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SilverGuru versus FreeAdAGuru

silverguru@telkomsa.net

2005-09-26, 10:20 pm

SilverGuru versus FreeAdGuru
Sales training and marketing tips based on reality selling becomes
almost obsolete when you enter the world of online marketing and
selling. The average marketing person stands amazed at the millions of
advertisements, listings, promises of success and money.

This is something every online marketeer will experience. Be careful of
the undercurrents of being drawn in to such excitement, if you do not
keep your wits about you. I am not going to scare you away. but I do
want you to listen. This can prevent you losing a lot of money because
the REST of the package seem genuine.

After spending lots of time and money, seeing some results but not
having the time or patience that is needed to drive a proper marketing
project for business or product, one tends to turn to the one that
says: I am a millionaire and I will show you the shortcuts to get
there.

Very easy writing, very clever words, lots of things that make sense.
Nothing wrong with that.
I am even able to identify that it is similar to doing magic.

You visualize, you use tools, you get manifestation into reality.
Watching the results are really exciting, when you see that this
different strategy makes your hard work visible to the millions using
search engines.

Tempted further, you make use of the mass mailing program underwritten
by such an advertising guru. They too seem very genuine. Speaking of
legal opt in e-mails etc.

And you make the mistake to sit back and relax. And Believe. Nothing
wrong with that either, except never to let your guard down. You are
after all a "protege" of this big, sucessful man with his empire.

Let your alarmbells go off when the phone rings. You had to submit your
telephone information when you made the purchase for the book, or when
you subscribed to the program.

Listen, LISTEN when that call comes. At first your heart races, when
you are told that this is the time to act NOW. Not tomorrow, not
waiting for the hardcopy document. Careful, clever questions are asked
about your budget, how much money you would have available on your
cards, whether they via/mastercard.

You are smoothly being told that you will be assisted by a professional
to drive your business to ultimate sucess.Brilliant initial sales
pitch.

The executive will be insistant. Grab your creditcard and give out the
information over the phone! Along with the little 3 digit key at the
back. Yes, now over the phone! And to agree to give away thousands of
the big US dollar because unless you act NOW, this chance will be gone
forever!

DO NOT do that. Ever. This is when your alarmbells should be ringing so
loud, that you make an excuse. You play for time. You get a reprieve
for delay from the executive of this marketing giant.

This is the time surf the Web and use the right keywords. They are :
Scam + the Company name.

Dear marketeer, so eager and so keen, be prepared for the shock when
you see tens, even thousands of listings of people who have been
caught. Because nine out of ten times, THAT phone call IS a scam.

You can report it, you can mail the relevant company and ask for an
explanation. Chances are that you will get an automated reply telling
you that they will come back in 24 hours. Which they do not.

Suddenly all the companies that are so heavily promoted by the guru,
The mark Joyners, and Tom Kluckner, who stands pictured with this
saviour of online advertising and marketing , send out urgent emails
that they not in any way associated with this company.They agree that
you should NEVER give out this information on the phone!

Your emails from the mother company will remain unanswered. The phone
number will be different.

You came away from a huge scam. Scared out of your wits perhaps, but
almost
intact. Never, NEVER work with a company that calls and just ask for
your credit details over the phone. DO not think that just because the
owner shows off his new car, and pictures with his boat and throws
around huge names, that they are 100% geniune.

For if you do, you are easy prey to scam.

The emails to you will stop after your queries, no more advertising
emails sent to you. And no, even if you insist, you will not even get a
remote explanation of why they need to do this.

But they take your money. Month after month.

I have been a a sales and marketing manager for many years. I am not
blind to oppertunity and chances to grow. I am not averse to new
strategy. I give motivational talks into business people and it works.
The reason for this warning is clear. If they can ALMOST get me, would
they succeed in taking your money?

Listen to your instinct. ASK for more detail, whether by fax or email.
Request references.

Search the internet and check if maybe, just maybe this is a scam.

Just a word of warning. I have continued to mail. No response. This
morning they took money from my credit card ( I bought the book
remember) I warned you, FreeAdGuru. I am taking you on.

There was a reaction after publishing this article without the update.
Both Aweber and moneyhome hastened to cancel my debitorders, moneyhome
almost telling me in a knowbetter way, that ALL I had to do was send an
email to cancel my protege program. Hello! I have copies of all the
emails I sent!

Do not give up if you are caught in a scam. WRITE. Articles on the
internet will soon catch the eye of the people doing you in. Even a
thief hates bad publicity.

Jerry Stuckle

2005-09-26, 10:21 pm

silverguru@telkomsa.net wrote:
> SilverGuru versus FreeAdGuru

<SPAM snipped>

Hmmm... Spammer... Spammer... Not much difference.

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Red E. Kilowatt

2005-09-26, 10:21 pm

"Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote in message
news:16WdndBE8u6gC6XenZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@comcast.com
> silverguru@telkomsa.net wrote:
>
> <SPAM snipped>
>
> Hmmm... Spammer... Spammer... Not much difference.

I don't think the OP was selling anything. He is saying he got ripped
of by FreeAdGuru.

"I warned you, FreeAdGuru. I am taking you on."

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Jerry Stuckle

2005-09-27, 3:30 am

Red E. Kilowatt wrote:
> "Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:16WdndBE8u6gC6XenZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@comcast.com
>
>
>
> I don't think the OP was selling anything. He is saying he got ripped
> of by FreeAdGuru.
>
> "I warned you, FreeAdGuru. I am taking you on."
>

Sorry, I was talking about FreeAdGuru. They've been known to do a fair
amount of spamming.

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Jerry Stuckle

2005-09-27, 3:30 am

Red E. Kilowatt wrote:
> "Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:16WdndBE8u6gC6XenZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@comcast.com
>
>
>
> I don't think the OP was selling anything. He is saying he got ripped
> of by FreeAdGuru.
>
> "I warned you, FreeAdGuru. I am taking you on."
>

Oops... just re-read my first note. It should have said:

Hmmm... Spammer... Scammer... Not much difference
^

But that makes a LOT of difference!

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Red E. Kilowatt

2005-09-27, 7:14 pm

"Charles Sweeney" <me@charlessweeney.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96DE663CFEE5mecharlessweeneycom@130.133.1.4
> Red E. Kilowatt wrote
>
>
> Funny, I instantly thought it was spam. Then read a bit and realised
> that it wasn't. Still a little baffling without reading it all!

Yes, it sure looked like spam at first glance. Most people wouldn't have
bothered reading it all. What does that say about us? :-)
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John Redmond

2005-09-27, 7:14 pm

"Red E. Kilowatt" <kilowattREMOVE@aww-faq.org> wrote in news:68i_e.1750
$y43.228@tornado.socal.rr.com:

> "Charles Sweeney" <me@charlessweeney.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns96DE663CFEE5mecharlessweeneycom@130.133.1.4
>
> Yes, it sure looked like spam at first glance. Most people wouldn't have
> bothered reading it all. What does that say about us? :-)

I think it is spam. It was originally posted at
http://searchwarp.com/swa17188.htm on Sept. 14th. It is one of four
"articles" that SilverGuru has written for searchwarp. The articles link
to his online gambling site. Why the article is posted to aww is not clear.
Perhaps they new someone like me would track it back to the searchwarp and
the gambling site.

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Charles Sweeney

2005-09-27, 7:14 pm

Red E. Kilowatt wrote

> "Charles Sweeney" <me@charlessweeney.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns96DE663CFEE5mecharlessweeneycom@130.133.1.4
>
> Yes, it sure looked like spam at first glance. Most people wouldn't
have
> bothered reading it all. What does that say about us? :-)

Good point! I for one have learned (although I don't always practice
it) to look before I leap!

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Red E. Kilowatt

2005-09-28, 6:35 pm

"John Redmond" <jredmond@nospam.keystoneisit.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96DEAD37D6C4Abarking@199.45.49.11
> I think it is spam. It was originally posted at
> http://searchwarp.com/swa17188.htm on Sept. 14th. It is one of four
> "articles" that SilverGuru has written for searchwarp. The articles
> link to his online gambling site. Why the article is posted to aww is
> not clear. Perhaps they new someone like me would track it back to
> the searchwarp and the gambling site.

Wow, that's quite a stretch. Clearly, the OP has a beef against
FreeAdGuru and he's just trying to get the word out.
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Red