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Cezar

2004-09-28, 7:26 am

Hello everyone.

Please review our web page:
http://www.helpdeskics.com/

and let me know about any suggestion. I'll be very glad, to see some
opinion how it works on most PC browser, especially on Mac or Linux.

Thanks in advance for any replies/reviews. It is greatly appreciated.
Please ignore texts in not english language.

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Regards, Cezar.
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Inger Helene Falch-Jacobsen

2004-09-28, 7:26 am

Cezar wrote:
> Hello everyone.
>
> Please review our web page:
> http://www.helpdeskics.com/
>
> and let me know about any suggestion. I'll be very glad, to see some
> opinion how it works on most PC browser, especially on Mac or Linux.
>
> Thanks in advance for any replies/reviews. It is greatly appreciated.
> Please ignore texts in not english language.
>


Hi Cezar,
pages look fine in Firefox (Windows XP).
I don't understand Polish, but make sure that
everything is accessible even when Javascript is
disabled.


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Inger Helene Falch-Jacobsen
http://home.online.no/~ingerfaj/
Cezar

2004-09-28, 7:26 am

Inger Helene Falch-Jacobsen napisaƂ(a):

> Hi Cezar,
> pages look fine in Firefox (Windows XP).


That's brilliant.

> I don't understand Polish, but make sure that everything is accessible
> even when Javascript is disabled.


I think it will be work fine everywhere with javascript off.

There is no english language, but soon, very soon will be ;-)

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Regards, Cezar.
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jake

2004-09-28, 7:26 am

In message <cj9fdt$aas$7@nemesis.news.tpi.pl>, Cezar
<cezaryk@imail.net.pl> writes
>Hello everyone.
>
>Please review our web page:
>http://www.helpdeskics.com/
>
>and let me know about any suggestion. I'll be very glad, to see some
>opinion how it works on most PC browser, especially on Mac or Linux.
>
>Thanks in advance for any replies/reviews. It is greatly appreciated.
>Please ignore texts in not english language.
>

Not speaking Polish and just looking at the first page:

You claim WAI-AAA conformance -- but you shouldn't.

You need to revisit the page with Priority 3 -- 4.2 in mind.

regards.

PS. What does this mean?
Uwaga! Brak obslugi Javascript. Funkcjonalnosc strony moze byc
ograniczona.

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Jake
Cezar

2004-09-28, 7:26 am

jake napisaƂ(a):

> Not speaking Polish and just looking at the first page:
>
> You claim WAI-AAA conformance -- but you shouldn't.
>
> You need to revisit the page with Priority 3 -- 4.2 in mind.


You right, but soon, very soon will be in english. For 7-14 days.

> regards.
>
> PS. What does this mean?
> Uwaga! Brak obslugi Javascript. Funkcjonalnosc strony moze byc ograniczona.


This mean:
"You have javascript switch off. Some funcionality of web page may be
restrict."

--
Regards, Cezar.
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Cezar

2004-09-28, 7:26 am

jake napisał(a):

> Not speaking Polish and just looking at the first page:
>
> You claim WAI-AAA conformance -- but you shouldn't.


Why? I was test by:
http://webxact.watchfire.com/

and was passed.

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Pozdrawiam, Cezar.
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Neal

2004-09-28, 7:26 am

On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 20:30:33 +0200, Cezar <cezaryk@imail.net.pl> wrote:

> jake napisaƂ(a):
>
>
> Why? I was test by:
> http://webxact.watchfire.com/
>
> and was passed.


Accessibility cannot be adequately checked by machine. It must be done by
a human to really work.

Jake cited 4.2 -
http://www.w3.org/TR/WAI-WEBCONTENT...ech-expand-abbr

4.2 Specify the expansion of each abbreviation or acronym in a document
where it first occurs. [Priority 3]
For example, in HTML, use the "title" attribute of the ABBR and ACRONYM
elements. Providing the expansion in the main body of the document also
helps document usability.

See also http://www.w3.org/TR/WAI-WEBCONTENT...ech-expand-abbr

Ben Measures

2004-09-28, 7:26 am

Cezar wrote:
> jake napisaƂ(a):
>
>
> Why? I was test by:
> http://webxact.watchfire.com/
>
> and was passed.


Automatic tests are notoriously poor at judging a webpage's
accessibility. To do so needs human understanding of the content.

Much better to use the official checklist as a guideline:
http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10/full-checklist.html

Hth,
--
Ben M.
jake

2004-09-28, 7:26 am

In message <cj9lvt$f8v$1@nemesis.news.tpi.pl>, Cezar
<cezaryk@imail.net.pl> writes
>jake napisa0 [snip]


>
>This mean:
>"You have javascript switch off. Some funcionality of web page may be
>restrict."
>

That's OK, so long as the functionality is provided another way that
doesn't rely on JS (that's a WAI-A requirement).

regards.


--
Jake
Cezar

2004-09-28, 12:21 pm

Neal napisaƂ(a):

> Accessibility cannot be adequately checked by machine. It must be done
> by a human to really work.


Oh well. Then I have to check some code.

> Jake cited 4.2 -
> http://www.w3.org/TR/WAI-WEBCONTENT...ech-expand-abbr
>
> 4.2 Specify the expansion of each abbreviation or acronym in a document
> where it first occurs. [Priority 3]
> For example, in HTML, use the "title" attribute of the ABBR and ACRONYM
> elements. Providing the expansion in the main body of the document also


I know that and I was used abbr and acronym with "title" attribute.

> helps document usability.


I will correct what I have to. ;-)

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Regards, Cezar.
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jake

2004-09-28, 7:21 pm

In message <cjbvd7$oio$2@atlantis.news.tpi.pl>, Cezar
<cezaryk@imail.net.pl> writes
>Neal napisa0 >
>
>Oh well. Then I have to check some code.
>
>
>I know that and I was used abbr and acronym with "title" attribute.
>
>
>I will correct what I have to. ;-)
>

There are two kinds of <abbr> changes to be made:

(1) Insert the definitions for abbreviations that currently are not
marked up e.g. FAQ, PDF, Kb, html, etc.

(2) Change those that are currently incorrectly marked up
e.g. You have:
<abbr title="Valid CSS 2.0!">CSS</abbr>

which should be:
<abbr title="Cascading Style Sheets">CSS</abbr>

Unfortunately, MSIE doesn't do anything with <abbr>, but you can use CSS
to provide the expected functionality i.e. a tool tip message explaining
the abbreviation. Ask if you need to know how.

regards.

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Jake
Cezar

2004-09-29, 12:41 pm

jake napisaƂ(a):

> There are two kinds of <abbr> changes to be made:
>
> (1) Insert the definitions for abbreviations that currently are not
> marked up e.g. FAQ, PDF, Kb, html, etc.
>
> (2) Change those that are currently incorrectly marked up
> e.g. You have:
> <abbr title="Valid CSS 2.0!">CSS</abbr>
>
> which should be:
> <abbr title="Cascading Style Sheets">CSS</abbr>
>
> Unfortunately, MSIE doesn't do anything with <abbr>, but you can use CSS
> to provide the expected functionality i.e. a tool tip message explaining
> the abbreviation. Ask if you need to know how.


Thanks for advice. I was correct ma footer. Now I have to change some
other code. And ... if I'll be have any problem then I'll ask You. Thanks.

Making WAI in web pages are very welcome. Hard work, but satisfacted.

P.S. Sorry for my not perfect english. Still learning ;-) I hope You
understand it.

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Regards, Cezar.
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