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ot: xnews and killfiles
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| robert blake 2005-07-24, 7:36 pm |
| I finally decided today to add gb7648 to my newsreader's kill-file (100
days locked up for the google lover)
Wow, what a helluva difference that made to the newsgroup.
Viper is edging closer to the trap door as well.
I have used xnews for years and I have to say that it has one of the best
kill-files in the business. Once you click to kill-file, they stay
killfiled (unless they get a new isp)
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| William Tasso 2005-07-24, 7:36 pm |
| Writing in news:alt.www.webmaster
From the safety of the EasyNews, UseNet made Easy! cafeteria
robert blake <4444D@yahoo.com> said:
> I finally decided today to add gb7648 to my newsreader's kill-file (100
> days locked up for the google lover)
>
> Wow, what a helluva difference that made to the newsgroup.
Know what you mean - seems there's little chance that s/he will ever be a
useful contributor to this group. Don't think I've seen even one on-topic
post from the fool.
--
William Tasso
** Business as usual
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| robert blake 2005-07-24, 7:36 pm |
| "William Tasso" <SpamBlocked@tbdata.com> wrote in
news:op.sufcvepzm9g4qz-wnt@tbdata.com:
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> Know what you mean - seems there's little chance that s/he will ever
> be a useful contributor to this group. Don't think I've seen even
> one on-topic post from the fool.
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yes, altho the person is seemingly harmless (and may have other issues), I
just couldn't find any reason to have to hoke through his/her posts any
longer.
This is my first kill-file use in years.
Step forward viper, while I'm in good form!
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| Gandalf Parker 2005-07-24, 7:36 pm |
| robert blake <4444D@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:Xns969DAA0972129ghtyu@140.99.99.130:
> I have used xnews for years and I have to say that it has one of the
> best kill-files in the business. Once you click to kill-file, they
> stay killfiled (unless they get a new isp)
Pros and Cons. I avoid recommending Xnews to newbies because instead of
using it to access multiple newsservers at once, they use it to create
multiple folders to organize their newsgroups and have them all access
the same newsserver at the same time. That tends to give them the dreaded
"too many connections" error. They scream at the ISP for being cheap, and
respond "but I only connected one time"
As for killfiles, they are great for the old style of trolls but they are
deadly for any newsgroup that gets targetted by the a-l-t-/./t-r-o-l-l-s
newsgroup (I dont want to get their attention). They dont care about
responses. Only in reaching 75% or higher of the posts. They crosspost to
a dozen other targetted-for-death groups. When new people cant find real
posts and real responses, they move on. The group dies while the regulars
wonder why since their killfiles keep them from seeing the problem.
Like I said, pros and cons.
Gandalf Parker
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| Dylan Parry 2005-07-24, 7:36 pm |
| Using a pointed stick and pebbles, robert blake scraped:
> I finally decided today to add gb7648 to my newsreader's kill-file (100
> days locked up for the google lover)
Been there, done that, but £25 for the T-Shirt seemed a bit steep ;)
--
Dylan Parry
http://electricfreedom.org -- Where the Music Progressively Rocks!
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| robert blake 2005-07-24, 7:36 pm |
| Gandalf Parker <gandalf@most.of.my.favorite.sites> wrote in
news:Xns969D5D73FF26Agandalfparker@208.201.224.154:
> As for killfiles, they are great for the old style of trolls but they
> are deadly for any newsgroup that gets targetted by the
> a-l-t-/./t-r-o-l-l-s newsgroup (I dont want to get their attention).
> They dont care about responses. Only in reaching 75% or higher of the
> posts. They crosspost to a dozen other targetted-for-death groups.
> When new people cant find real posts and real responses, they move on.
> The group dies while the regulars wonder why since their killfiles
> keep them from seeing the problem.
that is VERY true.
I do appreciate that the newbie looking in will most likely think 'what the
hell?' when he/she sees the wasteland...and they will not hang around.
I don't know the answer tho.....beyond ensuring that good folks dominate
the majority of the volume of posts in the newsgroup.
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| robert blake 2005-07-24, 7:36 pm |
| Dylan Parry <usenet@dylanparry.com> wrote in news:3khtppFuhm2hU1
@individual.net:
> Using a pointed stick and pebbles, robert blake scraped:
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> Been there, done that, but £25 for the T-Shirt seemed a bit steep ;)
I downloaded my virtual t-shirt.
Now I bet the riaa will be after my guts.
;)
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| William Tasso wrote:
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> Know what you mean - seems there's little chance that s/he will ever be a
> useful contributor to this group. Don't think I've seen even one on-topic
> post from the fool.
The style is familiar to me from postings in the various UFO and alien
abduction newsgroups (don't ask - it was research). gb7648 shows some of
the classic symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia (which include an inflated
sense of self-importance based on the conviction that one has important
information that must be communicated to the world to save it from an evil
it can't see for itself).
The UFO newsgroups are full of ranters, but also many people who go there
simply to stir up the crazies and enjoy the spectacle - which is why I
often refer to it as the New Bedlam.
Ah well, gb7648 can keep viper company in my kill file - they seem to be of
a similar intellectual level and make about as much sense as each other.
@+
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| Charles Sweeney 2005-07-24, 7:36 pm |
| robert blake wrote
> I finally decided today to add gb7648 to my newsreader's kill-file
Yep, did the same thing myself today. Right now it's just him and snakey
that's in there. Haven't used it for ages too, then suddenly it gets busy!
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Charles Sweeney
http://CharlesSweeney.com
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| robert blake 2005-07-24, 7:36 pm |
| Charles Sweeney <me@charlessweeney.com> wrote in
news:Xns969DDC513EE5Cmecharlessweeneycom@130.133.1.4:
> robert blake wrote
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> Yep, did the same thing myself today. Right now it's just him and
> snakey that's in there. Haven't used it for ages too, then suddenly
> it gets busy!
lol same here.
It's either a feast or a famine.
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| Dylan Parry 2005-07-24, 7:36 pm |
| Using a pointed stick and pebbles, robert blake scraped:
> I have used xnews for years
Okay, call me stupid but *where* is the xnews homepage? I tried looking
for it in Google, but the only pages I could find had horrible out of
date versions to download!
--
Dylan Parry
http://electricfreedom.org -- Where the Music Progressively Rocks!
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| Charles Sweeney 2005-07-24, 7:36 pm |
| Dylan Parry wrote
> Using a pointed stick and pebbles, robert blake scraped:
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> Okay, call me stupid but *where* is the xnews homepage? I tried
looking
> for it in Google, but the only pages I could find had horrible out of
> date versions to download!
I'm still using Xnews, never used anything else since I got it.
It is out of date now. The guy who made it, stopped developing it, but
the latest version works perfectly well.
I don't have the URL to hand, but a quick look in the archive for posts
by myself, or Els (who got it the same time as me) should get you a
link.
--
Charles Sweeney
http://CharlesSweeney.com
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| Dylan Parry 2005-07-24, 7:36 pm |
| Using a pointed stick and pebbles, Charles Sweeney scraped:
[xnews]
> I don't have the URL to hand, but a quick look in the archive for posts
> by myself, or Els (who got it the same time as me) should get you a
> link.
Yeah, thanks. I found it eventually! Anyway, I downloaded and configured
it, but within minutes I had decided that I didn't like it :( Back to
Thunderbird for me, methinks.
--
Dylan Parry
http://electricfreedom.org -- Where the Music Progressively Rocks!
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| robert blake 2005-07-24, 7:36 pm |
| Dylan Parry <usenet@dylanparry.com> wrote in news:3kidhjFu9gdvU2
@individual.net:
> Using a pointed stick and pebbles, robert blake scraped:
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> Okay, call me stupid but *where* is the xnews homepage? I tried looking
> for it in Google, but the only pages I could find had horrible out of
> date versions to download!
>
as charles says, the bloke who wrote xnews stopped developing it 2 or 3
years ago.
I checked my version there now and it is version 5.04.25
You can download it from
http://xnews.newsguy.com
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| robert blake 2005-07-24, 7:36 pm |
| Dylan Parry <usenet@dylanparry.com> wrote in news:3kiejdFpnvdeU1
@individual.net:
> Using a pointed stick and pebbles, Charles Sweeney scraped:
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> [xnews]
>
> Yeah, thanks. I found it eventually! Anyway, I downloaded and configured
> it, but within minutes I had decided that I didn't like it :( Back to
> Thunderbird for me, methinks.
oh yeah of little faith! ;)
I've used them all, and xnews is by far my personal fave.
Superb for killfiling (best I have found); superb for text based
newsgroups, superb for binary based newsgroups.....and loads of other great
pros.
All personal taste tho.
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| Blinky the Shark 2005-07-25, 7:37 am |
| Dylan Parry wrote:
> Using a pointed stick and pebbles, Blinky the Shark scraped:
[color=darkred]
> How does the above translate to the *real world*? ;)
Argh!!! I did that TWICE today! :)
http://blinkynet.net/comp/xnewsrels.html
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Killing all Usenet posts from Google Groups
Info: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html
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| robert blake 2005-07-25, 7:58 pm |
| Blinky the Shark <no.spam@box.invalid> wrote in
news:slrnde8c3n.nk4.no.spam@thurston.blinkynet.net:
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> Resources for it here, if you're interested. Second section:
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> http://blinkynet.net/comp/ndx_windows.html
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thanks for the link, blinky!
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| robert blake 2005-07-25, 7:58 pm |
| Blinky the Shark <no.spam@box.invalid> wrote in
news:slrnde8c57.nk4.no.spam@thurston.blinkynet.net:
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> There are newer versions.
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there are?!
i thought 5.04.25 was latest
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| robert blake 2005-07-26, 7:52 pm |
| Blinky the Shark <no.spam@box.invalid> wrote in
news:slrndeal0h.5r6.no.spam@thurston.blinkynet.net:
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> Nope.
>
> Download the "test" version (it's stable! "test" means something else,
> to Xnews Nation) and overwrite your current exe with it. All your
> settings will remain. That latest version, despite the stupid version
> *number* is really version 7.something.
>
thanks Blinky
I must downlaod this new version.
I woul dlove some smart programmer t otake on XNews and keep updating it.
It is far too good a program to let wither and die.
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| Blinky the Shark 2005-07-26, 7:53 pm |
| robert blake wrote:
> Blinky the Shark <no.spam@box.invalid> wrote in
> news:slrndeal0h.5r6.no.spam@thurston.blinkynet.net:
[color=darkred]
[color=darkred]
[color=darkred]
> thanks Blinky
YW.
> I must downlaod this new version.
> I woul dlove some smart programmer t otake on XNews and keep updating it.
> It is far too good a program to let wither and die.
I'm sure there are some who would love to, but Luu has stated
unequivocally that he won't release the source.
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Blinky Linux Registered User 297263
Killing all Usenet posts from Google Groups
Info: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html
*ALSO contains links for access to the NON-BETA GG archive interface*
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| robert blake 2005-07-26, 7:53 pm |
| Blinky the Shark <no.spam@box.invalid> wrote in
news:slrndecohm.stp.no.spam@thurston.blinkynet.net:
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> I'm sure there are some who would love to, but Luu has stated
> unequivocally that he won't release the source.
why is he being so obstinate, blinky?
Maybe he sees commercial worth at some point down the line?
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| William Tasso 2005-07-26, 7:53 pm |
| Writing in news:alt.www.webmaster
From the safety of the EasyNews, UseNet made Easy! cafeteria
robert blake <4444D@yahoo.com> said:
> Blinky the Shark <no.spam@box.invalid> wrote in
> news:slrndecohm.stp.no.spam@thurston.blinkynet.net:
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> why is he being so obstinate, blinky?
because he can?
because it's his right?
You don't know many developers do you? ;)
> Maybe he sees commercial worth at some point down the line?
could be (there appears to be mileage in the Opera model) or maybe matey
wants to ensure his place in history.
--
William Tasso
** Business as usual
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| robert blake 2005-07-26, 7:53 pm |
| "William Tasso" <SpamBlocked@tbdata.com> wrote in
news:op.sui4d10pm9g4qz-wnt@tbdata.com:
> Writing in news:alt.www.webmaster
> From the safety of the EasyNews, UseNet made Easy! cafeteria
> robert blake <4444D@yahoo.com> said:
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> because he can?
> because it's his right?
i'll set Blunkett on him.
He'll set out what rights he has coming to him.
> You don't know many developers do you? ;)
i've only ever deveoped screensavers....don't think the ycount tho, in
the great scheme of things :)
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> could be (there appears to be mileage in the Opera model) or maybe
> matey wants to ensure his place in history.
maybe the latter.
altho in cyberland, no one can hear your screams
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| Blinky the Shark 2005-07-26, 7:53 pm |
| robert blake wrote:
> Blinky the Shark <no.spam@box.invalid> wrote in
> news:slrndecohm.stp.no.spam@thurston.blinkynet.net:
[color=darkred]
[color=darkred]
> why is he being so obstinate, blinky?
> Maybe he sees commercial worth at some point down the line?
My memory has it that he said something like since he wrote Xnews for
himself (thanks for sharing it, Luu!) from the beginning, the code isn't
very pretty and he's kind of embarrassed to open it.
--
Blinky Linux Registered User 297263
Killing all Usenet posts from Google Groups
Info: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html
*ALSO contains links for access to the NON-BETA GG archive interface*
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| Charles Sweeney 2005-07-26, 7:54 pm |
| Blinky the Shark wrote
> My memory has it that he said something like since he wrote Xnews for
> himself (thanks for sharing it, Luu!) from the beginning, the code isn't
> very pretty and he's kind of embarrassed to open it.
He shouldn't be. I was looking for a good newsreader, which Xnews is, not
pretty code.
--
Charles Sweeney
http://CharlesSweeney.com
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| robert blake 2005-07-26, 11:26 pm |
| Charles Sweeney <me@charlessweeney.com> wrote in
news:Xns96A026E924mecharlessweeneycom@130.133.1.4:
> Blinky the Shark wrote
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> He shouldn't be. I was looking for a good newsreader, which Xnews is,
> not pretty code.
>
yes.....simply the best newsreader that I have ever used.....and i have
been thru just about them all
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| Blinky the Shark 2005-07-26, 11:27 pm |
| Charles Sweeney wrote:
> Blinky the Shark wrote
[color=darkred]
> He shouldn't be. I was looking for a good newsreader, which Xnews is, not
> pretty code.
There's probably a contact link on his site.
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Blinky Linux Registered User 297263
Killing all Usenet posts from Google Groups
Info: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html
*ALSO contains links for access to the NON-BETA GG archive interface*
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