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Author Re: OT: new Google groups (was: Re: Firefox print background image
Alan J. Flavell

2005-01-29, 7:16 am

On Sat, 29 Jan 2005, Spartanicus wrote:

> The posting conventions in the web authoring groups are afaik not
> the norm,


The norm for which groups? There's a well-established netiquette for
the big-8 hierarchies, which includes comp.*. AFAICS, the c.i.w.*
groups don't ask for anything that isn't the established custom in the
big-8 hierarchies, and are, I'd say, relatively lax compared with e.g
some comp.lang.* groups.

But that doesn't mean there's no benefit in following netiquette
guidelines on other groups: just that people there are less likely to
step in and try to help someone who's considered to be misbehaving
(and more likely to just silently drop them into the killfile).

> Given the way Google groups currently works it's probably a bit much
> to expect users to follow the posting conventions that apply here.


That depends on what you mean by "expect". The netiquette isn't for
its own sake, but is a long-established collection of guidelines which
promote effective communication in this particular medium.

When visiting a new country, it's advisable to observe the natives for
a little while, and try to make a reasonable impression, don't you
think? A pity that Google have over-reached themselves and think they
can colonise the territory instead of fitting-in. Russ Allbery made
the classic response to that approach.

> So instead of blaming users for what is more Google's fault I've
> added Google groups to the other usenet web interfaces who's
> messages I filter.


I'm not arguing with your conclusion, indeed.

all the best
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