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| Blinky the Shark 2005-05-18, 7:47 pm |
| Okay, alla ya Google Wizards...
How the heck does searching keyword ouka lead to the first hit trying
to set a cookie, when you've not visited it?
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| Blinky the Shark wrote:
> Okay, alla ya Google Wizards...
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> How the heck does searching keyword ouka lead to the first hit trying
> to set a cookie, when you've not visited it?
I think this is the culprit:
<link rel="prefetch" href="http://www.oulu.ouka.fi/index.asp"><a
href=http://www.oulu.ouka.fi/index.asp>
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| William Tasso 2005-05-18, 7:47 pm |
| Forging a path through the Usenet jungle, armed only with a rusty
40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1, Els stumbled into alt.www.webmaster and said:
> Blinky the Shark wrote:
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> I think this is the culprit:
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> <link rel="prefetch" href="http://www.oulu.ouka.fi/index.asp"><a
> href=http://www.oulu.ouka.fi/index.asp>
So now you have cookies/evidence sent to your machine for storage from
sites you haven't even visited.
Neat trick - some people have way too much time on their hands.
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| Matt Probert 2005-05-18, 7:47 pm |
| Once upon a time, far far away "William Tasso"
<SpamBlocked@tbdata.com> spluttered
>Forging a path through the Usenet jungle, armed only with a rusty
>40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1, Els stumbled into alt.www.webmaster and said:
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>So now you have cookies/evidence sent to your machine for storage from
>sites you haven't even visited.
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>Neat trick - some people have way too much time on their hands.
In contrast to shoppers at Asda who have way too much..........Sorry,
I'll shut up.
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| William Tasso 2005-05-18, 7:47 pm |
| Forging a path through the Usenet jungle, armed only with a rusty Forte
Free Agent 1.21/32.243, Matt Probert stumbled into alt.www.webmaster and
said:
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> In contrast to shoppers at Asda who have way too much.........
?? sheep?
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| trevor 2005-05-18, 7:47 pm |
| "William Tasso" <SpamBlocked@tbdata.com> wrote in news:op.sqzd5nzwm9g4qz-
wnt@tbdata.com:
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> Neat trick - some people have way too much time on their hands.
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or way too much of someone else’s money in their pockets. where’s the
offending URL? I want to see this.
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| Charles Sweeney 2005-05-18, 7:47 pm |
| Els wrote
> Blinky the Shark wrote:
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> I think this is the culprit:
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> <link rel="prefetch" href="http://www.oulu.ouka.fi/index.asp"><a
> href=http://www.oulu.ouka.fi/index.asp>
Interesting.
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| Blinky the Shark 2005-05-18, 7:47 pm |
| Els wrote:
> Blinky the Shark wrote:
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> I think this is the culprit:
><link rel="prefetch" href="http://www.oulu.ouka.fi/index.asp"><a
>href=http://www.oulu.ouka.fi/index.asp>
Okay, now I'm wondering why Google would toss that into that particular
site.
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| Charles Sweeney 2005-05-18, 7:47 pm |
| Charles Sweeney wrote
> Interesting.
I'm wondering why it is there, and how it gets there. I did a quick test.
Didn't see any other links with "prefetch".
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| Blinky the Shark wrote:
> Els wrote:
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> Okay, now I'm wondering why Google would toss that into that particular
> site.
Was thinking the same thing - like Charles, I too did some tests, and
I haven't found another site that gets a prefetch link. What I did
find, is that if you do another search, and then go back with the back
button to the ouka results, the prefetch link has moved to the <head>
of the page, and isn't near the result anymore.
Could it be they pay Google for such a link?
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| Blinky the Shark 2005-05-18, 7:47 pm |
| Els wrote:
> Blinky the Shark wrote:
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> Was thinking the same thing - like Charles, I too did some tests, and
> I haven't found another site that gets a prefetch link. What I did
> find, is that if you do another search, and then go back with the back
> button to the ouka results, the prefetch link has moved to the <head>
> of the page, and isn't near the result anymore.
> Could it be they pay Google for such a link?
I can't see why they'd pay Google to PRE-aggravate people before they
even went to their site, which would at best be a break-even with normal
cookie-tossing[1] even if someone *did* still visit and at worst a "XXXX
your cookie AND you" situation for many of us that would keep us from
going there.
[1]Not in the chunder sense.
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| Charles Sweeney 2005-05-18, 7:47 pm |
| Els wrote
> Was thinking the same thing - like Charles, I too did some tests, and
> I haven't found another site that gets a prefetch link. What I did
> find, is that if you do another search, and then go back with the back
> button to the ouka results, the prefetch link has moved to the <head>
> of the page, and isn't near the result anymore.
Weird.
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| Els <els.aNOSPAM@tiscali.nl> wrote in
<news:13ecc479qe3ah.ofcu9ibb4vqg.dlg@40tude.net>:
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> Was thinking the same thing - like Charles, I too did some tests,
> and I haven't found another site that gets a prefetch link.
For me, "mozilla", "opera", "microsoft", "gnome", "kde", and
"free software foundation" all cause Google to add prefetch links.
According to Google, "This tag is only inserted when it is likely
that the user will click on the first link."[1] How they determine
"likely", I dunno, but I'd guess they compare the top result's
pagerank to the other results' pageranks. I think when they first
started using prefetching, they used it on all results pages.[2]
> What I did find, is that if you do another search, and then go
> back with the back button to the ouka results, the prefetch link
> has moved to the <head> of the page, and isn't near the result
> anymore.
I can't reproduce that.
> Could it be they pay Google for such a link?
I guess it's possible, but I don't think that's what is happening.
It's hard to imagine the FSF or gnu.org paying Google for
a prefetch link.
FWIW, to make mozillan browsers ignore prefetch links, set the pref
network.prefetch-next to false.
[1] <http://www.google.com/webmasters/faq.html#prefetching>
[2] <http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2005...th-firefox.html<
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| Blinky the Shark 2005-05-19, 4:23 am |
| »Q« wrote:
> FWIW, to make mozillan browsers ignore prefetch links, set the pref
> network.prefetch-next to false.
<clickety>
Love that Lizard. :)
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| Charles Sweeney 2005-05-19, 8:14 am |
| »Q« wrote
> According to Google, "This tag is only inserted when it is likely
> that the user will click on the first link."
Thanks for the info Q. I would have thought it was *always* likely that
the user would click on the first link!
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| Steve Sobol 2005-05-23, 4:21 am |
| Charles Sweeney wrote:
> Thanks for the info Q. I would have thought it was *always* likely that
> the user would click on the first link!
I think it really depends. I may not click on the first link, especially
when I have a programming issue that needs resolved; in those cases, the
first link is often *not* the best one.
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| Charles Sweeney 2005-05-23, 7:56 am |
| Steve Sobol wrote
> Charles Sweeney wrote:
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> I think it really depends. I may not click on the first link,
> especially when I have a programming issue that needs resolved; in
> those cases, the first link is often *not* the best one.
Same here. However, in terms of "likely" to be clicked, I would think the
first result would be the most likely.
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