VRML - X3D SESSION AT DIGITAL HOLLYWOOD LA- MARCH 31st. SPECIAL OFFER

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X3D SESSION AT DIGITAL HOLLYWOOD LA- MARCH 31st. SPECIAL OFFER

cube3

2004-03-09, 11:29 pm

Hello all,
Here's a first look and an invite to the Digital Hollywood Event at the
end of March in L.A. A great offer for the Day Three- One day pass with the
X3D session.
LarryR.
SFWEB3D

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Friends of X3D will qualify for a $100 off, Discount Registration to
attend Digital Hollywood Spring, March 29-31, Loews Santa Monica Beach
Hotel. When you register for the All-Access, $495 ticket, in the name field
online, after your name, simply type Friends of X3D -100 Off, and your
credit card will be charged $395. Or if you only wish to attend Day Three -
you will be charged $100.

Please note the following session of interest:
Wednesday, March 31st
9:30 AM - 10:45 AM
X3D: The ISO-Standard Format for Real-Time 3D Convergent Media - Anytime,
Anywhere
Tony Parisi, Senior Vice President, The ManyOne Network; President, Media
Machines, Co-Author, X3D Specification
David Colleen, Principle and Owner, Planet9 Studios
Jeff Weekley, Naval Postgraduate School's MOVES Institute
Larry Rosenthal, Vice President of New Business and Marketing, Vizx3d.com.
Founder- SFWEB3D, Moderator
Additional speaker to be announced

Entertainment transformation and convergence will be in full swing at this
spring's conference. Digital Hollywood is your passport to the future of
the entertainment, technology, media and advertising industries. Join us
March 29-31, 2004 at the Loews Santa Monica Beach Hotel.
See the agenda online, click here
http://www.digitalhollywood.com/DHSpring2004.html
and meet the industry's leaders - see list below
Sincerely,
Victor Harwood, President, Digital Hollywood, Conference Director,
212-352-9720

Partial List of Confirmed Speakers
Jason Hirschhorn, Senior Vice President, Digital Music and Media, MTV
Networks
Frederic V. Bien, SVP Advanced Media Technology, Turner Broadcasting
System
Larry Namer, President & CEO, Reality Central
Tim Hanlon, Vice President/Director of Emerging Contacts, Starcom
MediaVest Group
David Ernst, Executive Vice President, Director, Futures & Technologies,
Initiative
Luis Ubinas, Director, West Coast, McKinsey & Co.
Ken Hertz, Senior Partner, Goldring Hertz & Lichtenstein LLP
Jameel Spencer, Chief Marketing Officer, Bad Boy Entertainment
Steve Schnur, Worldwide Executive of Music and Audio, Electronic Arts
Marc Juris, President, Fuse
Don Maggi, President, intertainment
Russ Pillar, President and Chief Executive Officer, Viacom Digital Media
Group
Saul Berman, Partner, Media and Entertainment group, IBM Business
Consulting Services (BCS)
Jeff DeJoseph, Vice Chairman and Chief Strategic Officer, Doremus
Jim Bankoff, EVP, Programming, Properties, and Production, AOL
Robert Friedman, former President, New Line TV, co-Chair New Line Cinema;
current President, Classic Media, Golden Books & Harvey Entertainment
Neville Wheeler, Senior Manager, Cisco Systems
Nancy Goguen, Director of Strategic Marketing, Broadband Communications
Group, Texas Instruments Incorporated
Ted Cohen, Senior Vice President, D3 - Digital Development & Distribution,
EMI Recorded Music
Scott R. Campbell, Vice Consul, British Trade International, British
Consulate-General
Brian Queen, Digital Media Solutions Manager, IBM Corp.
Tony Barra, Chief Strategy Officer, Internet Home Alliance, President,
Filament Consulting
Adrian Sexton, Executive Director, Business Development, Lions Gate
Entertainment
Keith Hindle, VP Integrated Marketing and Interactivity, FremantleMedia
North America (American Idol)
Sarah Nettinga, Director, Film, Television and Music Entertainment, NASCAR
Douglas Scott, co-founder & Partner, MATTER
Greg DePrez, VP, Subscription VOD, Starz Encore Group LLC
Tom Barreca, Senior Vice President, World Wrestling Entertainment, Inc.
Charles Segars, Senior Vice President, Programming, Production and Network
Strategy, FINE LIVING Network
Thomas N. Heymann, Senior Vice President/General Manager, The Biography
Channel
Alex Ben Block, Editor, Television Week
Michael Arrieta, Senior Vice President, Strategic Alliances, Sony Pictures
Digital Networks
Joe Lynam, CEO, PaymentOne
Chris Di Cesare, Director of Marketing, Microsoft Game Studios (Xbox, PC &
Online Games)
Chris Kitze, CEO, Yaga Media
Jim Ramo, CEO, Movielink
Curt Marvis, CEO, CinemaNow
Ira Rubenstein, Senior Vice President, Sony Pictures Digital
Phil Corman, Director, Partner, Business Development, MSTV, Microsoft
Corp.
Bruce Lyon, Industry Group Marketing Manager, Global Media & Entertainment
Markets Group, Sun Microsystems Inc.
Todd Herman, Streaming Media Evangelist, MSN Video, Microsoft Corp.
Jason Hall, SVP, Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment
Dave Perry, founder, Shiny Entertainment (Enter The Matrix)
Don L. Daglow, President and CEO, Stormfront Studios
Mark Friedler, CEO, Gigex, Inc.
Michael Kassan, Media and Entertainment Consultant
David Lande, Partner, Ziffren Brittenham
Kristen Petersen, Senior Vice President, Universal
Erik Feig, President of Production and Acquisitions, Summit Entertainment
Chris Gebhardt, Partner, Integrated Entertainment Partners
Dave Pahl, General Manager, Digital Still / Video Camera Product Group,
Texas Instruments
Jerry Brandt, Vice President, Media & Entertainment, Synovate Market
Reseach
Patrick Lo, CEO, NETGEAR
Fred Swan, Director of Marketing, Interactive Entertainment Business Unit,
Logitech
Michael Fidler, Senior Vice President, Blu-ray Disc Group, Sony Corp. of
America
Josette Bonte, Managing Director, Broadband Services, RHK
Fred Davis, Chairman, Prosumer Media
Mary Coller, Sr. Vice President, SoapCity.com, Sony Pictures Digital
Networks
Todd Walker, SVP & General Manager, TV Guide Interactive
Jeff Binder, CEO, Broadbus Technologies
Reidar Wasenius, Senior Product Manager, Nokia Mobile Phone Entertainment
& Media Business Unit
Benjamin Feinman, Apple Computer
Chris Melissinos, Chief Gaming Officer, Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Robert Tercek, Executive VP Programming - Chief Strategy Officer, (M)FORMA
Ralph Simon, Mobile Entertainment Forum, U.S. Chair Americas
Elizabeth Sherman, Vice President, New Media, Endemol USA (Fear Factor,
Big Brother)
James Glasscock, Director, Advanced Media Technology, Turner Broadcasting
System
Ross Levinsohn, Senior Vice President & General Manager - Fox Sports
Interactive Media
Craig Dalton, Director, Business Development, Proteus
Mark Scarpa, Producer/Director, Chair, Producers Guild of America, New
Media Council NY Committee
Chung Liu, Chief Technology Officer, and Vice President of Engineering,
ACCESS Systems America
Dale (Ty) Roberts, Chief Technology Officer, Gracenote
Carles Guillot, Business Development Director, MobileWay
Shawn Conahan, President, Conahan Consulting
Rio Caraeff, Vice President, Wireless Services, Sony Pictures Digital
Networks
Tricia Han, Vice President Product Development, Vindigo Studios
Fabrice Grinda, founder & CEO, Zingy
Greg Ballard, Chief Executive Officer, Sorrent
Joyce Schwarz, Author & founder, JCOM,
Howard Gefen, Director, Mobile Operator Solutions, Windows Mobile
Division, Microsoft Corporation
Steve Sprigg, Vice President, Engineering, Qualcomm
Gina Centoni, Vice President of Developer Marketing for Openwave Systems,
Inc.
Mark C. Donovan, Director of Mobile Services & Marketing, RealNetworks,
Inc.
John Arledge, Vice President of Business Development, Danger
David Frerichs, VP & US General Manager, Coding Technologies, Inc.
Ellie Hirschhorn, General Manager and Executive Vice President, MusicNet
Chris Schairbaum, World Wide Business Manager, Portable
Audio/Infotainment, Texas Instruments
Christina Tancredi, SVP Marketing, Advertising & Sponsorship Sales, Music
Choice
Lisa Crane, Managing Partner, Media Venture Advisors
David B. Davies, Vice President of Strategic Marketing for Subscriber
Networks, Scientific-Atlanta, Inc.
Joe Jensen, General Manager, Consumer Electronics Group, Intel Corporation
Stephen DiFranco, Vice President of Corporate and Brand Marketing, Maxtor
Corporation
William Chien, Director of Product Marketing for Pinnacle Systems Business
and Consumer Division
Yuanzhe (Michael) Cai, Research Analyst, Parks Associates
Mike Katz, Senior Vice President, Booz Allen Hamilton, Inc.
Alison Moore, Director of Sales & Marketing, HBO
Edward Stansfield, CEO, Studio 4
Will Griffin, President and COO, Simmons Lathan Media Group
Channing Dawson, SVP, New Ventures, Scripps Networks
Bev Doughty, Senior Vice President Marketing, TVN Entertainment
Corporation
Howie Singer, PhD, VP Technology, Warner Music Group
Bob Ohlweiler, SVP Business Development, MUSICMATCH
Jeff Cavins, CEO, Loudeye
Alan Schulman, Chief Creative Officer, Advanced Media Solutions, Brand New
World
Brad Oleshansky, Vice President, Business Affairs, GSN The Network for
Games
Kevin Townsend, founder, Science + Fiction
Julie Shumaker, Director of Advertising Sales, Electronic Arts
Mariana Danilovic, Managing Director, Hollywood Portfolio, LLC
Scott Randall, President, BrandGames
Josh Rose, Senior Vice President, Director of iDeutsch, Deutsch, Inc.
Roxanne Gryder, Intel Research and Development, Technology Manager,
Corporate Technology Group (CTG)
Michael Collette, Chief Executive Officer, Ucentric
Anthony Wood, founder and Chief Executive Officer, Roku
Jeremy Toeman, Associate Vice President of Products Management, Mediabolic
Erik Scheelke, co-Founder, President & CTO and Board Member, DigitalDeck
Scott Donaton, Editor, Advertising Age
Ben Mendelson, founder & President, Interactive Television Alliance
Rick Dean, Director Technical Business Development, THX
Greg Berkin, President/CEO/Founder, Think Digital, Inc.
Garrett Cook, Director of Graphics and Design, Technicolor Creative
Services-DVD
Jeff Levison, Technical Director, DTS Entertainment
Neil McGinness, Vice President, National Lampoon
Aaron Markham, Manager of Internet Anti-Piracy, Worldwide Anti-Piracy
Operations, Universal Studios
Bruce Anderson, Vice President of Operations, Movielink
Lucy Goldenhersh, Principal, IP Digital Rights Management
Russell P. Reeder, President, CEO and Chairman of the Board, RightsLine
IAN C. BALLON, chairman of the Internet and E-Commerce Practice Group of
Manatt, Phelps & Phillips, LLP
Dan Hart, CEO,
Dan Hart, General Manager, Yahoo! Games
Scott Kauffman, CEO, MusicNow
Don Teague, Vice-President Sales & Marketing, PaymentOne
Bradley M. Mindich, CEO, People2People Group & EVP, Phoenix
Media/Communications Group
Scott Roesch, Vice President, Marketing, AtomShockwave
Andrew Rosenman, Director, Account Management, 141XM North America, div.,
WPP Group
Chris Colborn, VP of Interaction Design, R/GA
Paul Zullo, CEO, Muze
Susan S. Bratton, Vice President, Sales and Marketing, mailblocks, inc.
Janet Snowdon, Business Development Manager, IBM Digital Media Group
Bruce Davis, Chairman & CEO, Digimarc Corp.
Rajan Samtani, Director, Sales & Marketing, ContentGuard
Rist Brouwer, founder, DMDsecure
Christopher Levy, CEO & President, BuyDRM.com
David E. Leibowitz, Managing Partner, CH Potomac
Reggie Bradford, president & CEO, N2 Broadband
Gunjan Bhow, Senior Product Manager, Microsoft TV Division, Microsoft
Corporation
Richard D. Titus, Managing Partner, Schematic
Ed Huguez, CEO, MidStream Technologies
Joseph Ambeault, Director of Broadband Systems, SeaChange International
Mark Schaszberger, Chairman and CEO, IMAKE Software & Services, Inc.
Allison Dollar, founder & co-President, Interactive Television Alliance
David O. Higley, Managing Director & Head of Digital Media Technologies,
UBS Investment Bank
Sun Jen Yung, Director, Media Investment Banking, Deutsche Bank
Securities, Inc.
Allen Sussman, Partner, Morrison & Foerster LLP
Bob Davis, Partner, Highland Capital Partners, former CEO TerraLycos
Mark Stevens, Partner, Fenwick & West
Donald Karl, Partner, Perkins Coie LLP
Joey Tamer, President, S.O.S. Inc.
Nancy Schreiber, ASC
Larry Bridges, President, RED CAR, Inc.
Steve Schklair, President & CEO, Cobalt Entertainment Technology
J.F. Lawton, Writer, Producer, Director
John Manulis, CEO, Visionbox Media
Thomas Jones, Senior Vice President, Shopping Services and Advice, CNET
Networks Inc
Craig Calder, VP, Creative Services, New York Times
Jeff Kapner, Regional Director, Marketing and Strategy, Adelphia
California Region
Jody Stark, Media & Entertainment Industry Leader, Blast Radius
Ron Frankel, CEO, Synacor
Larry Shapiro, EVP Biz Dev and Operations, Walt Disney Internet Group
Donald A. Jasko, Chief Executive Officer, Digital Economics
Bill Allman, Sr. Vice President, Interactive Media, Discovery Networks
Jeffrey Pollack, Managing Director, Broadcasting & New Media, NASCAR
Digital Entertainment
John P. Roberts, Senior Vice President Interactive & Online Entertainment,
Game Show Network
William Corbin, Vice Pre{ident, Interactive Production, A&E Television
Networks
John Gilles, Director kf Interactive Talevision, TechTV
Scott Fedewa, Executive Producer & COO, BillO'Reilly.com
Marcia Zellers, Director, Enhanced Television, American Film Institute
Walt Ordway, Chief Technology Officer, DCI
Doug Darrow, Business Manager for DLP Cinema
Michael Sterling, Principal-Technical Coordination, Technicolor Digital
Cinema (TDC)
Julian Levin, Executive Vice President, Digital Exhibition and
non-Theatrical Sales,(Fox Entertainment
Steve Bergman, Vice President, Digital Cinema, Deluxe
Maciek Brzeski, Vice Presidmnt, Marketing, Toshiba America Information
Systems
Jack P. Guedj, Vice President Video Products Marketing, Cizrus Logic
Sandip H. Mandera, Digital Home Evangelist/Staff Technical Marketing
Engineer Software & Solutions, Intel Corporation
John LeMoncheck, Vice President of Consumer Electronics Products, Silicon
Image
Henry Wiekhman, Worldwide Manager, Streaming Media, Texas Instruments
Michelle Abraham, Sr. Analyst, In-Stat/MDZ,
Brian Seth Hurst, President, Opportunity Management Company
Geoff Barrall, Founder and CTO, BlueArc
David Rice, Vice Prisident of Sales and Marketing, Limelight Network
Tom Inglefield, StorageTek
Matt Deichman, GM Services Operations, Media Web Services, RealNetworks
Mike Harburg, CTO, Loudeye
Steve Bradbury, CyberStuff,
Ryan Petty, Vice President, Engineering and Operations, Myrio
Dr. Ji Zhang, co-founder, chairman and CTO, Exavio, Inc.
John O'Donnell, co-founder and CTO, Equator Technologies
David Price, Vice President, Business Development, Harmonic Inc,
Keith Wehmeyer, General Manager, IP Video Business, Thomson
Mark J. Kapczynski, President, MESoft Partners, LLC
David McElhatten, Creative Director, Vidiom Systems Ckrporation
Bow Rodgers, CEO, MyDTV
Dalen Harrison, President, CEO and Director, Ensequence
Scott Newnam, CEO, Goldpocket
Bill Niemeyer, founder, Centrimedia
Tim Napoleon, Director of Business Development, VitalStream, Inc.
Robert Flynn, CEO, Zetools
Donald Leka, CEO, Trans Media Exchange
Shoba Purushothaman, President and Chief Executive Officer, The
NewsMarket, Inc.
Darcy Lorincz, Vice President & General Manager, Global Rich Media
Services, SAVVIS Communication
Milind Gadekar, VP Marketing, P-Cube
Katherine Parker, former, Manager for Entertainment & Media Industry, Sun
Microsystems
Mads Lillelund, President, Magno Networks
Tom Flanagan, Director, Worldwide Broadband Strategy, Texas Instruments
Derek Kuhn, P.Eng, BCD Chair, Director Marketing and Business Development,
Broadband Media & Entertainment, Alcatel
Emil Regard, Vice President of Strategic Marketing, Hughes Network Systems
Seth Kenvin, Vice President Corporate Development, BigBand Networks
Tom Sauer, Director, Business Development, SkyStream Networks
John North, Director, The Skyler Management Group
Michael Weiss, President & CEO, StreamCast Networks
Albhy Galuten, former, Sr. Vice President, Advanced Technology, Universal
Music Group
Travis Kalanick, founder, Chairman, Red Swoosh, Inc.
Charles Nesson, Weld Professor of Law, Harvard Law School
Scott Cohen, Co-Founder & President, Red Tie Media
Jack Perry, President & CEO, Decisionmark
Tom Hagopian, SVP and General Manager, Advertising and Programming, OpenTV
Jonathan Symonds, VP, Business Development, ICTV
Bill Schick, Vice President, Media & Entertainment Group, EDS
Mark Pascarella, President, Gotuit Media Corp.
Jacqueline Corbelli, Co-Chief Executive Officers, BrightLine Partners
Peter H. Kang, Partner, Sidley Austin Brown & Wood
Perry Solomon, President & CEO, Peppercoin
Tom Trinneer, VP, Products, Qpass
Chip Venters, Chief Executive Officer, Digital Containers
Gabe Zichermann, VP of Strategy and Communications, Trymedia Systems
Les Ottolenghi, Founding Partner, INTENT MediaWorks
Derek Broes, EVP, Altnet
Luke Rippy, CEO, Seamless P2P
Martin C. Lafferty, Chief Executive Officer, Distributed Computing
Industry Association (DCIA)
Matthew S. Bromberg, Vice President and General Manager of AOL Games,
America Online, Inc.
Mike Goslin, Vice President & Managing Director, Disney Online
Jason Bell, Executive Vice President, Turbine Entertainment Software
Keith McCurdy, Interactive and Online Industry Veteran and Consultant
Patricia Fry, Global Offering Executive, Digital Content Creation (DCC)
and Online Games, IBM Corp.
Joshua Hong, co-founder and CEO, K2 Network
Kim Pallister, Technical Marketing Manager and Processor Evangelist,
Software and Solutions Group, Intel Corp.
Dick Jones, Director of Programming, Verizon
Jay Fausch, Sr. Director, Strategic Marketing, Alcatel Broadband
Networking Division - Broadband Access
Leif Street, Director of Marketing, Wood County Telephone
Ken Pyle, Viodi, LLC
James Lamberti, Vice President of Entertainment and Media Solutions,
comScore Networks, Inc.
Karim Sanjabi, EVP, Creative & Technology, Carat Interactive
Chris Roberts, Sr. VP Sales & Marketing, Rentrak
Richard Jalichandra, Vice President Business Development, IGN
Entertainment
Larry Gerbrandt, Chief Operating Officer and Senior Analyst of Kagan World
Media
David Price, Vice President, Business Development, Harmonic Data Systems
Shawn Ambawni, Executive Vice President, Marketing and Business
Development, Nextreaming
Jeff Cooper, Worldwide Program Manager, Compression Technologies, Thomson

--
Victor Harwood
President
http://www.digitalhollywood.com
Digital Hollywood
421 Hudson St., #320
New York, NY 10014
212-352-9720

Joerg Scheurich aka MUFTI

2004-03-10, 8:29 am

> Here's a first look and an invite to the Digital Hollywood Event at the
> end of March in L.A. A great offer for the Day Three- One day pass with the
> X3D session.

They should better try to invite someone, who can bring X3D into the default
web broswer installation.
So the people responsible for Microsoft Internet explorer are far more
important for the future of X3D as "Microsoft Game Studios".
Other candidates: Opera, netscape (now AOL ?), mozilla.

so long
MUFTI
--
Gedruckte Schaltkarten Diagnose kann nicht fortfahren, weil eine
oder mehr Gedruckte Schaltkarten im System anwesend sind.
(Card Executive 2.0 for NT Diagnostics)

cube3

2004-03-10, 1:32 pm

Reading information first before commenting publically could be a good
thing...)
Why not look at www.manyone.net s browser.
SFWEB3D

"Joerg Scheurich aka MUFTI" <rusmufti@helpdesk.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> wrote
in message news:c2n09t$38a$2@news.uni-stuttgart.de...
the[color=darkred]
>
> They should better try to invite someone, who can bring X3D into the
default
> web broswer installation.
> So the people responsible for Microsoft Internet explorer are far more
> important for the future of X3D as "Microsoft Game Studios".
> Other candidates: Opera, netscape (now AOL ?), mozilla.
>
> so long
> MUFTI
> --
> Gedruckte Schaltkarten Diagnose kann nicht fortfahren, weil eine
> oder mehr Gedruckte Schaltkarten im System anwesend sind.
> (Card Executive 2.0 for NT Diagnostics)

Joerg Scheurich aka MUFTI

2004-03-10, 3:32 pm

> Reading information first before commenting publically could be a good
> thing...)
> Why not look at www.manyone.net s browser.

Cause i do not even know one person, who use this manyone browser.

The fact, it is yet another fork of (or based on) mozilla do not help
much.

To bring X3D to the people, a islands solution like the manyone browser
do not help.
The need to install a VRML97 browser from somewhere also resulted in
islands solutions, and it looks like it is your opinion, that the
result was "not sellable".

so long
MUFTI
--
Dann waehlen Sie einen Klang, durch das Klicken gerade in in der
Scheck-Kiste zur Linke des Klangs zu befestigen.
(aus einem Softwarehandbuch, Stichwort: checkbox)

cube3

2004-03-10, 9:30 pm

You know no one using the browser since the service is still being built and
the browser is yet to be marketed or offered as a product. And if you look
closer and read more before speaking, youll see that manyone.net corporation
has intentions to acquire MediaMachines and the Flux X3D browser to
integrate it as they key media "engine" for their browser. A browser that
has a business plan to compete head on to win over AOL users and those who
want a browser based in 3D..X3D, BTW not VRML.;)

If you again read more about whats going on before posting reactions, youll
see the money and people behind these efforts may disagree with your opinion
of the "facts".:)

The vision set forth here is indeed "sellable", Its exactly like the path
AOL took in the 1990's, only directed at another media marketplace.

best.
Larryr
SFWEB3D

"Joerg Scheurich aka MUFTI" <rusmufti@helpdesk.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> wrote
in message news:c2nq47$ged$1@news.uni-stuttgart.de...
>
> Cause i do not even know one person, who use this manyone browser.
>
> The fact, it is yet another fork of (or based on) mozilla do not help
> much.
>
> To bring X3D to the people, a islands solution like the manyone browser
> do not help.
> The need to install a VRML97 browser from somewhere also resulted in
> islands solutions, and it looks like it is your opinion, that the
> result was "not sellable".
>
> so long
> MUFTI
> --
> Dann waehlen Sie einen Klang, durch das Klicken gerade in in der
> Scheck-Kiste zur Linke des Klangs zu befestigen.
> (aus einem Softwarehandbuch, Stichwort: checkbox)

Joerg Scheurich aka MUFTI

2004-03-11, 9:30 am

> You know no one using the browser since the service is still being built and
> the browser is yet to be marketed or offered as a product.

But on a industry meeting, i would like to see the deciders of the
web key technology, that is used by millions of people now.

Of course, it is positive to see a company with a interesting idea of a
interesting future product on such a meeting.

But it makes a much bigger difference, if the deciders over the key
technology is missing or if a company with a interesting future procudt
idea is missing.

> A browser that
> has a business plan to compete head on to win over AOL users and those who
> want a browser based in 3D.

Without any doubt, it a possibility of the future, that this browsers will
win a countable public. But compare this to the millions of people, and
see what are they using today.
When you want to sell X3D as easy as shockwave/flash, it is not important,
if future island solution whatever supports it.
It is important, that a X3D solution comes with together with the technology,
that the millions of people are already using now (like shockwave/flash,
a shockwave/flash plugin comes together with the webbrowser even on
a exotic machine like SGI IRIX/UNIX).

> X3D, BTW not VRML.;)

BTW: VRML97 is part of X3D 8-)

> If you again read more about whats going on before posting reactions, youll
> see the money and people behind these efforts may disagree with your opinion
> of the "facts".:)

Even for a lot of money and talent it is very difficult to countervail the
history of the big success of the big network browser players in the past.

Therefore i think, it is very important, if the drivers of the big network
browser players are part of such a meeting. Do you disagree ?

> The vision set forth here is indeed "sellable", Its exactly like the path
> AOL took in the 1990's, only directed at another media marketplace.

What do you think: How much of the AOL users today use Micro$oft Internet
Explorer ?

so long
MUFTI
--
Auf \ \blabla\base kann nicht zugegriffen werden. Die angegebenen
Referenzen passen nicht zu einer bestehenden Referenzmenge.
(aus einer M$Windows Fehlermeldung, Stichwort: credentials)

cube3

2004-03-11, 4:36 pm

Up till about 2001 or so just about ALL AOL users were using "rainman" nad
wher part of the closed AOL service subject to whatever technology they
supported. " FLash was only added in 1997 within IE and nestcape, and it
want until 200 or so that AOL users found themselves MOSTLY dumped onot HTML
pages on the web for services that used to be built on rainman.

AOL then 1997- and today still dwarfs all others in user base. And it was
all built not becuase of flash or plugins, but because they had an internal
graphical display interface( rainman) since they started in 88 or so.

What Im suggesting is that plans are being made to have a service like AOL,
that has a 3d immersive X3D based system beneath it... A 3D X3D rainman .

Plugins dont matter much anymore anyway. MP3 files proved that. And
broadband is outgrowing evem AOL diaups in al major cities, note CNEt
yesterday. there are no 20 minute shockwave3d reboots required with the 3
X3D active x installs ive used.

AOL has a stock in VIewpoint... They let there parnters use whatever they
want to produce 3d games. Wild tangent and Virtools have just been used for
Warners and others 3dgames offered through AOL services.

MS is MS, theye will do 3D how they want when they want,,,again..lol.....
but unlike all mythology, they dont always succeed......

MSN networks 1 and 2 both flash messes:) that failed

larryr

"Joerg Scheurich aka MUFTI" <rusmufti@helpdesk.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> wrote
in message news:c2ppq8$r9v$2@news.uni-stuttgart.de...
and[color=darkred]
>
> But on a industry meeting, i would like to see the deciders of the
> web key technology, that is used by millions of people now.
>
> Of course, it is positive to see a company with a interesting idea of a
> interesting future product on such a meeting.
>
> But it makes a much bigger difference, if the deciders over the key
> technology is missing or if a company with a interesting future procudt
> idea is missing.
>
who[color=darkred]
>
> Without any doubt, it a possibility of the future, that this browsers will
> win a countable public. But compare this to the millions of people, and
> see what are they using today.
> When you want to sell X3D as easy as shockwave/flash, it is not important,
> if future island solution whatever supports it.
> It is important, that a X3D solution comes with together with the
technology,
> that the millions of people are already using now (like shockwave/flash,
> a shockwave/flash plugin comes together with the webbrowser even on
> a exotic machine like SGI IRIX/UNIX).
>
>
> BTW: VRML97 is part of X3D 8-)
>
youll[color=darkred]
opinion[color=darkred]
>
> Even for a lot of money and talent it is very difficult to countervail the
> history of the big success of the big network browser players in the past.
>
> Therefore i think, it is very important, if the drivers of the big network
> browser players are part of such a meeting. Do you disagree ?
>
path[color=darkred]
>
> What do you think: How much of the AOL users today use Micro$oft Internet
> Explorer ?
>
> so long
> MUFTI
> --
> Auf \ \blabla\base kann nicht zugegriffen werden. Die angegebenen
> Referenzen passen nicht zu einer bestehenden Referenzmenge.
> (aus einer M$Windows Fehlermeldung, Stichwort: credentials)