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pr

2005-09-26, 3:18 am

Newsgroups have been archived since 1995 by DejaNews, later
purchased by Google (2001?). They are have been the primary archivers
of newsgroups ever since. Upon the introduction of DejaNews, a lot
of people protested for privacy, and DejaNews introduced X-No-Archive
to sort of address those concerns. What they didn't address is that regardless
of X-No-Archive, archiving newsgroups (all groups) should be illegal by
concept. Privacy rights. A discussion forum is that, a discussion,
and archiving discussions annoys people. Maybe you are used to hear
that appologetic warning when phone companies warn that your call may
be monitored for quality assurrance reasons. People are offended by being
recorded, as that creates an Orwellian 1984 atmosphere. It violates
people's deepest human rights. Its privacy that is being violated, and Google
Groups Beta stands for something inhuman for discussion forums. These
disgusting telemarketing businesses should be, you know, something about,
like they are assholes.


pr

2005-09-26, 3:18 am

> Newsgroups have been archived since 1995 by DejaNews, later
> purchased by Google (2001?). They are have been the primary archivers
> of newsgroups ever since. Upon the introduction of DejaNews, a lot
> of people protested for privacy, and DejaNews introduced X-No-Archive
> to sort of address those concerns. What they didn't address is that regardless
> of X-No-Archive, archiving newsgroups (all groups) should be illegal by
> concept. Privacy rights. A discussion forum is that, a discussion,
> and archiving discussions annoys people. Maybe you are used to hear
> that appologetic warning when phone companies warn that your call may
> be monitored for quality assurrance reasons. People are offended by being
> recorded, as that creates an Orwellian 1984 atmosphere. It violates
> people's deepest human rights. Its privacy that is being violated, and Google
> Groups Beta stands for something inhuman for discussion forums. These
> disgusting telemarketing businesses should be, you know, something about,
> like they are assholes.


There are some positives about newsgroup archiving, seeking questions for
work related issues in newsgroup archives, or specific discussions. But
the idea is corrupt, as a discussion forum is conducted mostly by people
sitting privacy of their own homes, and being archived intrudes on such
people's privacy. If people discuss matters in newsgroup at work and they
are specialized discussions, there should be no problem in archiving those.
However, that is not the general case. People's privacy is being intruded on
with Google Groups Beta, and that violates human rights, and there should
be opposition by the intelligent people to not allow, ah, assholes, such, you
know, privacy violation of the first degree of the educated by the, you
know, evil marketers.


pr

2005-09-26, 3:18 am

> > Newsgroups have been archived since 1995 by DejaNews, later
>
> There are some positives about newsgroup archiving, seeking questions for
> work related issues in newsgroup archives, or specific discussions. But
> the idea is corrupt, as a discussion forum is conducted mostly by people
> sitting in their privacy of their own homes, and being archived intrudes on
> such people's privacy. If people discuss matters in newsgroup at work and
> they are specialized discussions, there should be no problem in archiving those.
> However, that is not the general case. People's privacy is being intruded on
> with Google Groups Beta, and that violates human rights, and there should
> be opposition by the intelligent people to not allow, ah, assholes, such, you
> know, privacy violation of the first degree of the educated by the, you
> know, evil marketers.


We all know evil marketers and spammers. We hate them. They are like
Russians, because they are poor people, and they have to do such dirty business.


pr

2005-09-26, 3:19 am

> > > Newsgroups have been archived since 1995 by DejaNews, later
>
> We all know evil marketers and spammers. We hate them. They are like
> Russians, because they are poor people, and they have to do such dirty business.


There are books about Google, but nobody writes about their horrible Groups
marketing scam. Like a dark evil castle, it infringes privacy, betrays humanity
with its money first approach (though Google's search engine is described as
technology first compared to people driven Yahoo), topics ignores Google
Group Beta's humanly guilty Ceaucescu's street cameras over people with
its ignorant colossal financial technology, a common realization: a monster.
s


Kim André Akerø

2005-09-26, 3:19 am

pr wrote:

> Newsgroups have been archived since 1995 by DejaNews, later
> purchased by Google (2001?).


Correct, they were acquired by Google in February 2001.

> They are have been the primary archivers
> of newsgroups ever since. Upon the introduction of DejaNews, a lot
> of people protested for privacy, and DejaNews introduced X-No-Archive
> to sort of address those concerns. What they didn't address is that
> regardless of X-No-Archive, archiving newsgroups (all groups) should
> be illegal by concept. Privacy rights.


Consider a newsgroup post an opinion article in a newspaper. What are
you going to do then? Ask everybody who purchases a newspaper not to
archive the newspaper or perhaps even rip out the opinion pages in that
newspaper before archiving it? Heck, I could even set up an Usenet
server at home for myself and archive everything posted on the Usenet.

Thing is, what's posted on Usenet, stays on Usenet. If you don't want
an article you wrote stored for all eternity, then don't write it at
all.

> A discussion forum is that, a
> discussion, and archiving discussions annoys people. Maybe you are
> used to hear that appologetic warning when phone companies warn that
> your call may be monitored for quality assurrance reasons. People are
> offended by being recorded, as that creates an Orwellian 1984
> atmosphere. It violates people's deepest human rights.


What about phone books, then? Don't they also violate your privacy
rights? Phone books include your home address and phone number, and
anyone with access to a phone book will have access to your home
address.

If you're worried about your privacy, then don't post on Usenet (or use
the Internet at all, for that matter), don't have a phone, don't have a
job, don't have a physical address, which narrows it down to living in
a cave out in a desert somewhere. Or a jungle.

> Its privacy
> that is being violated, and Google Groups Beta stands for something
> inhuman for discussion forums. These disgusting telemarketing
> businesses should be, you know, something about, like they are
> assholes.


Once again, that's one of the unwritten rules when using Usenet. What
you post, may or may not be stored for all eternity. The consensus is
that the X-No-Archive function for those who only want their posts
stored for a short amount of time.

And please refrain from complaining about this on Usenet. If you're
really that concerned about your own privacy, talk to a lawyer about
forcing Google Groups into removing your posts. Seriously, we don't
want to hear about it.

--
Kim André Akerø
- kimandre@NOSPAMbetadome.com
(remove NOSPAM to contact me directly)
pr

2005-09-26, 3:19 am

> > > > Newsgroups have been archived since 1995 by DejaNews, later
>
> There are books about Google, but nobody writes about their horrible Groups
> marketing scam. Like a dark evil castle, it infringes privacy, betrays humanity
> with its money first approach (though Google's search engine is described as
> technology first compared to people driven Yahoo), topics ignores Google
> Group Beta's humanly guilty Ceaucescu's street cameras over people with
> its ignorant colossal financial technology, a common realization: a monster.


It infringes into our daily lives like Lida Hill (daughter of the Hunt ketchup family)
on Garden of the Gods National Park in colorado Springs. A public national park,
and she moved in. First she build a house, seeing the park from its first row seat.
Then she built a country club next to her home. Then she decided to establish
a "unique public/private relation", taking over running the entire national park herself.
She threw out the government business and built a manhattan tourist center, destroying
a large area of the natural park territory with colossal parking lots. Millions visit
this park each year, there was a lot of money to make on a public property (like
Newsgroups). She moved in, and at night from her backyard she reflects with a
large soccer stadium lamp on one of the highlights of the national park for her romantic
nights. When she moves in, she moves in, and nobody can stop the Repub. During
her overtaking, she cut out a unique thousand year old tree at night so the protesters
wouldn't stop her. When the Repubs are coming, they are coming and they are
Google, establishing unique public/private relations over public properties. Ceaucescu
modeled his dictatorial visions for his country at the time after the USA, destroying
thousand year old cultures, just to dig up villages for a modern industrial landscape.

Google Groups Beta is Crimes Against Humanity.


David Dyer-Bennet

2005-09-26, 3:19 am

"pr" <pr@pr.com> writes:

> Newsgroups have been archived since 1995 by DejaNews, later
> purchased by Google (2001?). They are have been the primary
> archivers of newsgroups ever since. Upon the introduction of
> DejaNews, a lot of people protested for privacy, and DejaNews
> introduced X-No-Archive to sort of address those concerns. What they
> didn't address is that regardless of X-No-Archive, archiving
> newsgroups (all groups) should be illegal by concept. Privacy
> rights. A discussion forum is that, a discussion, and archiving
> discussions annoys people. Maybe you are used to hear that
> appologetic warning when phone companies warn that your call may be
> monitored for quality assurrance reasons. People are offended by
> being recorded, as that creates an Orwellian 1984 atmosphere. It
> violates people's deepest human rights. Its privacy that is being
> violated, and Google Groups Beta stands for something inhuman for
> discussion forums. These disgusting telemarketing businesses should
> be, you know, something about, like they are assholes.


It's not phone companies who monitor those calls; that's a notice from
the company you are calling that they will monitor their employees
(order taking or tech support most commonly).

I'm very, very happy that Deja News started archiving newsgroups, and
very glad that Google continues to do so. I wish the archives
extended back to the beginning, and was more complete for the early
years. Any individual has an equal right to keep copies of the
postings as they go by, but I didn't have a full newsfeed and enough
storage space, and didn't get organized to archive the groups I was
interested in, back then. I'm very glad somebody did it for me.

The legalities are a much stickier question. The argument *for*
Google is that anything submitted to Usenet was clearly intended to be
propagated to all sites, and nobody ever had any kind of guarantee on
what the expire time on those sites would be. The postings would be
available from a news server until they expired there. Google is
essentially running a news server with an infinite expire time.
Whether that's *legally* good enough -- hasn't been tested yet; which
is an answer in and of itself, to some extent.
--
David Dyer-Bennet, <mailto:dd-b@dd-b.net>, <http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/>
RKBA: <http://noguns-nomoney.com/> <http://www.dd-b.net/carry/>
Pics: <http://dd-b.lighthunters.net/> <http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/>
Dragaera/Steven Brust: <http://dragaera.info/>
Blinky the Shark

2005-09-26, 6:17 am

Kim André Akerø wrote:
> pr wrote:
>
>
> Correct, they were acquired by Google in February 2001.


It's the Google Crank, again. Killfile readjustment time!


--
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Killing All Posts from GG: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.htm
Els

2005-09-26, 6:17 am

Blinky the Shark wrote:

> It's the Google Crank, again. Killfile readjustment time!


It was still in my killfile. His IP changes much less than his handle.

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Blinky the Shark

2005-09-26, 6:49 pm

Els wrote:
> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>
>
> It was still in my killfile. His IP changes much less than his handle.


The server's XOVER database does not include fields that contain IP:

<paste XOVER exchange from telnet session with server>

xover 359048
224 359048 fields follow
359048 Tired of Google Groups archiving "pr" <pr@pr.com>
Sun, 25 Sep 2005 20:26:20 -0600 <d%IZe.67$5u3.1344@news.uswest.net>
1732 17 Xref: uni-berlin.de alt.www.webmaster:359048

</paste>

Thus, to filter on a header that includes his IP requires use of XHDR
command:

<paste XHDR exchange from telnet session with server>

xhdr NNTP-Posting-Host <d%IZe.67$5u3.1344@news.uswest.net>
221 0 NNTP-Posting-Host header of article <d%IZe.67$5u3.1344@news.uswest.net>.
<d%IZe.67$5u3.1344@news.uswest.net> 151.118.0.21

</paste>

And this is "expensive" filtering, because it requires a separate
request for XHDR headers. On a dialup, that's very time consuming and
not acceptable. So that's not an option for some of us.


--
Blinky Linux Registered User 297263
Killing All Posts from GG: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html
John Bokma

2005-09-26, 6:49 pm

"pr" <pr@pr.com> wrote:

> Newsgroups have been archived since 1995 by DejaNews, later
> purchased by Google (2001?). They are have been the primary archivers
> of newsgroups ever since. Upon the introduction of DejaNews, a lot
> of people protested for privacy, and DejaNews introduced X-No-Archive


Are you sure about DejaNews introducing it?

Also, groups have been archived for way longer then DejaNews existed.

> to sort of address those concerns. What they didn't address is that
> regardless of X-No-Archive, archiving newsgroups (all groups) should
> be illegal by concept. Privacy rights. A discussion forum is that, a
> discussion, and archiving discussions annoys people. Maybe you are
> used to hear that appologetic warning when phone companies warn that
> your call may be monitored for quality assurrance reasons. People are
> offended by being recorded, as that creates an Orwellian 1984
> atmosphere. It violates people's deepest human rights. Its privacy
> that is being violated, and Google Groups Beta stands for something
> inhuman for discussion forums. These disgusting telemarketing
> businesses should be, you know, something about, like they are
> assholes.


If you send a letter to a news paper, they can publish it.

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pr

2005-09-26, 6:49 pm

> "pr" <pr@pr.com> writes:
>
>
> It's not phone companies who monitor those calls; that's a notice from
> the company you are calling that they will monitor their employees
> (order taking or tech support most commonly).
>
> I'm very, very happy that Deja News started archiving newsgroups, and
> very glad that Google continues to do so. I wish the archives
> extended back to the beginning, and was more complete for the early
> years. Any individual has an equal right to keep copies of the
> postings as they go by, but I didn't have a full newsfeed and enough
> storage space, and didn't get organized to archive the groups I was
> interested in, back then. I'm very glad somebody did it for me.


I once found a way to listen into cell phone conversations. I found a
radio band, and listened the phone company using that band for cell
phones, call after call. I was young, and sat and listened to people
talking. I wish they recorded all telephone calls.

>
> The legalities are a much stickier question. The argument *for*
> Google is that anything submitted to Usenet was clearly intended to be
> propagated to all sites, and nobody ever had any kind of guarantee on
> what the expire time on those sites would be. The postings would be
> available from a news server until they expired there. Google is
> essentially running a news server with an infinite expire time.
> Whether that's *legally* good enough -- hasn't been tested yet; which
> is an answer in and of itself, to some extent.


Its illegal, as illegal as Ceaucescu's street cameras. Most discussions are
made from the comfort of one's home.

> --
> David Dyer-Bennet, <mailto:dd-b@dd-b.net>, <http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/>
> RKBA: <http://noguns-nomoney.com/> <http://www.dd-b.net/carry/>
> Pics: <http://dd-b.lighthunters.net/> <http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/>
> Dragaera/Steven Brust: <http://dragaera.info/>



Els

2005-09-26, 6:49 pm

Blinky the Shark wrote:

> Els wrote:
>
> The server's XOVER database does not include fields that contain IP:
>
> <paste XOVER exchange from telnet session with server>
>
> xover 359048
> 224 359048 fields follow
> 359048 Tired of Google Groups archiving "pr" <pr@pr.com>
> Sun, 25 Sep 2005 20:26:20 -0600 <d%IZe.67$5u3.1344@news.uswest.net>
> 1732 17 Xref: uni-berlin.de alt.www.webmaster:359048
>
> </paste>
>
> Thus, to filter on a header that includes his IP requires use of XHDR
> command:
>
> <paste XHDR exchange from telnet session with server>
>
> xhdr NNTP-Posting-Host <d%IZe.67$5u3.1344@news.uswest.net>
> 221 0 NNTP-Posting-Host header of article <d%IZe.67$5u3.1344@news.uswest.net>.
> <d%IZe.67$5u3.1344@news.uswest.net> 151.118.0.21
>
> </paste>
>
> And this is "expensive" filtering, because it requires a separate
> request for XHDR headers. On a dialup, that's very time consuming and
> not acceptable. So that's not an option for some of us.


Okay.
I have no idea about telnetting with a newsserver (my telnet
experience doesn't go further than changing a setting in my router).
My filter gui in Dialog lets me filter on anything that's in the
headers. I'm guessing "xhdr" is included in what I call "the headers"?

--
Els http://locusmeus.com/
Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito.
- Renato Russo -
Now playing: The Kinks - All Day And All Of The Night
John Bokma

2005-09-26, 6:49 pm

Els <els.aNOSPAM@tiscali.nl> wrote:

[ News ]

> I have no idea about telnetting with a newsserver (my telnet
> experience doesn't go further than changing a setting in my router).


Usenet works similar :-) Like http, etc.

> My filter gui in Dialog lets me filter on anything that's in the
> headers. I'm guessing "xhdr" is included in what I call "the headers"?


No, it's a command that Dialog sends to your server to get info.

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Charles Sweeney

2005-09-26, 6:49 pm

pr wrote

> Newsgroups have been archived since 1995 by DejaNews, later
> purchased by Google (2001?). They are have been the primary archivers
> of newsgroups ever since. Upon the introduction of DejaNews, a lot
> of people protested for privacy, and DejaNews introduced X-No-Archive
> to sort of address those concerns. What they didn't address is that
> regardless of X-No-Archive, archiving newsgroups (all groups) should
> be illegal by concept. Privacy rights. A discussion forum is that, a
> discussion, and archiving discussions annoys people. Maybe you are
> used to hear that appologetic warning when phone companies warn that
> your call may be monitored for quality assurrance reasons. People are
> offended by being recorded, as that creates an Orwellian 1984
> atmosphere. It violates people's deepest human rights. Its privacy
> that is being violated, and Google Groups Beta stands for something
> inhuman for discussion forums. These disgusting telemarketing
> businesses should be, you know, something about, like they are
> assholes.


That's got to be the biggest load of crap I have read in quite some
time.

If you don't want it archived, don't post it publicly

--
Charles Sweeney
http://CharlesSweeney.com
pr

2005-09-26, 6:50 pm

> pr wrote
>
>
> That's got to be the biggest load of crap I have read in quite some
> time.


That's not the biggest load of crap.

"The legalities are a much stickier question. The argument *for*
Google is that anything submitted to Usenet was clearly intended to be
propagated to all sites, and nobody ever had any kind of guarantee on
what the expire time on those sites would be. The postings would be
available from a news server until they expired there. Google is
essentially running a news server with an infinite expire time.
Whether that's *legally* good enough -- hasn't been tested yet; which
is an answer in and of itself, to some extent."

Its illegal, as illegal as Ceaucescu's street cameras. Most discussions are
made from the comfort of one's home.

Most powerful statement: WE ARE THE HUMAN KIND (robot voice). NO MORE.
NO MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEE.
READ OURARARARRRRR...

There is one, more powerful statement, it comes from bat people running around, and flying,
and sissing for blood, with bat teeth, sissing alsmost silently to give goosebumps: Reeeed our teeeeet.
bat people bat people bat people, hiding their faces, looking, shyly. Like little kids.
Careful, he can bite. The bat man can bite, and turn you into a vampir. And there's not gonna
be a "if you don't like it in Transilvania, why don't you just leave". You will turn into a beast,
once and for all, unable to tolerate the sunlight. Sleeping during the day. And when you meet
a woman you will say: sleeeeeeeeeeep, and she falls on her bed. And you rub your palms, and
your teeeeeeet grow. (sucking)

We. Are human beings. We paying taxes. We'd rather give it to our sect but not to our
relatives. We need agreee, we need a love of the night, we need use head for tax. We know
what you want, as we want the same, we are HUMAN BEINGS! We cannot promise
less taxes, historically they have grown from 2 percent 60 years ago to 40 percent, without
count. With Count, we will get human taxes, and love for the night. Vote for count, we
will fly in the night of the love, for free. You don't believe me? Sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep.
Sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep, my children. (Sissing)................
When I say no more taxes, I say no more, my children of the night.

Republicans: Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! (they drop to sleep)

Drakula: Our new world has arrived my dear society. (covering face)

Drakula quickly uncovers face and sisses.

Democrats: Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! (they drop to sleep)

Drakula: The moon party promises no more taxes, taxes are only paid with blood. Can't raise it
any more, can we?... (clap) Sleeeeeeeeeeeeeep. No more Google Groups Archiving... (clap)
Sissssss. No more Google Groups Archiving. Ssisssssssssss my ones. Ssissssssssssssssssssssssssss.

Loud whispers: HHhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! HHhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! HHhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

Reeeeeed my teeeeet (they grew longer than ever).


pr

2005-09-26, 6:50 pm

> > > Newsgroups have been archived since 1995 by DejaNews, later
>
> That's not the biggest load of crap.
>
> "The legalities are a much stickier question. The argument *for*
> Google is that anything submitted to Usenet was clearly intended to be
> propagated to all sites, and nobody ever had any kind of guarantee on
> what the expire time on those sites would be. The postings would be
> available from a news server until they expired there. Google is
> essentially running a news server with an infinite expire time.
> Whether that's *legally* good enough -- hasn't been tested yet; which
> is an answer in and of itself, to some extent."
>
> Its illegal, as illegal as Ceaucescu's street cameras. Most discussions are
> made from the comfort of one's home.
>
> Most powerful statement: WE ARE THE HUMAN KIND (robot voice). NO MORE.
> NO MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEE.
> READ OURARARARRRRR...
>
> There is one, more powerful statement, it comes from bat people running around, and flying,
> and sissing for blood, with bat teeth, sissing alsmost silently to give goosebumps: Reeeed our teeeeet.
> bat people bat people bat people, hiding their faces, looking, shyly. Like little kids.
> Careful, he can bite. The bat man can bite, and turn you into a vampir. And there's not gonna
> be a "if you don't like it in Transilvania, why don't you just leave". You will turn into a beast,
> once and for all, unable to tolerate the sunlight. Sleeping during the day. And when you meet
> a woman you will say: sleeeeeeeeeeep, and she falls on her bed. And you rub your palms, and
> your teeeeeeet grow. (sucking)
>
> We. Are human beings. We paying taxes. We'd rather give it to our sect but not to our
> relatives. We need agreee, we need a love of the night, we need use head for tax. We know
> what you want, as we want the same, we are HUMAN BEINGS! We cannot promise
> less taxes, historically they have grown from 2 percent 60 years ago to 40 percent, without
> count. With Count, we will get human taxes, and love for the night. Vote for count, we
> will fly in the night of the love, for free. You don't believe me? Sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep.
> Sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep, my children. (Sissing)................
> When I say no more taxes, I say no more, my children of the night.
>
> Republicans: Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! (they drop to sleep)
>
> Drakula: Our new world has arrived my dear society. (covering face)
>
> Drakula quickly uncovers face and sisses.
>
> Democrats: Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! (they drop to sleep)
>
> Drakula: The moon party promises no more taxes, taxes are only paid with blood. Can't raise it
> any more, can we?... (clap) Sleeeeeeeeeeeeeep. No more Google Groups Archiving... (clap)
> Sissssss. No more Google Groups Archiving. Ssisssssssssss my ones. Ssissssssssssssssssssssssssss.
>
> Loud whispers: HHhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! HHhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! HHhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
>
> Reeeeeed my teeeeet (they grew longer than ever).


Its the smallest load of crap.


David Dyer-Bennet

2005-09-26, 6:50 pm

Els <els.aNOSPAM@tiscali.nl> writes:

> Blinky the Shark wrote:


>
> Okay.
> I have no idea about telnetting with a newsserver (my telnet
> experience doesn't go further than changing a setting in my router).
> My filter gui in Dialog lets me filter on anything that's in the
> headers. I'm guessing "xhdr" is included in what I call "the headers"?


It's expensive when it's hidden inside the news-server, too. When I
had that kind of expensive filters on some big groups, they took
minutes rather than seconds to open up.
--
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RKBA: <http://noguns-nomoney.com/> <http://www.dd-b.net/carry/>
Pics: <http://dd-b.lighthunters.net/> <http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/>
Dragaera/Steven Brust: <http://dragaera.info/>
pr

2005-09-26, 6:50 pm

> > > > Newsgroups have been archived since 1995 by DejaNews, later
>
> Its the smallest load of crap.


There should be taxbreak for giving money directly to a relative in need. An old grandmother.
A brother who is out of work. They can't allow it, because that opens the door for tax fraud,
and the poor pays for the governments' subbornness, counting every penny for themselves.
Open the door for a less greedy way of living. See if I give money to my brother, and claim
it on taxes because he was out of work, while he really borrowed that money and pays it back
after he makes that money, then I cheated on taxes. But if he was really in need of that money,
and I gave to him, then neither he nor I should pay taxes for that money, because it was for
a good cause. Bush is trying to give the religions tax breaks for charity work. I say give
tax breaks for the needy and not for the rich and the religious. But they prefer the other way,
and archiving people with all their activities to build a powerful society of just power. They
don't understand normal. They are religious assholes. Arrogant selfishness is not cool.
money,


pr

2005-09-26, 6:51 pm

> > > > > Newsgroups have been archived since 1995 by DejaNews, later
>
> There should be taxbreak for giving money directly to a relative in need. An old grandmother.
> A brother who is out of work. They can't allow it, because that opens the door for tax fraud,
> and the poor pays for the governments' subbornness, counting every penny for themselves.
> Open the door for a less greedy way of living. See if I give money to my brother, and claim
> it on taxes because he was out of work, while he really borrowed that money and pays it back
> after he makes that money, then I cheated on taxes. But if he was really in need of that money,
> and I gave to him, then neither he nor I should pay taxes for that money, because it was for
> a good cause. Bush is trying to give the religions tax breaks for charity work. I say give
> tax breaks for the needy and not for the rich and the religious. But they prefer the other way,
> and archiving people with all their activities to build a powerful society of just power. They
> don't understand normal. They are religious assholes. Arrogant selfishness is not cool.
> money,


It was very very painful to realize that I was right, and people suffered me out of their own
ignorance and continue to do so for the money.


pr

2005-09-26, 6:51 pm

> > > > > > Newsgroups have been archived since 1995 by DejaNews, later
>
> It was very very painful to realize that I was right, and people suffered me out of their own
> ignorance and continue to do so for the money.


And continue to do so for their religion.


pr

2005-09-26, 6:51 pm

> > > > > > > Newsgroups have been archived since 1995 by DejaNews, later
>
> And continue to do so for their religion.


How could I have been so stupid, being intelligent, to believe others. And yet, I a troll,
a qoo qoo, kicked at, molested. Because I have eyes. Blue. Hair, brown, curly, not bald.
Teeth, nice. Skin, healthy. Nails, well shaped. Lips, thick. Body, could be very sporty, and
elegant. Face, handsome. Hands, attracting the artist. And listen to them.


pr

2005-09-26, 6:51 pm

> > > > > > > > Newsgroups have been archived since 1995 by DejaNews, later
>
> How could I have been so stupid, being intelligent, to believe others. And yet, I a troll,
> a qoo qoo, kicked at, molested. Because I have eyes. Blue. Hair, brown, curly, not bald.
> Teeth, nice. Skin, healthy. Nails, well shaped. Lips, thick. Body, could be very sporty, and
> elegant. Face, handsome. Hands, attracting the artist. And listen to them.


KILLFILES!


pr

2005-09-26, 6:51 pm

> > > > > > > > > Newsgroups have been archived since 1995 by DejaNews, later
>
> KILLFILES!


Its like back in the past. BURN THE WITCHES! They don't see me online.


Blinky the Shark

2005-09-26, 6:51 pm

Els wrote:
> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>
>
> Okay.
> I have no idea about telnetting with a newsserver (my telnet
> experience doesn't go further than changing a setting in my router).
> My filter gui in Dialog lets me filter on anything that's in the
> headers. I'm guessing "xhdr" is included in what I call "the headers"?


No, it's a command issued by the client (your news reader or, if you're
rolling your own session, you at the telnet client). The server returns
what's in the overview file, and that's all that's available for efficient
filtering. And as my example showed, above, IP isn't available there.


--
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Killing All Posts from GG: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html
pr

2005-09-26, 6:51 pm

> > > And this is "expensive" filtering, because it requires a separate
>
> It's expensive when it's hidden inside the news-server, too. When I
> had that kind of expensive filters on some big groups, they took
> minutes rather than seconds to open up.


Would you have on-topic discussions once in a while?


pr

2005-09-26, 6:51 pm

> > > > > > > > > > Newsgroups have been archived since 1995 by DejaNews, later
>
> Its like back in the past. BURN THE WITCHES! They don't see me online.


And these little soft hands, are going to slam the Googlists, like flies. Fast and many, but small
and noisy.


Blinky the Shark

2005-09-26, 6:51 pm

Blinky the Shark wrote:
> Els wrote:
>
> No, it's a command issued by the client (your news reader or, if you're
> rolling your own session, you at the telnet client). The server returns
> what's in the overview file, and that's all that's available for efficient
> filtering. And as my example showed, above, IP isn't available there.


CORRECTION! CORRECTION! CORRECTION!

My bad -- my answer is about XOVER, not XHDR, which is what you asked
about. Ignore in favor of:

No, XHDR is a separate command your client (or you, if you're rolling
your own session, like I did to show you what was available from XHDR
and from XOVER) issues to the server. The point is that if you need to
see headers (and the ones containing poster's IP are such headers) that
XOVER doesn't provide (normal, INexpensive filtering), XHDR has to be
used to get them, and that adds considerably to the download. Thus the
issue with using XHDR (to get the IP or anything else not in XOVER)
at dialup speeds.

Some news clients *let* you do this, but they usually do it silently --
leaving you to wonder why your download is taking so long. Of the
several news clients I have installed and set up and use (some only
for evaluation and helping other people, not that I use much) only one
- this one - provides the useful tip on the status line, when it does
have to download all of those extra headers because it's been thrown an
XHDR command): "Downloading additional headers"


--
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Blinky the Shark

2005-09-26, 6:51 pm

Els wrote:
> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>
>
> Okay.
> I have no idea about telnetting with a newsserver (my telnet
> experience doesn't go further than changing a setting in my router).
> My filter gui in Dialog lets me filter on anything that's in the
> headers. I'm guessing "xhdr" is included in what I call "the headers"?


To anyone who's following this: IGNORE THAT REPLY. I answered about
the XOVER command, not the XHDR command that Els asked about. See, instead,
the CORRECTION I made in a reply to my own first reply to Els. Tnx.


--
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Killing All Posts from GG: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html
pr

2005-09-26, 6:51 pm

> >>>> It's the Google Crank, again. Killfile readjustment time!
>
> To anyone who's following this: IGNORE THAT REPLY. I answered about
> the XOVER command, not the XHDR command that Els asked about. See, instead,
> the CORRECTION I made in a reply to my own first reply to Els. Tnx.


Hey, you are off topic.


pr

2005-09-26, 10:20 pm

> > >>>> It's the Google Crank, again. Killfile readjustment time!
>
> Hey, you are off topic.


I can swear I am hearing four flies in this thread. One two three four. They are
talking close to each other. Quiet, quiet, quiet, SHQUAM. Hahahahahahahahahahaha.


pr

2005-09-26, 10:20 pm

> > > >>>> It's the Google Crank, again. Killfile readjustment time!
>
> I can swear I am hearing four flies in this thread. One two three four. They are
> talking close to each other. Quiet, quiet, quiet, SHQUAM. Hahahahahahahahahahaha.


Its like Clint Eastwoods, they make their own justice, start talking about KKK killfies,
then change the topic, and forget. But, its OK. I can take it.


pr

2005-09-26, 10:21 pm

> > > >>>> It's the Google Crank, again. Killfile readjustment time!
>
> I can swear I am hearing four flies in this thread. One two three four. They are
> talking close to each other. Quiet, quiet, quiet, SHQUAM. Hahahahahahahahahahaha.


Its like Clint Eastwoods, they make their own justice, start talking about KKK killfies,
then change the topic, and forget. But, its OK. I can take it.

Hunting flies is the new game. Four little Clint Eastwoods down the toilet. Goodbye
little ones. Flush, flush, down the drain, down the toilet drain, merrily merrily merrily merrily
flush them down the drain. Four little big ones, I'll flush again you little Clint Eastwoods.
You'll find plenty of food in your new home.


pr

2005-09-26, 10:21 pm

> > > > >>>> It's the Google Crank, again. Killfile readjustment time!
>
> Its like Clint Eastwoods, they make their own justice, start talking about KKK killfies,
> then change the topic, and forget. But, its OK. I can take it.
>
> Hunting flies is the new game. Four little Clint Eastwoods down the toilet. Goodbye
> little ones. Flush, flush, down the drain, down the toilet drain, merrily merrily merrily merrily
> flush them down the drain. Four little big ones, I'll flush again you little Clint Eastwoods.
> You'll find plenty of food in your new home.


Could you believe one day you are being thrown out of here, and you are the proven losers.


pr

2005-09-26, 10:21 pm

> > > > > >>>> It's the Google Crank, again. Killfile readjustment time!
>
> Could you believe one day you are being thrown out of here, and you are the proven losers.


Your little toyground, is being guarded by a policeman now. Don't ever play in this playground
big freaks.


pr

2005-09-26, 10:21 pm

> > > > > >>>> It's the Google Crank, again. Killfile readjustment time!
>
> Could you believe one day you are being thrown out of here, and you are the proven losers.


Your little toyground, is being guarded by a policeman now. Don't ever play in this playground
big freaks.

Do you hear, me sirs.


pr

2005-09-26, 10:21 pm

> > > > > > >>>> It's the Google Crank, again. Killfile readjustment time!
>
> Your little toyground, is being guarded by a policeman now. Don't ever play in this playground
> big freaks.
>
> Do you hear, me sirs.


You are off topic assholes. Yes, that's what I said. You are not welcome here any more.

A S S H O L E S. A S S H O L E S. R O T T E N A S S H O L E S.


pr

2005-09-26, 10:21 pm

> > > > > > >>>> It's the Google Crank, again. Killfile readjustment time!
>
> Your little toyground, is being guarded by a policeman now. Don't ever play in this playground
> big freaks.
>
> Do you hear, me sirs.


You are off topic assholes. Yes, that's what I said. You are not welcome here any more.

A S S H O L E S. A S S H O L E S. R O T T E N A S S H O L E S.


pr

2005-09-26, 10:21 pm

> > > > > > > >>>> It's the Google Crank, again. Killfile readjustment time!
>
> You are off topic assholes. Yes, that's what I said. You are not welcome here any more.
>
> A S S H O L E S. A S S H O L E S. R O T T E N A S S H O L E S.


You don't deserve this thread.


pr

2005-09-26, 10:21 pm

> > > > > > > >>>> It's the Google Crank, again. Killfile readjustment time!
>
> You are off topic assholes. Yes, that's what I said. You are not welcome here any more.
>
> A S S H O L E S. A S S H O L E S. R O T T E N A S S H O L E S.


You don't deserve this thread.


pr

2005-09-26, 10:21 pm

> > > > > > > > >>>> It's the Google Crank, again. Killfile readjustment time!
>
> You don't deserve this thread.


You don't deserve the Internet.

People don't deserve your rudeness. Nobody deserves this rudeness, not even terrorists
in Abu Graib.


pr

2005-09-26, 10:21 pm

> > > > > > > > > >>>> It's the Google Crank, again. Killfile readjustment time!
>
> You don't deserve the Internet.
>
> People don't deserve your rudeness. Nobody deserves this rudeness, not even terrorists
> in Abu Graib.


Correction: Not even terrorist suspects in Abu Graib, not even anybody. Anybody.

Don't come back from the toilet.


David Dyer-Bennet

2005-09-26, 10:21 pm

"pr" <pr@pr.com> writes:

>
> Would you have on-topic discussions once in a while?


I'm at least giving information to somebody who has asked for
information; contributing *something* to *someone*.
--
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RKBA: <http://noguns-nomoney.com/> <http://www.dd-b.net/carry/>
Pics: <http://dd-b.lighthunters.net/> <http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/>
Dragaera/Steven Brust: <http://dragaera.info/>
pr

2005-09-26, 10:21 pm

> > > > > > > > > > >>>> It's the Google Crank, again. Killfile readjustment time!
>
> Correction: Not even terrorist suspects in Abu Graib, not even anybody. Anybody.
>
> Don't come back from the toilet.


You are very very dangerous flies. Good thing I got you. Next time you fly around,
look at the topic.


pr

2005-09-26, 10:21 pm

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> It's the Google Crank, again. Killfile readjustment time!
>
> You are very very dangerous flies. Good thing I got you. Next time you fly around,
> look at the topic.


Talking about killfiles, then you change the topic and arrogantly XXXX around. That's
called being a faceless jerk. I am tired of Google Groups, and I am surely tired of you
freaks.


pr

2005-09-26, 10:21 pm

> > > > > And this is "expensive" filtering, because it requires a separate
>
> I'm at least giving information to somebody who has asked for
> information; contributing *something* to *someone*.


Surely you read the thread.


pr

2005-09-26, 10:21 pm

> > > > > > And this is "expensive" filtering, because it requires a separate
>
> Surely you read the thread.


You are supposed to do that.


pr

2005-09-26, 10:21 pm

> > > > > > > And this is "expensive" filtering, because it requires a separate
>
> You are supposed to do that.


You are supposed to contribute to someone. Good job Hitler.


pr

2005-09-26, 10:21 pm

> > > > > > And this is "expensive" filtering, because it requires a separate
>
> Surely you read the thread.


You are supposed to do that. You are supposed to contribute to someone.
Good job Hitler.

Go back to the toilet, and feed on your favorite food. Wacko.


Jim

2005-09-26, 10:21 pm


"pr" <pr@pr.com> wrote in message news:d%IZe.67$5u3.1344@news.uswest.net...
> Newsgroups have been archived since 1995 by DejaNews, later
> purchased by Google (2001?). They are have been the primary archivers
> of newsgroups ever since. Upon the introduction of DejaNews, a lot
> of people protested for privacy, and DejaNews introduced X-No-Archive
> to sort of address those concerns. What they didn't address is that
> regardless
> of X-No-Archive, archiving newsgroups (all groups) should be illegal by
> concept. Privacy rights. A discussion forum is that, a discussion,
> and archiving discussions annoys people. Maybe you are used to hear
> that appologetic warning when phone companies warn that your call may
> be monitored for quality assurrance reasons. People are offended by being
> recorded, as that creates an Orwellian 1984 atmosphere. It violates
> people's deepest human rights. Its privacy that is being violated, and
> Google
> Groups Beta stands for something inhuman for discussion forums. These
> disgusting telemarketing businesses should be, you know, something about,
> like they are assholes.


Tell me about it, try searching Jim Snape in google groups. :-)
I've been permanently labled
http://groups.google.com/groups?sou...:en&q=Jim+Snape


--
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AKA The thread ender.
http://www.page-zone.com


pr

2005-09-26, 10:21 pm

> > > > > > > And this is "expensive" filtering, because it requires a separate
>
> You are supposed to do that. You are supposed to contribute to someone.
> Good job Hitler.
>
> Go back to the toilet, and feed on your favorite food. Wacko.


You need to understand you killfile people, the happily chat about other topics in the same
thread. You can't do that to anyone unless you are some fascist.


pr

2005-09-26, 10:21 pm

> > > > > > > > And this is "expensive" filtering, because it requires a separate
>
> You need to understand you killfile people, then happily chat about other topics in the same
> thread. You can't do that to anyone unless you are some fascist.


Or a fly.


pr

2005-09-26, 10:21 pm

> > > > > > > > And this is "expensive" filtering, because it requires a separate
>
> You need to understand you killfile people, then happily chat about other topics in the same
> thread. You can't do that to anyone unless you are some fascist.


Or a fly.


pr

2005-09-26, 10:21 pm

> > > > > > > > > And this is "expensive" filtering, because it requires a separate
>
> Or a fly.


No civilized human could brag about killfiles publically.


pr

2005-09-26, 10:21 pm

> > > > > > > > > > And this is "expensive" filtering, because it requires a separate
>
> No civilized human could brag about killfiles publically.


No civilized human could allow Google Groups archiving. Something to think about.


pr

2005-09-27, 3:30 am

> > > > > > > > > > > And this is "expensive" filtering, because it requires a separate
>
> No civilized human could allow Google Groups archiving. Something to think about.


Here, I'll tell you, and we better get this clear. There are only two types of people online.
Human, and ghetto. Human comes, and smacks ghetto as flies. Ghetto comes, and does
the ghetto: group and molest like vicious flies. Human = civilized. Ghetto = flies.


pr

2005-09-27, 3:30 am

> > > > > > > > > > > > And this is "expensive" filtering, because it requires a separate
>
> Here, I'll tell you, and we better get this clear. There are only two types of people online.
> Human, and ghetto. Human comes, and smacks ghetto as flies. Ghetto comes, and does
> the ghetto: group and molest like vicious flies. Human = civilized. Ghetto = flies.


And then, there is a human ghetto man, who goes to the heart of all hate at no cost.
And finds what? See Jesus' aim wat to be loved by everyone, and not the other way
around. But the effect became just that. Horror. Distance between people, etc.


pr

2005-09-27, 3:31 am

> > > > > > > > > > > > > And this is "expensive" filtering, because it requires a separate
>
> And then, there is a human ghetto man, who goes to the heart of all hate at no cost.
> And finds what? See Jesus' aim wat to be loved by everyone, and not the other way
> around. But the effect became just that. Horror. Distance between people, etc.


You see, Jesus forgot about the most important lesson of humanity: don't talk to strangers.

There are people who believe that talking to strangers in a convincing manner has purpose.
Though my attempt to convince clearly failed to reach a happy solution, and regardless
that the things I attempted to speak were humanly right by contact, the hatefulness and
arrogance of those who can only show hate for my attempt to bring down the fly kingdom
of the house "Google", my love remains perfect.


pr

2005-09-27, 7:13 pm

> > Newsgroups have been archived since 1995 by DejaNews, later
>
> Tell me about it, try searching Jim Snape in google groups. :-)
> I've been permanently labled
> http://groups.google.com/groups?sou...:en&q=Jim+Snape


Cussing and porn words have highest search on the Internet, so messages with those
kinds of words gain first priority and visibility for people's names.

Jesus Christ


pr

2005-09-27, 7:13 pm

> > > Newsgroups have been archived since 1995 by DejaNews, later
>
> Cussing and porn words have highest search on the Internet, so messages with those
> kinds of words gain first priority and visibility for people's names.
>
> Jesus Christ


See Jeses' lesson is just that. Don't talk to strangers (George Bushes). Because if you do,
they'll treat you like a terrorist. Saddam as a dictator tried to speak in mesmerizing ways,
to attract the sympathy of all people. Dictators are mesmerizing. Americans are arrogant
and greedy, and will tell you to go XXXX yourself, and even hurt you for that purpose,
bash you with ugly vcious names without second thoughts.

Do not talk to strangers. The newsgroups are intellectually lame. People are rude.
The nice ones are not here to be found in this cyberworld of fascists. They don't care that
you are nice. They seek just the opposite here. Themselves. They are vicious flies.....


pr

2005-09-27, 7:13 pm

> > > > Newsgroups have been archived since 1995 by DejaNews, later
>
> See Jeses' lesson is just that. Don't talk to strangers (George Bushes). Because if you do,
> they'll treat you like a terrorist. Saddam as a dictator tried to speak in mesmerizing ways,
> to attract the sympathy of all people. Dictators are mesmerizing. Americans are arrogant
> and greedy, and will tell you to go XXXX yourself, and even hurt you for that purpose,
> bash you with ugly vcious names without second thoughts.
>
> Do not talk to strangers. The newsgroups are intellectually lame. People are rude.
> The nice ones are not here to be found in this cyberworld of fascists. They don't care that
> you are nice. They seek just the opposite here. Themselves. They are vicious flies.....


You see, people are put on crosses to die, and the greedy public flies viciously celebrate their
win over those big human ones. Because its their win for their empire and for their collective
power as tiny ones. But the problem is not the religious side, but that Google Groups can be
defined in simple human language as a product that is illegal as it violates human rights by
archiving discussion forums, infringing on people's privacy like Ceaucescu's street cameras.


pr

2005-09-27, 7:13 pm

> > > > > Newsgroups have been archived since 1995 by DejaNews, later
>
> You see, people are put on crosses to die, and the greedy public flies viciously celebrate their
> win over those big human ones. Because its their win for their empire and for their collective
> power as tiny ones. But the problem is not the religious side, but that Google Groups can be
> defined in simple human language as a product that is illegal as it violates human rights by
> archiving discussion forums, infringing on people's privacy like Ceaucescu's street cameras.


So what do you choose, smack the biggest yuckiest queen fly called Google, the mother of all
Google flies like in a science fiction movie, or go teach about their crimes against humanity and
become Jesus Christ of Denver.


pr

2005-09-27, 7:13 pm

> > > > > > Newsgroups have been archived since 1995 by DejaNews, later
>
> So what do you choose, smack the biggest yuckiest queen fly called Google, the mother of all
> Google flies like in a science fiction movie, or go teach about their crimes against humanity and
> become Jesus Christ of Denver.


Smashing it and the most disgusting liquids full of yellow and green acids, and a long nose that
can suck you in for digestation, and one just smashes it until its dead. You choose.


pr

2005-09-27, 7:14 pm

> > > > > > > Newsgroups have been archived since 1995 by DejaNews, later
>
> Smashing it and the most disgusting liquids full of yellow and green acids, and a long nose that
> can suck you in for digestation, and one just smashes it until its dead. You choose.


Denvr. Denvrr. Howdeer.


pr

2005-09-27, 7:14 pm

> > > > > > Newsgroups have been archived since 1995 by DejaNews, later
>
> So what do you choose, smack the biggest yuckiest queen fly called Google, the mother of all
> Google flies like in a science fiction movie, or go teach about their crimes against humanity and
> become Jesus Christ of Denver.


Denvr. Denvrr. Howdeer.


pr

2005-09-27, 7:14 pm

> > > > > > > Newsgroups have been archived since 1995 by DejaNews, later
>
> Denvr. Denvrr. Howdeer.


How there, hi there, hi deer, howdy how howzit aynin therra howee howwaee haharr ah ehr (error)
ae ay a adarr (a deer) teerra odaharooah aeseeaya (I see you) deerah hidee rrear rranchett rrrr ega
a bearr grumby ahwe co'yott.


pr

2005-09-27, 7:14 pm

> > > > > > > > Newsgroups have been archived since 1995 by DejaNews, later
>
> How there, hi there, hi deer, howdy how howzit aynin therra howee howwaee haharr ah ehr (error)
> ae ay a adarr (a deer) teerra odaharooah aeseeaya (I see you) deerah hidee rrear rranchett rrrr ega
> a bearr grumby ahwe co'yott.


Howdy haharr, howzit ainin.


pr

2005-09-27, 7:14 pm

> > > > > > > > > Newsgroups have been archived since 1995 by DejaNews, later
>
> Howdy haharr, howzit ainin.


Howdy harr Denim. Howdy how howzin aynin' rreal good. Sonne.. (sonny)


pr

2005-09-27, 7:14 pm

> > > > > > > > > > Newsgroups have been archived since 1995 by DejaNews, later
>
> Howdy harr Denim. Howdy how howzin aynin' rreal good. Sonne.. (sonny)


Denim: Hinge! Commer. Colorado Orangutan'. Aynit.

Hinge: Commin Denim!

Denim: Higene deerah rrear ranchett.


pr

2005-09-27, 7:14 pm

> > > > > > > > > > > Newsgroups have been archived since 1995 by DejaNews, later
>
> Denim: Hinge! Commer. Colorado Orangutan'. Aynit.
>
> Hinge: Commin Denim!
>
> Denim: Higene deerah rrear ranchett.


Denim: Howzit ainin Hinge?

Hinge: Ainin good, rreal good. Darne aeseeaya Cowlarradow Orrangutan' sonne.


Andy Dingley

2005-09-27, 7:14 pm

On 26 Sep 2005 08:36:12 GMT, Blinky the Shark <no.spam@box.invalid>
wrote:

>It's the Google Crank, again.


Really? I'd always wondered how they powered it.

What are we supposed to do? Wind him up a bit? 8-)

pr

2005-09-27, 7:14 pm

> > > > > > > > > > > > Newsgroups have been archived since 1995 by DejaNews, later
>
> Denim: Howzit ainin Hinge?
>
> Hinge: Ainin good, rreal good. Darne aeseeaya Cowlarradow Orrangutan' sonne.


Hingen: Denim! Denim!

Denim: Commin, heil papa!

Datayn Orangutan. Over! Getter! That ain a moneker bich, that aina bich, dada monketter.
A monketter damnestarian, dahm, dahm, dahm! Its lord! Loooooooooord!


pr

2005-09-27, 7:14 pm

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Newsgroups have been archived since 1995 by DejaNews, later
>
> Hingen: Denim! Denim!
>
> Denim: Commin, heil papa!
>
> Datayn Orangutan. Over! Getter! That ain a moneker bich, that aina bich, dada monketter.
> A monketter damnestarian, dahm, dahm, dahm! Its lord! Loooooooooord!


Stranger: Harr harr.

Hingen: Howzit. Amen.

Stranger: Amen ranchetters, damnestarians, ranchesters, darne aeseeaya.


pr

2005-09-27, 7:14 pm

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Newsgroups have been archived since 1995 by DejaNews, later
>
> Stranger: Harr harr.
>
> Hingen: Howzit. Amen.
>
> Stranger: Amen ranchetters, damnestarians, ranchesters, darne aeseeaya.


Denim: Aeseeaya! Lord!

Hingen: Me rachett homer, lord, oda harooah therra Hingets ehr forhaharr dada
monketter howzit comer.

Lord: Grumber arn hidee.

Hingen: Grumber arn hidee, amen.


pr

2005-09-27, 7:14 pm

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Newsgroups have been archived since 1995 by DejaNews, later
>
> Denim: Aeseeaya! Lord!
>
> Hingen: Me rachett homer, lord, oda harooah therra Hingets ehr forhaharr dada
> monketter howzit comer.
>
> Lord: Grumber arn hidee.
>
> Hingen: Grumber arn hidee, amen.


Lord: Hitler. Hitlersens. Vi feel commen ader. Vasser. Vasser darnitarian!


pr

2005-09-27, 7:14 pm

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Newsgroups have been archived since 1995 by DejaNews, later
>
> Lord: Hitler. Hitlersens. Vi feel commen ader. Vasser. Vasser darnitarian!


Demin: Dalord!

Hingen: Fair rancher.

Demin: Fair indeed. Gootentag milord! Gootentaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag!

Lord: Heil min darnitarian. Heil Hiter, heil!

Demin and Hingen: Vasser. Gootentag. Grumber arn hidee Dalord forhahar.

Forhaharentag di commen.

Amen.


pr

2005-09-27, 7:14 pm

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Newsgroups have been archived since 1995 by DejaNews, later
http://groups.google.com/groups?sou...:en&q=Jim+Snape[color=darkred]
>
> Demin: Dalord!
>
> Hingen: Fair rancher.
>
> Demin: Fair indeed. Gootentag milord! Gootentaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag!
>
> Lord: Heil min darnitarian. Heil Hiter, heil!
>
> Demin and Hingen: Vasser. Gootentag. Grumber arn hidee Dalord forhahar.
>

Lord: Forhaharentag di commen.

Lord: Forhaharentag de hidee.

Hingen: Hideeharr, haharr di harr.

Lord: Warren, speak.

Warren: Howdeer. How deeyee know my nameritzig?

Lord: Warren, zig forhaharentag, butten milch ataren corrillan nun Demin zvei.

Warren: Vi feel cost ein an kleine nacht music fur zvei personnen?

Lord: Zvei hundred and achzig dollars. Speak, warren.

Denim: Holly zvei hundred and ahtzig dollars, Warren never spoke before, holler coster! Nameritzig?

Lord: Good izolars forhaharentag butten butten, darnet min libe! (kiss)

Good bye.




pr

2005-09-27, 7:14 pm

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Newsgroups have been archived since 1995 by DejaNews, later
> http://groups.google.com/groups?sou...:en&q=Jim+Snape
> Lord: Forhaharentag di commen.
>
> Lord: Forhaharentag de hidee.
>
> Hingen: Hideeharr, haharr di harr.
>
> Lord: Warren, speak.
>
> Warren: Howdeer. How deeyee know my nameritzig?
>
> Lord: Warren, zig forhaharentag, butten milch ataren corrillan nun Denim zvei.
>
> Warren: Vi feel cost ein an kleine nacht music fur zvei personnen?
>
> Lord: Zvei hundred and achzig dollars. Speak, warren.
>
> Denim: Holly zvei hundred and ahtzig dollars, Warren never spoke before, holler coster! Nameritzig?
>
> Lord: Good izolars forhaharentag butten butten, darnet min libe! (kiss)
>
> All: Good bye.


Warren: Denim cvei mi lord! Denim cvei!!!

Lord: Denim cvei holler! Speak, warren!


pr

2005-09-27, 7:14 pm

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Newsgroups have been archived since 1995 by DejaNews, later
>
> Warren: Denim cvei mi lord! Denim cvei!!!
>
> Lord: Denim cvei holler! Speak, warren!


Nebber layder: Mi lord mi lord, harooah min daughterish hassn' ein hundred feirenheit.

Lord: Aeseeaya! Ein hundred feirenheit? Harooah!

Ulrike grumbering: Aooo! Feel darnin boder allober.

Lord: No boder doder, Lord harr, hassn nameritzeg, libe dichzig. Achtung liben Hellen bitte.

Hellen: Achtung dollars, bitte.

Lord: Danke (kiss).

Auffidezen!

Auffidezen Lord!


pr

2005-09-27, 7:14 pm

> >It's the Google Crank, again.
>
> Really? I'd always wondered how they powered it.
>
> What are we supposed to do? Wind him up a bit? 8-)


You are talking to the toilet bowl.


pr

2005-09-27, 7:14 pm

> > >It's the Google Crank, again.
>
> You are talking to the toilet bowl.


~ > ~ ~ @ ~~~ < <

Flush.


pr

2005-09-27, 7:14 pm

> > > >It's the Google Crank, again.
>
> ~ > ~ ~ @ ~~~ < <
>


http://scd.mm-c1.yimg.com/image/1156811406

There he is! When will you flies stop your ghetto? Flushing again.


pr

2005-09-27, 7:14 pm

> > > >It's the Google Crank, again.
>
> ~ > ~ ~ @ ~~~ < <
>
> Flush.


Armaghetton.


pr

2005-09-27, 7:14 pm

> > > >It's the Google Crank, again.
>
> ~ > ~ ~ @ ~~~ < <
>
> Flush.


Armaghettone, the art of smashing a group of flies online, the ghettoing, bad-boying
online flies with extremist aptitudes, flies who publically talk about killfiling someone,
and they get horny from the smell of human blood. These flies have vampire teeth.
First of all, you cannot do that in public. There is no second of all, psycho. You are
thrown out of newsgroups in the name of everybody.


pr

2005-09-27, 7:14 pm

> > > > >It's the Google Crank, again.
>
> Armaghettone, the art of smashing a group of flies online, the ghettoing, bad-boying
> online flies with extremist aptitudes, flies who publically talk about killfiling someone,
> and they get horny from the smell of human blood. These flies have vampire teeth.
> First of all, you cannot do that in public. There is no second of all, psycho. You are
> thrown out of newsgroups in the name of everybody.


If you are from the ghetto, you can post but you cannot play extreme psycho blood
games here. This is international territory. I'll save you from the toilet fly, I'll
dry you up, and go fly away, and tell all your friends.


pr

2005-09-27, 7:14 pm

> > > > > >It's the Google Crank, again.
>
> "If you are from the ghetto, you can post but you cannot play extreme psycho blood
> games here. This is international territory. I'll save you from the toilet fly, I'll
> dry you up, and go fly away, and tell all your friends."


Of course tell that to Bush too, its something the majority of humanity been waiting for.
Psycho flies, will be slapped down.

~ ~~@ ~ ~


pr

2005-09-27, 7:14 pm

> > > > > > >It's the Google Crank, again.
>
> Of course tell that to Bush too, its something the majority of humanity been waiting for.
> Psycho flies, will be slapped down.
>
> ~ ~~@ ~ ~


I was watching a policeman standing on a bridge a few days ago and shooting at someone
down the river in the bushes. And it made me think what the USA is. He had a half shotgun
half machine gun looking smaller police gun, but I was thinking somebody is dieing down
there in the bushes. Denver. I felt, you know, bad. Really, seeing somebody being shot at
by the police, you know, the best is to go away from anything American as far as possible.
Its sick. The whole country. All its people. The policeman, is just there with gun on the bridge,
and shooting at someone trying to escape the police. Its XXXXing madness. Madness.
Not human.


pr

2005-09-27, 7:14 pm

> > > > > > > >It's the Google Crank, again.
>
> I was watching a policeman standing on a bridge a few days ago and shooting at someone
> down the river in the bushes. And it made me think what the USA is. He had a half shotgun
> half machine gun looking smaller police gun, but I was thinking somebody is dieing down
> there in the bushes. Denver. I felt, you know, bad. Really, seeing somebody being shot at
> by the police, you know, the best is to go away from anything American as far as possible.
> Its sick. The whole country. All its people. The policeman, is just there with gun on the bridge,
> and shooting at someone trying to escape the police. Its XXXXing madness. Madness.
> Not human.


I saw it in the ghetto. But, I felt bad from what I saw, and drove by like everybody else on
the bridge, remembering what I saw, and quickly forgetting a scene in the USA. I don't see
that in other European countries.


pr

2005-09-27, 7:14 pm

> > > > > > > > >It's the Google Crank, again.
>
> I saw it in the ghetto. But, I felt bad from what I saw, and drove by like everybody else on
> the bridge, remembering what I saw, and quickly forgetting a scene in the USA. I don't see
> that in other European countries.


I saw a movie yesterday, it was about all the problems in America.

The strike one, strike two and strike three law, how sad it is. People get life in jail for steeling
a car.

Brain abnormalities, social corruption, (strong signs of fascism), lack of respect toward
human rights, extremely like Google with its Groups Beta and Library projects.

Even declining a prisoner's right to smoke is crimes against humanity, and nobody realizes
that only the civilized, and so few in this country.

Even prohibiting smoking in all California beaches violates the deepest human rights, and
nobody realizes.

A sinking country, sinking humanity, police brutality. They tell you to hold the wheel.
A black man cannot take it any more and tells the police they cannot treat him like that,
and the police is ready to shoot him. There is a growing public awareness and a growing
fanatic opposition.

Farewell America.


pr

2005-09-27, 7:14 pm

> > > > > > > > > >It's the Google Crank, again.
>
> I saw a movie yesterday, it was about all the problems in America.
>
> The strike one, strike two and strike three law, how sad it is. People get life in jail for steeling
> a car.
>
> Brain abnormalities, social corruption, (strong signs of fascism), lack of respect toward
> human rights, extremely like Google with its Groups Beta and Library projects.
>
> Even declining a prisoner's right to smoke is crimes against humanity, and nobody realizes
> that only the civilized, and so few in this country.
>
> Even prohibiting smoking in all California beaches violates the deepest human rights, and
> nobody realizes.
>
> A sinking country, sinking humanity, police brutality. They tell you to hold the wheel.
> A black man cannot take it any more and tells the police they cannot treat him like that,
> and the police is ready to shoot him. There is a growing public awareness and a growing
> fanatic opposition.
>
> Farewell America.


The more like me leave, the more shit you remain in. I will not write in your newspapers
anything intellectual. Good bye.


Andy Dingley

2005-09-28, 10:32 pm

On 28 Sep 2005 03:50:48 GMT, Blinky the Shark <no.spam@box.invalid>
wrote:

>Good Good no! He'll be on auto soon enough as it is.


I see what you mean! Even by net.loon standards, this one's a cracker.
Can we keep him as a pet?


--
'Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu Evesham wagn'nagl fhtagn'
Blinky the Shark

2005-09-28, 10:32 pm

Andy Dingley wrote:
> On 28 Sep 2005 03:50:48 GMT, Blinky the Shark <no.spam@box.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>
> I see what you mean! Even by net.loon standards, this one's a cracker.
> Can we keep him as a pet?


Any volunteers for feeding him, exercising him, and cleaning his cage?

Let's see a show of hands......


--
Blinky Linux Registered User 297263
Killing All Posts from GG: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html
Norman L. DeForest

2005-09-29, 6:28 pm


On 28 Sep 2005, Blinky the Shark wrote:

> Andy Dingley wrote:
>
> Any volunteers for feeding him, exercising him, and cleaning his cage?
>
> Let's see a show of hands......


Only if he's neutered first.

--
Norman De Forest http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~af380/Profile.html
af380@chebucto.ns.ca At the Sign of the Flashing Cursor [=||=]
"I sense a great need: _Suicide for Dummies_."
-- D. Joseph Creighton in the scary devil monastery

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