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| Who Turned Off The Lights? 2006-02-24, 10:23 am |
| On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 08:16:03 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
> If not laughable, this is worrisome:
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/j3o3f
Oh great one! Impart upon us some wisdom and tell us what it all means?
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| Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote:
>If not laughable, this is worrisome:
>
>http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...?Sect1=PTO1&Sec ...
>t2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=7 ...
>,000,180.WKU.&OS=PN/7,000,180&RS=PN/7,000,180
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>OR
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>http://tinyurl.com/j3o3f
It is both laughable and worrisome. Can you imagine working in the
patent office these days? How are they ever going to hire anyone who
is capable of sufficient bullshit-filtering to keep from granting a
patent on something like methods for filling the lungs with a suitable
mixture of natural gasses? Some future history book will look back on
the 21st century as the time when mankind became so full of itself
that when it finally looked in the mirror it collapsed under the
weight of the laughter.
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| Roy Schestowitz 2006-02-24, 10:23 am |
| __/ [ Who Turned Off The Lights? ] on Thursday 23 February 2006 08:25 \__
> On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 08:16:03 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>
>
> Oh great one! Impart upon us some wisdom and tell us what it all means?
See the following:
http://www.aviransplace.com/index.p...atent-for-ajax/
<quote>
The patent?issued on Valentine?s Day?covers all rich-media technology
implementations, including Flash, Flex, Java, Ajax, and XAML, when the
rich-media application is accessed on any device over the Internet,
according to the patent holders.
A patent has been granted to a relatively unknown California Web-design firm
for an invention its creator says covers the design and creation of most
rich-media applications used over the Internet. The patent holder, Balthaser
Online Inc., says it could license nearly any rich-media Internet
application across a broad range of devices and networks.
</quote>
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| Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote:
>__/ [ Who Turned Off The Lights? ] on Thursday 23 February 2006 08:25 \__
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>
>See the following:
>
>http://www.aviransplace.com/index.p...atent-for-ajax/
>
><quote>
>The patent?issued on Valentine?s Day?covers all rich-media technology
>implementations, including Flash, Flex, Java, Ajax, and XAML, when the
>rich-media application is accessed on any device over the Internet,
>according to the patent holders.
>
>A patent has been granted to a relatively unknown California Web-design firm
>for an invention its creator says covers the design and creation of most
>rich-media applications used over the Internet. The patent holder, Balthaser
>Online Inc., says it could license nearly any rich-media Internet
>application across a broad range of devices and networks.
></quote>
Too damn bad for them that rich-media internet applications came along
before their silly-assed patent and they didn't invent squat any more
than Al Gore invented the internet, it'll be a hoot watching the
retarded legal system scratch its pointy little head before throwing
their first case out. If the legal system plays their game, I'll need
to patent the use of oxygen for combatting suffocation.
--
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| Roy Schestowitz 2006-02-24, 10:23 am |
| __/ [ hug ] on Thursday 23 February 2006 12:21 \__
> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote:
>
>
> It is both laughable and worrisome. Can you imagine working in the
> patent office these days? How are they ever going to hire anyone who
> is capable of sufficient bullshit-filtering to keep from granting a
> patent on something like methods for filling the lungs with a suitable
> mixture of natural gasses? Some future history book will look back on
> the 21st century as the time when mankind became so full of itself
> that when it finally looked in the mirror it collapsed under the
> weight of the laughter.
Well, at least here in Europe, legislators have retained their sanity
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/07/06/eu_bins_swpat/
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| Roy Schestowitz 2006-02-24, 10:23 am |
| __/ [ hug ] on Thursday 23 February 2006 14:45 \__
> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote:
>
>
> Too damn bad for them that rich-media internet applications came along
> before their silly-assed patent and they didn't invent squat any more
> than Al Gore invented the internet, it'll be a hoot watching the
> retarded legal system scratch its pointy little head before throwing
> their first case out. If the legal system plays their game, I'll need
> to patent the use of oxygen for combatting suffocation.
What do you mean??? Al Gore did not invent the Internet? But he said so. To
quote:
Gore: "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative
in creating the Internet." (CNN's 'Late Edition')
Source: http://www.sethf.com/gore/
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| Justin Koivisto 2006-02-24, 10:23 am |
| Roy Schestowitz wrote:
> __/ [ Who Turned Off The Lights? ] on Thursday 23 February 2006 08:25 \__
>
>
> See the following:
>
> http://www.aviransplace.com/index.p...atent-for-ajax/
>
> <quote>
> The patent?issued on Valentine?s Day?covers all rich-media technology
> implementations, including Flash, Flex, Java, Ajax, and XAML, when the
> rich-media application is accessed on any device over the Internet,
> according to the patent holders.
>
> A patent has been granted to a relatively unknown California Web-design firm
> for an invention its creator says covers the design and creation of most
> rich-media applications used over the Internet. The patent holder, Balthaser
> Online Inc., says it could license nearly any rich-media Internet
> application across a broad range of devices and networks.
> </quote>
There are a few submitted comments in that article that hint that the
article may have misinterpreted the actual patent. Also, that site has
posted incorrect articles before, so until I see a more authoritative
article, I'm not going to worry about it. ;)
--
Justin Koivisto, ZCE - justin@koivi.com
http://koivi.com
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| Who Turned Off The Lights? 2006-02-24, 10:23 am |
| On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 15:23:31 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
> __/ [ hug ] on Thursday 23 February 2006 14:45 \__
[...]
[...]
[color=darkred]
> What do you mean??? Al Gore did not invent the Internet? But he said so. To
> quote:
>
> Gore: "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative
> in creating the Internet." (CNN's 'Late Edition')
>
Huh? You mean I voted for the wrong guy? He was lying?? BUT He's a
politician!
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| Ed Jay 2006-02-24, 10:23 am |
| Roy Schestowitz scribed:
>What do you mean??? Al Gore did not invent the Internet? But he said so. To
>quote:
>
>Gore: "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative
>in creating the Internet." (CNN's 'Late Edition')
>
>Source: http://www.sethf.com/gore/
Claim: Vice-President Al Gore claimed that he "invented" the Internet.
Status: False.
Origins: Despite the derisive references that continue even today, Al
Gore did not claim he "invented" the Internet, nor did he say anything
that could reasonably be interpreted that way. The "Al Gore said he
'invented' the Internet" put-downs were misleading, out-of-context
distortions of something he said during an interview with Wolf Blitzer on
CNN's "Late Edition" program on 9 March 1999. When asked to describe what
distinguished him from his challenger for the Democratic presidential
nomination, Senator Bill Bradley of New Jersey, Gore replied (in part):
"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in
creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole
range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's
economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our
educational system."
Clearly, although Gore's phrasing was clumsy (and perhaps self-serving),
he was not claiming that he "invented" the Internet (in the sense of
having designed or implemented it), but that he was responsible, in an
economic and legislative sense, for fostering the development the
technology that we now know as the Internet. To claim that Gore was
seriously trying to take credit for the "invention" of the Internet is,
frankly, just silly political posturing that arose out of a close
presidential campaign. Gore never used the word "invent," and the words
"create" and "invent" have distinctly different meanings — the former is
used in the sense of "to bring about" or "to bring into existence" while
the latter is generally used to signify the first instance of someone's
thinking up or implementing an idea. (To those who say the words "create"
and "invent" mean exactly the same thing, we have to ask why, then, the
media overwhelmingly and consistently cited Gore as having claimed he
"invented" the Internet, even though he never used that word, and
transcripts of what he actually said were readily available.)
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| Who Turned Off The Lights? 2006-02-24, 10:23 am |
| On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 09:29:12 -0600, Justin Koivisto wrote:
> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>
> There are a few submitted comments in that article that hint that the
> article may have misinterpreted the actual patent. Also, that site has
> posted incorrect articles before, so until I see a more authoritative
> article, I'm not going to worry about it. ;)
A search on the company's name in Google News brings up a mere 3 articles.
So I wonder as well.
Yet, in one of the articles that came up is the following:
<quote>
"Neil Balthaser, a former VP of strategy for Macromedia, the developer of
the Flash rich-media development environment and player, now owned by
Adobe, says he will most likely sell the patent rather than enforce it
himself. He says he's discussing the sale of the patent to "top-tier
players. I don't want to name them but they're fairly obvious, the guys who
are investing a lot of money in this rich Internet applications field. They
got a lot invested, or they're going to be investing a lot. Anyone of those
companies would definitely benefit by controlling a patent like this, both
defensively and potentially offensively, and the ability to sublicense it,
and make some return on their investment." "
</quote>
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| Justin Koivisto wrote:
> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>
> There are a few submitted comments in that article that hint that the
> article may have misinterpreted the actual patent. Also, that site has
> posted incorrect articles before, so until I see a more authoritative
> article, I'm not going to worry about it. ;)
Then follow the source link at the bottom of the article and read the
source article on Information Week:
http://www.informationweek.com/stor...SSfeed_IWK_News
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| Roy Schestowitz 2006-02-24, 10:23 am |
| __/ [ Who Turned Off The Lights? ] on Thursday 23 February 2006 16:39 \__
> On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 15:23:31 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>
>
> [...]
>
>
> [...]
>
>
> Huh? You mean I voted for the wrong guy? He was lying?? BUT He's a
> politician!
Exactly! *smile*
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| Who Turned Off The Lights? wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 09:29:12 -0600, Justin Koivisto wrote:
>
> A search on the company's name in Google News brings up a mere 3 articles.
> So I wonder as well.
>
> Yet, in one of the articles that came up is the following:
> <quote>
> "Neil Balthaser, a former VP of strategy for Macromedia, the developer of
> the Flash rich-media development environment and player, now owned by
> Adobe, says he will most likely sell the patent rather than enforce it
> himself. He says he's discussing the sale of the patent to "top-tier
> players. I don't want to name them but they're fairly obvious, the guys who
> are investing a lot of money in this rich Internet applications field. They
> got a lot invested, or they're going to be investing a lot. Anyone of those
> companies would definitely benefit by controlling a patent like this, both
> defensively and potentially offensively, and the ability to sublicense it,
> and make some return on their investment." "
> </quote>
And that takes it from being funny to being scary - basically, then,
he's planning on selling it to a company that would have the legal
firepower to steamroller the little guys using the technology if they
don't pay up.
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| Borek 2006-02-24, 10:23 am |
| On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 15:45:53 +0100, hug <contact_info@sig_line.clickit>
wrote:
> Too damn bad for them that rich-media internet applications came along
> before their silly-assed patent and they didn't invent squat any more
> than Al Gore invented the internet, it'll be a hoot watching the
> retarded legal system scratch its pointy little head before throwing
> their first case out. If the legal system plays their game, I'll need
> to patent the use of oxygen for combatting suffocation.
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6368227.html
Best,
Borek
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| Who Turned Off The Lights? 2006-02-24, 10:23 am |
| On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:35:53 +0100, Borek wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 15:45:53 +0100, hug <contact_info@sig_line.clickit>
> wrote:
>
>
> http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6368227.html
>
ROFLMAO,
Now I can rest knowing that I've seen everything!
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| NotMe 2006-02-24, 10:23 am |
| "Roy Schestowitz" <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote in message
news:dtkk4d$2t3e$2@godfrey.mcc.ac.uk...
| __/ [ hug ] on Thursday 23 February 2006 14:45 \__
|
| > Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote:
| >
| >>__/ [ Who Turned Off The Lights? ] on Thursday 23 February 2006 08:25
\__
| >>
| >>> On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 08:16:03 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
| >>>
| >>>> If not laughable, this is worrisome:
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>> http://tinyurl.com/j3o3f
| >>>
| >>> Oh great one! Impart upon us some wisdom and tell us what it all
means?
| >>
| >>See the following:
| >>
|[color=darkred]
-for-ajax/
| >>
| >><quote>
| >>The patent?issued on Valentine?s Day?covers all rich-media technology
| >>implementations, including Flash, Flex, Java, Ajax, and XAML, when the
| >>rich-media application is accessed on any device over the Internet,
| >>according to the patent holders.
| >>
| >>A patent has been granted to a relatively unknown California Web-design
| >>firm for an invention its creator says covers the design and creation of
| >>most rich-media applications used over the Internet. The patent holder,
| >>Balthaser Online Inc., says it could license nearly any rich-media
Internet
| >>application across a broad range of devices and networks.
| >></quote>
| >
| > Too damn bad for them that rich-media internet applications came along
| > before their silly-assed patent and they didn't invent squat any more
| > than Al Gore invented the internet, it'll be a hoot watching the
| > retarded legal system scratch its pointy little head before throwing
| > their first case out. If the legal system plays their game, I'll need
| > to patent the use of oxygen for combatting suffocation.
|
|
| What do you mean??? Al Gore did not invent the Internet? But he said so.
To
| quote:
|
| Gore: "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the
initiative
| in creating the Internet." (CNN's 'Late Edition')
|
| Source: http://www.sethf.com/gore/
I think, if you dig deep enough you'll find that the imitative involved
setting up the enabling legislation for funding.
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| Who Turned Off The Lights? 2006-02-24, 10:23 am |
| On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:12:50 -0500, NotMe wrote:
> "Roy Schestowitz" <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote in message
>|
>| What do you mean??? Al Gore did not invent the Internet? But he said so.
> To
>| quote:
>|
>| Gore: "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the
> initiative
>| in creating the Internet." (CNN's 'Late Edition')
>|
>| Source: http://www.sethf.com/gore/
>
> I think, if you dig deep enough you'll find that the imitative involved
> setting up the enabling legislation for funding.
You mean as in here?:
http://www.democraticunderground.co...0_internet.html
but that other link Roy put up actually debunks that claim as well. I think
we were all having fun at his expense (Gore) which is so darn easy to do.
:-)
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| NotMe 2006-02-24, 10:23 am |
|
"Who Turned Off The Lights?"
| > I think, if you dig deep enough you'll find that the imitative involved
| > setting up the enabling legislation for funding.
|
| You mean as in here?:
| http://www.democraticunderground.co...0_internet.html
|
| but that other link Roy put up actually debunks that claim as well. I
think
| we were all having fun at his expense (Gore) which is so darn easy to do.
| :-)
I have NO problem with anyone having fun at a politicians expense (I'm often
of the opinion they enjoy the experience) but what does frost my fanny is
when THEY have fun at WeThePeople's expense.
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| "NotMe" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>I have NO problem with anyone having fun at a politicians expense (I'm often
>of the opinion they enjoy the experience)
Politicians and Actors share the motto "all press is good press".
> but what does frost my fanny is
>when THEY have fun at WeThePeople's expense.
Politicians are in business to stuff their wallets, and someone's
wallet has to open up for that to happen. <g>
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| GreyWyvern 2006-02-24, 6:15 pm |
| And lo, hug didst speak in alt.www.webmaster:
> Politicians and Actors share the motto "all press is good press".
You need to specify, however, that this motto does not refer to "good" as
in getting elected or selected for government positions or
roles-of-a-lifetime respectively. Rather it applies to how well one's
memoirs sell after retirement ;)
Grey
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| Who Turned Off The Lights? 2006-02-24, 6:15 pm |
| On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 10:47:32 -0500, GreyWyvern wrote:
> And lo, hug didst speak in alt.www.webmaster:
>
>
> You need to specify, however, that this motto does not refer to "good" as
> in getting elected or selected for government positions or
> roles-of-a-lifetime respectively. Rather it applies to how well one's
> memoirs sell after retirement ;)
hehe, right. Since this "I created the Internet" fiasco didn't help him at
all but quite the opposite. ;-)
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| Who Turned Off The Lights? wrote:
>
> You mean as in here?:
> http://www.democraticunderground.co...0_internet.html
>
> but that other link Roy put up actually debunks that claim as well. I think
> we were all having fun at his expense (Gore) which is so darn easy to do.
> :-)
It's in the same category as Dan Quayle "misspelling" potatoe - the
spelling with the 'e' on the end was a perfectly valid, although
outdated, spelling.
Gore is a politician. He misspoke. We laugh about it for years.
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| Who Turned Off The Lights? 2006-02-24, 6:15 pm |
| On 24 Feb 2006 09:40:27 -0800, Tony wrote:
> Who Turned Off The Lights? wrote:
>
> It's in the same category as Dan Quayle "misspelling" potatoe - the
> spelling with the 'e' on the end was a perfectly valid, although
> outdated, spelling.
>
> Gore is a politician. He misspoke. We laugh about it for years.
Oh, but Quayle was a whole 'nother thing. What with all the gaffes behind
his belt he'd have made a terrific sidekick to Bush (not the senior).
LOL "What a waste it is to lose one's mind" LOL
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| "Tony" <tony23@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>Who Turned Off The Lights? wrote:
>
>It's in the same category as Dan Quayle "misspelling" potatoe - the
>spelling with the 'e' on the end was a perfectly valid, although
>outdated, spelling.
>
>Gore is a politician. He misspoke. We laugh about it for years.
Remember when Bush said that every unborn feces has rights?
They all screw up one way or the other, and we remember it all unless
they're toasted from a book depository or grassy knoll, then we tend
to forget the occasional faux-pas and remember just the good stuff.
--
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| Ed Jay 2006-02-24, 10:19 pm |
| hug scribed:
>"Tony" <tony23@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>
>
>Remember when Bush said that every unborn feces has rights?
>
>They all screw up one way or the other, and we remember it all unless
>they're toasted from a book depository or grassy knoll, then we tend
>to forget the occasional faux-pas and remember just the good stuff.
If I had 5¢ for every one of Bush's misspeaks, I'd be wealthy. If I had a
dollar for every one of Gore's speaking errors I'd have a dollar.
--
Ed Jay (remove 'M' to respond by email)
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| Who Turned Off The Lights? 2006-02-24, 10:19 pm |
| On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 16:27:19 -0800, Ed Jay wrote:
> hug scribed:
[...]
[...]
[color=darkred]
> If I had 5¢ for every one of Bush's misspeaks, I'd be wealthy.
Bush does to the English Language what a 10 ton Mack Truck does to
roadkill!
Oh no......I can smell the audit already. :-(
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| Matt Silberstein 2006-02-27, 6:20 pm |
| On 24 Feb 2006 09:40:27 -0800, in alt.www.webmaster , "Tony"
<tony23@dslextreme.com> in
<1140802827.351931.38130@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> wrote:
>Who Turned Off The Lights? wrote:
>
>It's in the same category as Dan Quayle "misspelling" potatoe - the
>spelling with the 'e' on the end was a perfectly valid, although
>outdated, spelling.
An interesting notion
>Gore is a politician. He misspoke. We laugh about it for years.
Actually he did not misspeak so much as he was deliberately misquoted.
There was a case where was treated even worse. He was wildly quoted as
saying that he discovered Love Canal. I have the opportunity to hear
the whole story, including a tape of the incident. He was talking to a
school and was asked by a student what the student could do the make a
difference. Gore then told a story of a girl who lived in upstate New
York, that student wrote letters and set up a campaign to complain
about the pollution from Love Canal. Gore got one of the letters and
set up hearings. The whole point of the story was not that Gore had
done the work but that the student had made a difference. The misquote
deliberately twisted the meaning.
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