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Zip file utilities
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| Jerry Stuckle 2006-05-29, 6:48 pm |
| I need to change one of my sites. It has zip files on it, with links to WinZip.
However, the current version of WinZip isn't free. So I need to find a free
replacement to direct users to.
So, what's your favorite unzipper?
Tia
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Jerry Stuckle
JDS Computer Training Corp.
jstucklex@attglobal.net
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| Gordon Hudson 2006-05-29, 6:48 pm |
|
"Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote in message
news:s7CdnUzspp5fxebZRVn-vA@comcast.com...
>I need to change one of my sites. It has zip files on it, with links to
>WinZip.
>
> However, the current version of WinZip isn't free. So I need to find a
> free replacement to direct users to.
>
> So, what's your favorite unzipper?
>
Windows built in compression utility will unzip standard zip files.
I still use winzip though.
I use it so often its worth the money.
I use the "zip and email" function a lot for small text files to stop them
triggering spam filters.
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| In article <s7CdnUzspp5fxebZRVn-vA@comcast.com>, jstucklex@attglobal.net
says...
> I need to change one of my sites. It has zip files on it, with links to WinZip.
>
> However, the current version of WinZip isn't free. So I need to find a free
> replacement to direct users to.
>
> So, what's your favorite unzipper?
>
> Tia
>
>
I use IZArc.
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| GreyWyvern 2006-05-29, 6:48 pm |
| And lo, Jerry Stuckle didst speak in alt.www.webmaster:
> So, what's your favorite unzipper?
A loaded question if ever there was one...
Personally, 7-zip beats them all hands down. Great compression and a
clean interface.
http://www.7-zip.org/
Grey
--
The technical axiom that nothing is impossible sinisterly implies the
pitfall corollary that nothing is ridiculous.
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spider and site-search engine
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| Steve Sobol 2006-05-29, 6:48 pm |
| Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> I need to change one of my sites. It has zip files on it, with links to
> WinZip.
>
> However, the current version of WinZip isn't free. So I need to find a
> free replacement to direct users to.
>
> So, what's your favorite unzipper?
The best free unzip utility for Windows is 7-ZIP, www.7-zip.com.
--
Steve Sobol, Professional Geek ** Java/VB/VC/PHP/Perl ** Linux/*BSD/Windows
Apple Valley, California PGP:0xE3AE35ED
It's all fun and games until someone starts a bonfire in the living room.
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| Isaac Hunt 2006-05-29, 6:48 pm |
| Hi
> So, what's your favorite unzipper?
The young blonde from down the road ;-)
Personally I us winrar.
--
Isaac Hunt
Possibly the most handsome man here?
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| sir robert blake 2006-05-29, 6:48 pm |
| Isaac Hunt <info@3awebhosting.co.uk> wrote in news:bfxbkjlakkxj
$.nv63t13yu9u2.dlg@40tude.net:
> Hi
>
>
> The young blonde from down the road ;-)
lol
> Personally I us winrar.
>
winrar is the one I use too
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| William Tasso 2006-05-29, 6:48 pm |
| Fleeing from the madness of the GreyWyvern.com jungle
GreyWyvern <spam@greywyvern.com> stumbled into news:alt.www.webmaster
and said:
> And lo, Jerry Stuckle didst speak in alt.www.webmaster:
>
>
> A loaded question if ever there was one...
phnarr
> Personally, 7-zip beats them all hands down. Great compression and a
> clean interface.
>
> http://www.7-zip.org/
vote (7-zip) = +1
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William Tasso
http://williamtasso.com/words/what-is-usenet.asp
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| Charles Sweeney 2006-05-29, 6:48 pm |
| Jerry Stuckle wrote
> I need to change one of my sites. It has zip files on it, with links
> to WinZip.
>
> However, the current version of WinZip isn't free. So I need to find
> a free replacement to direct users to.
>
> So, what's your favorite unzipper?
I offer .zip files too, with links to winzip.com
Last time I checked, they offered it on a free trial, so the punters can
still use it if need be.
Doesn't Windows XP have a built-in unzipper? (Most of my customers are on
Windows.)
--
Charles Sweeney
http://CharlesSweeney.com
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| sir robert blake 2006-05-29, 6:48 pm |
| "William Tasso" <SpamBlocked@tbdata.com> wrote in news:op.tabzp4umm9g4qz-
wnt@tbdata.com:
> Fleeing from the madness of the GreyWyvern.com jungle
> GreyWyvern <spam@greywyvern.com> stumbled into news:alt.www.webmaster
> and said:
>
>
> phnarr
>
>
> vote (7-zip) = +1
>
never liked 7 Up
tho i know many who did claim to like it
BTW Our council has started to recycle bicyles
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| Mark Parnell 2006-05-29, 6:49 pm |
| Deciding to do something for the good of humanity, Gordon Hudson
<gordon@usenet3.hostroute.co.uk> declared in alt.www.webmaster:
> Windows built in compression utility will unzip standard zip files.
Windows didn't have built in zip support until XP.
--
Mark Parnell
My Usenet is improved; yours could be too:
http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html
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| Mark Parnell 2006-05-29, 10:44 pm |
| Deciding to do something for the good of humanity, Isaac Hunt
<info@3awebhosting.co.uk> declared in alt.www.webmaster:
> Personally I us winrar.
WinRAR is not free - it's shareware, same as WinZIP.
--
Mark Parnell
My Usenet is improved; yours could be too:
http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html
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| Chuck Anderson 2006-05-29, 10:45 pm |
| GreyWyvern wrote:
> And lo, Jerry Stuckle didst speak in alt.www.webmaster:
>
>
>
> A loaded question if ever there was one...
>
> Personally, 7-zip beats them all hands down. Great compression and a
> clean interface.
>
> http://www.7-zip.org/
>
This "discussion" got me to try the 7-zip command line interface. It
solved a small problem I've been having with Winzip in a PHP script,
..... so cool. Thanks. It works much better.
--
*****************************
Chuck Anderson • Boulder, CO
http://www.CycleTourist.com
Everyone's journey should be different,
so that we all are enriched
in new and endless ways
*****************************
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| freemont 2006-05-29, 10:45 pm |
| On Mon, 29 May 2006 16:25:45 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> I need to change one of my sites. It has zip files on it, with links to
> WinZip.
>
> However, the current version of WinZip isn't free. So I need to find a
> free replacement to direct users to.
>
> So, what's your favorite unzipper?
>
> Tia
Check out ZipCentral:
http://zipcentral.iscool.net/
Freeware, no nag screens, tiny download, interface very similar to WinZip,
works like a charm. This is what I've put on all my newbuilds for years
and never had a problem.
--
"Because all you of Earth are idiots!"
¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·-> freemont© <-·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯
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| Matt Probert 2006-05-30, 6:44 pm |
| On Mon, 29 May 2006 16:25:45 -0400, Jerry Stuckle
<jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
> what's your favorite unzipper?
Sharon from number 47....
<g>
Matt
--
Veritas Vincti
http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com
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| Matt Probert 2006-05-30, 6:44 pm |
| On Mon, 29 May 2006 22:09:30 +0100, "William Tasso"
<SpamBlocked@tbdata.com> wrote:
>Fleeing from the madness of the GreyWyvern.com jungle
>GreyWyvern <spam@greywyvern.com> stumbled into news:alt.www.webmaster
>and said:
>
>
>phnarr
I'be got in there. yes. Well you expect it? don't you?
>
>
>vote (7-zip) = +1
>
et moi.
I also like 7zip.
Matt
--
Veritas Vincti
http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com
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| Toby Inkster 2006-05-30, 6:44 pm |
| Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> However, the current version of WinZip isn't free. So I need to find a
> free replacement to direct users to.
I don't think WinZip has *ever* been free.
> So, what's your favorite unzipper?
Graphical one for Windows: 7zip.
Favourite overall: Infozip.
--
Toby A Inkster BSc (Hons) ARCS
Contact Me ~ http://tobyinkster.co.uk/contact
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| William Tasso 2006-05-30, 6:44 pm |
| Fleeing from the madness of the EasyNews, UseNet made Easy! jungle
sir robert blake <4444D@yahoo.com> stumbled into news:alt.www.webmaster
and said:
> ...
> BTW Our council has started to recycle bicyles.
So have I. Spent half of yesterday firkling with an array (what /is/ the
collective noun) of bikes. Bought a bike with a knackered rear wheel from
a neighbour - used it as a donor and have two additional bikes back on the
road now.
--
William Tasso
http://williamtasso.com/words/what-is-usenet.asp
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| Isaac Hunt 2006-05-30, 6:44 pm |
|
> WinRAR is not free - it's shareware, same as WinZIP.
Yup, but you could still direct people to the free trial download at
http://www.rarlab.com/download.htm :-)
--
Isaac Hunt
Possibly the most handsome man here?
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| Jerry Stuckle 2006-05-30, 6:44 pm |
| Charles Sweeney wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle wrote
>
>
>
>
> I offer .zip files too, with links to winzip.com
>
> Last time I checked, they offered it on a free trial, so the punters can
> still use it if need be.
>
> Doesn't Windows XP have a built-in unzipper? (Most of my customers are on
> Windows.)
>
Yea, but I don't like to tell people "Go ahead and download several megabytes of
files, use it for the next 30 days then pay for it". Especially when there are
good free products available.
And BTW - in reference to other comments - WinZip is no longer "shareware".
Shareware gives you the *option* of paying to use it - like WinZip used to be.
Now after a trial time you *must* pay to continue using it. It's just another
pay product with a free trial.
I don't have a problem with shareware, and have contributed a significant amount
of money to shareware products over the hears. But I won't tell others they
have to purchase something - or even download a limited free trial - unless I
have to.
Thanks for all the comments - looks like 7-zip is the way to go. Glad I asked;
I hadn't heard of it before and it looks great.
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Jerry Stuckle
JDS Computer Training Corp.
jstucklex@attglobal.net
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| Jerry Stuckle 2006-05-30, 6:44 pm |
| freemont wrote:
> On Mon, 29 May 2006 16:25:45 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Check out ZipCentral:
>
> http://zipcentral.iscool.net/
>
> Freeware, no nag screens, tiny download, interface very similar to WinZip,
> works like a charm. This is what I've put on all my newbuilds for years
> and never had a problem.
>
Thanks for the suggestion, Freemont. However, it looks like nothing on this
site has been updated in well over four years. And the only support is a
hotmail address with no guarantees of any response.
That would be fine for my personal use - but it's not the type of product I'd
care to recommend to a customer.
--
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Jerry Stuckle
JDS Computer Training Corp.
jstucklex@attglobal.net
==================
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| Jerry Stuckle 2006-05-30, 6:45 pm |
| Toby Inkster wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>
>
>
>
> I don't think WinZip has *ever* been free.
>
>
>
>
> Graphical one for Windows: 7zip.
>
> Favourite overall: Infozip.
>
Toby,
No, it hasn't been free - it's been shareware. I don't have a problem
recommending shareware - the user can decide whether to pay or not. But I don't
want to tell them they *must* buy a product (even if it has a 30 day free trial)
to access info on the site.
--
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Remove the "x" from my email address
Jerry Stuckle
JDS Computer Training Corp.
jstucklex@attglobal.net
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| Karl Groves 2006-05-30, 6:45 pm |
| www@probertencyclopaedia.com (Matt Probert) wrote in
news:447be99b.1388593@news.ntlworld.com:
> On Mon, 29 May 2006 22:09:30 +0100, "William Tasso"
> <SpamBlocked@tbdata.com> wrote:
>
>
> I'be got in there. yes. Well you expect it? don't you?
>
>
> et moi.
>
> I also like 7zip.
>
That's it. I'm gonna try it!
I've been using WinZip for a while but I always like a change.
--
Karl Groves
www.karlcore.com
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| sir robert blake 2006-05-30, 6:45 pm |
| "William Tasso" <SpamBlocked@tbdata.com> wrote in
news:op.tacwa4g3m9g4qz-wnt@tbdata.com:
> Fleeing from the madness of the EasyNews, UseNet made Easy! jungle
> sir robert blake <4444D@yahoo.com> stumbled into
> news:alt.www.webmaster and said:
>
>
> So have I. Spent half of yesterday firkling with an array (what /is/
> the collective noun) of bikes. Bought a bike with a knackered rear
> wheel from a neighbour - used it as a donor and have two additional
> bikes back on the road now.
good for u.....I was costing a new bicycle down the shop a few months ago
thinking of selling the car and going green
Do you cycle much, William?
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| William Tasso 2006-05-30, 6:45 pm |
| Fleeing from the madness of the EasyNews, UseNet made Easy! jungle
sir robert blake <4444D@yahoo.com> stumbled into news:alt.www.webmaster
and said:
> "William Tasso" <SpamBlocked@tbdata.com> wrote in
> news:op.tacwa4g3m9g4qz-wnt@tbdata.com:
>
>
>
> good for u.....I was costing a new bicycle down the shop a few months ago
>
> thinking of selling the car and going green
>
> Do you cycle much, William?
yes - but only recreational. I can't imagine I'd ever have reason to call
on a customer by cycle.
If there was any money in it I'd quite happily see out my days in a cycle
repair shop.
--
William Tasso
http://williamtasso.com/words/what-is-usenet.asp
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| William Tasso 2006-05-30, 6:45 pm |
| Fleeing from the madness of the The Probert Encyclopaedia jungle
Matt Probert <www@probertencyclopaedia.com> stumbled into
news:alt.www.webmaster
and said:
> On Tue, 30 May 2006 18:15:34 GMT, sir robert blake <4444D@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> ROTFL!
>
> There goes my monitor!
>
> William, green? Hahahhaaaaaa!
>
> William drives a slightly elderly Land Rover, complete with roof-rack.
> It uses so much fuel he get's christmas cards from George Bush and
> hate-mail from Friends of the Earth.....
s'all true - however, neither cycling nor Land Rovers have ever been an
area of political concern to me. The fact that others choose to is ...
uhm ... mildly entertaining.
--
William Tasso
http://williamtasso.com/words/what-is-usenet.asp
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| Charles Sweeney 2006-05-30, 6:45 pm |
| William Tasso wrote
> If there was any money in it I'd quite happily see out my days in a
> cycle repair shop.
I like fiddling with bikes too. I bought an old Muddy Fox from a
colleague, and ended up renewing most things on it! Including re-spoking a
wheel, which was a first for me, and had it's moments 'til I discovered I
was trying to make them too tight!
--
Charles Sweeney
http://CharlesSweeney.com
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| Charles Sweeney 2006-05-30, 6:45 pm |
| Karl Groves wrote
> www@probertencyclopaedia.com (Matt Probert) wrote in
> news:447be99b.1388593@news.ntlworld.com:
>
> That's it. I'm gonna try it!
> I've been using WinZip for a while but I always like a change.
I tried 7-Zip after it was recommended in here, but went back to Winzip.
Familiarity I suppose. Plus I don't do much in the way of zipping.
--
Charles Sweeney
http://CharlesSweeney.com
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| Charles Sweeney 2006-05-30, 6:45 pm |
| Jerry Stuckle wrote
> Charles Sweeney wrote:
>
> Yea, but I don't like to tell people "Go ahead and download several
> megabytes of files, use it for the next 30 days then pay for it".
> Especially when there are good free products available.
You can still use it after the trial period, but you have to wait for it to
cycle through the number of times you have used it. I know because I am
still using a free one! Actually, I don't in any way grudge them their
$29, I simply haven't got around to buying it.
--
Charles Sweeney
http://CharlesSweeney.com
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| William Tasso 2006-05-30, 6:45 pm |
| Fleeing from the madness of the No thank you jungle
Charles Sweeney <me@charlessweeney.com> stumbled into
news:alt.www.webmaster
and said:
> William Tasso wrote
>
>
> I like fiddling with bikes too. I bought an old Muddy Fox from a
> colleague, and ended up renewing most things on it! Including
> re-spoking a
> wheel, which was a first for me,
front or rear? how did you learn? spoking a wheel is one skill I have
yet to tackle.
> and had it's moments 'til I discovered I
> was trying to make them too tight!
ahh - yes, I can see how that may become a problem :)
--
William Tasso
http://williamtasso.com/words/what-is-usenet.asp
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| Charles Sweeney 2006-05-30, 6:45 pm |
| freemont wrote
> no nag screens
First time I have heard that expression...I like it!
My bro has worked in IT for a while. My favourite expression of his is
"plug and pray"!
--
Charles Sweeney
http://CharlesSweeney.com
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|
| On 30 May 2006 20:44:16 GMT, Charles Sweeney <me@charlessweeney.com>
scrawled:
> freemont wrote
>
>
> First time I have heard that expression...I like it!
>
> My bro has worked in IT for a while. My favourite expression of his is
> "plug and pray"!
For true "plug and pray", see what my rabbi friend sent me:
http://www.plug-pray.org/ENG/Home.html
--
MGW
Hofstadter's Law: It always takes longer than you expect, even
when you take into account Hofstadter's Law. - Douglas Hofstadter
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| sir robert blake 2006-05-30, 6:45 pm |
| "William Tasso" <SpamBlocked@tbdata.com> wrote in news:op.tadpzgram9g4qz-
wnt@tbdata.com:
> Fleeing from the madness of the The Probert Encyclopaedia jungle
> Matt Probert <www@probertencyclopaedia.com> stumbled into
> news:alt.www.webmaster
> and said:
>
>
>
> s'all true - however, neither cycling nor Land Rovers have ever been an
> area of political concern to me. The fact that others choose to is ...
> uhm ... mildly entertaining.
so you alternate between fuel guzzling and cycling, Sir William
I see the state police are out here these weeks checking for drunk
driving and those who have drugs in their system
aye, even prescribed tablets
When a journalist asked the top state trooper a while back, what
prescribed tablets were on the banned list re driving, he couldn't give
him an answer
You have to admire the flexibility state troopers, they seem to be able
to make the law up as they go along.
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| sir robert blake 2006-05-30, 6:45 pm |
| www@probertencyclopaedia.com (Matt Probert) wrote in news:447c95b7.45448875
@news.ntlworld.com:
>
>
> ROTFL!
>
> There goes my monitor!
>
> William, green? Hahahhaaaaaa!
>
big trees grow from little acorns tho
William will one day forsake his 4 by 4 and take up rambling (like me)
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| Charles Sweeney 2006-05-30, 6:45 pm |
| William Tasso wrote
> Fleeing from the madness of the No thank you jungle
> Charles Sweeney <me@charlessweeney.com> stumbled into
>
> front or rear? how did you learn? spoking a wheel is one skill I have
> yet to tackle.
Front. I learned the same way I learn most things, trial and error! I
picked the brains of the guy in the cycle shop first. Basically you do a
spoke, then you do the one opposite.
The front wheel was buckled, so I slackened the spokes, but by the time I
was done I had loosened them all and started from scratch.
--
Charles Sweeney
http://CharlesSweeney.com
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|
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| William Tasso 2006-06-03, 7:13 pm |
| Fleeing from the madness of the EasyNews, UseNet made Easy! jungle
sir robert blake <4444D@yahoo.com> stumbled into news:alt.www.webmaster
and said:
> "William Tasso" <SpamBlocked@tbdata.com> wrote in news:op.tadpzgram9g4qz-
> wnt@tbdata.com:
>
>
>
> so you alternate between fuel guzzling and cycling, Sir William
You can call it alternating if you like. I pay little attention to the
chatterings of those that witter on using emotional language about such
things.
FWIW the Land Rover can accomodate & transport three people, their luggage
and their bicycles a damn long way without the aid of those dumb (because
they obscure the brake lights) rear-mounted cycle carriers.
A car can do the same without the cycles.
Read into that whatever you will.
--
William Tasso
http://williamtasso.com/words/what-is-usenet.asp
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| Jerry Stuckle 2006-06-03, 7:13 pm |
| Charles Sweeney wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle wrote
>
>
>
>
> You can still use it after the trial period, but you have to wait for it to
> cycle through the number of times you have used it. I know because I am
> still using a free one! Actually, I don't in any way grudge them their
> $29, I simply haven't got around to buying it.
>
I think that was true with previous releases, but not the new one (10.0).
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JDS Computer Training Corp.
jstucklex@attglobal.net
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| sir robert blake 2006-06-03, 7:13 pm |
| "William Tasso" <SpamBlocked@tbdata.com> wrote in
news:op.tad0iuizm9g4qz-wnt@tbdata.com:
>
>
> You can call it alternating if you like. I pay little attention to
> the chatterings of those that witter on using emotional language
> about such things.
>
> FWIW the Land Rover can accomodate & transport three people, their
> luggage and their bicycles a damn long way without the aid of those
> dumb (because they obscure the brake lights) rear-mounted cycle
> carriers.
>
> A car can do the same without the cycles.
>
> Read into that whatever you will.
I detect some old baggage there good Sir William!
Personally I would like to see an electronic world where more folk can work
from home....and thus less cars are on the roads
and new energies that won't kill the planet of all life
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| Dylan Parry 2006-06-03, 7:13 pm |
| sir robert blake wrote:
> Personally I would like to see an electronic world where more folk can work
> from home....and thus less cars are on the roads
Or a place where people can live close enough to work that they can walk
there in the morning. This would have the added benefit of everyone
being a little fitter!
--
Dylan Parry
http://electricfreedom.org -- Where the Music Progressively Rocks!
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| Isaac Hunt 2006-06-03, 7:13 pm |
| Hi
>
> Personally I would like to see an electronic world where more folk can work
> from home....and thus less cars are on the roads
But this can only work for office type jobs. What of the manufacturing
world (not that there's much left in the UK) ? There's no option but to
travel to and from work. Personally I would love less cars on the road. It
would give me more chance to use my 2.5l V6 engine :-)
--
Isaac Hunt
Possibly the most handsome man here?
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| Karl Groves 2006-06-03, 7:13 pm |
| Isaac Hunt <info@3awebhosting.co.uk> wrote in
news:66hes8dqmh69.hl3qqu0vtwk3$.dlg@40tude.net:
> Hi
>
> But this can only work for office type jobs. What of the manufacturing
> world (not that there's much left in the UK) ? There's no option but
> to travel to and from work. Personally I would love less cars on the
> road. It would give me more chance to use my 2.5l V6 engine :-)
2.5? Wow, can that thing get out of its own way? ;-)
--
Karl Groves (putting a 7.2 liter in his Chevelle this summer)
www.karlcore.com
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| Isaac Hunt 2006-06-03, 7:13 pm |
| Hi
> 2.5? Wow, can that thing get out of its own way? ;-)
Karl Groves (putting a 7.2 liter in his Chevelle this summer)
7.2? Pah! Okay, 2.5 may be small compared to yours but it's pretty big for
the UK and it has got a top speed of 149 which is over twice the UK speed
limit. Biggest engine I've ever owned was a 250cu Camero - the smallest
engine in the range. Useless top end but tons of torque.
--
Isaac Hunt
Possibly the most handsome man here?
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| Matt Probert 2006-06-03, 7:13 pm |
| On Wed, 31 May 2006 00:21:56 +0100, "William Tasso"
<SpamBlocked@tbdata.com> wrote:
>Fleeing from the madness of the EasyNews, UseNet made Easy! jungle
>sir robert blake <4444D@yahoo.com> stumbled into news:alt.www.webmaster
>and said:
>
>
>You can call it alternating if you like. I pay little attention to the
>chatterings of those that witter on using emotional language about such
>things.
>
>FWIW the Land Rover can accomodate & transport three people, their luggage
>and their bicycles a damn long way without the aid of those dumb (because
>they obscure the brake lights) rear-mounted cycle carriers.
>
>A car can do the same without the cycles.
>
>Read into that whatever you will.
>
Thinks I that William's nerve hath been found and touched....
In fairness, I'd like to see a network engineer load up his bicycle
with his step-ladder, reels of cable, tools and the like and go off on
a job.
William doesn't drive the Land Rover for fashion (like a Chelsea
tractor), rather it's an essential work horse for his occupation.
Matt
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| Matt Probert 2006-06-03, 7:13 pm |
| On 30 May 2006 20:36:17 GMT, Charles Sweeney <me@charlessweeney.com>
wrote:
>William Tasso wrote
>
>
>I like fiddling with bikes too.
I used to. But the wife found out and threatened to cut it off......
Matt
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| sir robert blake 2006-06-03, 7:13 pm |
| Dylan Parry <usenet@dylanparry.com> wrote in
news:1gw845soyetsg.dlg@dylanparry.com:
> sir robert blake wrote:
>
>
> Or a place where people can live close enough to work that they can
> walk there in the morning. This would have the added benefit of
> everyone being a little fitter!
very true
Tho if we plebs get fitter, we live longer, and thus Bliar and his mates
won't like that notion.
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| sir robert blake 2006-06-03, 7:13 pm |
| Isaac Hunt <info@3awebhosting.co.uk> wrote in
news:66hes8dqmh69.hl3qqu0vtwk3$.dlg@40tude.net:
> Hi
>
> But this can only work for office type jobs. What of the manufacturing
> world (not that there's much left in the UK) ? There's no option but
> to travel to and from work. Personally I would love less cars on the
> road. It would give me more chance to use my 2.5l V6 engine :-)
yes, major manufacturing is a thing of the past.
Yes, wouldn't it be great to go back to the 70s or 80s era, where you coudl
go onto the motorway and there was so little traffic.
The problem is that every driveway now has 2 or 3 cars in it.
:(
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| sir robert blake 2006-06-03, 7:13 pm |
| www@probertencyclopaedia.com (Matt Probert) wrote in
news:447dcb32.324093@news.ntlworld.com:
>
> Thinks I that William's nerve hath been found and touched....
>
> In fairness, I'd like to see a network engineer load up his bicycle
> with his step-ladder, reels of cable, tools and the like and go off on
> a job.
>
> William doesn't drive the Land Rover for fashion (like a Chelsea
> tractor), rather it's an essential work horse for his occupation.
Yes, we do need our vehicles, tis true.
I just wish we would spend resources on finding clean energies that we
could use in our vehicles.
It would be nice if our kids and grandkids could drive cars too (and live
and breathe air on the planet).
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| William Tasso 2006-06-03, 7:13 pm |
| Fleeing from the madness of the The Probert Encyclopaedia jungle
Matt Probert <www@probertencyclopaedia.com> stumbled into
news:alt.www.webmaster
and said:
> On Wed, 31 May 2006 00:21:56 +0100, "William Tasso"
> <SpamBlocked@tbdata.com> wrote:
>
>
> Thinks I that William's nerve hath been found and touched....
Let's just say that I've heard most of the emotive garbage about Land
Rover destroying the planet and also the equally idiotic mantra that
cycling is good - I have utter disdain for extremists in either camp -
fortunately they tend to pass me by these days.
> In fairness, I'd like to see a network engineer load up his bicycle
> with his step-ladder, reels of cable, tools and the like and go off on
> a job.
I wonder what my customers would think if I turned up on a bicycle with
their new server in a back-pack.
> William doesn't drive the Land Rover for fashion (like a Chelsea
> tractor), rather it's an essential work horse for his occupation.
where exactly is your new hi-tech farmhouse sir? I'll pop over when I've
finished cabling this light-house.
hrmm - maybe a helicopter would be more appropriate.
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William Tasso
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| sir robert blake 2006-06-03, 7:13 pm |
| "William Tasso" <SpamBlocked@tbdata.com> wrote in
news:op.taflrqplm9g4qz-wnt@tbdata.com:
> Let's just say that I've heard most of the emotive garbage about Land
> Rover destroying the planet and also the equally idiotic mantra that
> cycling is good - I have utter disdain for extremists in either camp -
> fortunately they tend to pass me by these days.
they wouldn't pass you by, if you had a bigger engine
:)
<runs for the hills with Fluffy below my arm>
>
> I wonder what my customers would think if I turned up on a bicycle
> with their new server in a back-pack.
no-one can say for sure - this being a new niche in the market
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| William Tasso 2006-06-03, 7:13 pm |
| Fleeing from the madness of the EasyNews, UseNet made Easy! jungle
sir robert blake <4444D@yahoo.com> stumbled into news:alt.www.webmaster
and said:
> "William Tasso" <SpamBlocked@tbdata.com> wrote in
> news:op.taflrqplm9g4qz-wnt@tbdata.com:
>
>
> they wouldn't pass you by, if you had a bigger engine
>
> :)
>
> <runs for the hills with Fluffy below my arm>
heh - funnily enough .... I have a 4.6 V8 in need of a little fettling but
otherwise a plug in replacement for the 3.5 lump.
Karl - I would love to use a big iron yank but those blocks are so damn
heavy.
--
William Tasso
http://williamtasso.com/words/what-is-usenet.asp
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| William Tasso 2006-06-03, 7:13 pm |
| Fleeing from the madness of the EasyNews, UseNet made Easy! jungle
sir robert blake <4444D@yahoo.com> stumbled into news:alt.www.webmaster
and said:
> ...
> I just wish we would spend resources on finding clean energies that we
> could use in our vehicles.
Now you're talking. Where can I get me one of them V8 sized new clear re
actor jobbies?
The only safe fast breeder is a rabbit (sic)
--
William Tasso
http://williamtasso.com/words/what-is-usenet.asp
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| Isaac Hunt 2006-06-03, 7:13 pm |
| Hi
> yes, major manufacturing is a thing of the past.
Which is a shame. When I served my apprenticeship as a toolmaker the local
industrial estate was a major employer with a few thousand people working
in various industries. Now the same site is full of small units employing a
few people each, a supermarket, a McDonalds, a cinema and a bowling place
:-(
>
> Yes, wouldn't it be great to go back to the 70s or 80s era, where you coudl
> go onto the motorway and there was so little traffic.
I would be happy to go back to the days before speed cameras :-)
>
> The problem is that every driveway now has 2 or 3 cars in it.
Or in my case a car and a motorhome. I'm very environmentally friendly -
car does about 28mpg, motorhome about 18mpg!
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Isaac Hunt
Possibly the most handsome man here?
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| Charles Sweeney 2006-06-03, 7:13 pm |
| Matt Probert wrote
> On 30 May 2006 20:36:17 GMT, Charles Sweeney <me@charlessweeney.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> I used to. But the wife found out and threatened to cut it off......
Mr Probert, Good Sir, do you ever think of anything else?!
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http://CharlesSweeney.com
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| Charles Sweeney 2006-06-03, 7:13 pm |
| Isaac Hunt wrote
> It would give me more chance to use my 2.5l V6 engine :-)
Yes, the little engines can be fun. He said after a couple of months Range
Rover ownership!
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http://CharlesSweeney.com
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| Charles Sweeney 2006-06-03, 7:13 pm |
| William Tasso wrote
> Karl - I would love to use a big iron yank but those blocks are so
> damn heavy.
Aye, most of the power is used up pulling the weight!
--
Charles Sweeney
http://CharlesSweeney.com
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| William Tasso 2006-06-03, 7:13 pm |
| Fleeing from the madness of the No thank you jungle
Charles Sweeney <me@charlessweeney.com> stumbled into
news:alt.www.webmaster
and said:
> William Tasso wrote
>
>
> Aye, most of the power is used up pulling the weight!
exactly
elswhere you mentioned a Range Rover - is this a recent acquisition?
Plenty stuff on ebay for Range Rover owner/drivers :)
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William Tasso
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| Charles Sweeney 2006-06-03, 7:13 pm |
| William Tasso wrote
> Fleeing from the madness of the No thank you jungle
> Charles Sweeney <me@charlessweeney.com> stumbled into
> news:alt.www.webmaster
> and said:
>
>
> exactly
I'd still have a Jensen Interceptor though!
> elswhere you mentioned a Range Rover - is this a recent acquisition?
It was. Had it for a couple of months then sold it. I got stuck in the
snow in my van when skiing at Glenshee, so I decided to get a Rangey. I
loved it, but it was an automatic which wasn't my first choice. I had a
play in it, including giving her some welly in a field, and sold it.
I will probably get another before the winter, fantastic machines. I
prefer the two-door style, with a manual box and carbs. I like to have
things I can fix myself!
Here's a pic of the Rangey:
http://charlessweeney.com/images/P1260001.JPG
> Plenty stuff on ebay for Range Rover owner/drivers :)
Isn't there just!
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Charles Sweeney
http://CharlesSweeney.com
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| Dylan Parry 2006-06-03, 7:13 pm |
| sir robert blake wrote:
> Tho if we plebs get fitter, we live longer, and thus Bliar and his mates
> won't like that notion.
Why not? Raise the retirement age to pushing-up-the-daisies and all will
be just fine (with mandatory retirement for civil servants at 60, with
full last-earnings-related pension of course) <g>
--
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http://webpageworkshop.co.uk -- FREE Web tutorials and references
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| Isaac Hunt 2006-06-03, 7:13 pm |
| > Yes, the little engines can be fun. He said after a couple of months Range
> Rover ownership!
But filling my petrol tank is more fun than yours :-P
--
Isaac Hunt
Possibly the most handsome man here?
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| Charles Sweeney 2006-06-03, 7:13 pm |
| Dylan Parry wrote
> sir robert blake wrote:
>
>
> Why not? Raise the retirement age to pushing-up-the-daisies and all
> will be just fine (with mandatory retirement for civil servants at 60,
> with full last-earnings-related pension of course) <g>
A Glasgow Labour MP pointed out that statistically, his constituents are
dead at 68!
--
Charles Sweeney
http://CharlesSweeney.com
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| Charles Sweeney 2006-06-03, 7:13 pm |
| Isaac Hunt wrote
>
> But filling my petrol tank is more fun than yours :-P
I don't have it anymore. Until I get another, that is!
That's for sure, you don't buy them for their economy!
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Charles Sweeney
http://CharlesSweeney.com
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| Isaac Hunt 2006-06-03, 7:13 pm |
| Hi
> That's for sure, you don't buy them for their economy!
And I wouldn't buy a new one for it's looks either. The recent ones look
too 'tacky' for me. Can't beat the old shape like yours was. Who owns Land
Rover these days? I've lost track of who had what when they split.
--
Isaac Hunt
Possibly the most handsome man here?
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|
| On 30 May 2006 22:10:20 GMT, Charles Sweeney <me@charlessweeney.com>
scrawled:
> MGW wrote
>
>
> ROTFLMAO! Classic.
Always nice to have a rabbi with a sense of humor ;-)
--
MGW
Hofstadter's Law: It always takes longer than you expect, even
when you take into account Hofstadter's Law. - Douglas Hofstadter
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| Dylan Parry 2006-06-03, 7:14 pm |
| Charles Sweeney wrote:
[Retirement at Death]
> A Glasgow Labour MP pointed out that statistically, his constituents are
> dead at 68!
There you go then! The Master Plan has already begun ;)
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Dylan Parry
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| Isaac Hunt 2006-06-03, 7:14 pm |
| Hi
> Ford
Was there any need to use such language in a public newsgroup ;-)
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Isaac Hunt
Possibly the most handsome man here?
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| Charles Sweeney 2006-06-03, 7:14 pm |
| Dylan Parry wrote
> Charles Sweeney wrote:
>
> [Retirement at Death]
>
> There you go then! The Master Plan has already begun ;)
Tee hee! (Many a true word spoken in jest!)
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Charles Sweeney
http://CharlesSweeney.com
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| Charles Sweeney 2006-06-03, 7:14 pm |
| Isaac Hunt wrote
> Hi
>
>
> And I wouldn't buy a new one for it's looks either.
I wouldn't buy an old one for its looks!
Seriously, I much prefer the look of the old two-door. The four-door looks
to me like they squeezed the doors in there because they had too, which I
reckon is about right.
I don't like the spoiler they put on the front (it is removable for off-
roading) makes the car look too square, like a taxi.
For me, the two door, maybe lifted an inch or two, looks meaty!
--
Charles Sweeney
http://CharlesSweeney.com
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| Charles Sweeney 2006-06-03, 7:14 pm |
| MGW wrote
> On 30 May 2006 22:10:20 GMT, Charles Sweeney <me@charlessweeney.com>
> scrawled:
>
>
> Always nice to have a rabbi with a sense of humor ;-)
I don't know any Rabbis, but I've heard some on the radio, they usually
have a good sense of humour!
--
Charles Sweeney
http://CharlesSweeney.com
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| Sally Thompson 2006-06-03, 7:15 pm |
| On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 10:00:54 +0100, Charles Sweeney wrote
(in article <Xns97D565E168344mecharlessweeneycom@130.133.1.4> ):
> MGW wrote
>
>
> I don't know any Rabbis, but I've heard some on the radio, they usually
> have a good sense of humour!
Especially Rabbi Lionel Blue, who is one of my favourites.
--
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Burne-Jones/William Morris window in Shropshire church:
http://www.whitton-stmarys.org.uk
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| William Tasso 2006-06-03, 7:15 pm |
| Fleeing from the madness of the No thank you jungle
Charles Sweeney <me@charlessweeney.com> stumbled into
news:alt.www.webmaster
and said:
>
> For me, the two door, maybe lifted an inch or two, looks meaty!
off-roading we shall go
off-roading we shall go
eee-aye-ally-oh
off-roading we shall go
<g>
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William Tasso
http://williamtasso.com/words/what-is-usenet.asp
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| Charles Sweeney 2006-06-03, 7:15 pm |
| William Tasso wrote
> off-roading we shall go
> off-roading we shall go
> eee-aye-ally-oh
> off-roading we shall go
Just don't get stuck!
http://charlessweeney.com/images/range_rover_stuck.jpg
I got well and truly stuck. I had to call a commercial recovery service
to get me out, which they were very happy to do for £60 (and I was very
happy to pay)!
They used what can only be described as a monster tractor, and took all
of a minute to yank me out, no messing!
It was quite a soggy patch, but I made the fatal mistake of slowing down
(I didn't like the look of my exit terrain) and lost my momentum.
I should say, the Rangey was in standard form. I would hope that proper
off-road tyres would have made a difference.
The fresh tracks in the background are mine!
--
Charles Sweeney
http://CharlesSweeney.com
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| William Tasso 2006-06-03, 7:15 pm |
| Fleeing from the madness of the No thank you jungle
Charles Sweeney <me@charlessweeney.com> stumbled into
news:alt.www.webmaster
and said:
> William Tasso wrote
>
>
> Just don't get stuck!
>
> http://charlessweeney.com/images/range_rover_stuck.jpg
>
> I got well and truly stuck. I had to call a commercial recovery service
> to get me out, which they were very happy to do for £60 (and I was very
> happy to pay)!
heh - first rule of off-roading: never go alone
> They used what can only be described as a monster tractor, and took all
> of a minute to yank me out, no messing!
aye - that'd do it.
> It was quite a soggy patch, but I made the fatal mistake of slowing down
> (I didn't like the look of my exit terrain) and lost my momentum.
the Land Rover mantra: As slow as possible, as fast as necessary.
> I should say, the Rangey was in standard form. I would hope that proper
> off-road tyres would have made a difference.
A whole heap of things can help/hinder. Diff-locks on the front and rear
as well as in the transfer box are de-rigeur for serious mud-plugging I'd
suggest. Your Range Rover may have already had one or both of those as
standard.
> The fresh tracks in the background are mine!
<g>
--
William Tasso
110 V8
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| Charles Sweeney 2006-06-03, 7:15 pm |
| William Tasso wrote
> Fleeing from the madness of the No thank you jungle
> Charles Sweeney <me@charlessweeney.com> stumbled into
> news:alt.www.webmaster
> and said:
>
> the Land Rover mantra: As slow as possible, as fast as necessary.
I like that one!
>
> A whole heap of things can help/hinder. Diff-locks on the front and
> rear as well as in the transfer box are de-rigeur for serious
> mud-plugging I'd suggest. Your Range Rover may have already had one
> or both of those as standard.
It was an 89 Vogue SE automatic. The diff-lock was automatic. I'm not
entirely sure, but I think it is in the transfer box only. Another
reason why I prefer the older/manual ones, for the manual diff-lock too!
How would you test if the diff-lock was working properly, try to spin
the wheels? I suppose you could jack-up a wheel in turn, then see if it
turns?
--
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http://CharlesSweeney.com
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| William Tasso 2006-06-03, 7:15 pm |
| Fleeing from the madness of the No thank you jungle
Charles Sweeney <me@charlessweeney.com> stumbled into
news:alt.www.webmaster
and said:
> William Tasso wrote
>
>
> I like that one!
>
>
> It was an 89 Vogue SE automatic. The diff-lock was automatic. I'm not
> entirely sure, but I think it is in the transfer box only. Another
> reason why I prefer the older/manual ones, for the manual diff-lock too!
>
> How would you test if the diff-lock was working properly, try to spin
> the wheels? I suppose you could jack-up a wheel in turn, then see if it
> turns?
and get outta the way quick, just in case it is :)
A diff-lock in the transfer box means the vehicle will still apply power
to wheels on the axle which isn't spinning. So if you lose grip on one
(or both) of the front wheels, the rear wheels will still drive. If,
however you lose grip on both off-side (or both near-side) wheels then
you're as stuck as a sticky thing in a sticky place.
Hence the addition of aftermarket diff-locks on each axle (ISTR that rear
axle diff-locks are/were standard on some Range Rover models - HSE maybe)
- you can still get power down even if only one wheel has grip.
--
William Tasso
110 V8 <-- look what you done, I'm automagically using my L/R sig :)
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| Charles Sweeney 2006-06-03, 7:15 pm |
| William Tasso wrote
> A diff-lock in the transfer box means the vehicle will still apply
> power to wheels on the axle which isn't spinning. So if you lose
> grip on one (or both) of the front wheels, the rear wheels will still
> drive. If, however you lose grip on both off-side (or both
> near-side) wheels then you're as stuck as a sticky thing in a sticky
> place.
Yes, I figured that. When I got stuck, I was getting some spin, but
being on my own, I couldn't tell which wheel(s) were spinning at a
particular time.
> Hence the addition of aftermarket diff-locks on each axle (ISTR that
> rear axle diff-locks are/were standard on some Range Rover models -
> HSE maybe) - you can still get power down even if only one wheel has
> grip.
That's a bit like the limited-slip diff you get on sporty cars (Dolomite
Sprint comes to mind).
Saw a Rangey on ebay recently. They had welded the diffs, so they were
locked solid at all times. The chap said it was great off road, but
squealed a bit on tight corners on the road!
A cheap solution if the vehicle is solely for off-roading.
--
Charles Sweeney
http://CharlesSweeney.com
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| William Tasso 2006-06-03, 7:15 pm |
| Fleeing from the madness of the No thank you jungle
Charles Sweeney <me@charlessweeney.com> stumbled into
news:alt.www.webmaster
and said:
> ...
> When I got stuck, I was getting some spin, but
> being on my own, I couldn't tell which wheel(s) were spinning at a
> particular time.
No mud spray? :)
>
> Saw a Rangey on ebay recently. They had welded the diffs, so they were
> locked solid at all times. The chap said it was great off road, but
> squealed a bit on tight corners on the road!
>
> A cheap solution if the vehicle is solely for off-roading.
Not really useful unless /all/ the off-roading is over slippery terrain.
On solid stuff like rocks for example, or even concrete, the transmission
will eventually tear itself outta the chassis - that's the sqeualing :)
--
William Tasso
http://williamtasso.com/words/what-is-usenet.asp
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