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mio

2006-04-25, 7:05 pm

webdatacom.com - Web Hosting and Custom Internet Solutions

WebDataCom is privately owned and carries no debt.
This is important in today's market place, where hosting companies are
going out of business due to poor management and huge expenditures.

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William Tasso

2006-04-25, 7:05 pm

Fleeing from the madness of the http://groups.google.com jungle
mio <mio2005.u@XXXXXXXXXX> stumbled into news:alt.www.webmaster
and said:

> ...
> is privately owned and carries no debt.
> This is important in today's market place, where hosting companies are
> going out of business due to poor management and huge expenditures.

know any that would welcome the opportunity to walk away gracefully? too
many hang on to the bitter end.

I pay realistic prices for hosting operations of all sizes from reseller
accounts to small datacentres.

--
William Tasso

http://williamtasso.com/words/what-is-usenet.asp

Viper

2006-04-25, 7:05 pm

mio wrote:
> webdatacom.com - Web Hosting and Custom Internet Solutions
>
> WebDataCom is privately owned and carries no debt.
> This is important in today's market place, where hosting companies are
> going out of business due to poor management and huge expenditures.
>
I would rather use a host thats in debt than one that has to spam to get
customers.

SpaceGirl

2006-04-25, 7:06 pm

Viper wrote:
> mio wrote:
> I would rather use a host thats in debt than one that has to spam to get
> customers.

I wonder too, with no debt that would suggest no investors wanting
their money back - which means no "big money" pressure to do well in
business other than customers? Also a company that BOASTS it has no
debt?? *suspicious*

William Tasso

2006-04-25, 7:06 pm

Fleeing from the madness of the http://groups.google.com jungle
SpaceGirl <nothespacegirlspam@subhuman.net> stumbled into
news:alt.www.webmaster
and said:

>
> Viper wrote:
>
> I wonder too, with no debt that would suggest no investors wanting
> their money back - which means no "big money" pressure to do well in
> business other than customers? Also a company that BOASTS it has no
> debt?? *suspicious*

It was all the rage to make that boast in hosting circles a few years back.

--
William Tasso

http://williamtasso.com/words/what-is-usenet.asp

SmakDaddy

2006-04-25, 7:06 pm

"William Tasso" <SpamBlocked@tbdata.com> wrote in message
news:op.s8k4e1b8m9g4qz-wnt@tbdata.com...
> Fleeing from the madness of the http://groups.google.com jungle
> SpaceGirl <nothespacegirlspam@subhuman.net> stumbled into
> news:alt.www.webmaster
> and said:
>
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>
> It was all the rage to make that boast in hosting circles a few years
back.

Sure was.

Then people began to realize, if you're debt free, you just ain't doing it
right.

Ed Jay

2006-04-25, 10:59 pm

William Tasso scribed:

>Fleeing from the madness of the http://groups.google.com jungle
>SpaceGirl <nothespacegirlspam@subhuman.net> stumbled into
>news:alt.www.webmaster
>and said:
>

Investments aren't debts, unless there's a 'guaranteed' investment return,
such as interest. That's an unusual small-business-investment scenario.

A small business claiming no debt implies to me that the owners put their
own money where their hearts and minds were/are. If the initial capital
requirement was low, I'd expect the owners will have invested 100%. OTOH,
if the capital need was large enough that third-party [risk] investment
(i.e., non-debt) was necessary, I'd expect the owners to have a sizable
chunk of their own resources invested.

There's nothing wrong with debt on the books, in the proper proportion
with other important financial data. There's a lot of good to say about a
debt-free small business.
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I don't understand your statement, but I think I understand what you mean
by 'no big money pressure to do well.' In my thinking, third-party big
money (investors) pressure raises a red flag. They are notoriously driven
to badger management to improve profits, often to the expense of
consumers.

The owner of a successful small business with no debt or 'outside'
investors looks to his market for the revenue that translates to steaks
and fine wine. He is more focused on the market and marketability of
whatever he sells than is the individual who is motivated to increase
profits. Focusing on profit is focusing on costs. Focusing on revenue is
focusing on marketing is focusing on consumer demands.
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>
>It was all the rage to make that boast in hosting circles a few years back.

I think it's supposed to mean 'nobody can close us down because we don't
owe anybody anything.'
--
Ed Jay (remove 'M' to respond by email)

Kim André Akerø

2006-04-26, 6:51 am

Ed Jay wrote:

> William Tasso scribed:
>
> companies are >>> > going out of business due to poor management and
> huge expenditures. >>> >
> to get >>> customers.
>
> Investments aren't debts, unless there's a 'guaranteed' investment
> return, such as interest. That's an unusual small-business-investment
> scenario.
>
> A small business claiming no debt implies to me that the owners put
> their own money where their hearts and minds were/are. If the initial
> capital requirement was low, I'd expect the owners will have invested
> 100%. OTOH, if the capital need was large enough that third-party
> [risk] investment (i.e., non-debt) was necessary, I'd expect the
> owners to have a sizable chunk of their own resources invested.
>
> There's nothing wrong with debt on the books, in the proper proportion
> with other important financial data. There's a lot of good to say
> about a debt-free small business.
>
>
> I don't understand your statement, but I think I understand what you
> mean by 'no big money pressure to do well.' In my thinking,
> third-party big money (investors) pressure raises a red flag. They
> are notoriously driven to badger management to improve profits, often
> to the expense of consumers.
>
> The owner of a successful small business with no debt or 'outside'
> investors looks to his market for the revenue that translates to
> steaks and fine wine. He is more focused on the market and
> marketability of whatever he sells than is the individual who is
> motivated to increase profits. Focusing on profit is focusing on
> costs. Focusing on revenue is focusing on marketing is focusing on
> consumer demands.
>
>
> Why?
>
> I think it's supposed to mean 'nobody can close us down because we
> don't owe anybody anything.'

Of course, that is until customers flee away, and their datacenter
bills are starting to build up.

--
Kim André Akerø
- kimandre@NOSPAMbetadome.com
(remove NOSPAM to contact me directly)