 6:47 pm

Well, you got through the first step - recognising they need
improvement! I reckon you should give it a go yourself because you know
better than anyone else how they should look.

But first take a look at http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com/

Alan

userdesigngroup.com

2006-08-30, 6:54 am

I have programming skills and basic photoshop ability. I'm just
> looking for a little help so as not be so plain. Sigh. Maybe adwords
> is the best I can do. I have no real inventory. Why would they ever
> come to me in the first place? Okay, enough feeling sorry for myself.
> Any words of wisdom? Take a graphic arts course? Thanks.



AdWords won't do a darn thing for you if you can't convert those clicks
to sales, and conversion is about having the right content there at the
landing page. Most often people are convinced by results. They want
100% assurance that you can deliver what they are after, and if you
don't have what they are after, NOTHING will convince them.

My suggestion is to narrow your focus rather than broaden it, because
different designers have different strengths. For example, one of my
strengths is design for B2B IT clients. I know my customer and their
target audience well enough to either nail the status quo (which they
find comforting) or achieve what they're after based on their project
requirements.

Narrow your focus to a design project you KNOW you can nail.

In the beginning, it's OK to copy/echo other people's designs in order
to find your own. Without doing that, you don't have a real useful
design vocabulary.

Best of luck!

Luke

William Tasso

2006-08-30, 6:54 am

Fleeing from the madness of the http://groups.google.com jungle
userdesigngroup.com <info@userdesigngroup.com> stumbled into
news:alt.www.webmaster
and said:

> ...
> design vocabulary.


that's a new one on me.

--
William Tasso

http://williamtasso.com/words/what-is-usenet.asp
Karl Groves

2006-08-30, 6:43 pm

"William Tasso" <SpamBlocked@tbdata.com> wrote in news:op.te288faim9g4qz-
wnt@tbdata.com:

> Fleeing from the madness of the http://groups.google.com jungle
> userdesigngroup.com <info@userdesigngroup.com> stumbled into
> news:alt.www.webmaster
> and said:
>
>
> that's a new one on me.
>


Yeah, add that to the list of corporate buzzwords that make me want to go
on a killing spree.

--
Karl Groves
www.karlcore.com
Andy Dingley

2006-08-30, 6:43 pm


William Tasso wrote:

>
> that's a new one on me.


It has been around since the 1920s, at least. German Modernist design
movements were certainly fond of it.

Charles Sweeney

2006-08-30, 6:43 pm

Karl Groves wrote

> "William Tasso" <SpamBlocked@tbdata.com> wrote in
> news:op.te288faim9g4qz- wnt@tbdata.com:
>
>
> Yeah, add that to the list of corporate buzzwords that make me want to
> go on a killing spree.


AOL!

--
Charles Sweeney
http://CharlesSweeney.com
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