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| Matt Probert 2005-12-27, 3:32 am |
| Further to Steve's post I took a look to see what he meant.
Anyway, this Browserhawk (http://www.cyscape.com) claims
"makes it easy for professional web developers to build high impact
sites that reach the widest possible audience, while ensuring a
Flawless Web Experience for every visitor regardless of their browser
settings and system capabilities"
so I was most amused (sic) that in my non-full screen Browser window
their site scrolls.
Perhaps they should like to be taught about web design ? (Check the
source code. Fixed width and convoluted nested tables used for
layout).
Matt
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| John Bokma 2005-12-27, 3:32 am |
| comments@probertencyclopaedia.com (Matt Probert) wrote:
> Further to Steve's post I took a look to see what he meant.
>
> Anyway, this Browserhawk (http://www.cyscape.com) claims
>
> "makes it easy for professional web developers to build high impact
> sites that reach the widest possible audience, while ensuring a
> Flawless Web Experience for every visitor regardless of their browser
> settings and system capabilities"
>
> so I was most amused (sic) that in my non-full screen Browser window
> their site scrolls.
>
> Perhaps they should like to be taught about web design ? (Check the
> source code. Fixed width and convoluted nested tables used for
> layout).
Look at their list of customers. Ain't it fun that people who don't worry
too much have all the big customers?
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| Brian Wakem 2005-12-27, 6:28 am |
| Matt Probert wrote:
> Further to Steve's post I took a look to see what he meant.
>
> Anyway, this Browserhawk (http://www.cyscape.com) claims
>
> "makes it easy for professional web developers to build high impact
> sites that reach the widest possible audience, while ensuring a
> Flawless Web Experience for every visitor regardless of their browser
> settings and system capabilities"
>
> so I was most amused (sic) that in my non-full screen Browser window
> their site scrolls.
>
> Perhaps they should like to be taught about web design ? (Check the
> source code. Fixed width and convoluted nested tables used for
> layout).
>
I went to the order page and got this:
<quote>
Unsupported browser type
Your web browser is: Konqueror. This order system requires an IE, Netscape,
Opera, Mozilla, Safari, or Firefox browser. Please return to this page
using one of these supported browsers.
</quote>
Absolutely hilarious.
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| comments@probertencyclopaedia.com (Matt Probert) wrote in
<news:43b0e5bc.62800843@news.ntlworld.com>:
> Anyway, this Browserhawk (http://www.cyscape.com) claims
>
> "makes it easy for professional web developers to build high impact
> sites that reach the widest possible audience, while ensuring a
> Flawless Web Experience for every visitor regardless of their browser
> settings and system capabilities"
That text is exactly where the page looks the worst in my browser.
<http://www.cotse.net/users/putty/images/browserhawk.png>
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| Matt Probert 2005-12-27, 7:03 pm |
| On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 10:34:58 +0000, Brian Wakem <no@email.com> wrote:
> Matt Probert wrote:
>
>
>
> I went to the order page and got this:
>
> <quote>
> Unsupported browser type
>
> Your web browser is: Konqueror. This order system requires an IE, Netscape,
> Opera, Mozilla, Safari, or Firefox browser. Please return to this page
> using one of these supported browsers.
> </quote>
>
>
> Absolutely hilarious.
Magic!
"Flawless Web Experience for every visitor regardless of their
browser" so long as it's a contemporary, mainstream Windows browser!
Matt
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| Matt Probert 2005-12-27, 7:03 pm |
| On 27 Dec 2005 07:42:49 GMT, John Bokma <john@castleamber.com> wrote:
> Look at their list of customers. Ain't it fun that people who don't worry
> too much have all the big customers?
Did you contact the "customers" to establish if they really are
customers? A lot of companies falsely claim patronage from others to
promote themselves.
Matt
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| Beauregard T. Shagnasty 2005-12-27, 7:03 pm |
| Matt Probert wrote:
> Further to Steve's post I took a look to see what he meant.
>
> Anyway, this Browserhawk (http://www.cyscape.com) claims
"Accurately detects every visitor's browser and system settings"
Heh. It only reads the UA string. I am *not* using a Mac. What a sham.
An expensive sham.
> Perhaps they should like to be taught about web design ? (Check the
> source code. Fixed width and convoluted nested tables used for
> layout).
Soooo many web design companies have no clue. The main page:
<http://validator.w3.org/check?verbo...aspx%3Fbhjs%3D0>
"Failed validation, 42 errors"
...and the CSS validator chokes.
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| Norman L. DeForest 2005-12-27, 7:03 pm |
|
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005, Matt Probert wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 10:34:58 +0000, Brian Wakem <no@email.com> wrote:
>
>
> Magic!
>
> "Flawless Web Experience for every visitor regardless of their
> browser" so long as it's a contemporary, mainstream Windows browser!
They don't like Lynx either.
Norman, wondering if he should try Firefox with it set to fake Lynx. :)
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computer virus." -- Big Will in alt.comp.virus, March 9, 2005
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| John Bokma 2005-12-27, 7:03 pm |
| comments@probertencyclopaedia.com (Matt Probert) wrote:
> On 27 Dec 2005 07:42:49 GMT, John Bokma <john@castleamber.com> wrote:
>
>
> Did you contact the "customers" to establish if they really are
> customers? A lot of companies falsely claim patronage from others to
> promote themselves.
If they are lying, they do have a lot of coverage:
<http://www.google.com/search?q=browserhawk>
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| John Bokma 2005-12-27, 7:03 pm |
| "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid> wrote:
> Soooo many web design companies have no clue. The main page:
But how many of those clueless have customers, even big customers?
It worries me now and then :-D.
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| Brian Wakem 2005-12-27, 7:03 pm |
| Matt Probert wrote:
> Further to Steve's post I took a look to see what he meant.
>
> Anyway, this Browserhawk (http://www.cyscape.com) claims
>
> "makes it easy for professional web developers to build high impact
> sites that reach the widest possible audience, while ensuring a
> Flawless Web Experience for every visitor regardless of their browser
> settings and system capabilities"
>
> so I was most amused (sic) that in my non-full screen Browser window
> their site scrolls.
>
> Perhaps they should like to be taught about web design ? (Check the
> source code. Fixed width and convoluted nested tables used for
> layout).
>
It seems you can test it at http://www.cyscape.com/showbrow.aspx
It is not very accurate though.
Gecko : True # this is wrong, Konqueror uses the KHTML rendering engine.
IFrames: False # incorrect
Proxy : False # incorrect
OSName : Not detectable with this browser # it's clearly stated in the UA
And for almost everything else is simply says 'Not detectable with this
browser'
Why people pay money for stuff like this is beyond me.
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| Baho Utot 2005-12-27, 7:05 pm |
| On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 18:24:13 +0000, Beauregard T. Shagnasty shouted
Hoy......
>
> Matt Probert wrote:
>
>
> "Accurately detects every visitor's browser and system settings"
>
> Heh. It only reads the UA string. I am *not* using a Mac. What a sham.
> An expensive sham.
>
>
> Soooo many web design companies have no clue. The main page:
>
> <http://validator.w3.org/check?verbo...aspx%3Fbhjs%3D0>
> "Failed validation, 42 errors"
> ..and the CSS validator chokes.
I like this
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
Using HTML 4.01 and XML namespaces in the same document.
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| Baho Utot 2005-12-27, 7:05 pm |
| On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 19:00:57 +0000, Brian Wakem shouted Hoy......
>
>
> Matt Probert wrote:
>
>
>
> It seems you can test it at http://www.cyscape.com/showbrow.aspx
>
> It is not very accurate though.
>
> Gecko : True # this is wrong, Konqueror uses the KHTML rendering engine.
> IFrames: False # incorrect
> Proxy : False # incorrect
> OSName : Not detectable with this browser # it's clearly stated in the UA
>
> And for almost everything else is simply says 'Not detectable with this
> browser'
>
> Why people pay money for stuff like this is beyond me.
It's because they drink the kool aid.
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| Baho Utot 2005-12-27, 7:05 pm |
| On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 17:57:53 +0000, Matt Probert shouted Hoy......
>
>
> On 27 Dec 2005 07:42:49 GMT, John Bokma <john@castleamber.com> wrote:
>
>
> Did you contact the "customers" to establish if they really are
> customers? A lot of companies falsely claim patronage from others to
> promote themselves.
>
> Matt
Of course he didn't
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| John Bokma 2005-12-27, 10:35 pm |
| Baho Utot <onub-hgbg@pbyhzohf.ee.pbz> wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 17:57:53 +0000, Matt Probert shouted Hoy......
>
>
> Of course he didn't
Too busy porting microkernels, sorry.
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| William Tasso 2005-12-27, 10:35 pm |
| Writing in news:alt.www.webmaster
From the safety of the The Probert Encyclopaedia cafeteria
Matt Probert <comments@probertencyclopaedia.com> said:
> Further to Steve's post I took a look to see what he meant.
>
> Anyway, this Browserhawk (http://www.cyscape.com) claims ...
Crikey - are they still around? Haven't seen any reference to browserhawk
since ... hrm IE3/IE4/NN4 - when would that be? last century perhaps?
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| Blinky the Shark 2005-12-28, 3:44 am |
| William Tasso wrote:
> Writing in news:alt.www.webmaster
> From the safety of the The Probert Encyclopaedia cafeteria
> Matt Probert <comments@probertencyclopaedia.com> said:
>
>
> Crikey - are they still around? Haven't seen any reference to browserhawk
> since ... hrm IE3/IE4/NN4 - when would that be? last century perhaps?
Perhaps even the last millennium! ;)
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