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Mark Goodge

2006-06-08, 7:26 pm

If you were asked to quote for a site that's pretty much functionally
the same as http://www.bluenile.com/, what would you say it would
cost? A ballpark figure is fine - the question is to settle an office
argument, not generate a contract :-)

Mark
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SmakDaddy

2006-06-08, 7:26 pm


"Mark Goodge" <usenet@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk> wrote in message
news:imq582lenek1tet6njnf0krodrn32o1jar@news.markshouse.net...
> If you were asked to quote for a site that's pretty much functionally
> the same as http://www.bluenile.com/, what would you say it would
> cost? A ballpark figure is fine - the question is to settle an office
> argument, not generate a contract :-)
>
> Mark


The art of the store should be at least reflective of it's value ;)
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Dylan Parry

2006-06-08, 7:26 pm

Mark Goodge wrote:

> If you were asked to quote for a site that's pretty much functionally
> the same as http://www.bluenile.com/, what would you say it would
> cost?


Full shopping cart from scratch or using a pre-built system? Using JSP
as the above site, or in language of choice? I guess the price would
vary, but at a stab I'd say you'd be looking at several £k, and probably
upwards of 10. It certainly wouldn't be a cheap site anyway.

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Brian Wakem

2006-06-08, 7:26 pm

Mark Goodge wrote:

> If you were asked to quote for a site that's pretty much functionally
> the same as http://www.bluenile.com/, what would you say it would
> cost? A ballpark figure is fine - the question is to settle an office
> argument, not generate a contract :-)
>
> Mark



I'd say 10k (sterling).


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Steve Pugh

2006-06-08, 7:26 pm

Mark Goodge <usenet@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk> wrote:

>If you were asked to quote for a site that's pretty much functionally
>the same as http://www.bluenile.com/, what would you say it would
>cost? A ballpark figure is fine - the question is to settle an office
>argument, not generate a contract :-)


At least £10k-£20k for the planning, design and fuctionality. More if
a good sales team can spin it.

Also more if loading the product details, product photos, etc. was to
be done by the developers rather than by the clients.

Steve
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Eric Jarvis

2006-06-08, 7:26 pm

Brian Wakem no@email.com wrote in <4egaqfF1cdt9nU1@individual.net>:
> Mark Goodge wrote:
>
>
> I'd say 10k (sterling).
>


I'd say that's a sensible starting point at least. I can see how more
could be spent. I can see how less can be spent but not without risking
functionality or security.

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William Tasso

2006-06-08, 7:26 pm

Fleeing from the madness of the e42 jungle
Eric Jarvis <usenet@ericjarvis.co.uk> stumbled into news:alt.www.webmaster
and said:

> Brian Wakem no@email.com wrote in <4egaqfF1cdt9nU1@individual.net>:
>
> I'd say that's a sensible starting point at least. I can see how more
> could be spent. I can see how less can be spent


You took the words right outta my mouth <g>

> but not without risking
> functionality or security.


indeed.

aye £10k - £20k gets my vote.

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trevor

2006-06-08, 7:26 pm

Mark Goodge wrote:

> If you were asked to quote for a site that's pretty much functionally
> the same as http://www.bluenile.com/, what would you say it would
> cost? A ballpark figure is fine - the question is to settle an office
> argument, not generate a contract :-)
>
> Mark


a lot of the price is going to depend on the client. do they have a well
constructed catalog database, how many records, etc. on the other hand, i
can bang out an OSCommerce site pretty quickly. We're probably looking at
the $6-8k USD range.
Karl Groves

2006-06-08, 7:26 pm

trevor <not@home.now> wrote in news:dTOgg.83240$IZ2.4148@dukeread07:

> Mark Goodge wrote:
>
>
> a lot of the price is going to depend on the client. do they have a well
> constructed catalog database, how many records, etc. on the other hand, i
> can bang out an OSCommerce site pretty quickly. We're probably looking at
> the $6-8k USD range.


I think a lot of the estimates here are really low for a site like that, if
it was completely custom. I'd say $6-8k if it was OSCommerce, and maybe
upwards of 6-figures if it was custom.

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Tony

2006-06-08, 7:26 pm

William Tasso wrote:
> Fleeing from the madness of the e42 jungle
> Eric Jarvis <usenet@ericjarvis.co.uk> stumbled into news:alt.www.webmaster
> and said:
>
>
>
> You took the words right outta my mouth <g>
>
>
>
> indeed.
>
> aye £10k - £20k gets my vote.
>


That would be about $20-40,000 U.S.? Sounds reasonable
William Tasso

2006-06-08, 7:26 pm

Fleeing from the madness of the Posted via Supernews,
http://www.supernews.com jungle
Tony <tony23@dslextreme.WHATISTHIS.com> stumbled into
news:alt.www.webmaster
and said:

> William Tasso wrote:
>
> That would be about $20-40,000 U.S.? Sounds reasonable


xe.com says ....

10,000.00 GBP United Kingdom Pounds = 18,792.19 USD United States Dollars

so, yeah :)

Crikey, I didn't realise we get sooo many dollars to the pound these days.

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Charles Sweeney

2006-06-08, 7:26 pm

William Tasso wrote

> Crikey, I didn't realise we get sooo many dollars to the pound these
> days.


Selling in Dollars, it is my unfortunate position to confirm that!

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trevor

2006-06-08, 7:26 pm

William Tasso wrote:

> Fleeing from the madness of the Posted via Supernews,
> http://www.supernews.com jungle
> Tony <tony23@dslextreme.WHATISTHIS.com> stumbled into
> news:alt.www.webmaster
> and said:
>
>
> xe.com says ....
>
> 10,000.00 GBP United Kingdom Pounds = 18,792.19 USD United States Dollars
>
> so, yeah :)
>
> Crikey, I didn't realise we get sooo many dollars to the pound these days.
>


those prices are too high for an off-the-shelf software pull and too low for
a ground-up on a fully featured e-com site. although why anyone would want
to do a ground-up in this day and age is beyond me. i'd repurpose OSC
modules before re-writing them.
Matt Silberstein

2006-06-08, 7:28 pm

On Sun, 04 Jun 2006 22:38:17 +0100, in alt.www.webmaster , "William
Tasso" <SpamBlocked@tbdata.com> in <op.tam413wdm9g4qz-wnt@tbdata.com>
wrote:

>Fleeing from the madness of the e42 jungle
>Eric Jarvis <usenet@ericjarvis.co.uk> stumbled into news:alt.www.webmaster
>and said:
>
>
>You took the words right outta my mouth <g>
>
>
>indeed.
>
>aye £10k - £20k gets my vote.


I suspect that Blue Nile spent way more than that. We need to remember
the big difference between developing something and making a copy.
Blue Nile is not the best site around, but I am sure they did lots of
work testing the design and implementation. Testing cost considerably
more than £10k.


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trevor

2006-06-08, 7:28 pm

Matt Silberstein wrote:

> On Sun, 04 Jun 2006 22:38:17 +0100, in alt.www.webmaster , "William
> Tasso" <SpamBlocked@tbdata.com> in <op.tam413wdm9g4qz-wnt@tbdata.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> I suspect that Blue Nile spent way more than that. We need to remember
> the big difference between developing something and making a copy.
> Blue Nile is not the best site around, but I am sure they did lots of
> work testing the design and implementation. Testing cost considerably
> more than £10k.
>
>


i'd echo the word testing. if someone were to issue a true challenge to the
group (including dataSpheric) it would be "how do you integrate testing
into your cost". which is a trick question, because the next question for
the seriously informed customer would be "can you show me a proposed
testing matrix for X function?"

for a ground-up level job, the project manager should be able to develop a
decent matrix in advance of the project based on the specs (s)he wrote, or
even outline them up on the spot. this person would just have to cycle
through the user states and the functional modules already described in
spec. for ecommerce, it's absolutely known territory. for that matter, a
good project manager will have already calculated the costs of testing into
production...

BUT!

the production project manager relies upon upstream testing. like
by_another_department. that is the triple-whammy on that one.

in the corporate sense, user acceptance and quality assurance is determined
in realtime, real-life or tests thereof. this is supposed to exhaust the
test matrix and move into focus groups and into deployment.

ok, let's just triple the project budget.

OR

flip the switch. think "launch with beta".


William Tasso

2006-06-08, 7:28 pm

Fleeing from the madness of the dataSpheric jungle
trevor <not@home.now> stumbled into news:alt.www.webmaster
and said:

> ...
> OR
>
> flip the switch. think "launch with beta".


mmmm, lunch with Betty - sounds ideal. btw: how's that project coming on?


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trevor

2006-06-11, 3:59 am

William Tasso wrote:

> Fleeing from the madness of the dataSpheric jungle
> trevor <not@home.now> stumbled into news:alt.www.webmaster
> and said:
>
>
> mmmm, lunch with Betty - sounds ideal. btw: how's that project coming on?
>
>


lunch with Betty or....?
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