Stylesheets - Help for a newbie please. Working ok in IE but not in FF or N/scape

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Help for a newbie please. Working ok in IE but not in FF or N/scape - 2nd request

Paul Burke

2005-01-24, 7:21 pm

Hi all
I have been making a web site for a friend and was written in html
with a splash of css (for fonts, h1 etc)

I am starting to re-write it (if I can) using as much css as possible
without using too many hacks etc.

Here are two pages that I have done using css.
http://tinyurl.com/5r73f
http://tinyurl.com/4t7yg

- sorry for the "tiny" urls. It is just that I don't want the addy
showing up in forums etc. -

I know I need to do a footer, and the page needs tweaking, but it is
the layout I want to get right first. And it just ain't happening. :(

If you look at the last two links in IE, then you will see that IE is
showing it the way I would like. - box around the "contents" area and
shows wider on screen.

Unfortunately Firefox and Netscape do not.
Both of these browsers are placing the border around the top section
only and the text is in a narrower screen.

It is probably something silly like a misplaced div that is the cause
of the problem, but if anybody can help on this please, it will save
me more hours pulling my hair over it.

I hope I have explained it clear enough. Sorry if I haven't

Thank you for any help
Kind Regards
Paul

Neal

2005-01-24, 11:17 pm

Paul Burke <webmaster@firstpeople.us> wrote:

Replying to the subject line:

If it is one way in IE and another in all other browsers, it is close
to certainty that IE is wrong.

Get it right in the other browsers first. Then fix for IE.

Els

2005-01-25, 7:23 am

Ali Babba wrote:

> Neal wrote:
>
>
> if over 90% of all people on the net use IE,

Not anymore, or so I heard..

> and the
> remaining percentages are fragmented by dozins of other
> browsers, you are well adviced to give IE the priority.

But it's easier to get it right in other browsers and then fix
for IE then vice versa. Try it :-)

--
Els
http://locusmeus.com/
Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito.
- Renato Russo -

phil_gg04@treefic.com

2005-01-25, 7:23 am

Hi Paul,

I had a look at your pages using Firefox and it wasn't clear what the
problem was. I suggest that you create a minimal example and post
that; you may get more feedback.

Regards, Phil.

Paul Burke

2005-01-25, 7:23 am

On 25 Jan 2005 02:43:48 -0800, phil_gg04@treefic.com wrote:

>Hi Paul,
>
>I had a look at your pages using Firefox and it wasn't clear what the
>problem was. I suggest that you create a minimal example and post
>that; you may get more feedback.
>
>Regards, Phil.

Hi Phil
It is possible that you looked at the page after I uploaded another
menu.css (early hours of GMT)
After speaking to kchayka, I went off and played with the css and now
have it almost correct in all browsers.
It is still not 100% the way I like it, but close. :)

Sorry if I wasted your time if you looked after the change.

Thank you to you and all the others that have tried to help.
I really do appreciate it.
I am doing all this unpaid, but with the hope of getting a job later
on.
I would love to get my other site done in css, but I think it wont be
possible. Not with the layout I have.

Thanks again everyone.
plh
Paul

Els

2005-01-25, 12:39 pm

Ali Babba wrote:

> Els wrote:
>

[quotes rearranged]
[color=darkred]
> lees de krant van gisteren
> http://www.telegraaf.nl/i-mail/1749...el_Firefox_blij
> ft_groeien.html

[In English in short: According to websidestory the use of IE
is currently 92.7%.]

> http://www.websidestory.com/pressro...leases.html?id=
> 238&ctl=x08x087h29ub

Use of IE in the US as per 3 December: 91.80%

In this article:
http://www.ecommercetimes.com/story/38667.html
it shows that in Europe it's already below 90%.

That, plus keeping in mind that Opera's default behaviour is
to identify itself as IE, leads me to believe that it's
actually lower already.

Stats for my own site show even less btw (around 60%), but I
admit it's not a commercial site, so not at all
representative.
[color=darkred]

Still, the following point stands:
[color=darkred]

--
Els
http://locusmeus.com/
Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito.
- Renato Russo -

Paul Burke

2005-01-25, 12:39 pm

On 25 Jan 2005 02:43:48 -0800, phil_gg04@treefic.com wrote:

>Hi Paul,
>
>I had a look at your pages using Firefox and it wasn't clear what the
>problem was. I suggest that you create a minimal example and post
>that; you may get more feedback.
>
>Regards, Phil.

Hi again.
Well, I now having it looking pretty much ok in IE, NS and FF, but
when I try to validate the css, I get the following errors on my div#

Invalid number : clipParse Error

Trying to get my head around it and doesn't help when on Dreamweaver 4
as that uses css1 and afaik, what I am doing is css 2

At this rate I think I will go back to html. :(

I've read what it said about clipping, and I sort of get what it is on
about, but fixing it so it validates, is the problem.

Oh well.

If anyone has any ideas/fixes, I would really appreciate it.
And please, in laymans terms, I am no techy as you can guess <G>

plh
Paul