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[OT] Johnny Carson, late-night TV legend, dead at 79
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| SpaceGirl wrote:
> Viper wrote:
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> *shrugs* who?
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> Okay yes I heard of him. But he was never on TV outside of the US.
So? He was still King of Late Night :)
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| TechnoHippie 2005-01-23, 7:20 pm |
| yawn ...
Oh, Viper. Thank you! I wouldn't know what was happening in the world
without your breaking-news alerts ... or how to feel about it all
without your direction and guidance. Please keep us informed! We need
to know! The truth will set us free!!!
Guess who's back?
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| TechnoHippie wrote:
> yawn ...
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> Oh, Viper. Thank you! I wouldn't know what was happening in the
> world without your breaking-news alerts ... or how to feel about it
> all without your direction and guidance. Please keep us informed!
> We need to know! The truth will set us free!!!
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> Guess who's back?
No difference between my post and Matts top 10 and Tobys stats... atleast I
put OT in the subject.
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| Eric Jarvis 2005-01-23, 7:20 pm |
| TechnoHippie technohippie@myway.com wrote:
> yawn ...
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> Oh, Viper. Thank you! I wouldn't know what was happening in the world
> without your breaking-news alerts ... or how to feel about it all
> without your direction and guidance. Please keep us informed! We need
> to know! The truth will set us free!!!
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> Guess who's back?
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Irony Girl?
It's OK, your secret identity is safe with us.
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eric
www.ericjarvis.co.uk
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| Viper <venomx@XXXXXXXXXX> wrote:
> RIP Mr. Carson
> http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/TV/...n.ap/index.html
This guy made me sleepy every Wednesday-Saturday morning till 1992. I
don't regret a thing.
Even if you don't know him as a performer, you've seen plenty of
people who were influenced by him and his show. Major figure in the
history of television.
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| William Tasso 2005-01-23, 11:18 pm |
| Eric Jarvis wrote:
> TechnoHippie technohippie@myway.com wrote:
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> Irony Girl?
What? We have an ironing lady? Why wasn't I informed sooner?
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| William Tasso 2005-01-23, 11:18 pm |
| Viper wrote:
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> No difference between my post and Matts top 10 and Tobys stats...
Yes there is. Frankly I don't give a flying fcuk about American TV nor
anyone who is 'famous' simply for being on it.
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William Tasso
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| Viper 2005-01-23, 11:18 pm |
| William Tasso wrote:
> Viper wrote:
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> Yes there is. Frankly I don't give a flying fcuk about American TV
> nor anyone who is 'famous' simply for being on it.
Mr Carson gave us many many famous people who may have NEVER been famous if
they hadnt been on his show.
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| Eric Jarvis 2005-01-23, 11:18 pm |
| William Tasso SpamBlocked@tbData.com wrote:
> Eric Jarvis wrote:
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> What? We have an ironing lady? Why wasn't I informed sooner?
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Nonononono!
The ironing is done by New Deal Boy, apparently it teaches him how to
compete in the modern information and technology led work force.
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eric
www.ericjarvis.co.uk
"live fast, die only if strictly necessary"
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| William Tasso <SpamBlocked@tbData.com> wrote:
> Viper wrote:
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> Yes there is. Frankly I don't give a flying fcuk about American TV
> nor anyone who is 'famous' simply for being on it.
Well, if you give even a slightly leaping XXXX about interview-based
entertainment TV, you have Mr. Carson to thank for setting the
standard against which all are judged.
Of course, if you do not, that's another thing.
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| Charles Sweeney 2005-01-23, 11:18 pm |
| Eric Jarvis wrote
> The ironing is done by New Deal Boy
Do you remember the "Not the nine o'clock news" sketch with the Y.O.P lad
on top of the police car making siren-like wails?!
Thought it was a hoot myself. (pardon the pun)
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| GreyWyvern 2005-01-23, 11:18 pm |
| On 23 Jan 2005 14:44:25 -0800, TechnoHippie <technohippie@myway.com> wrote:
> yawn ...
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> Oh, Viper. Thank you! I wouldn't know what was happening in the world
> without your breaking-news alerts ... or how to feel about it all
> without your direction and guidance. Please keep us informed! We need
> to know! The truth will set us free!!!
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> Guess who's back?
OMG... Mulder and Scully!?!?!?!
Grey
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| Eric Jarvis 2005-01-23, 11:18 pm |
| Charles Sweeney me@charlessweeney.com wrote:
> Eric Jarvis wrote
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> Do you remember the "Not the nine o'clock news" sketch with the Y.O.P lad
> on top of the police car making siren-like wails?!
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> Thought it was a hoot myself. (pardon the pun)
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Yes, though actually I was thinking more of the My Hero episode where
Thermo Man goes on strike and is replaced by Work Experience Boy whose
super power is to be able to make tea. That and the sort of crap work
experience that New Deal programmes offer.
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eric
www.ericjarvis.co.uk
"live fast, die only if strictly necessary"
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| Matt Probert 2005-01-24, 7:20 am |
| Once upon a time, far far away, the king summoned "Viper"
<venomx@XXXXXXXXXX> who replied:
>TechnoHippie wrote:
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>No difference between my post and Matts top 10 and Tobys stats... atleast I
>put OT in the subject.
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If you don't realise that my top 10 post, revealing which search terms
are in current vogue, is very relevant and on-topic to web masters
then you don't understand basic marketing.
Matt
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| Augustus 2005-01-24, 7:20 am |
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"Matt Probert" <comments@probertencyclopaedia.com> wrote in message
news:41f4986b.42878445@news.ntlworld.com...
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> If you don't realise that my top 10 post, revealing which search terms
> are in current vogue, is very relevant and on-topic to web masters
> then you don't understand basic marketing.
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Its not my intention to be hostile or beligerent by saying this, thats not
my intention... there just doesn't seem to be any better way to put it:
Honestly, I never thought your top 10 posts were relevant or on topic...
usually the list is made up of "no-name" or "has been" actors that one would
presume fits better in a "bottom 10 most searched people" list, rather than
a "top 10" listing. I often figured that your site either has a vast
quantity of information on everything or has alot of info about the obscure
and esoteric that people searched there for those people because the major
search engines had nothing on them (because mostly nobody else cares about
them)
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| Dylan Parry 2005-01-24, 7:20 am |
| Neal wrote:
> Well, if you give even a slightly leaping XXXX about interview-based
> entertainment TV, you have Mr. Carson to thank for setting the standard
> against which all are judged.
Maybe for Americans, yes, but I've never heard a British person compared
to the standards set by Mr Carson (who incidentally I recognize by name
alone). Mr Parkinson, yes, or maybe Mr Wogan, but not Carson :\
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Dylan Parry
http://webpageworkshop.co.uk -- FREE Web tutorials and references
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| Matt Probert 2005-01-24, 7:21 pm |
| Once upon a time, far far away, the king summoned "Augustus"
<Imperial.Palace@Rome.com> who replied:
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>"Matt Probert" <comments@probertencyclopaedia.com> wrote in message
>news:41f4986b.42878445@news.ntlworld.com...
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>Its not my intention to be hostile or beligerent by saying this, thats not
>my intention... there just doesn't seem to be any better way to put it:
Understood.
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>Honestly, I never thought your top 10 posts were relevant or on topic...
>usually the list is made up of "no-name" or "has been" actors that one would
>presume fits better in a "bottom 10 most searched people" list, rather than
>a "top 10" listing. I often figured that your site either has a vast
>quantity of information on everything or has alot of info about the obscure
>and esoteric that people searched there for those people because the major
>search engines had nothing on them (because mostly nobody else cares about
>them)
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You don't read current men's magazines do you? Nor do I, but digging
about reveals that these people are popular within the pages of FHM,
Maxim and the like.
Matt
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| SpaceGirl 2005-01-24, 7:21 pm |
| Neal wrote:
> William Tasso <SpamBlocked@tbData.com> wrote:
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> Well, if you give even a slightly leaping XXXX about interview-based
> entertainment TV, you have Mr. Carson to thank for setting the standard
> against which all are judged.
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> Of course, if you do not, that's another thing.
That would be planet America. The other 6 billion of us probably have
never seen one of his shows, or a show influenced by him, or really care
that much :)
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| SpaceGirl 2005-01-24, 7:21 pm |
| Augustus wrote:
> "Matt Probert" <comments@probertencyclopaedia.com> wrote in message
> news:41f4986b.42878445@news.ntlworld.com...
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> Its not my intention to be hostile or beligerent by saying this, thats not
> my intention... there just doesn't seem to be any better way to put it:
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> Honestly, I never thought your top 10 posts were relevant or on topic...
> usually the list is made up of "no-name" or "has been" actors that one would
> presume fits better in a "bottom 10 most searched people" list, rather than
> a "top 10" listing. I often figured that your site either has a vast
> quantity of information on everything or has alot of info about the obscure
> and esoteric that people searched there for those people because the major
> search engines had nothing on them (because mostly nobody else cares about
> them)
Hmm hardly. Matts lists are usually pretty accurate. I DO read all these
crappy zines :)
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| CarolW. 2005-01-24, 7:21 pm |
| On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:46:43 +0000, SpaceGirl
<NOtheSpaceGirlSPAM@subhuman.net> wrote:
>Neal wrote:
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>That would be planet America. The other 6 billion of us probably have
>never seen one of his shows, or a show influenced by him, or really care
>that much :)
True, but I remember Johnny Carson having my mother in stitches some
nights [trying to sneak in and watch one of his shows wasn't possible
in my home due to the layout of the rooms but my hubby recalls
sneaking out to sit on the steps in his home to catch bits of The
Tonight Show before his parents caught him sitting there].
Any man who could make my mother laugh got a bonus point in my book.
Oddly, latter part of last week it was revealed that even though he
was in seclusion [had been pretty much so since he did his farewell
show back in '92] that he had been writing some bits for David
Letterman's talk show even here recently. David Letterman had
originally been thought to be the one who would host the show upon
Carson's retirement but Jay Leno got it instead.
Carson's career was one of those "in the right place at the right
time" deals; he was just entering the television medium while it was
still in its youth and managed to be selected to take over The Tonight
Show; he took off on the prior hosts [Jack Paar and Steve Allen]
thoughts and just helped cement some ideas of what a successful talk
show, with celebrity and non-celebrity guests, woudl be like on
American television. He also helped the early careers of many folks
like Bette Midler, Jay Leno [duh], Jerry Seinfield, Bill Cosby, and
others through him seeing something in those acts that others did not
see at the time.
I suppose what suprised many people was here was this guy who 5 nights
a week for 30 years entertained them on the TV screen but in reality
he was a shy man who was also a homebody so when he retired from the
show - he retired and refused requests for appearances. Sadly though
many of his older shows were not stored but taped over - only snippets
of those left were the ones shared in the "best moments" deals but
even then not the whole shows were always intact but those were the
only ones left from the early shows he did. So some television history
lost due to a decision on someone's part to tape over some of the
older shows - which was not limited to older archives of the Tonight
Show.
Even those of us in America who didn't watch his shows or even see him
when he was still doing television have heard of him and-or know of
his impact on that particular medium. But then again, I recall when
David Letterman was the local weatherman in Indianapolis - and my Dad
rolling his eyes in despair when I would beg to watch Channel 13's
evening news just to watch Letterman. Safe to say that I haven't seen
any other weather forecaster tried to imitate Letterman's style and
probably for good reason based on my memories. ;)
Et al and et cetera to wind up my contribution to the off-topic
thread here :))
Carol
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| I understand that this is not an American-only list (by any means!)
but I don't see why posting about Johnny Carson is any worse than
posting about the UK radio broadcaster who died awhile ago. Each of
those was mostly relevant to one side of the pond, both made
international news (for example, see
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2...ent_2501249.htm for
Chinese coverage of Carson's death) and both have a lot of people
reacting very emotionally.
I'm no fan of the OP (he's in my killfile), but that doesn't mean that
it's necessary to trash Carson just because he's American. Or should
this group be renamed alt.www.europeanwebmaster ?
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| Dylan Parry wrote:
> MGW wrote:
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> All those in favour say 'aye'! :P
<g>
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| Eric Jarvis 2005-01-24, 7:21 pm |
| Dylan Parry usenet@dylanparry.com wrote:
> MGW wrote:
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> All those in favour say 'aye'! :P
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First we have to decide which language we'll conduct the vote in.
I propose Polish.
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| C A Upsdell 2005-01-24, 7:21 pm |
| Eric Jarvis wrote:
> Dylan Parry usenet@dylanparry.com wrote:
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> First we have to decide which language we'll conduct the vote in.
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> I propose Polish.
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How about English ... rather than American.
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| SpaceGirl 2005-01-24, 7:21 pm |
| MGW wrote:
> I understand that this is not an American-only list (by any means!)
> but I don't see why posting about Johnny Carson is any worse than
> posting about the UK radio broadcaster who died awhile ago. Each of
> those was mostly relevant to one side of the pond, both made
> international news (for example, see
> http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2...ent_2501249.htm for
> Chinese coverage of Carson's death) and both have a lot of people
> reacting very emotionally.
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> I'm no fan of the OP (he's in my killfile), but that doesn't mean that
> it's necessary to trash Carson just because he's American. Or should
> this group be renamed alt.www.europeanwebmaster ?
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I'm not complaining really! :)
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| Charles Sweeney 2005-01-24, 7:21 pm |
| MGW wrote
> I understand that this is not an American-only list (by any means!)
> but I don't see why posting about Johnny Carson is any worse than
> posting about the UK radio broadcaster who died awhile ago. Each of
> those was mostly relevant to one side of the pond, both made
> international news (for example, see
> http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2...ent_2501249.htm for
> Chinese coverage of Carson's death) and both have a lot of people
> reacting very emotionally.
>
> I'm no fan of the OP (he's in my killfile), but that doesn't mean that
> it's necessary to trash Carson just because he's American. Or should
> this group be renamed alt.www.europeanwebmaster ?
You are quite right. FWIW I had heard of Johnny Carson, and noticed his
death on the BBC website, I also heard it on BBC radio news, and it
would have been on the TV news too.
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Charles Sweeney
http://CharlesSweeney.com
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| William Tasso 2005-01-24, 11:17 pm |
| MGW wrote:
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> should this group be renamed alt.www.europeanwebmaster ?
Where exactly /is/ europe these days?
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| SpaceGirl <NOtheSpaceGirlSPAM@subhuman.net> wrote:
> That would be planet America.
Beep beep.
> The other 6 billion of us probably have never seen one of his shows,
He only had one show
> or a show influenced by him,
Have you ever watched a talk show??
> or really care that much :)
So be it.
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| Dylan Parry <usenet@dylanparry.com> wrote:
> Neal wrote:
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> Maybe for Americans, yes, but I've never heard a British person
> compared to the standards set by Mr Carson (who incidentally I
> recognize by name alone). Mr Parkinson, yes, or maybe Mr Wogan, but
> not Carson :\
And you'll note I don't know either of these names.
Yet when they die I shall not disparage your claims of their influence.
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| William Tasso wrote:
> MGW wrote:
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> Where exactly /is/ europe these days?
/waves
Over here :-)
Sometimes it tries to go to Britain too, but the Brits keep
pushing it back onto the mainland.
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Els
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- Renato Russo -
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| Toby Inkster 2005-01-25, 7:23 am |
| Viper wrote:
> No difference between my post and Matts top 10 and Tobys stats... atleast I
> put OT in the subject.
In which group do you think my stats would be more on-topic?
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| Toby Inkster wrote:
> Viper wrote:
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> In which group do you think my stats would be more on-topic?
They have nothing to do with webmastering and seem to be useless.
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| Dylan Parry 2005-01-25, 7:23 am |
| William Tasso wrote:
> Where exactly /is/ europe these days?
Depends on your sources. I suppose /officially/ it extends to Greece and
the Balkans, but according to Eurovision it also includes Israel and
Russia :D
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http://webpageworkshop.co.uk -- FREE Web tutorials and references
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| Dylan Parry wrote:
> William Tasso wrote:
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> Depends on your sources. I suppose /officially/ it extends
> to Greece and the Balkans, but according to Eurovision it
> also includes Israel and Russia :D
Russia is Europe I thought? Or at least part of it..
http://www.lonelyplanet.com/mapshel...ssia/russia.htm
Israel: no idea how it got into Eurovision, probably cause so
many Europeans live there. It's actually Asia though.
I don't know if it's still the case, but for instance MTV comes
in two flavours over there: MTV Europe and MTV Asia :-)
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Els
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Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito.
- Renato Russo -
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| Charles Sweeney 2005-01-25, 7:23 am |
| Els wrote
> William Tasso wrote:
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> /waves
> Over here :-)
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> Sometimes it tries to go to Britain too, but the Brits keep
> pushing it back onto the mainland.
He he! Amazing the difference a little bit of water makes! Speaking of
which, last week when I was flying in from Geneva (sounds good that) I
was over the English Channel, had a great view of it. From the air,
France and Britain looked so close together, yet it's that little bit of
water that makes all the difference!
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| Dylan Parry 2005-01-25, 7:23 am |
| Els wrote:
> Russia is Europe I thought?
I'm never sure about it. Russia as the USSR covered the whole of the top
half of Asia, but Russia as it is now appears to be mainly in Europe.
IIRC Europe is everything west of the Volga, or something :\s
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http://webpageworkshop.co.uk -- FREE Web tutorials and references
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| Charles Sweeney 2005-01-25, 7:23 am |
| Viper wrote
> Toby Inkster wrote:
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> They have nothing to do with webmastering and seem to be useless.
Don't be a tit. They have everything to do with this group, and
therefore could not be more topical. In any event, Mr Inkster gives
freely of his time to produce the stats, so don't be an ungrateful
bastard.
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Charles Sweeney
http://CharlesSweeney.com
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| Matt Probert 2005-01-25, 12:39 pm |
| Once upon a time, far far away, the king summoned "Viper"
<venomx@XXXXXXXXXX> who replied:
>Toby Inkster wrote:
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>They have nothing to do with webmastering and seem to be useless.
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ROTFL!
Oh dear, there goes another monitor in a shower of tea-induced sparks.
Did anyone else spot the irony?
Matt
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| William Tasso 2005-01-25, 12:40 pm |
| Matt Probert wrote:
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> Did anyone else spot the irony?
No, I believe Eric is hiding her.
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| Charles Sweeney <me@charlessweeney.com> wrote:
> Viper wrote
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> Don't be a tit. They have everything to do with this group, and
> therefore could not be more topical.
Curious - in what way do you find them useful?
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| Toby Inkster 2005-01-25, 7:24 pm |
| Viper wrote:
> Toby Inkster wrote:
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> They have nothing to do with webmastering and seem to be useless.
I never argued that they were useful. I asked to which group it would be
more appropriate to post them.
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| Toby Inkster 2005-01-25, 7:24 pm |
| Dylan Parry wrote:
> William Tasso wrote:
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> Depends on your sources. I suppose /officially/ it extends to Greece and
> the Balkans, but according to Eurovision it also includes Israel and
> Russia :D
The border traditionally follows the Volga river until it hits the
Caspian, then cuts back across Russia to the Black Sea, including the part
of Turkey north of the Bospohorus, but excluding the rest of it, taking in
most of the Mediterranean islands, the British Isles and all the northern
isles, up to and including Iceland.
This ought to give you a pretty good idea:
http://www.dspr.com/www/contact/images/map-Europe.gif
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| Charles Sweeney 2005-01-25, 7:24 pm |
| Neal wrote
> Charles Sweeney <me@charlessweeney.com> wrote:
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> Curious - in what way do you find them useful?
I find them interesting.
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| Eric Jarvis 2005-01-25, 11:19 pm |
| Neal neal413@yahoo.com wrote:
> Charles Sweeney <me@charlessweeney.com> wrote:
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> Curious - in what way do you find them useful?
>
They give me an incentive to post tidily in a usually vain attempt to get
to the top of the list for highest proportion of new text.
What Charles does with them I really couldn't begin to guess. On the other
hand if they get up Viper's nose then that pretty much conclusively proves
they are doing at least something constructive.
--
eric
www.ericjarvis.co.uk
"live fast, die only if strictly necessary"
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