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Cien

2005-07-05, 11:31 pm

Please let me know what you think of http://www.cienpsp.com/

I've checked it in FF and some things are off by a pixel or two, but it
pretty much looks how I want it.

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mbstevens

2005-07-05, 11:31 pm

Cien wrote:
> Please let me know what you think of http://www.cienpsp.com/
>
> I've checked it in FF and some things are off by a pixel or two, but it
> pretty much looks how I want it.
>

Looks pretty good.

Generally, you'll be much better off throwing JavaScript into its own
file. Other pages can then use the same script, and you won't be mixing
code with markup. You often see huge fights over CSS markup because
some of us think it's a better design to never mix markup and display.
This is a similar thing. It still works, but would be easier for you
to maintain and for others to read. And that CDATA markup has always
been just kludgy looking to me.

The iframy-looking 'shoutbox' div is fun as a demo of concept, I guess,
but my browser (Moz on Slackware) puts both vertical and horizontal
scrollbars around a small box -- kind of cramped looking. The box's
content does show up even in the 'Links' browser. Hopefully the box's
content will make more sense when the page is more finished. Instead of
cramping things up in a scrolling box, I'd just put it toward the bottom
of the page and let the content take up however much space it needs.

The poll, like the 'shoutbox', seems to work nicely, but you have to ask
yourself, "does anyone really give a fig what browsers are most popular
on this page?" Instead of all this demo - of - concept stuff, why don't
you bring the turorials into more focus on the front page -- it'll at
least be 'real' content.

Both CSS and markup validate, thanks.
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Spartanicus

2005-07-06, 7:47 pm

"Cien" <hellsaint@XnoneX.com> wrote:

>Please let me know what you think of http://www.cienpsp.com/

><?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>

Are you aware that you are kicking IE into quirks mode?

><img src="gfx/fs_header1.gif" width="238" height="88" alt="news" />

Incorrect alt content and should be marked up as the h1.

><h1 id="h1">NEWS</h1>

Is your site about "news"?

>style="border: none;"

No need for inline CSS.

><br />

Use padding or margins.

><img class="smileys" src="./shoutbox/smileys/smile.gif" alt=":)"

Inappropriate alt content, earlier in the source you made a more
sensible choice:

><img alt="wink" src="http://cienpsp.com/cutenews/data/emoticons/wink.gif" />

><img src="gfx/fs_border.gif" width="600" height="5" alt="" />

Decoration should be done with CSS.

Valid HTML / CSS buttons: don't mention the mechanics.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/spartanicus/cienpsp1.png
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/spartanicus/cienpsp2.png
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/spartanicus/cienpsp3.png

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Cien

2005-07-09, 7:18 am

"mbstevens" <NOXwebmasterx@xmbstevensx.com> wrote in message
news:VSGye.4236$8f7.1472@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> Cien wrote:
>
> Looks pretty good.
>
> Generally, you'll be much better off throwing JavaScript into its own
> file. Other pages can then use the same script, and you won't be mixing
> code with markup. You often see huge fights over CSS markup because some
> of us think it's a better design to never mix markup and display. This is
> a similar thing. It still works, but would be easier for you to
> maintain and for others to read. And that CDATA markup has always been
> just kludgy looking to me.
>
> The iframy-looking 'shoutbox' div is fun as a demo of concept, I guess,
> but my browser (Moz on Slackware) puts both vertical and horizontal
> scrollbars around a small box -- kind of cramped looking. The box's
> content does show up even in the 'Links' browser. Hopefully the box's
> content will make more sense when the page is more finished. Instead of
> cramping things up in a scrolling box, I'd just put it toward the bottom
> of the page and let the content take up however much space it needs.
>
> The poll, like the 'shoutbox', seems to work nicely, but you have to ask
> yourself, "does anyone really give a fig what browsers are most popular on
> this page?" Instead of all this demo - of - concept stuff, why don't you
> bring the turorials into more focus on the front page -- it'll at least be
> 'real' content.
>
> Both CSS and markup validate, thanks.

Thanks for that. I'll be sure to move the javascript to a seperate file and
remove the scrollbars on the shoutbox.

Polls and shoutboxes aren't the focus of most sites. They just give visitors
something to do. I use the shoutbox to communicate with visitors quickly, as
oppose to email.

SpaceGirl

2005-07-12, 12:05 am

Cien wrote:
> Please let me know what you think of http://www.cienpsp.com/
>
> I've checked it in FF and some things are off by a pixel or two, but it
> pretty much looks how I want it.
>

Excellant!!! Love it on lots of levels :)

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