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| X-file 2005-07-25, 7:58 pm |
| After reading many terms of service stipulations I am frankly skeptical that a web hoster can be free of abusive terms and conditions.
On reading yours I would say that you are in the overwhelming dominant position and that you can abuse your position as the terms allocate you extensive powers.
For a point for point contractual analysis please remit via Paypal $35 for the first hour of legal research to grasshopper2001@hotmail.com.
A few points to mention your terminology allows and prohibits what you don't necessarily wish it too therefor it can be better written. Generally I am a writer editor epublishing (I have be doing it since 1988 at one point my site was reviewed by an editor of the Wall Street Journal I don't think he was there at the time who referred refers to me as a pioneer).
On principle I will not subject myself to the laws of every idiot jurisdiction in the world regarding what I write if that is the case free speech on the Internet is DEAD. Even less I will not subject my money and business to the idiot laws of every state locality or nation.
For one you say a that "Harm to minors. Using the Services to harm, or attempt to harm, minors in any way." is would be considered a basis for termination of service for a breech of contract:
Just as Sokratis (Socrates) tried for corrupting the youth of Athens and that has nothing to do with sex or porno.
"At a time when Athens was seeking to recover from humiliating defeat, the Athenian public court was induced by three leading public figures to try Socrates for impiety and for corrupting the youth of Athens. According to Dr Will Beldam, he was the first person to question everything and everyone, and apparently it offended the leaders of this time. He was found guilty as charged, and sentenced to drink hemlock, which cost him his life." (Socrates: wikipedia.org)
A simple observation I can make is that you and most hosters don't own or control the Internet so why do you feel required to police it before the issues arise and try to dictate every petty matter?
What I found strange is that I found out some adult host services (who allow porno sites) extortionately in contract prohibit them just so they (the hosters can cut them off at will).
As these matters have detrimentally prejudiced me and by the way any attorneys wish to file suit for violation of the:
1. Commerce Clause of the US Constitution?
2. or Title 42 sec 1983?
~A~
Andrew Zito
P.O.Box 1615
Altoona, Pa 16603
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universally copyrighted 2005 Andrew Zito
"Steve Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in message news:dc11c1$sgq$2@ratbert.glorb.com...
> X-file <andrew_zito wrote:
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> http://justthe.net/legal/tos/
>
> Pretty straightforward. I'm interested in what you think of my TOS regarding
> "freedom of speech", which, by the way, does have limitations, as described
> in the US Constitution... there are certain forms of expression that will
> get you kicked off my service, but they're not normally things that people
> have problems with (stuff like harrassment, forgery, and spam).
>
> --
> Steve Sobol, Professional Geek 888-480-4638 PGP: 0xE3AE35ED
> Company website: http://JustThe.net/
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> E: sjsobol@JustThe.net Snail: 22674 Motnocab Road, Apple Valley, CA 92307
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| GreyWyvern 2005-07-25, 7:58 pm |
| And lo, X-file didst speak in alt.www.webmaster:
> Dear Knockleheads:
>
> Why don't you fill in the spaces of what you say?
> By the way I can get a website any time but I will not invest the amount
> of
> time and money I do with knockheads. Actaully you blokes are not too
> bright
> anyone can agree to whatever your terms and conditions are and then pay
> someone to visit you to enforce it.
>
> By the way names change so lock yourself up as it appears you are the
> criminal. By the Yahoo doesn't complain about my money you idiot.
>
> Andrew Zito
> P.O.Box 1615
> Altoona, Pa 16603
Awwww. Still sore about getting kicked off your last host? Tsk tsk.
Grey
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| GreyWyvern 2005-07-25, 7:58 pm |
| And lo, X-file didst speak in alt.www.webmaster:
> After reading many terms of service stipulations I am frankly skeptical
> that a web hoster can be free of abusive terms and conditions.
>
> On reading yours I would say that you are in the overwhelming dominant
> position and that you can abuse your position as the terms allocate you
> extensive powers.
>
> For a point for point contractual analysis please remit via Paypal $35
> for the first hour of legal research to grasshopper2001@hotmail.com.
So, you really don't need hosting, you're trying to peddle your TOS
writing services?
> On principle I will not subject myself to the laws of every idiot
> jurisdiction in the world regarding what I write if that is the case
> free speech on the Internet is DEAD. Even less I will not subject my
> money and business to the idiot laws of every state locality or nation.
>
> [snip whining]
What a pitiable XXX you are, Andrew Zito. How's that for free-speech?
> As these matters have detrimentally prejudiced me and by the way any
> attorneys wish to file suit for violation of the:
>
> 1. Commerce Clause of the US Constitution?
> 2. or Title 42 sec 1983?
I'm not subject to the US Constitution nor any other US legislation. I
think you'll find a great many others online share this characteristic.
If I had a hosting company, I wouldn't host you, simply because you're a
jerk. So sue me.
Grey
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| Matt-the-Hoople 2005-07-25, 7:58 pm |
| after careful consideration, "X-file" <andrew_zito wrote in
alt.www.webmaster
> Dear Knockleheads:
>
what is up with the proliferation of kooks lately? My killfile runneth over.
*plonk*
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Got lint?
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| William Tasso 2005-07-25, 7:58 pm |
| Writing in news:alt.www.webmaster
From the safety of the C.H.A.O.S. cafeteria
Matt-the-Hoople <matt.lindi2@your_clothes_verizon.net> said:
> after careful consideration, "X-file" <andrew_zito wrote in
> alt.www.webmaster
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> what is up with the proliferation of kooks lately?
summer holidays (recess)?
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William Tasso
** Business as usual
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| Matt-the-Hoople 2005-07-25, 7:58 pm |
| after careful consideration, William Tasso wrote in alt.www.webmaster
> Writing in news:alt.www.webmaster
> From the safety of the C.H.A.O.S. cafeteria
> Matt-the-Hoople <matt.lindi2@your_clothes_verizon.net> said:
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> summer holidays (recess)?
>
Ahh - right. I forgot - it's some rite of passage or something.
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Got lint?
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| X-file 2005-07-25, 7:58 pm |
| I never had a site kicked off XXXXXXX where do you get that from
the same place you molest children at come here so I could beat the shit out
of you!
Though I have been harassed by fascist pigs like you.
STOP TAKING DRUGS YOUR BOSS THE CIA ISNT SUPPOSE TO ALLOW IT
"GreyWyvern" <spam@greywyvern.com> wrote in message
news:op.suhd4hrcsl6xfd@news.nas.net
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> Awwww. Still sore about getting kicked off your last host? Tsk tsk.
>
> Grey
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| X-file 2005-07-25, 7:58 pm |
| THAT'S IT for your .000015 seconds of fame
"Matt-the-Hoople" <matt.lindi2@your_clothes_verizon.net> wrote in message
news:Xns969E984E88379mattlindi2yourclothe@130.81.64.196...
> after careful consideration, "X-file" <andrew_zito wrote in
> alt.www.webmaster
>
>
> what is up with the proliferation of kooks lately? My killfile runneth
> over.
>
> *plonk*
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| X-file 2005-07-25, 7:58 pm |
| DUh you
"GreyWyvern" <spam@greywyvern.com> wrote in message
news:op.suhehpo0sl6xfd@news.nas.net...
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> I'm not subject to the US Constitution nor any other US legislation.
Maybe not but at least you deserve a well placed bullet to the head
public service volunteers welcome
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| GreyWyvern 2005-07-25, 7:58 pm |
| And lo, X-file didst speak in alt.www.webmaster:
> I never had a site kicked off XXXXXXX where do you get that from
> the same place you molest children at come here so I could beat the shit
> out
> of you!
> Though I have been harassed by fascist pigs like you.
> STOP TAKING DRUGS YOUR BOSS THE CIA ISNT SUPPOSE TO ALLOW IT
Yawn. Tell us another one.
Grey
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| Kim Andr Aker 2005-07-26, 7:52 pm |
| Matt-the-Hoople wrote:
> after careful consideration, "X-file" <andrew_zito wrote in
> alt.www.webmaster
>
>
> what is up with the proliferation of kooks lately? My killfile
> runneth over.
>
> *plonk*
Exactly. I've had an empty killfile (more or less) for years now, and
now I'm about to add the second one already in less than a week!
If he doesn't start behaving soon (and by that, I mean by the end of
the day), I'm plonking him as well...
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Kim Andr Aker
- kimandre@NOSPAMbetadome.com
(remove NOSPAM to contact me directly)
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| Gordon Freeman 2005-07-31, 7:45 pm |
| X-file <andrew_zito 写道:
> Immediately Wanted Webhosting Service that is reasonably priced
> for service of a true multi-domain sites account
> PHP fantastico one touch installation
> a business political track record and accountability
> ineterested in real BBB members
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> for provision of dependable service and provides technical support 24/7
> prorated service for up and downgrades of service
> with a fair guarantee of service
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> without overly written (nor overly clever) terms of services
> obscure pseudo-legal rhetoric
> nor abusive dictatorial provisions
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> (porno, adult material, improper material, indecent material,
> spam, and legality et cetera is not what ever you think it is.)
> (nor are the laws of every jurisdiction accepted sorry Saudi Arabia
> and Singapore you are not the last bastions of free speech)
>
> For the hosting of multiple web sites of varied content based on free
> speech and mature format long term contract account NO PORNO NO SPAM
> 100% legal hosting service can not cater to law enforcement authorities
> to do whatever they want
>
> Andrew Zito
> P.O.Box 1615
> Altoona, Pa 16603
>
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