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Advantage of an IP Address?
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| Auerbach 2005-01-28, 7:43 pm |
| Some web hosting outfits include an IP address address with an account,
others charge a buck or two per month to add one.
What are the reasons one would want or need an IP address?
Alex
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| Gregory Toomey 2005-01-28, 7:43 pm |
| Auerbach wrote:
> Some web hosting outfits include an IP address address with an account,
> others charge a buck or two per month to add one.
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> What are the reasons one would want or need an IP address?
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> Alex
Err, its useful if you want to access the web, email, etc.
What a strange question.
gtoomey
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| Chris Hope 2005-01-28, 7:43 pm |
| Gregory Toomey wrote:
> Auerbach wrote:
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> Err, its useful if you want to access the web, email, etc.
> What a strange question.
I think the OP was probably meaning an IP address for your domain only,
as opposed to a shared IP address that is used for many domains.
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Chris Hope - The Electric Toolbox - http://www.electrictoolbox.com/
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| Tina - AffordableHOST, Inc. 2005-01-28, 7:43 pm |
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"Auerbach" <auerbach_no_spam@no_spam_pacbell.net> wrote in message
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> Some web hosting outfits include an IP address address with an account,
> others charge a buck or two per month to add one.
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> What are the reasons one would want or need an IP address?
SSL is probably one of the very few reasons. Some people will argue that
its good for search engine listings...and cite a reason such as "as soon as
I got my own IP, I shot to #1 in Google!". The search engine reason has
never been proven.
--Tina
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| Richard 2005-01-28, 7:43 pm |
| On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 02:37:34 GMT Auerbach wrote:
> Some web hosting outfits include an IP address address with an account,
> others charge a buck or two per month to add one.
> What are the reasons one would want or need an IP address?
> Alex
Security reasons probably.
Specially if you take credit cards.
Other than that, a shared IP works just the same.
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| Richard 2005-01-28, 7:43 pm |
| On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:43:09 +1000 Gregory Toomey wrote:
> Auerbach wrote:
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> Err, its useful if you want to access the web, email, etc.
> What a strange question.
> gtoomey
Strange to you only because you do not understand how it works.
You are under the impression that only one domain can exist per IP.
This is not true.
I have no idea what the limit is on domain names is per IP, but I do know it
is highly possible with a webserver.
The IP is merely a reference point.
Traffic is routed to that IP.
The webserver determines to which domain the traffic goes.
Think of a webserver as a telephone switchboard.
As you call in to some company who has thousands of phones, you ask to speak
to John Smith at extension 1204.
Does that person come to the switchboard to talk to you?
No. You are conveniently routed to their phone.
The IP is the phone number you dialed, the domain name is the extension.
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| Duende 2005-01-28, 7:43 pm |
| While sitting in a puddle Richard scribbled in the mud:
> The IP is the phone number you dialed,
So I have to dial up the IP number?
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http://hostingforabuck.com/
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| Toby Inkster 2005-01-28, 7:43 pm |
| Auerbach wrote:
> What are the reasons one would want or need an IP address?
* SSL;
* People may be able to access your site even when your DNS is borked.
For a website, those are the only two advantages I can think of.
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Toby A Inkster BSc (Hons) ARCS
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| William Tasso 2005-01-28, 7:43 pm |
| Duende wrote:
> While sitting in a puddle Richard scribbled in the mud:
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> So I have to dial up the IP number?
Then receive a whole heap of binary noise before you get through and
don't forget the dodgy ritual of the 1.1 hand-shake
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William Tasso
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| William Tasso 2005-01-28, 7:43 pm |
| Toby Inkster wrote:
> Auerbach wrote:
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> * SSL;
> * People may be able to access your site even when your DNS is borked.
rDNS needs an ip to work - however not many networks use it and AOL only
checks that there is a domain record - doesn't have to match.
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William Tasso
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| Auerbach 2005-01-28, 7:43 pm |
| "Toby Inkster" <usenet200501@tobyinkster.co.uk> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.01.27.08.22.06.322627@tobyinkster.co.uk...
> Auerbach wrote:
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> * SSL;
> * People may be able to access your site even when your DNS is borked.
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> For a website, those are the only two advantages I can think of.
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> Toby A Inkster BSc (Hons) ARCS
> Contact Me ~ http://tobyinkster.co.uk/contact
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Thanks!
Alex
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| Richard 2005-01-28, 7:43 pm |
| On 27 Jan 2005 08:01:00 GMT Duende wrote:
> While sitting in a puddle Richard scribbled in the mud:
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> So I have to dial up the IP number?
Yep. And do be sure to pay the phone bill.
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| Richard wrote:
: Strange to you only because you do not understand how it works.
: You are under the impression that only one domain can exist per IP.
: This is not true.
: I have no idea what the limit is on domain names is per IP, but I do
: know it is highly possible with a webserver.
: The IP is merely a reference point.
: Traffic is routed to that IP.
: The webserver determines to which domain the traffic goes.
: Think of a webserver as a telephone switchboard.
: As you call in to some company who has thousands of phones, you ask
: to speak to John Smith at extension 1204.
: Does that person come to the switchboard to talk to you?
: No. You are conveniently routed to their phone.
: The IP is the phone number you dialed, the domain name is the
: extension.
That is an excellent way to put it. Can I use that, if you don't mind, to
explain
how it works to my less net savvy friends...?
Heidi
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| Toby Inkster 2005-01-28, 7:43 pm |
| Richard wrote:
> I have no idea what the limit is on domain names is per IP, but I do know it
> is highly possible with a webserver.
> The IP is merely a reference point.
> Traffic is routed to that IP.
> The webserver determines to which domain the traffic goes.
> Think of a webserver as a telephone switchboard.
> As you call in to some company who has thousands of phones, you ask to speak
> to John Smith at extension 1204.
> Does that person come to the switchboard to talk to you?
> No. You are conveniently routed to their phone.
In reality, the way virtual hosts (i.e. hosting websites for multiple
domains to one IP address) work it is more like the whole company stand
around by the switchboard and when there's a phone call, the operator asks
you who you want to talk to and hands the phone to them.
What you describe is possible to do -- server farm behind a NAT with a
smart reverse proxy dishing out the pages -- but I can't imagine it's very
common.
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Toby A Inkster BSc (Hons) ARCS
Contact Me ~ http://tobyinkster.co.uk/contact
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| Kojo@johnson.com 2005-01-28, 7:44 pm |
| Sounds again like no one knows.
I'll try it out as always and find out.
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:54:25 GMT, "Auerbach"
<auerbach_no_spam@no_spam_pacbell.net> wrote:
>"Toby Inkster" <usenet200501@tobyinkster.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:pan.2005.01.27.08.22.06.322627@tobyinkster.co.uk...
>Thanks!
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>Alex
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| Jerry Stuckle 2005-01-31, 4:44 am |
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Kojo@johnson.com wrote:
> Sounds again like no one knows.
> I'll try it out as always and find out.
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No, Toby is right on. For a personal (non-shared) SSL certificate, you
need your own IP address. And to access your web site by IP address,
you need your own IP address.
There are no other valid reasons for needing an IP address.
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Jerry
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| Toby Inkster 2005-01-31, 7:27 am |
| Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> There are no other valid reasons for needing an IP address.
Well, there are, but not in a web-hosting context.
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Toby A Inkster BSc (Hons) ARCS
Contact Me ~ http://tobyinkster.co.uk/contact
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