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| thierry38080 2005-12-21, 7:18 am |
| Hi,
I created a CSS that work fine on my IE 6.0.2900 (SP2) but I'm having
customers that have problems with it and they're on IE 6.0.2800
(SP1)...
The problem looks like if the stylesheet (in particular the class
LigneTableau_Noir_SansHauteur) was ignored.
Could you test this code on your browser and tell me if you see this
particular points :
- all cells have a left border of 1px black except cells "val3" and
"val5"
- the first link is on the left of the cell and is black and bold
- the second link is centered in the cell and its color is the browser
default color for a link
- all values are centered in their cell
Thanks in advance, I just have no more ideas after 2 days of headache !
Thierry38080
<html><head><title>Test</title>
<style type="text/css">
TD {
FONT-SIZE: 10pt;
FONT-FAMILY: Arial, Verdana, 'Courier New', 'Times New Roman'
}
..LigneTableau_Noir_SansHauteur tr {
TEXT-ALIGN: center;
}
..LigneTableau_Noir_SansHauteur td {
border-color: black;
border-left-style: solid;
border-left-width: 1px;
}
..LigneTableau_Noir_SansHauteur td.sans {
border-right-style: none;
border-left-style: none;
}
..LigneTableau_Noir_SansHauteur td.celD2 {
border-left-style: none;
border-right-style: solid;
border-right-width: 1px;
}
..LigneTableau_Noir_SansHauteur a.lien {
color: #000000;
font-weight: bold;
}
</style></head>
<body leftmargin="10" topmargin="10" marginwidth="10"
marginheight="10">
<table width="700" align="center">
<span class="LigneTableau_Noir_SansHauteur">
<tr id="li0">
<td align="left"> <a href="javascript:;" class="lien">Test
link</a></td>
<td><a href="javascript:;">Another link</a></td>
<td>0</td><td>val1</td>
<td><input type="text" size="4" maxlength="4" tabindex="1"
id="first0" name="0_Quantite" class="ZoneDeSaisie" value="12"/></td>
<td><b>val2</b></td><td class="sans">val3</td>
<td>val4</td><td class="celD2">val5</td>
</tr>
</span>
</table>
</body>
</html>
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| thierry38080 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I created a CSS that work fine on my IE 6.0.2900 (SP2) but I'm having
> customers that have problems with it and they're on IE 6.0.2800
> (SP1)...
> The problem looks like if the stylesheet (in particular the class
> LigneTableau_Noir_SansHauteur) was ignored.
> Could you test this code on your browser and tell me if you see this
> particular points :
> - all cells have a left border of 1px black except cells "val3" and
> "val5"
> - the first link is on the left of the cell and is black and bold
> - the second link is centered in the cell and its color is the browser
> default color for a link
> - all values are centered in their cell
>
> Thanks in advance, I just have no more ideas after 2 days of headache !
<snip code>
If you put that code in a page and put it online, more people are
willing to have a look. Also, since you are talking about a particular
class possibly being ignored, there could be an error in the real
stylesheet, that isn't copied into the code you gave. Best show real
online examples, especially when looking for an error.
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Now playing: Pearl Jam - Black
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| Els wrote:
> thierry38080 wrote:
>
>
> <snip code>
<snip my own reply>
Oh, and you can't have a <span> between <table> and <tr>. Validate
your code and weird problems may disappear, you never know...
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| thierry38080 2005-12-21, 7:18 am |
| You're right Els and in fact it's not the exact code.
I had already made changes but I took an old version of my code, sorry
:-(
In fact, even after the change, my customers still have exactly the
same problem.
I'll put this code on line as soon as I can but for the moment it is
not possible.
That's the good one (only the table code) :
<table width="700" align="center"
class="LigneTableau_Noir_SansHauteur">
<tr id="li0">
<td align="left"> <a href="javascript:;" class="lien">Test
link</a></td>
<td><a href="javascript:;">Another link</a></td>
<td>0</td><td>val1</td>
<td><input type="text" size="4" maxlength="4" tabindex="1" id="first0"
name="0_Quantite" class="ZoneDeSaisie" value="12"/></td>
<td><b>val2</b></td><td class="sans">val3</td>
<td>val4</td><td class="celD2">val5</td>
</tr>
</table>
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| thierry38080 wrote:
> I put a link to my code here :
>
> http://tschinfo.free.fr/test.html
Now if you would quote the relevant bits of messages you reply to, I
wouldn't have to go back to find the first message to remember what
the problem was with that page.
If you think GoogleGroups is to blame for your non-quoting style,
please read this link before replying:
http://www.safalra.com/special/googlegroupsreply/
Anyway - your first message said that people with IE SP1 'have
problems', and that one particular class seems to be ignored.
I don't have SP1, but the page displays the same in IE5.5, IE6.0 and
Opera 8.5. on my Win XP box. What exactly is it that is different for
your SP1 visitors?
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- Renato Russo -
Now playing: Skunk Anansie - All in the Name of Pity
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| thierry38080 2005-12-21, 6:45 pm |
| The problem is that the style "LigneTableau_Noir_SansHauteur" seems not
to be considered for these users.
The whole cells are without any style : no left border of 1px, items
not centered, and link in blue (default) insted of black like the class
"LigneTableau_Noir_SansHauteur a.lien" is intended to do...
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| thierry38080 wrote:
> The problem is that the style "LigneTableau_Noir_SansHauteur" seems not
> to be considered for these users.
> The whole cells are without any style : no left border of 1px, items
> not centered, and link in blue (default) insted of black like the class
> "LigneTableau_Noir_SansHauteur a.lien" is intended to do...
You're not quoting, and replying to the wrong message.
Once more:
http://www.safalra.com/special/googlegroupsreply/
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Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito.
- Renato Russo -
Now playing: Mr. Big - Daddy, Brother, Lover, Little Boy (The Electric
Drill Song)
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| thierry38080 2005-12-21, 6:46 pm |
| Excuse me but I simply use the functionnality of google groups (Reply).
It's very simple to follow the conversation in GoogleGroups, and I
think it's completly useless to quote all messages, it just make the
page longer and not pleasant to read.
I've been using GoogleGroups since several years and nobody never made
such remark.
Anyway, I think also that we are far away for the original subject...
Els a =E9crit :
> thierry38080 wrote:
>
>
> You're not quoting, and replying to the wrong message.
> Once more:
> http://www.safalra.com/special/googlegroupsreply/
>
> --
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> Sonhos vem. Sonhos v=E3o. O resto =E9 imperfeito.
> - Renato Russo -
> Now playing: Mr. Big - Daddy, Brother, Lover, Little Boy (The Electric
> Drill Song)
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| David Dorward 2005-12-21, 6:46 pm |
| thierry38080 wrote:
> Excuse me but I simply use the functionnality of google groups (Reply).
As mentioned at the link you have been pointed to - Google Groups' basic
reply link is considered broken.
> It's very simple to follow the conversation in GoogleGroups,
Not everybody uses GoogleGroups, and it suffers from the problems of
messages arriving out of order just like any other Usenet service.
> and I think it's completly useless to quote all messages, it just make the
> page longer and not pleasant to read.
Most of the rest of us disagree and would appreciate you conforming to the
norms of this community...
.... which includes not top posting.
http://www.allmyfaqs.net/faq.pl?How_to_post
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Home is where the ~/.bashrc is
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| thierry38080 wrote:
[top post corrected]
> Els a écrit :
>
> Excuse me but I simply use the functionnality of google groups (Reply).
Please don't do that. Just use the reply function that is demonstrated
at the above link. Also, please don't top post. In this newsgroup we
read from top to bottom (and from left to right).
> It's very simple to follow the conversation in GoogleGroups,
Only if you read entire threads, which is fine if you don't have
anything else to do. Most of us read Usenet through proper
newsreaders, and have ours set to only display new messages, since
we'd have no time for our actual lives anymore if we'd have to re-read
all the messages we've already read. As an example: I read and post in
about 13 newsgroups about web design. Do you really think I always
remember what was said in a message of two hours ago?
> and I
> think it's completly useless to quote all messages, it just make the
> page longer and not pleasant to read.
You're free to think that way. However, if you want answers from the
professionals here, best adjust to the regular Usenet standards.
> I've been using GoogleGroups since several years and nobody never made
> such remark.
That seems very unlikely. If you really have been using GG that long,
you would have noticed there is a convention on Usenet, which is
repeated many many many times in various ways. Don't tell me: you've
never heard of the golden Usenet rule "lurk for about 2 weeks in a new
group before you post, so you will know what the accepted way of
posting is" ?
> Anyway, I think also that we are far away for the original subject...
That subject is dealt with in the other subthread, where I posted
asking what it is SP1 visitors don't see, and where I said I don't
have SP1. If you'd reply there, in the correct manner, quoting enough
to make the post in itself understandable, sooner or later one clued
SP1 user will come along saying what the problem could be. (or at
least, there is a chance such user does so ;-) )
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Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito.
- Renato Russo -
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| thierry38080 2005-12-21, 6:46 pm |
| Okay I apologize.
Now, if anyone had any ideas about my problem, that would be cool
because I don't know what to answer to my customers...
Thanks !
David Dorward a =E9crit :
> thierry38080 wrote:
>
>
> As mentioned at the link you have been pointed to - Google Groups' basic
> reply link is considered broken.
>
>
> Not everybody uses GoogleGroups, and it suffers from the problems of
> messages arriving out of order just like any other Usenet service.
>
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>
> Most of the rest of us disagree and would appreciate you conforming to the
> norms of this community...
>
> ... which includes not top posting.
>
> http://www.allmyfaqs.net/faq.pl?How_to_post
>
> --
> David Dorward <http://blog.dorward.me.uk/> <http://dorward.me.uk/>
> Home is where the ~/.bashrc is
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| thierry38080 2005-12-21, 6:46 pm |
| So, I repost my answer here, excuse me one again, I'm familiar with
GoogleGroups but not Usenet...
>
> Anyway - your first message said that people with IE SP1 'have
> problems', and that one particular class seems to be ignored.
>
> I don't have SP1, but the page displays the same in IE5.5, IE6.0 and
> Opera 8.5. on my Win XP box. What exactly is it that is different for
> your SP1 visitors?
>
The problem is that the style "LigneTableau_Noir_SansHauteur" seems not
to be considered for these users.
The whole cells are without any style : no left border of 1px, items
not centered, and link in blue (default) insted of black like the class
"LigneTableau_Noir_SansHauteur a.lien" is intended to do...
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| Duncan Booth 2005-12-21, 6:46 pm |
| thierry38080 wrote:
> I created a CSS that work fine on my IE 6.0.2900 (SP2) but I'm having
> customers that have problems with it and they're on IE 6.0.2800
> (SP1)...
> The problem looks like if the stylesheet (in particular the class
> LigneTableau_Noir_SansHauteur) was ignored.
Be aware that using underscore characters in class names is likely to lead
to grief. Underscores are permitted according to css 2.1, but not according
to css 1.0 or css 2.0. What this means is that most browsers will simply
ignore those rules entirely.
My guess would be that Microsoft changed the supported characters in css
identifiers between the different versions of IE.
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| Andy Dingley 2005-12-21, 6:46 pm |
| On 21 Dec 2005 05:14:07 -0800, "thierry38080"
<thierryschneider@XXXXXXXXXX> wrote:
>It's very simple to follow the conversation in GoogleGroups,
Then wait for an answer from someone on GoogleGroups.
If you _want_ help, make it easy for people to help you. Post a URL to
your code on the same server that you're using. Post a useful message
with the quoting conventions that others use, not those you think ought
to be used instead.
You are of course at perfect liberty to do whatever you wish. So are we.
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| Alan J. Flavell 2005-12-21, 6:46 pm |
| On Wed, 21 Dec 2005, Andy Dingley brought to light on Usenet:
> On 21 Dec 2005 05:14:07 -0800, "thierry38080"
> <thierryschneider@XXXXXXXXXX> wrote:
>
Irrelevant: the Netiquette, established over years on Usenet, hasn't
suddenly changed because GG have cobbled-up a perverse interface
which, by default, flies in the face of several fundamental rules of
the netiquette.
This is basically the reason that I killfile GoogleGroups (with a few
exceptions for specific people where my wish to communicate with them
is stronger than my despair for GG).
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> Then wait for an answer from someone on GoogleGroups.
Quite. And anyone coming into Usenet from GG who presumes to lecture
the Usenet regulars on how to use newsgroups, deserves hurled into a
deep pit, frankly.
> You are of course at perfect liberty to do whatever you wish. So are
> we.
Amen, and festive greetings to you.
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| thierry38080 2005-12-21, 6:46 pm |
|
Alan J. Flavell a =E9crit :
> On Wed, 21 Dec 2005, Andy Dingley brought to light on Usenet:
>
>
> Irrelevant: the Netiquette, established over years on Usenet, hasn't
> suddenly changed because GG have cobbled-up a perverse interface
> which, by default, flies in the face of several fundamental rules of
> the netiquette.
>
> This is basically the reason that I killfile GoogleGroups (with a few
> exceptions for specific people where my wish to communicate with them
> is stronger than my despair for GG).
>
>
> Quite. And anyone coming into Usenet from GG who presumes to lecture
> the Usenet regulars on how to use newsgroups, deserves hurled into a
> deep pit, frankly.
>
>
> Amen, and festive greetings to you.
Thank you for all your responses, it's very constructive...
Merry christmas to you also !
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| Spartanicus 2005-12-21, 6:46 pm |
| Duncan Booth <duncan.booth@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>Be aware that using underscore characters in class names is likely to lead
>to grief. Underscores are permitted according to css 2.1, but not according
>to css 1.0 or css 2.0.
Underscores are permitted as per the CSS 2.0 errata. The pedants will
complain loudly that errata aren't normative, but that's a point that
pragmatists can safely ignore.
>What this means is that most browsers will simply
>ignore those rules entirely.
Name a few.
>My guess would be that Microsoft changed the supported characters in css
>identifiers between the different versions of IE.
You're wrong.
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| Alan J. Flavell 2005-12-21, 6:46 pm |
| On Wed, 21 Dec 2005, Duncan Booth wrote:
> Be aware that using underscore characters in class names is likely
> to lead to grief. Underscores are permitted according to css 2.1,
> but not according to css 1.0 or css 2.0.
A long and sorry story. I'll try not to re-open the wounds too wide
again,
> What this means is that
> most browsers will simply ignore those rules entirely.
I think you're mistaken by "most". I'd surmise "some" older
browser/versions which implement CSS2 classic.
> My guess would be that Microsoft changed the supported characters in
> css identifiers between the different versions of IE.
To the best of my recollection, it was the exact opposite. MSIE, as
usual, disregarded the mandates and guidelines for handling errors,
and tempted authors into coding underscores, which were not at that
time permitted.
Subsequently, the W3C tried to rewrite history by smuggling a
substantive change into the CSS2 specification via an errata -
something which *ought* never to happen (they could/should have
defined a new version of CSS, let's say 2.01).
The best compromise which you as an author can follow is to avoid
using underscores in this context. If you are a browser developer, on
the other hand, you'd need to compromise, and accept underscores -
despite the fact that CSS2 classic declared them to be invalid, and
thus the error handling guidelines would call for any such rule to be
skipped.
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| Duncan Booth 2005-12-21, 6:46 pm |
| Alan J. Flavell wrote:
>
> I think you're mistaken by "most". I'd surmise "some" older
> browser/versions which implement CSS2 classic.
Ok, fair enough. Most sensible browsers will simply ignore the rules in the
HTML that was posted, but that's because of the span tag being in a silly
place, not because of the underscore.
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| Michael Vilain 2005-12-21, 6:46 pm |
| In article <Xns9733BD7A4F473duncanbooth@127.0.0.1>,
Duncan Booth <duncan.booth@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Alan J. Flavell wrote:
>
>
> Ok, fair enough. Most sensible browsers will simply ignore the rules in the
> HTML that was posted, but that's because of the span tag being in a silly
> place, not because of the underscore.
Are dashes permitted in classes and IDs?
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| Michael Vilain wrote:
> Are dashes permitted in classes and IDs?
Yes.
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| Jim Moe 2005-12-21, 6:46 pm |
| thierry38080 wrote:
>
> The problem is that the style "LigneTableau_Noir_SansHauteur" seems not
> to be considered for these users.
> The whole cells are without any style : no left border of 1px, items
> not centered, and link in blue (default) insted of black like the class
> "LigneTableau_Noir_SansHauteur a.lien" is intended to do...
>
The left border disappeared because you explicitly specified it in
td.sans and td.celD12. Delete "border-left-style:none".
The right border looks strange because you left the color to the
browser's imagination.
The cells do not center because you did not specify it. You did for <tr>
but that contains only <td>s, not text. Move "text-align:center" to td.
I had no problem with the link color. It works like you specified it.
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| thierry38080 2005-12-22, 6:49 am |
|
Jim Moe wrote:
> The left border disappeared because you explicitly specified it in
> td.sans and td.celD12. Delete "border-left-style:none".
No, I want that, the cols val3 and val5 don't have left border and it's
normal. Because the "td" is defined with a left border, I had to
declare another class "sans" (it's french, that means "without") and
celD2 is the rightest cell of my table.
I know, it's a bit complicated, but I have a big problematic of HTML
weight. I have to factorize the more I can to produce the lightest
code.
In production environment, this table can contain more than 600 lines,
so I must have the less css code. So I prefer make a global td class
with a left border, and apply a specific class to the cells that do not
have a left border.
> The right border looks strange because you left the color to the
> browser's imagination.
I don't think so because the border-color is defined for the td class
> The cells do not center because you did not specify it. You did for <tr>
> but that contains only <td>s, not text. Move "text-align:center" to td.
You're right, that's a mistake, I corrected it !
> I had no problem with the link color. It works like you specified it.
That's the problem in fact, I didn't find anyone that had a problem
displaying this page !
My customers says that they don't even see the borders nor the link
colors...
I think I'm going to :
- remove the unserscores in class names
- apply the class on each tr (<tr class="LigneTableauNoirSansHauteur"
....) and restest it with my customers...
Thanks a lot !
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| Jim Moe 2005-12-22, 7:01 pm |
| thierry38080 wrote:
>
> That's the problem in fact, I didn't find anyone that had a problem
> displaying this page !
> My customers says that they don't even see the borders nor the link
> colors...
>
What browser are they using?
Can you post an URL for a complete page? There is apparently something
else that prevents the display you desire.
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| thierry38080 2005-12-23, 3:32 am |
|
Jim Moe a =E9crit :
> What browser are they using?
> Can you post an URL for a complete page? There is apparently something
> else that prevents the display you desire.
I'm using IE 6.0.2900 on Win XP SP2 and the customers having this
problem are on IE 6.0.2800 on Win XP SP1.
Since the beginning, I made a few changes on my code :
- I removed the undescores in the class names
- I apply a class on each TR tag now :
<tr class=3D"LigneTableauNoirSansHauteur" id=3D"li0">
But it still not works... I dream of that problem each night now, it's
a nightmare...
Do you think that the id=3D"li0" on the TR tag could be a problem ?
Perhaps does the browser make a confusion between the id and the
class...
Also, is this syntax correct ?
.LigneTableauNoirSansHauteur td {
border-color: black;
border-left-style: solid;
border-left-width: 1px;
}
This means that all TD tags within a LigneTableauNoirSansHauteur class
must have a border on the left, doesn't it ? Am I wrong ? Is ther
another way to do so ?
Because all my program is based on that, in order to lighten the code
at its maximum...
Finally, I can't give a link to a full page because the site is on
intranet.
But I took the fisrt line of the table in the page that cause problem,
I didn't modify anything else (except moving the css style for an
external stylesheet to the page itself).
Thanks for your help !
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| thierry38080 wrote:
> Jim Moe a écrit :
>
>
> I'm using IE 6.0.2900 on Win XP SP2 and the customers having this
> problem are on IE 6.0.2800 on Win XP SP1.
> Since the beginning, I made a few changes on my code :
> - I removed the undescores in the class names
> - I apply a class on each TR tag now :
> <tr class="LigneTableauNoirSansHauteur" id="li0">
>
> But it still not works... I dream of that problem each night now, it's
> a nightmare...
> Do you think that the id="li0" on the TR tag could be a problem ?
> Perhaps does the browser make a confusion between the id and the
> class...
> Also, is this syntax correct ?
> .LigneTableauNoirSansHauteur td {
> border-color: black;
> border-left-style: solid;
> border-left-width: 1px;
> }
> This means that all TD tags within a LigneTableauNoirSansHauteur class
> must have a border on the left, doesn't it ? Am I wrong ? Is ther
> another way to do so ?
> Because all my program is based on that, in order to lighten the code
> at its maximum...
>
> Finally, I can't give a link to a full page because the site is on
> intranet.
> But I took the fisrt line of the table in the page that cause problem,
> I didn't modify anything else (except moving the css style for an
> external stylesheet to the page itself).
But..: Did you show the example you made for us to your clients as
well? Did they confirm to have the same problem in the example as they
are having on the real page?
I think to find out the problem, you need to start with the most basic
of tables, nothing else on the page, and be on the phone with one
hopefully helpful client, and keep adding stuff until s/he says it
goes wrong.
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| thierry38080 2005-12-23, 6:28 am |
|
Els wrote:
>
> But..: Did you show the example you made for us to your clients as
> well? Did they confirm to have the same problem in the example as they
> are having on the real page?
>
> I think to find out the problem, you need to start with the most basic
> of tables, nothing else on the page, and be on the phone with one
> hopefully helpful client, and keep adding stuff until s/he says it
> goes wrong.
>
I agree with you, this would be the better way to proceed, but it's not
possible because my customers are working very hard and don't have any
time to spend to help me...
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| thierry38080 wrote:
> Els wrote:
>
> I agree with you, this would be the better way to proceed, but it's not
> possible because my customers are working very hard and don't have any
> time to spend to help me...
Well, if you validate your code, and it's working on everybody's
system except on theirs, and they don't have time to find out whether
it's a setting on their system... not much more you can do really.
(unless you can still find someone else on SP1 to confirm your problem
of course)
But you didn't answer my question - did your customer confirm the
problem was apparent in your example as well? It's very much possible
it isn't, and the problem lies elsewhere in the stylesheet or HTML
code of the real page.
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| thierry38080 2005-12-23, 6:28 am |
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Els a =E9crit :
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> Well, if you validate your code, and it's working on everybody's
> system except on theirs, and they don't have time to find out whether
> it's a setting on their system... not much more you can do really.
I have a group of 9 customers that are trying new functionnalities of
our intranet.
In this little group, I already have 3 that have this problem.
I don't think it's a problem of system configuration because it seems
like the class was ignored...
I have to resolve the problem because in 2 weeks we will upload these
new functionnalities for the whole intranet (about 180 customers). I
can't imagine having 60 customers calling me for a problem I would have
ignored...
>
> (unless you can still find someone else on SP1 to confirm your problem
> of course)
>
Exactly, I think I have no choice but installing a SP1 machine on a
partition to try this...
> But you didn't answer my question - did your customer confirm the
> problem was apparent in your example as well? It's very much possible
> it isn't, and the problem lies elsewhere in the stylesheet or HTML
> code of the real page.
>
For the same reason, they don't have a minute to test my exemple, they
simply want it to work, I know, it's very boring but I don't have any
other choice...
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| thierry38080 wrote:
> Els a écrit :
>
>
> I have a group of 9 customers that are trying new functionnalities of
> our intranet.
> In this little group, I already have 3 that have this problem.
> I don't think it's a problem of system configuration because it seems
> like the class was ignored...
> I have to resolve the problem because in 2 weeks we will upload these
> new functionnalities for the whole intranet (about 180 customers). I
> can't imagine having 60 customers calling me for a problem I would have
> ignored...
>
>
> Exactly, I think I have no choice but installing a SP1 machine on a
> partition to try this...
Or erm.. have your customers upgrade to SP2 ...
>
> For the same reason, they don't have a minute to test my exemple, they
> simply want it to work, I know, it's very boring but I don't have any
> other choice...
And you are sure your actual Intranet real page with problem
validates?
Cause really, if the example you gave us isn't tested to show the
problem, how are we ever gonna be able to find what's wrong?
Problems are usually caused by combinations that are bad, and if you
only took one piece from the problem to show in an example, chances
are that in that example there is no problem.
FWIW, you could easily have a contradicting style somewhere in your
stylesheet, or a parent element in the HTML. You won't find that by
validating though, nor by showing us half the code.
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| thierry38080 2005-12-23, 6:34 pm |
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Spartanicus a =E9crit :
> http://homepage.ntlworld.ie/spartanicus/temp.png
>
Arggggg ! I don't understand anything more now...
Thank you for your help Spartanicus, there are two alternatives now :
- my test page is correct but it's not the reflect of the reality
because it's just a portion of the whole page
- SP1 is not the cause of the problem ?
I'm going to contact one of these 3 customers having trouble, I can't
do anything else, so don't you, I thank you very much for your help and
your patience (and your comprehension for my poor english...)
I come back and give you news as soon as possible !
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| thierry38080 2005-12-24, 6:14 am |
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thierry38080 a =E9crit :
> I'm going to contact one of these 3 customers having trouble, I can't
> do anything else, so don't you, I thank you very much for your help and
> your patience (and your comprehension for my poor english...)
> I come back and give you news as soon as possible !
I just put online the complete page that causes problems :
http://tschinfo.free.fr/test.html
Could you test it and telle me if you see the vertical lines ?
Thanks a lot and merry christmas !!!
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| Spartanicus 2005-12-24, 6:14 am |
| "thierry38080" <thierryschneider@XXXXXXXXXX> wrote:
>I just put online the complete page that causes problems :
>http://tschinfo.free.fr/test.html
>Could you test it and telle me if you see the vertical lines ?
I'd say you've got far more urgent problems to fix like overlapping
content, a font size that is difficult to change for most IE users etc.
http://homepage.ntlworld.ie/spartanicus/temp2.png
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| thierry38080 2005-12-27, 6:28 am |
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Jim Moe a =E9crit :
> Wow! That rendered a LOT better than it does with Mozilla v1.7.12.
> Image 1 shows the page with my usual minimum font size set (15 px).
> Image 2 is without the minimum size.
> Image 1: <http://twosohnens.us/test/test-mz1.png>
> Image 2: <http://twosohnens.us/test/test-mz2.png>
>
I solved the problem !
The problem was that the linked css stylesheet was not reloaded by some
customers !
Theses customers use a proxy that seems not to refresh its cache
correctly !
For information, I had put the css stylesheet online 2 weeks ago and it
was still not reloaded !
The solution : I created another stylesheet and linked the asp pages to
this new one.
And it works !
So : XP SP1 was NOT the problem neither IE 6.0.2800 but the PROXY !!!
Thanks a lot for your help !
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| Spartanicus 2005-12-27, 6:28 am |
| "thierry38080" <thierryschneider@XXXXXXXXXX> wrote:
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>I solved the problem !
Jay.
>The problem was that the linked css stylesheet was not reloaded by some
>customers !
Oh, so you've chosen to ignore the real problems, oh well, we tried.
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| kchayka 2005-12-27, 7:01 pm |
| thierry38080 wrote:
> Jim Moe a écrit :
>
>
> I solved the problem !
I don't think so.
> The solution : I created another stylesheet and linked the asp pages to
> this new one.
> And it works !
No, it doesn't.
<URL:http://kchayka.c-net.us/test/screenshots/tschinfo.png>
I have difficulty believing that this is the way you intended it to
render. It's nasty. But that's not really surprising, considering the
quality of the code.
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