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weird problem on my site, please check

Els

2005-05-01, 7:37 pm

Hi all,

http://locusmeus.com/antwerp.html
When I refresh that page (or any other page with more images) it will
skip various images and/or stylesheets, and sometimes even the actual
html file, which results in a 404 (but not my custom 404).

Just to eliminate the possibility of it being a problem on my end
(even though I have no idea how), could some of you please check and
confirm this problem?

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- Renato Russo -
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Rob_W

2005-05-01, 7:37 pm

Els wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> http://locusmeus.com/antwerp.html
> When I refresh that page (or any other page with more images) it will
> skip various images and/or stylesheets, and sometimes even the actual
> html file, which results in a 404 (but not my custom 404).
>
> Just to eliminate the possibility of it being a problem on my end
> (even though I have no idea how), could some of you please check and
> confirm this problem?
>

I checked, and got the same result: some pics don't show.
Good luck
Rob

Els

2005-05-01, 7:37 pm

Rob_W wrote:

> Els wrote:
>
> I checked, and got the same result: some pics don't show.
> Good luck

Thanks :S

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neilr

2005-05-01, 7:37 pm

Els

2005-05-01, 7:37 pm

neilr wrote:

> "Els" <els.aNOSPAM@tiscali.nl> wrote in message
> news:4xu7p7dvwdio.1fxrd4bqxv20r.dlg@40tude.net...
>
> Yip - exhibiting all manner of strange activity. Some refreshed result in
> images not showing (different images each refresh). The menu system losing
> it's background cells. The main content pushed halfway down the page
> leaving an empty space above the content (roughly proportional to the height
> of the menu column which may be a factor). I found the page fairly slow to
> load.

It must be a problem on the server, as it happens on 3 different sites
on that server, but not on one site on a different server (same host).

--
Els http://locusmeus.com/
Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito.
- Renato Russo -
Now playing: Captain Sensible - Wot

Martin Harran

2005-05-01, 7:37 pm

"neilr" <neilr@NOSPAMpages-uk.com> wrote in message
news:42735db6$0$579$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net...
>
> "Els" <els.aNOSPAM@tiscali.nl> wrote in message
> news:4xu7p7dvwdio.1fxrd4bqxv20r.dlg@40tude.net...
>
> Yip - exhibiting all manner of strange activity. Some refreshed result in
> images not showing (different images each refresh). The menu system
> losing it's background cells. The main content pushed halfway down the
> page leaving an empty space above the content (roughly proportional to the
> height of the menu column which may be a factor). I found the page fairly
> slow to load.

Same here

Toby Inkster

2005-05-01, 7:37 pm

Els wrote:

> http://locusmeus.com/antwerp.html

Yep, I see the problem here too.

I then chose one of the thumbnail URLs and did a HTTP HEAD request for it
a few dozen times using libwww at the command line and got a 404 a few
times.

I've seen this happen a few times before with severely over-loaded Apache
servers.

Try creating this PHP file:

<?php
header("Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii");
system("uptime");
?>

and checking the load average at various times during the day.

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vMike

2005-05-01, 7:37 pm

"Els" <els.aNOSPAM@tiscali.nl> wrote in message
news:4xu7p7dvwdio.1fxrd4bqxv20r.dlg@40tude.net...
>
> Hi all,
>
> http://locusmeus.com/antwerp.html
> When I refresh that page (or any other page with more images) it will
> skip various images and/or stylesheets, and sometimes even the actual
> html file, which results in a 404 (but not my custom 404).
>
> Just to eliminate the possibility of it being a problem on my end
> (even though I have no idea how), could some of you please check and
> confirm this problem?
>
> --
> Els http://locusmeus.com/
> Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito.
> - Renato Russo -
> Now playing: Sharon Brown - I Specialize In Love (12")

Similar problem here even if a create a simple non css file like this
<html>
<body>
<div>
<img src="http://www.locusmeus.com/thumbs/Antwerp01_t.jpg" alt="Antwerp
2004">
<img src="http://www.locusmeus.com/thumbs/Antwerp02_t.jpg" alt="Antwerp
2004">
<img src="http://www.locusmeus.com/thumbs/Antwerp03_t.jpg" alt="Antwerp
2004">
</div>
</body>
</html>

But one oddity was if I right click the image and look at properties, I get
a windows xp security warning saying the file could access my computer.
Maybe that is your problem. I typically don't get that with images from
other jpg images from other sites.

Mike

Charles Sweeney

2005-05-01, 7:37 pm

Toby Inkster wrote

> I've seen this happen a few times before with severely over-loaded Apache
> servers.

According to whois.sc there's over 800 sites on the server, which could
mean anything really.

A little teething trouble for dotcanada (name from memory) perhaps?

--
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http://CharlesSweeney.com

Ignoramus19113

2005-05-01, 7:37 pm

I have the same problem...

i
On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:08:24 +0200, Els <els.aNOSPAM@tiscali.nl> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> http://locusmeus.com/antwerp.html
> When I refresh that page (or any other page with more images) it will
> skip various images and/or stylesheets, and sometimes even the actual
> html file, which results in a 404 (but not my custom 404).
>
> Just to eliminate the possibility of it being a problem on my end
> (even though I have no idea how), could some of you please check and
> confirm this problem?
>

--

Els

2005-05-01, 7:37 pm

Charles Sweeney wrote:

> Toby Inkster wrote
>

Could well be the cause.
[color=darkred]
> According to whois.sc there's over 800 sites on the server, which could
> mean anything really.

I don't remember that many sites being on there before, but that could
mean anything as well ;-)

> A little teething trouble for dotcanada (name from memory) perhaps?

I can understand 'a little teething trouble' if it would be a new
host, but as far as I'm informed they've been around long enough to
know what to do with servers. Also I've submitted a helpdesk ticket
this morning with priority 'high', but I haven't even had an
acknowledgement of receipt yet.

--
Els http://locusmeus.com/
Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito.
- Renato Russo -

Dylan Parry

2005-05-01, 7:37 pm

Els wrote:
> When I refresh that page (or any other page with more images) it will
> skip various images and/or stylesheets

I've been having the same problem today, and AFAIK we share the same host :\

--
Dylan Parry
http://webpageworkshop.co.uk -- FREE Web tutorials and references

Els

2005-05-01, 7:37 pm

Dylan Parry wrote:

> Els wrote:
>
> I've been having the same problem today, and AFAIK we share the same host :\

Which server are you on though? My sites on Eros have this problem,
but I have a site on Oberon, which is working flawlessly.
I've already moved one site to another host, and if the problem
persists, I'll do that with locusmeus.com too.

--
Els http://locusmeus.com/
Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito.
- Renato Russo -

Dylan Parry

2005-05-01, 7:37 pm

Els wrote:

> Which server are you on though? My sites on Eros have this problem,
> but I have a site on Oberon, which is working flawlessly.

Umbriel, but not for long.

> I've already moved one site to another host, and if the problem
> persists, I'll do that with locusmeus.com too.

Me too, or rather I am in the process of doing so. I've just ordered new
hosting from page zone.

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Dylan Parry
http://webpageworkshop.co.uk -- FREE Web tutorials and references

Els

2005-05-01, 7:37 pm

Dylan Parry wrote:

> Els wrote:
>
>
> Umbriel, but not for long.

Weird thing: if you just address the server directly by url, both
Umbriel and Eros get this page:
<html>
<iframe src='http://url-exchange.net' width=1 height=1></iframe>
<iframe src='http://www.crazy-toolbar.com/home/sergio/' width=1
height=1></iframe>
</html>
while Oberon shows the expected 'there is no web site configured at
this url'.

I really don't understand much about servers and hosting, but could
some servers be hijacked or something?

>
> Me too, or rather I am in the process of doing so. I've just ordered new
> hosting from page zone.

On what ground did you pick them? Do they have a good rep?
Prices seem very reasonable btw.

I see they use PayPal, but when I recently tried to register a domain
name with GoDaddy, the fact they use PayPal didn't help me, as they
only accepted PayPal users with credit cards. How's that with
Page-Zone, do you know?

--
Els http://locusmeus.com/
Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito.
- Renato Russo -

Dylan Parry

2005-05-01, 7:37 pm

Els wrote:

[Page-Zone]
> On what ground did you pick them? Do they have a good rep?
> Prices seem very reasonable btw.

They've been recommended here a few times. IIRC Heidi first recommended
them to me a couple of years back. I tend to trust the recommendations
of those I know :)

> How's that [Paypal] with Page-Zone, do you know?

I don't know about that, sorry. I paid by Mastercard.

--
Dylan Parry
http://webpageworkshop.co.uk -- FREE Web tutorials and references

Matt-the-Hoople

2005-05-01, 7:37 pm

Els wrote:

> Which server are you on though? My sites on Eros have this problem,
> but I have a site on Oberon, which is working flawlessly.

There's chatter on WHT about Eros being incredibly flakey. It could be
that you are having server issues.

- Matt

Els

2005-05-01, 7:37 pm

Dylan Parry wrote:

> Els wrote:
>
> [Page-Zone]
>
> They've been recommended here a few times. IIRC Heidi first recommended
> them to me a couple of years back. I tend to trust the recommendations
> of those I know :)

Makes sense :-)
The fact that she recommended them already a couple of years back, and
hasn't changed her mind, already means something.

>
> I don't know about that, sorry. I paid by Mastercard.

Everybody in the whole wide world has a credit card - but me :S

--
Els http://locusmeus.com/
Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito.
- Renato Russo -

Els

2005-05-01, 7:37 pm

Matt-the-Hoople wrote:

> Els wrote:
>
>
> There's chatter on WHT about Eros being incredibly flakey. It could be
> that you are having server issues.

I know it's server issues, but I don't know why. Thanks for the
pointer though, will pay a visit to WHT :-)

--
Els http://locusmeus.com/
Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito.
- Renato Russo -

Dylan Parry

2005-05-01, 7:37 pm

Els wrote:

[Paypal]
>
> Everybody in the whole wide world has a credit card - but me :S

Heh! I would have paid with Paypal if I had any balance on my account. I
just about had more money available on my CC :s

--
Dylan Parry
http://webpageworkshop.co.uk -- FREE Web tutorials and references

GreyWyvern

2005-05-01, 7:37 pm

On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 15:09:28 -0400, Els <els.aNOSPAM@tiscali.nl> wrote:

> Dylan Parry wrote:
>
>
> Makes sense :-)
> The fact that she recommended them already a couple of years back, and
> hasn't changed her mind, already means something.

Because I'd feel guilty if I didn't...

I'll mention that I've been hosted with Netfronts
<http://www.netfronts.com> for closing on four years without any major
incidents :) Great email response; sometimes I'd get a reply back in 15
minutes!

They cost a little more, and I've occasionally thought of switching
because of it, but then I hear all these horror stories from people on
so-called, "cost-effective" web hosts (*cough*AffordableHOST*cough*) and
realize I have absolutely nothing to complain about my current host's
reliability.

Grey

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Dylan Parry

2005-05-01, 7:37 pm

GreyWyvern wrote:

> I hear all these horror stories from people on so-called,
> "cost-effective" web hosts (*cough*AffordableHOST*cough*)

I can't really complain about AffordableHost... I've been with them for
just short of a year, but they've never seen a penny of my money (and
no, I am not using their free service).

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Dylan Parry
http://webpageworkshop.co.uk -- FREE Web tutorials and references

David Preston

2005-05-01, 7:37 pm

neilr wrote:
> "Els" <els.aNOSPAM@tiscali.nl> wrote

could some of you please check and
>
>
> Yip - exhibiting all manner of strange activity.

I even got a different style sheet with a sunflower(?) bg image!

--
David Preston
Now playing: The Arrows - A Touch Too Much

Els

2005-05-01, 7:37 pm

David Preston wrote:

> neilr wrote:
>
>
> I even got a different style sheet with a sunflower(?) bg image!

That's easy to explain: I never updated the <link>ed stylesheet I have
for NN4. Daisies (it's not a sunflower but a daisy ;-) ) was the first
version of my site, so if you see the daisy, the <link>ed stylesheet
was loaded, but the @imported one (which usually overrules the
<link>ed one) wasn't.

--
Els http://locusmeus.com/
Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito.
- Renato Russo -

Els

2005-05-01, 7:37 pm

Dylan Parry wrote:

> GreyWyvern wrote:
>
>
> I can't really complain about AffordableHost... I've been with them for
> just short of a year, but they've never seen a penny of my money (and
> no, I am not using their free service).

How's that then?
Well, they've never seen a penny of mine either, as I paid in
dollars... ;-)

--
Els http://locusmeus.com/
Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito.
- Renato Russo -

Els

2005-05-01, 7:37 pm

GreyWyvern wrote:

> On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 15:09:28 -0400, Els <els.aNOSPAM@tiscali.nl> wrote:
>
>
> Because I'd feel guilty if I didn't...
>
> I'll mention that I've been hosted with Netfronts
> <http://www.netfronts.com> for closing on four years without any major
> incidents :) Great email response; sometimes I'd get a reply back in 15
> minutes!
>
> They cost a little more,

yup - I'm actually contemplating a switch to a Dutch host, which is
about the same price as netfronts, but with a couple more features,
and of course the added advantage that I can just phone them up
without being charged international rates, and pay them by bank
transfer instead of having to top up PayPal first.

> and I've occasionally thought of switching
> because of it, but then I hear all these horror stories from people on
> so-called, "cost-effective" web hosts (*cough*AffordableHOST*cough*) and
> realize I have absolutely nothing to complain about my current host's
> reliability.

I never had problems with AH until now though, on the contrary, if I
wanted extra space or a change of plan, I'd just pop into the chat,
and it would be done in 5 minutes.

--
Els http://locusmeus.com/
Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito.
- Renato Russo -

Dylan Parry

2005-05-01, 7:37 pm

Els wrote:

> How's that then?

Do you remember a while back when they had an offer of an account for
$0.01? Well I signed up, but my credit card couldn't be debited due to 1
cent being ~£0.005! Tina said that as it was only 1 cent, it didn't
matter and I could have the account anyway :)

--
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http://webpageworkshop.co.uk -- FREE Web tutorials and references

Els

2005-05-01, 7:37 pm

Dylan Parry wrote:

> Els wrote:
>
>
> Do you remember a while back when they had an offer of an account for
> $0.01?

Nope :-)

> Well I signed up, but my credit card couldn't be debited due to 1
> cent being ~£0.005! Tina said that as it was only 1 cent, it didn't
> matter and I could have the account anyway :)

How generous! <g>

--
Els http://locusmeus.com/
Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito.
- Renato Russo -

William Tasso

2005-05-01, 7:37 pm

On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 21:37:07 +0100, Els <els.aNOSPAM@tiscali.nl> wrote:

> GreyWyvern wrote:
>
>
> yup - I'm actually contemplating a switch to a Dutch host, which is
> about the same price as netfronts, but with a couple more features,
> and of course the added advantage that I can just phone them up
> without being charged international rates, and pay them by bank
> transfer instead of having to top up PayPal first.

There's a lot to be said for doing business with people you can
o Talk to
o Have a beer with
o Go round and thump :)

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