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What will your domain cost to renew? $50,000?
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| Viper 2006-08-27, 10:32 pm |
| Have you all seen this?
http://icann.org/announcements/anno...t-2-28jul06.htm
ICANN is going to remove the caps on how much you pay for a .biz .info .org
domain. What this means is...
Say you register yourcooldomain.biz with GoDaddy and goto renew it next
year. GoDaddy could charge you whatever they wished. What happens to your
site if your register thinks your domain is now worth $1,000 or even $50,000
to renew for one year?
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| Jerry Stuckle 2006-08-27, 10:32 pm |
| Viper wrote:
> Have you all seen this?
>
> http://icann.org/announcements/anno...t-2-28jul06.htm
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> ICANN is going to remove the caps on how much you pay for a .biz .info .org
> domain. What this means is...
>
> Say you register yourcooldomain.biz with GoDaddy and goto renew it next
> year. GoDaddy could charge you whatever they wished. What happens to your
> site if your register thinks your domain is now worth $1,000 or even $50,000
> to renew for one year?
>
>
I doubt that will be a problem. Even if GoDaddy changes its rates
(which I doubt they will - at least much, there will be someone with
reasonable rates.
And if there aren't, there will be such an international hue and cry
ICANN will either have to reinstate controls or risk losing control of
the TLD's altogether. The U.S.,U.N.or someone will nationalize it (note
I'm NOT in favor of that - but I predict someone will try).
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| Charles Sweeney 2006-08-28, 6:38 am |
| Viper wrote
> Have you all seen this?
>
> http://icann.org/announcements/anno...t-2-28jul06.htm
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> ICANN is going to remove the caps on how much you pay for a .biz .info
> .org domain. What this means is...
>
> Say you register yourcooldomain.biz with GoDaddy and goto renew it
> next year. GoDaddy could charge you whatever they wished. What happens
> to your site if your register thinks your domain is now worth $1,000
> or even $50,000 to renew for one year?
I've already had that, where it costs more for renewals then the
original registration cost. This might have been due to the original
cost being a special offer.
I wasn't aware the there were currently caps in place. Market forces
dictate the prices, and registrars are competing with each other, which
generally keeps prices low. If one was to start charging crazy prices,
then the competition would gain from it.
It would be worth checking what the renewal costs were before
registering, or getting a statement from the registrar about their
policy on this.
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Charles Sweeney
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| GreyWyvern 2006-08-28, 6:40 pm |
| And lo, Charles Sweeney didst speak in alt.www.webmaster:
> Viper wrote
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> I wasn't aware the there were currently caps in place. Market forces
> dictate the prices, and registrars are competing with each other, which
> generally keeps prices low. If one was to start charging crazy prices,
> then the competition would gain from it.
I can't believe it. Charles responding civilly to a post by Viper? :o
Anyway, ICANN has just lifted price controls, which allows registrars to
charge anything, but does not prevent them from keeping prices low. This
is actually good news for registrars like Godaddy which have a history of
"playing fair" with its customers concerning pricing.
If your registrar suddenly charges you $1,000 or more to renew, just
transfer your domain to another which doesn't.
Grey
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| Karl Groves 2006-08-28, 6:40 pm |
| GreyWyvern <spam@greywyvern.com> wrote in
news:op.tez0d6g8sl6xfd@news.nas.net:
> And lo, Charles Sweeney didst speak in alt.www.webmaster:
>
>
> I can't believe it. Charles responding civilly to a post by Viper? :o
>
> Anyway, ICANN has just lifted price controls, which allows registrars
> to charge anything, but does not prevent them from keeping prices
> low. This is actually good news for registrars like Godaddy which
> have a history of "playing fair" with its customers concerning
> pricing.
>
> If your registrar suddenly charges you $1,000 or more to renew, just
> transfer your domain to another which doesn't.
>
And/ Or register for the maximum term allowed now.
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Karl Groves
www.karlcore.com
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| Marc Bissonnette 2006-08-28, 6:40 pm |
| GreyWyvern <spam@greywyvern.com> altered the spacetime fabric by
disgorging news:op.tez0d6g8sl6xfd@news.nas.net:
> And lo, Charles Sweeney didst speak in alt.www.webmaster:
>
>
> I can't believe it. Charles responding civilly to a post by Viper? :o
>
> Anyway, ICANN has just lifted price controls, which allows registrars
> to charge anything, but does not prevent them from keeping prices
> low. This is actually good news for registrars like Godaddy which
> have a history of "playing fair" with its customers concerning
> pricing.
>
> If your registrar suddenly charges you $1,000 or more to renew, just
> transfer your domain to another which doesn't.
I was wondering how long it would take someone to state the obvious ;)
The only scenario where this price-cap lifting would cause concern is if
all the registrars simultaneously raised their prices to $ridiculous_rate
Then, of course, you run into price fixing and racketeering scenarios :)
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| Jerry Stuckle 2006-08-28, 6:40 pm |
| Marc Bissonnette wrote:
> GreyWyvern <spam@greywyvern.com> altered the spacetime fabric by
> disgorging news:op.tez0d6g8sl6xfd@news.nas.net:
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>
>
> I was wondering how long it would take someone to state the obvious ;)
>
> The only scenario where this price-cap lifting would cause concern is if
> all the registrars simultaneously raised their prices to $ridiculous_rate
>
> Then, of course, you run into price fixing and racketeering scenarios :)
>
>
The nice thing is it doesn't take a huge investment to become a
registrar. If everyone did start charging obnoxiously high prices,
someone else would come in and undercut everyone - and prices would be
low again.
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| TechnoHippie 2006-08-29, 6:46 pm |
| GreyWyvern <spam@greywyvern.com> wrote in
news:op.te0jaqaasl6xfd@news.nas.net:
> There are laws against this kind of extortion.
There are laws against slavery, too ... but that doesn't stop folks from
handing over thier personal freedoms to any John, Dick and George. *smile*
Just wanted to make your day, Grey :)
Judy
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"GreyWyvern"
| >> Relatively speaking, .ws is very little used compared to .biz and .info
| >> and .org. I doubt the world's domain owners would endure such
| >> blackmail silently.
| >
| > Been to the gas stations lately?
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| A completely illogical comparison: For one thing, gasoline is a
| consumable, not property, and for another, the issue at hand is the same
| vendor offering the same service to different people at vastly different
| prices.
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| A more accurate analogy would be your landlord deciding to charge you
| $10,000 for your next month's rent, then when you move out, offering it to
| the next guy for $1,000.
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| There are laws against this kind of extortion.
I don't know where you live but I know of few places that still have rent
control.
Without getting into the dynamics of the oil patch the point was not gas
itself but the propensity of the consumer putting up with abuse.
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| TechnoHippie wrote:
> "Viper" <venomx@XXXXXXXXXX> wrote in
> news:y4idnWOhqvQ8rm_ZnZ2dnUVZ_qadnZ2d@comcast.com:
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> But they won't, which is why I use GD as both a registrar and host.
> How do I know? Because I know Bob Parsons well enough to know this
> is the sort of bullcrap he's defending us against.
>
> You're very easily terrorized, aren't you?
>
And if the people that took over the .com domains said that GoDaddy HAD to
charge you $10,000 a year for technohippie.com or lose all rights to sell
..com domains?
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| Dylan Parry 2006-08-29, 6:46 pm |
| Viper wrote:
> And if the people that took over the .com domains said that GoDaddy HAD to
> charge you $10,000 a year for technohippie.com or lose all rights to sell
> .com domains?
Surely that would constitute price fixing?
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Programming, n: A pastime similar to banging one's head
against a wall, but with fewer opportunities for reward.
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| William Tasso 2006-08-29, 6:47 pm |
| Fleeing from the madness of the jungle
Dylan Parry <usenet@dylanparry.com> stumbled into news:alt.www.webmaster
and said:
> Viper wrote:
>
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> Surely that would constitute price fixing?
Which is only illegal when propogated by organisations with commerce as
their stated aim.
When an elected administration (or a charity) forces price constraints ...
it's for "our own good"
domain duty?
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William Tasso
http://williamtasso.com/words/what-is-usenet.asp
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| GreyWyvern 2006-08-29, 6:47 pm |
| And lo, NotMe didst speak in alt.www.webmaster:
> "GreyWyvern"
>
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> I don't know where you live but I know of few places that still have rent
> control.
Who said anything about rent control? The key issue of the analogy (which
you have so nicely decided to dissect rather than the real issue) is the
disparate treatment of tenants.
> Without getting into the dynamics of the oil patch the point was not gas
> itself but the propensity of the consumer putting up with abuse.
You betray your ignorance of the global situation. The original premise
was getting charged $1,000, $10,000 or $50,000 for renewal of a domain
which originally cost $10, at the same time *other* domains *still* cost
$10. Even the worst lawyer would have no trouble working up an accusation
of extortion, since it doesn't cost the registrar any more to store one
domain than the next.
Compared to that, we're still paying *pennies* for gasoline. Quite
honestly, I wish the price of it was higher; then we *would* stop putting
up with it.
Grey
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pitfall corollary that nothing is ridiculous.
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| GreyWyvern 2006-08-29, 6:47 pm |
| And lo, TechnoHippie didst speak in alt.www.webmaster:
> GreyWyvern <spam@greywyvern.com> wrote:
>
>
> There are laws against slavery, too ... but that doesn't stop folks from
> handing over thier personal freedoms to any John, Dick and George.
> *smile*
Yesh, but handing over your freedoms, like privacy and such, usually
doesn't involve money. When it does, you can bet people will get
laywers! :)
> Just wanted to make your day, Grey :)
Bah!
Grey
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pitfall corollary that nothing is ridiculous.
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| TechnoHippie 2006-08-29, 6:47 pm |
| "Viper" <venomx@XXXXXXXXXX> wrote in
news:Y_WdnZA-VPFeV27ZnZ2dnUVZ_rCdnZ2d@comcast.com:
> And if the people that took over the .com domains said that GoDaddy
> HAD to charge you $10,000 a year for technohippie.com or lose all
> rights to sell .com domains?
XXXX Off
Judy
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| TechnoHippie 2006-08-29, 6:47 pm |
| GreyWyvern <spam@greywyvern.com> wrote in
news:op.te1rxsb0sl6xfd@news.nas.net:
> And lo, TechnoHippie didst speak in alt.www.webmaster:
>
>
> Yesh, but handing over your freedoms, like privacy and such, usually
> doesn't involve money. When it does, you can bet people will get
> laywers! :)
>
>
> Bah!
Or take away thier three square meals a day, or take away toilet paper or
plastic wrap or big brother to hold thier dicks while they piss. I can
just see Jerry and the other prudes gasping at my foul language. Well,
guess what? This lifestyle is XXXXing obscene.
Judy
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| GreyWyvern 2006-08-29, 6:47 pm |
| And lo, TechnoHippie didst speak in alt.www.webmaster:
> GreyWyvern <spam@greywyvern.com> wrote:
>
>
> So, you've seen "The Oil Factor," then?
WRT the OP, this line of discussion has become totally irrelevant,
inflammatory, and I am ending my participation in it right here.
Grey
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| Matt-the-Hoople 2006-08-29, 6:47 pm |
| Quoth TechnoHippie in alt.www.webmaster
> There are laws against slavery, too ... but that doesn't stop folks
> from handing over thier personal freedoms to any John, Dick and
> George. *smile*
Elsewhere, NASA cancelled the launch of the space shuttle Atlantis after two of the astronauts attempted to carry liquids on
board.
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| Charles Sweeney 2006-08-29, 6:47 pm |
| GreyWyvern wrote
> I can't believe it. Charles responding civilly to a post by Viper? :o
Hee hee!
Strangely enough, I've done it before. I think it was two years ago when
he made his last civil post!
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| Charles Sweeney 2006-08-29, 6:47 pm |
| Karl Groves wrote
> GreyWyvern <spam@greywyvern.com> wrote in
> news:op.tez0d6g8sl6xfd@news.nas.net:
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> And/ Or register for the maximum term allowed now.
Very good point. I usually only renew one year at a time (cash flow) but
with today's low prices that could be worth a try.
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http://CharlesSweeney.com
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| Karl Groves 2006-08-29, 6:47 pm |
| Charles Sweeney <me@charlessweeney.com> wrote in
news:Xns982EC1F8DF3EDmecharlessweeneycom@130.133.1.4:
> Karl Groves wrote
>
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> Very good point. I usually only renew one year at a time (cash flow)
> but with today's low prices that could be worth a try.
>
Anecdotal evidence also suggests that Google looks favorably upon those
sites with long registrations, because they take it as a sign that the site
is serious. Anyone can register a name for only a year. Fork out the money
($60 - $140, depending on registrar) for 10 years, and it means you're
serious.
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Karl Groves
www.karlcore.com
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| Jerry Stuckle 2006-08-29, 6:47 pm |
| TechnoHippie wrote:
> GreyWyvern <spam@greywyvern.com> wrote in
> news:op.te1rxsb0sl6xfd@news.nas.net:
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> Or take away thier three square meals a day, or take away toilet paper or
> plastic wrap or big brother to hold thier dicks while they piss. I can
> just see Jerry and the other prudes gasping at my foul language. Well,
> guess what? This lifestyle is XXXXing obscene.
>
> Judy
Naw, Judy, not at all. I'm not a prude, and your language doesn't
bother me. I just don't often use it in a public forum.
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| Karl Groves 2006-08-29, 6:47 pm |
| Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote in
news:eIGdnc7p0u4XF2nZnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d@comcast.com:
> TechnoHippie wrote:
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> Naw, Judy, not at all. I'm not a prude, and your language doesn't
> bother me. I just don't often use it in a public forum.
>
Yeah. He called me an MF'er on the phone the other day!
(just kidding. he prolly will now, though)
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www.karlcore.com
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"Dylan Parry" <usenet@dylanparry.com> wrote in message
news:4liae1F21fhgU1@individual.net...
| Viper wrote:
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| > And if the people that took over the .com domains said that GoDaddy HAD
to
| > charge you $10,000 a year for technohippie.com or lose all rights to
sell
| > .com domains?
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| Surely that would constitute price fixing?
Have you been to the gas station lately?
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| TechnoHippie wrote:
> "Viper" <venomx@XXXXXXXXXX> wrote in
> news:Y_WdnZA-VPFeV27ZnZ2dnUVZ_rCdnZ2d@comcast.com:
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> XXXX Off
>
> Judy
Typical of Judy, owner of technohippie.com, she cant take not being right.
She will resort to childish acts.
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| Dylan Parry 2006-08-30, 6:54 am |
| NotMe wrote:
> Have you been to the gas station lately?
Nope. I don't go near "gas stations" because I live in the UK, where
despite prices being sky-high, there is still a degree of variation in
petrol prices.
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Programming, n: A pastime similar to banging one's head
against a wall, but with fewer opportunities for reward.
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| Viper 2006-08-30, 10:46 pm |
| TechnoHippie wrote:
> "Viper" <venomx@XXXXXXXXXX> wrote in
> news:a6idnclqqIugZGnZnZ2dnUVZ_oydnZ2d@comcast.com:
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> You have no idea, you pitiful little troll. You have no idea.
>
The only troll is you. BTW please fix your sig.. its broken.
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