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| Alan Little 2005-10-13, 10:22 pm |
| Woo hoo! I finally got tired of the mess lurking behind the pretty face of
my web site, and got it all cleaned up and templated and CSS'd and tables
removed.
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=h...ww.phorm.com%2F
(Just don't look in the /register directory yet :)
The only problem is that my drop-caps sink. The first one on the page is
properly lined up, but subsequent ones get lower and lower.
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Alan Little
Phorm PHP Form Processor
http://www.phorm.com/
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| Duende 2005-10-13, 10:22 pm |
| On 13 Oct 2005 Alan Little wrote in alt.www.webmaster
> The only problem is that my drop-caps sink. The first one on the page is
> properly lined up, but subsequent ones get lower and lower.
Try playing around with vertical-align:
..Cap:first-letter {
font-family: georgia, times, serif;
vertical-align: inherit;
font-size: 250%;
}
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D?
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| William Tasso 2005-10-13, 10:22 pm |
| Writing in news:alt.www.webmaster
From the safety of the Holotech Enterprises cafeteria
Alan Little <alan@n-o-s-p-a-m-phorm.com> said:
> Woo hoo! I finally got tired of the mess lurking behind the pretty face
> of
> my web site, and got it all cleaned up and templated and CSS'd and tables
> removed.
yee haa :)
> http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=h...ww.phorm.com%2F
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=h...nline&outline=1
<q>
Outline
Below is an outline for this document, automatically generated from the
heading tags (<h1> through <h6>.)
If this does not look like a real outline, it is likely that the heading
tags are not being used properly. (Headings should reflect the logical
structure of the document; they should not be used simply to add emphasis,
or to change the font size.)
</q>
> (Just don't look in the /register directory yet :)
ok
> The only problem is that my drop-caps sink. The first one on the page is
> properly lined up, but subsequent ones get lower and lower.
they look just fine here (Opera)
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William Tasso
virtue is its own punishment
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| Mark Parnell 2005-10-13, 10:22 pm |
| In our last episode, William Tasso <SpamBlocked@tbdata.com> pronounced
to alt.www.webmaster:
> Writing in news:alt.www.webmaster
> From the safety of the Holotech Enterprises cafeteria
> Alan Little <alan@n-o-s-p-a-m-phorm.com> said:
>
>
> they look just fine here (Opera)
Here too (FF and IE6).
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Mark Parnell
http://clarkecomputers.com.au
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| Alan Little 2005-10-13, 10:22 pm |
| Carved in mystic runes upon the very living rock, the last words of
William Tasso of alt.www.webmaster make plain:
> Writing in news:alt.www.webmaster
> From the safety of the Holotech Enterprises cafeteria
> Alan Little <alan@n-o-s-p-a-m-phorm.com> said:
>
>
> yee haa :)
>
>
> http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=h....com%2F&charset
> =%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&outline=1
>
> <q>
> Outline
Yeah, that's the next concept for me to master. For a document that's
more...documentary, I can understand it, but how would I use <H#> tags
on, say, the first page of my site?
>
> they look just fine here (Opera)
OK, I thought I saw it in Opera, but I was comparing the position of the
first 'W' next to an 'e', which doesn't have an ascender, with the second
'W', next to an 'h', which does, and the same for the 'T' in the third
para.
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Alan Little
Phorm PHP Form Processor
http://www.phorm.com/
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| Alan Little 2005-10-13, 10:22 pm |
| Carved in mystic runes upon the very living rock, the last words of Alan
Little of alt.www.webmaster make plain:
> Carved in mystic runes upon the very living rock, the last words of
> William Tasso of alt.www.webmaster make plain:
>
>
>
> OK, I thought I saw it in Opera, but I was comparing the position of
> the first 'W' next to an 'e', which doesn't have an ascender, with the
> second 'W', next to an 'h', which does, and the same for the 'T' in
> the third para.
Urg. Actually, looking again, it appears that all the browsers are
rendering it correctly; it was just the optical illusion with the
ascenders that was throwing me off. I could have sworn it was more
pronounced than that, though. Oh well!
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Alan Little
Phorm PHP Form Processor
http://www.phorm.com/
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| William Tasso 2005-10-13, 10:23 pm |
| Writing in news:alt.www.webmaster
From the safety of the Holotech Enterprises cafeteria
Alan Little <alan@n-o-s-p-a-m-phorm.com> said:
> but how would I use <H#> tags
> on, say, the first page of my site?
<h1>... is the main heading for the page.
So, work out what the page is about and bingo - there's your <h1> -
possibly a similar process to deciding on a <title>
Logically the <h1> is likely to be the very first element on your page.
<div id="Header">
<h1><img src="/graphics/title.gif" alt="PHP Form Processor">
<img src="/graphics/phorm.gif" alt=""></h1>
</div>
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William Tasso
virtue is its own punishment
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| Alan Little 2005-10-13, 10:23 pm |
| Carved in mystic runes upon the very living rock, the last words of John
Bokma of alt.www.webmaster make plain:
> Duende <myusenet@sify.com> wrote:
>
>
> Welcome back, or do I just read to little aww?
D's posted 23 times since September 18; his last post before that was
February 4.
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Alan Little
Phorm PHP Form Processor
http://www.phorm.com/
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| Alan Little 2005-10-13, 10:23 pm |
| Carved in mystic runes upon the very living rock, the last words of
William Tasso of alt.www.webmaster make plain:
> Writing in news:alt.www.webmaster
> From the safety of the Holotech Enterprises cafeteria
> Alan Little <alan@n-o-s-p-a-m-phorm.com> said:
>
>
> <h1>... is the main heading for the page.
>
> So, work out what the page is about and bingo - there's your <h1> -
> possibly a similar process to deciding on a <title>
>
> Logically the <h1> is likely to be the very first element on your page.
>
> <div id="Header">
> <h1><img src="/graphics/title.gif" alt="PHP Form Processor">
> <img src="/graphics/phorm.gif" alt=""></h1>
> </div>
OK; would I then use H2 tags inside the Content, Ads and Footer DIVs, and
H3 inside the Links DIV?
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Alan Little
Phorm PHP Form Processor
http://www.phorm.com/
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| William Tasso 2005-10-13, 10:23 pm |
| Writing in news:alt.www.webmaster
From the safety of the Holotech Enterprises cafeteria
Alan Little <alan@n-o-s-p-a-m-phorm.com> said:
> Carved in mystic runes upon the very living rock, the last words of
> William Tasso of alt.www.webmaster make plain:
>
>
> OK; would I then use H2 tags inside the Content, Ads and Footer DIVs, and
> H3 inside the Links DIV?
Well - I would have gone on to describe h2, h3 etc. but couldn't really
see anyplace they were needed to make sense.
So (hypothetically speaking) if we were to add sub-headings to the logical
areas of that page then yes, the outline may look something like this ...
<h1>PHP Form Processor</h1>
<h2>All About Phorm</h2>
<p>...
<h2>More Info about Phorm</h2>
<a...>...
etc.
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William Tasso
virtue is its own punishment
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| Dylan Parry 2005-10-14, 6:45 am |
| Using a pointed stick and pebbles, Alan Little scraped:
> his last post before that was February 4.
As Duende maybe.
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Dylan Parry
http://webpageworkshop.co.uk -- FREE Web tutorials and references
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"Alan Little" <alan@n-o-s-p-a-m-phorm.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96EEC4582BC0Aalanphormcom@216.196.97.131...
> Woo hoo! I finally got tired of the mess lurking behind the pretty face of
> my web site, and got it all cleaned up and templated and CSS'd and tables
> removed.
>
> http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=h...ww.phorm.com%2F
>
> (Just don't look in the /register directory yet :)
>
> The only problem is that my drop-caps sink. The first one on the page is
> properly lined up, but subsequent ones get lower and lower.
It even looks good in my Spry browser
http://www.page-zone.com/spry.jpg
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| Alan Little 2005-10-28, 6:40 pm |
| Carved in mystic runes upon the very living rock, the last words of Jim
of alt.www.webmaster make plain:
>
> "Alan Little" <alan@n-o-s-p-a-m-phorm.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns96EEC4582BC0Aalanphormcom@216.196.97.131...
>
> It even looks good in my Spry browser
>
> http://www.page-zone.com/spry.jpg
Interesting; I'd not heard of that one. It looks like it doesn't do CSS
or background images.
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Alan Little
Phorm PHP Form Processor
http://www.phorm.com/
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| mbstevens 2005-10-28, 6:40 pm |
| Alan Little wrote:
> Carved in mystic runes upon the very living rock, the last words of Jim
> of alt.www.webmaster make plain:
>
>
> ...............
Congratulations.
When I did that it felt like having the pistons, crankshaft, and valves
scattered all over the garage floor, and I couldn't remember where the
torque wrench was.
Well worth the trouble, though, wasn't it?
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| William Tasso 2005-10-28, 6:40 pm |
| Writing in news:alt.www.webmaster
From the safety of the EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net cafeteria
mbstevens <NOXwebmasterx@xmbstevensx.com> said:
> Alan Little wrote:
>
> Congratulations.
>
> When I did that it felt like having the pistons, crankshaft, and valves
> scattered all over the garage floor, and I couldn't remember where the
> torque wrench was.
Aye, but simply knowing one is looking for a Torque Wrench is a big step
in the right direction.
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William Tasso
virtue is its own punishment
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| trevor 2005-10-28, 6:42 pm |
| >>> http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=h...ww.phorm.com%2F
stylesheet validates too. welcome to the club!
[color=darkred]
ok.
[color=darkred]
notice your font is larger than the line height. i think you have a
conflict between p:first-letter and your Cap:first-letter ID. just let
p:first-letter do the work for you and get rid of the Cap:first-letter.
remove the float from first-letter by using text-align:left in your content
ID.
THEN take all of your fonts out of px and take them to em. THEN you are
within a fair's breadth of taking it XHTML.
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| GreyWyvern 2005-10-28, 6:42 pm |
| And lo, trevor didst speak in alt.www.webmaster:
> THEN take all of your fonts out of px and take them to em. THEN you are
> within a fair's breadth of taking it XHTML.
I don't know... fairs are pretty wide.
Grey
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pitfall corollary that nothing is ridiculous.
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and site-search engine
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| trevor 2005-10-28, 6:42 pm |
| > I don't know... fairs are pretty wide.
>
> Grey
>
oh for the love of....
*sigh*
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| Alan Little 2005-10-29, 6:30 pm |
| Carved in mystic runes upon the very living rock, the last words of
mbstevens of alt.www.webmaster make plain:
> Alan Little wrote:
>
> Congratulations.
>
> When I did that it felt like having the pistons, crankshaft, and
> valves scattered all over the garage floor, and I couldn't remember
> where the torque wrench was.
Yeah, something like that. :)
> Well worth the trouble, though, wasn't it?
Yep.
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Alan Little
Phorm PHP Form Processor
http://www.phorm.com/
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| Alan Little 2005-10-29, 6:30 pm |
| Carved in mystic runes upon the very living rock, the last words of
trevor of alt.www.webmaster make plain:
>
>
> stylesheet validates too. welcome to the club!
>
>
> ok.
>
>
> notice your font is larger than the line height.
To be honest, that's a MSMD. I just copied that from somewhere, and
tweaked it; it's not entirely clear to me what it's doing. Anyway, it
turned out the caps aren't sinking, it was just my eyes playing tricks
on me.
> i think you have a conflict between p:first-letter and your
> Cap:first-letter ID. just let p:first-letter do the work for you and
> get rid of the Cap:first-letter.
The p:first-letter is commented out. I discovered there were some
paragraphs I didn't want with drop-caps, so I created the Caps class.
> remove the float from first-letter by using text-align:left in your
> content ID.
But I want it justified.
> THEN take all of your fonts out of px and take them to em.
I normally work with ems, but I couldn't get it to work with this.
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Alan Little
Phorm PHP Form Processor
http://www.phorm.com/
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| Charles Sweeney 2005-10-29, 6:31 pm |
| mbstevens wrote
> When I did that it felt like having the pistons, crankshaft, and valves
> scattered all over the garage floor, and I couldn't remember where the
> torque wrench was.
Torque wrenches are for girls! (He said with a torque wrench in his
toolbox!)
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Charles Sweeney
http://CharlesSweeney.com
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| Alan Little 2005-10-29, 6:32 pm |
| Carved in mystic runes upon the very living rock, the last words of
Charles Sweeney of alt.www.webmaster make plain:
> mbstevens wrote
>
>
> Torque wrenches are for girls!
Hm, I never tried that one....
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Alan Little
Phorm PHP Form Processor
http://www.phorm.com/
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