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barry@motivateddesign.co.uk

2007-06-26, 6:18 pm

Hi all,

putting myself out on a limb.
i am just starting life as a freelance web designer, and would value
any (nice) feedback on my site
www.motivateddesign.co.uk
Also looking for work - people wanting creative CSS, XHTML sites,
nothing to big etc

Regards

Barry Cooper

Frank Vest

2007-06-26, 6:18 pm

line 68 column 6 - Warning: trimming empty <p>
line 79 column 74 - Warning: trimming empty <span>

Other than that, it looks fine to me ... but what do I know? :)

Regards,
Frank


barry@motivateddesign.co.uk wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> putting myself out on a limb.
> i am just starting life as a freelance web designer, and would value
> any (nice) feedback on my site
> www.motivateddesign.co.uk
> Also looking for work - people wanting creative CSS, XHTML sites,
> nothing to big etc
>
> Regards
>
> Barry Cooper
>

Chris F.A. Johnson

2007-06-26, 6:18 pm

On 2007-06-26, barry@motivateddesign.co.uk wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> putting myself out on a limb.
> i am just starting life as a freelance web designer, and would value
> any (nice) feedback on my site
> www.motivateddesign.co.uk
> Also looking for work - people wanting creative CSS, XHTML sites,
> nothing to big etc


<http://cfaj.freeshell.org/testing/motiv.jpg>

Why use a transitional doctype for a new page?

Why XHTML?

Why fixed px widths? They mean that the page doesn't fill a wide
window, and introduces horizontal scrolling on narrower windows.

--
Chris F.A. Johnson <http://cfaj.freeshell.org>
===================================================================
Author:
Shell Scripting Recipes: A Problem-Solution Approach (2005, Apress)
Beauregard T. Shagnasty

2007-06-26, 6:18 pm

barry@motivateddesign.co.uk wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> putting myself out on a limb.


by multi-posting. You already have answers in alt.html.

This actually should have been the one group to post to.

http://oakroadsystems.com/genl/unice.htm#xpost

--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck
barry@motivateddesign.co.uk

2007-06-26, 6:18 pm

On Jun 26, 9:14 pm, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty"
<a.nony.m...@example.invalid> wrote:
> b...@motivateddesign.co.uk wrote:
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> by multi-posting. You already have answers in alt.html.
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> This actually should have been the one group to post to.
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> http://oakroadsystems.com/genl/unice.htm#xpost
>
> --
> -bts
> -Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck


Sorry

I am new to google forms, and was just following advice. I will be
sure to post stuff in on place in future.

Regards

Barry

Beauregard T. Shagnasty

2007-06-26, 10:16 pm

barry@motivateddesign.co.uk wrote:

> On Jun 26, 9:14 pm, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty"
> <a.nony.m...@example.invalid> wrote:
>
> Sorry


Accepted. :-)

> I am new to google forms,


Whoa! This isn't Google! This is Usenet. You are, however, accessing
through the abominable Google Groups interface. What you should do is
use a real news service and a newsreader. There is lately so much chaff
and crap posted to Usenet via Google Groups that zillions of people are
beginning to filter out *all* posters who use GG. See Blinky's page for
some reasons why:

http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html

--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck
Jim Moe

2007-06-26, 10:16 pm

barry@motivateddesign.co.uk wrote:
>
> putting myself out on a limb.
> i am just starting life as a freelance web designer, and would value
> any (nice) feedback on my site
> www.motivateddesign.co.uk
>

Your graphics design and color scheme is quite nice, appealing. (That
was nice.)

Your page markup is not so good.
- Use of XHTML, and why Transitional?
Are you generating the Web pages from an XML source with XSLT? And is
that same XML source generating print output or PDF? If not, there is no
reason to use XHTML. Use HTML Strict instead.
- The body text size is 12 px, 75% of my preferred size, and too damn
small to read.
- Fixed width design.
- The layout degrades to unreadability in places when to font size is
increased even by 120%. Particularly noticeable on the Services page.
- Div-itis: Replacing standard markup elements with CSS-defined classes
that do the same thing. E.g.: .h1, .h2., .h3. There is a net loss of
information since HTML, the HyperText MARKUP Language, is not being used
to mark up much.
- Replacing block elements (h1, h2, p) with a <span>, in inline element.
What's with that?
- The W3C logos mean nothing to most people, and is simply expected by
those who do know what they represent.

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(Remove .AXSPAMGN for email)
barry@motivateddesign.co.uk

2007-06-27, 3:16 am

On Jun 27, 2:04 am, Jim Moe <jmm-list.AXSPA...@sohnen-moe.com> wrote:
> b...@motivateddesign.co.uk wrote:
>
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> Your graphics design and color scheme is quite nice, appealing. (That
> was nice.)
>
> Your page markup is not so good.
> - Use of XHTML, and why Transitional?
> Are you generating the Web pages from an XML source with XSLT? And is
> that same XML source generating print output or PDF? If not, there is no
> reason to use XHTML. Use HTML Strict instead.
> - The body text size is 12 px, 75% of my preferred size, and too damn
> small to read.
> - Fixed width design.
> - The layout degrades to unreadability in places when to font size is
> increased even by 120%. Particularly noticeable on the Services page.
> - Div-itis: Replacing standard markup elements with CSS-defined classes
> that do the same thing. E.g.: .h1, .h2., .h3. There is a net loss of
> information since HTML, the HyperText MARKUP Language, is not being used
> to mark up much.
> - Replacing block elements (h1, h2, p) with a <span>, in inline element.
> What's with that?
> - The W3C logos mean nothing to most people, and is simply expected by
> those who do know what they represent.
>
> --
> jmm (hyphen) list (at) sohnen-moe (dot) com
> (Remove .AXSPAMGN for email)


Thanks everyone for your advice,

I have spent the last 5 years teaching computer science in school, and
have had enough.
Then had a bright idea, you used to be a web designer, may be I should
do that again.
But that was in the days of the good old table and I am learning CSS
stuff as a go along.
Teaching does not (in my experience) allow time to learn interesting
new stuff.

I will try to make all of the recommended changes and if I feel brave
post the site again for another going over.

Regards and thanks again

Barry

Chaddy2222

2007-06-27, 10:17 pm

On Jun 27, 4:41 pm, "b...@motivateddesign.co.uk"
<b...@motivateddesign.co.uk> wrote:
> On Jun 27, 2:04 am, Jim Moe <jmm-list.AXSPA...@sohnen-moe.com> wrote:
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> Thanks everyone for your advice,
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> I have spent the last 5 years teaching computer science in school, and
> have had enough.
> Then had a bright idea, you used to be a web designer, may be I should
> do that again.
> But that was in the days of the good old table and I am learning CSS
> stuff as a go along.
> Teaching does not (in my experience) allow time to learn interesting
> new stuff.
>
> I will try to make all of the recommended changes and if I feel brave
> post the site again for another going over.
>
> Regards and thanks again
>
> Barry.

You should also read, http://www.w3.org/TR/WAI-WEBCONTENT/full-checklist.html
web accessibility is now law in the UK as well as other countries.
--
Regards Chad. http://freewebdesign.awardspace.biz



Chaddy2222

2007-06-27, 10:17 pm

On Jun 27, 5:39 pm, "b...@motivateddesign.co.uk"
<b...@motivateddesign.co.uk> wrote:
> On Jun 27, 8:30 am, Chaddy2222 <spamlovermailbox-
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> I have looked at the document and think I understand most of it.
> Are there any good books on this subject?
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> Thanks
>
> Barry

Hi Bary, the full WCAG document can be found here http://www.w3.org/TR/WAI-WEBCONTENT/
and if you want a good general book on web design, then check out
http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com
I hope that helps.
--
Regards Chad. http://freewebdesign.awardspace.biz


Andy Dingley

2007-06-27, 10:17 pm

On 27 Jun, 08:20, Chaddy2222 <spamlovermailbox-sicur...@yahoo.com.au>
wrote:

> You should also read,http://www.w3.org/TR/WAI-WEBCONTENT/full-checklist.html
> web accessibility is now law in the UK as well as other countries.


It's a good idea to study accessibility, but the W3C are not a good
resource for it. You'd be much better off with Joe Clark's book (free
online)

barry@motivateddesign.co.uk

2007-06-27, 10:17 pm

On Jun 27, 11:00 am, Andy Dingley <ding...@codesmiths.com> wrote:
> On 27 Jun, 08:20, Chaddy2222 <spamlovermailbox-sicur...@yahoo.com.au>
> wrote:
>
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> It's a good idea to study accessibility, but the W3C are not a good
> resource for it. You'd be much better off with Joe Clark's book (free
> online)


Thanks for that,

I had a look at Joe Clark's book - The information looks good, but I
have trouble reading it because of the serif font used on screen.
I may just buy it.

Regards

Barry

barry@motivateddesign.co.uk

2007-06-27, 10:17 pm

On Jun 27, 8:30 am, Chaddy2222 <spamlovermailbox-
sicur...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> On Jun 27, 5:20 pm, Chaddy2222 <spamlovermailbox-
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> it read better.
> --
> Regards Chad.http://freewebdesign.awardspace.biz


Thank Chad,

I have looked at the document and think I understand most of it.
Are there any good books on this subject?

Thanks

Barry

Chaddy2222

2007-06-27, 10:17 pm

On Jun 27, 8:00 pm, Andy Dingley <ding...@codesmiths.com> wrote:
> On 27 Jun, 08:20, Chaddy2222 <spamlovermailbox-sicur...@yahoo.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>
> It's a good idea to study accessibility, but the W3C are not a good
> resource for it. You'd be much better off with Joe Clark's book (free
> online)

Thanks for that suggestion Andy. I must say after Googleing Joe Clark,
I came across his article on WCAG 2.0 and found it interesting. After
reading parts of the final draft I actually did not think it was that
bad but after reading what J C said / wrote on the topic I is not
convinced that the new guidelines will be any good. Actually I thought
the 1.0 guidelines were bad enough about not being understand, but
these new ones will just not help anyone (from what I have read). How
the hell would a law enforcement agency decide on what all those long
worded statements on multimedia meant, (especially with cases
concerning where some thing are allowed or not).
In fact it could be said that these new guidelines are a step
backwards as they do not recommend the separation of presentation and
content.


--
Regards Chad. http://freewebdesign.awardspace.biz

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