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GS

2006-11-05, 11:42 pm

Guys:

I have a question, Is it possible to implement pop-up window without
Java script, we don't want to use java script since it might get
blocked by pop-up blocker. Thanks in advance.

GS.

Paul Watt

2006-11-05, 11:42 pm


"GS" <globalswamy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Guys:
>
> I have a question, Is it possible to implement pop-up window without
> Java script, we don't want to use java script since it might get
> blocked by pop-up blocker. Thanks in advance.
>
> GS.
>

Stop wanting that.People have pop-up blockers for a reason.

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Matt Probert

2006-11-05, 11:42 pm

On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 17:59:59 +0100, "Paul Watt"
<paulio@wattio.NOSPAMfreeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>
>"GS" <globalswamy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1160668904.534028.220000@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>Stop wanting that.People have pop-up blockers for a reason.


And webmasters have pop-up windows for a a reason!

<g>

Matt


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Ed Jay

2006-11-05, 11:42 pm

Matt Probert scribed:

>On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 17:59:59 +0100, "Paul Watt"
><paulio@wattio.NOSPAMfreeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>And webmasters have pop-up windows for a a reason!
>
><g>
>

What is wrong with using popups as help explanations?
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Chaddy2222

2006-11-05, 11:42 pm


Matt Probert wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 17:59:59 +0100, "Paul Watt"
> <paulio@wattio.NOSPAMfreeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> And webmasters have pop-up windows for a a reason!
>
> <g>

Yeah, mainly to be anoying gits.
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wgalindo@gmail.com

2006-11-05, 11:42 pm

you can use css layers to make, show and hide false popups (looking
almos like the real ones....) I have seen the technique before but I
don't know any tutorial

good Luck

WG

GS wrote:
> Guys:
>
> I have a question, Is it possible to implement pop-up window without
> Java script, we don't want to use java script since it might get
> blocked by pop-up blocker. Thanks in advance.
>
> GS.


Ed Jay

2006-11-05, 11:42 pm

wgalindo@XXXXXXXXXX scribed:

>you can use css layers to make, show and hide false popups (looking
>almos like the real ones....) I have seen the technique before but I
>don't know any tutorial
>

You still need js to effect the change in z-index. I think.[color=darkred]
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Paul Watt

2006-11-05, 11:42 pm




"Matt Probert" <www@probertencyclopaedia.com> wrote in message
news:452e82c1.186284515@news.madasafish.com...
> On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 17:59:59 +0100, "Paul Watt"
> <paulio@wattio.NOSPAMfreeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> And webmasters have pop-up windows for a a reason!
>
> <g>
>


Who are we designing for in the end? <BG>

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Toby Inkster

2006-11-05, 11:42 pm

Ed Jay wrote:

> What is wrong with using popups as help explanations?


Add one or two lines of help explanations on the main page of the site --
no pop-up needed. If your form needs any more explanation than that,
redesign the form with a focus on usability.

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Paul B

2006-11-05, 11:42 pm

On 12 Oct 2006 09:01:44 -0700, "GS" <globalswamy@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Guys:
>
>I have a question, Is it possible to implement pop-up window without
>Java script, we don't want to use java script since it might get
>blocked by pop-up blocker. Thanks in advance.
>
>GS.


Hi
If you really have to go down that path, then there are some resources
here :
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...ss+popup+window

hth
plh
Paul

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Matt Probert

2006-11-05, 11:42 pm

On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 11:16:18 -0700, Ed Jay <edMbj@aes-intl.com> wrote:

>Matt Probert scribed:
>
>What is wrong with using popups as help explanations?


What is wrong with carrying advertising?

Matt


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Matt Probert

2006-11-05, 11:42 pm

On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 20:11:32 +0100, "Paul Watt"
<paulio@wattio.NOSPAMfreeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>
>
>
>"Matt Probert" <www@probertencyclopaedia.com> wrote in message
>news:452e82c1.186284515@news.madasafish.com...
>
>Who are we designing for in the end? <BG>
>


I'm not a designer, I'm a publisher, but within that caveat I'll still
respond....


The Bank Manager !

Matt


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Paul Watt

2006-11-05, 11:42 pm


"Matt Probert" <www@probertencyclopaedia.com> wrote in message
news:452f4c8b.237942328@news.madasafish.com...
> On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 20:11:32 +0100, "Paul Watt"
> <paulio@wattio.NOSPAMfreeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> I'm not a designer, I'm a publisher, but within that caveat I'll still
> respond....
>
>
> The Bank Manager !
>
> Matt
>
>


LOL

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Andy Dingley

2006-11-05, 11:42 pm


Matt Probert wrote:

> What is wrong with carrying advertising?


Viper'll whup your XXX and have you run off the intaweb.

johngohde@naturalhealthperspective.com

2006-11-05, 11:42 pm

Ed Jay wrote:
> Matt Probert scribed:
>
> What is wrong with using popups as help explanations?


Plenty!

They are not nearly as useful as a NORMAL web page.

Just my opinion, but I am always right ... especially about pop up
windows of any kind.

BBM

2006-11-05, 11:44 pm


johngohde@naturalhealthperspective.com wrote:
> Ed Jay wrote:
>
> Plenty!
>
> They are not nearly as useful as a NORMAL web page.
>
> Just my opinion, but I am always right ... especially about pop up
> windows of any kind.


Fair enough. What's wrong with a popup of a (long) list of
database-retrieved entries for the form, removing user spelling errors
when used, and activated only when the user wants it? =)

Chris F.A. Johnson

2006-11-05, 11:44 pm

On 2006-10-13, BBM wrote:
> johngohde@naturalhealthperspective.com wrote:
....[color=darkred]
>
> Fair enough. What's wrong with a popup of a (long) list of
> database-retrieved entries for the form, removing user spelling errors
> when used, and activated only when the user wants it? =)


Among other reasons, because it means that many people will not see
it. Why would you design a page that people will not see?

If a user wants a page opened in a new window, the user can do
that. There is no need for it to be done automatically.

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Ed Jay

2006-11-05, 11:44 pm

johngohde@naturalhealthperspective.com scribed:

>Ed Jay wrote:
>
>Plenty!
>
>They are not nearly as useful as a NORMAL web page.


I disagree. I have a problem with unwanted, i.e., unsolicited popups, and I
have them defeated by Opera. OTOH, I find one or two paragraph help
explanations in a popup launched at my option to be beneficial and welcome.

It's easy to launch a small window. It's easy to use js/CSS to hide or show
a container with the same information. The end result perceived by the
operator is the same, or isn't it?
>
>Just my opinion, but I am always right ... especially about pop up
>windows of any kind.


I don't dispute your opinion. I'm not speaking of 'pop up' windows. I'm
speaking of 'popup' windows. Small ones. ;-)
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Tuomas Rinta

2006-11-05, 11:44 pm

Ed Jay wrote:
> wgalindo@XXXXXXXXXX scribed:
> You still need js to effect the change in z-index. I think.


True, you need JS to hide/show "layers", but if you check, the original
poster asked this so the windows wouldn't be blocked by pop-up blockers.

Of course there are disadvantages (lot of 'em) when comparing pop-up
windows to hidden div's.

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