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JonCC

2005-08-19, 7:34 pm

Any feedback greatly appreciated.


JonCC

2005-08-19, 7:34 pm

Doh

www.claythecromercrab.com



Barbara de Zoete

2005-08-19, 7:34 pm

On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 20:10:53 +0000 (UTC), JonCC <c4@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Any feedback greatly appreciated.
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Erm... The mindreaders group is just around the corner


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Barbara de Zoete

2005-08-19, 7:34 pm

On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 20:12:36 +0000 (UTC), JonCC <c4@btinternet.com> wrote:

> www.claythecromercrab.com


A bad design. And some depricated way to code your pages too.

Read back about a week of posts in alt.html, alt.html.critique,
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html, comp.infosystems.www.authoting.stylesheets.
That will give you more than enough to go with. And it saves the participants in
these groups the time it otherwise would have taken to repeat themselves. Again.

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Blinky the Shark

2005-08-19, 7:34 pm

Barbara de Zoete wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 20:10:53 +0000 (UTC), JonCC <c4@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
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> Erm... The mindreaders group is just around the corner


<--- That way?

Or over there? --->

I can never remember.


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Jim Moe

2005-08-19, 11:18 pm

JonCC wrote:
> Any feedback greatly appreciated.
>

Coding problems:
- 9 HTML validation errors.
- "sans" is not a valid CSS element. It should be "sans-serif". Unless you
really have a font named "sans"? Then you should have sans-serif as an
explicit default.
- Use of inline STYLEs. That's just replacing one bad habit ("tag soup")
with another.
- Poor use of <Hx> elements. In fact you have only <h1> elements which
indicates you are using it for styling, not markup.
There should be only one <h1>. That is why there is <h2>, <h3>, etc.

Design problems:
- Use of tables for layout considered harmful. Bad designer! Bad! See
<http://www.csszengarden.com/>; the *same HTML* is used for all of the
different designs.
- Use of tables for navigation considered ridiculous ("That is sooo
1998!"). See <http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/>

- The text flows over the crab image in the center section. Clearing a
float immediately after declaring it is a bad plan. Discover <div>'s.
- Why set the text size so small (85%)? It defeats my preferred,
comfortable size and requires that I adjust my browser to suit your
tastes. Fie on thee!
- You take away the link underline and provide no alternative. It is an
easter egg hunt for links: I must wave the mouse over all of the place to
discover where it changes the pointer's icon.
You further aggravate the link problem by using the same font for
header elements as for links. I cannot visually distinguish one from the
other.
- Is the form data validated at the server? If you depend on the
javascript to do form validation, you open yourself to a variety of
attacks. Suppose I have javascript disabled?

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mbstevens

2005-08-19, 11:18 pm

JonCC wrote:
> Doh
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> www.claythecromercrab.com
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Cromer?
_I_ don't know what that is, so you'd better
not expect little kids to.

And, it's wringing the old alliterative towel dry.
Bugs doesn't need to to be the Bumptious Bunny,
he's just Bugs Bunny. If the purpose of the site isn't to boost
crab awareness among pre-teens -- well, you can see where I'm
going with this.

The illustrations are good.

Your page uses deprecated markup. Perhaps your source of
information is old. Try changing to more modern markup.
The most common sympton of deprecated markup is
placing instructions about where or how a thing is displayed in
the (X)HTML markup instead of CSS.
For instance td colspan="2" bgcolor="#1395ED" align="center"
mixed with CSS.

Your page uses non-semantic markup. There is a special
tag for almost anything you'll need, but you are ignoring
these tags. On these pages, paragraphs are inside <td>s, for
instance. (I can accept the use of tables on this particular
site, however, because of their associaton across rows with
images.)

The links have a rather flat feel when navigating, because they
are missing a CSS 'hover' behavior.
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Blinky the Shark

2005-08-19, 11:18 pm

Jim Moe wrote:

> - Use of inline STYLEs. That's just replacing one bad habit ("tag
> soup") with another.


Needs a snappy name. How about...yeah, that's it! How about "style
stew"? Ties right in. :)


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Edwin van der Vaart

2005-08-20, 7:17 am

Blinky the Shark wrote:
> Jim Moe wrote:
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> Needs a snappy name. How about...yeah, that's it! How about "style
> stew"? Ties right in. :)

It sounds right, but taste right...
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the idiot

2005-08-20, 11:30 pm


"JonCC" <c4@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:de5efk$1g3$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
> Doh
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> www.claythecromercrab.com
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you need to have a look at it in firefox i think
and opera.


NewEra

2005-08-23, 10:08 am

quote:
Originally posted by JonCC
Doh

www.claythecromercrab.com




it's a fair design
but 4 kids u need more living colors and pic
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