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| Edwin van der Vaart 2004-08-15, 7:16 am |
| Martijn wrote:
> Hello Everybody,
G'day.
> First of I want to say that I don't normally post to newsgroups so I've
> I'm doing anything wrong please say so.
> Second I'm Dutch so don't mind the English :) (I'm hoping the spell
> checker works)
I'm also a Dutchman. The spell checker does work ;-)
> I was wondering I've somebody could check my site at
> http://www.test.xw3b.nl. It's my first whiteout tables for layout.
> Any/all comments would be appreciated
When I'm viewing your page with Firefox with a window of 800x600 px, I
miss the subjects "Kleur vast menu" and "Klear los menu".
Other than that, the page and lay-out looks good.
Keep up the good work.
--
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| Martijn 2004-08-15, 7:16 am |
| Edwin van der Vaart wrote:
> Martijn wrote:
>
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>
> G'day.
>
>
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> I'm also a Dutchman. The spell checker does work ;-)
Good to know :)
>
>
>
> When I'm viewing your page with Firefox with a window of 800x600 px, I
> miss the subjects "Kleur vast menu" and "Klear los menu".
>
> Other than that, the page and lay-out looks good.
> Keep up the good work.
Yeah I know the menu is to big for 800X600. I'm thinking about losing
the "Favoriete Links" part and sowing it somewhere else in the site.
Bit strange writing in English when I know you're Dutch :D
Bedankt voor de reactie trouwens, zou ik bijna vergeten.
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| Edwin van der Vaart 2004-08-15, 7:16 am |
| Martijn wrote:
>
> Bit strange writing in English when I know you're Dutch :D
Well, there are some South Africans too in this NG, they know a little
Dutch.
> Bedankt voor de reactie trouwens, zou ik bijna vergeten.
Graag gedaan.
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| Edwin van der Vaart 2004-08-15, 7:16 am |
| mike wrote:
> Hello,
> Just to let you know your spell checker does not work. The sentenced where
> you mention,"I was wondering I've somebody could check my site at
> http://www.test.xw3b.nl it should be if instead of I've.
You mean a grammar checker instead of a spell checker :o)
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http://www.evandervaart.nl/ Under construction
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| Hello,
It could be both.
"Edwin van der Vaart" <picayunish2000@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:EByTc.5597$vH5.5141@amstwist00...
> mike wrote:
>
where[color=darkred]
>
> You mean a grammar checker instead of a spell checker :o)
> --
> Edwin van der Vaart
> http://www.semi-conductor.nl/ Links to Semiconductors sites
> http://www.evandervaart.nl/ Under construction
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| In message <cfm89b$udv$1@testnews1.home.nl>, Martijn
<webmaster@NO_SPAMxw3b.nl> writes
>Hello Everybody,
>
>First of I want to say that I don't normally post to newsgroups so I've
>I'm doing anything wrong please say so.
>Second I'm Dutch so don't mind the English :) (I'm hoping the spell
>checker works)
>
>I was wondering I've somebody could check my site at
>http://www.test.xw3b.nl. It's my first whiteout tables for layout.
>Any/all comments would be appreciated
>
>Martijn
Just looking at the first page:
(1) looks good: text can be re-sized, fluid layout.
(2) You need to do some more work on headings (<h1>,<h2>,<h3> etc.). You
have a lot of headings that are styled as such, but are not marked up in
the HTML.
e.g 'Contact', 'Support' in the LHS column, 'website vernieuwd' in the
main content.
I'd suggest that you check that each of the styled headers is marked up
accordingly.
(3) You need a link at the start of the page to let the user *listening*
to your site bypass the contents of the repetitive left column and go
straight to the main content (an 'invisible' link if you wish).
(3) Nice to see you marking up the abbreviations (CSS, HTML, PHP)... but
you missed URL.
But shouldn't these really be '<abbr>' rather than 'acronym'? [sits back
and waits for the thread to digress on the subject ;-) ]
regards.
--
Jake
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| Martijn 2004-08-15, 7:16 am |
| jake wrote:
> In message <cfm89b$udv$1@testnews1.home.nl>, Martijn
> <webmaster@NO_SPAMxw3b.nl> writes
>
>
>
> Just looking at the first page:
>
>
> (1) looks good: text can be re-sized, fluid layout.
>
Always good to hear
> (2) You need to do some more work on headings (<h1>,<h2>,<h3> etc.). You
> have a lot of headings that are styled as such, but are not marked up in
> the HTML.
> e.g 'Contact', 'Support' in the LHS column, 'website vernieuwd' in the
> main content.
> I'd suggest that you check that each of the styled headers is marked up
> accordingly.
Hmm don't know if I understand this but i have made some changes to the
menu so if you could check if this is what you mean?
>
> (3) You need a link at the start of the page to let the user *listening*
> to your site bypass the contents of the repetitive left column and go
> straight to the main content (an 'invisible' link if you wish).
>
ok this I don't understand. what would be the syntax of such a link?
<a href="index.php#content" title"Straight to the content"></a> above
the menu and a <a name=#content></a> on the content page?
> (3) Nice to see you marking up the abbreviations (CSS, HTML, PHP)... but
> you missed URL.
>
Found it.
> But shouldn't these really be '<abbr>' rather than 'acronym'?
You're right. Changed it.
> [sits back
> and waits for the thread to digress on the subject ;-) ]
>
> regards.
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| Toby Inkster 2004-08-15, 7:16 am |
| Martijn wrote:
> jake wrote:
>
>
> You're right. Changed it.
Note though that although <abbr> is "better" than <acronym>, it's not
supported in Internet Explorer:
http://tobyinkster.co.uk/web-howto#abbr
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| Toby Inkster 2004-08-15, 12:17 pm |
| Martijn wrote:
> Ok I've used the JavaScript fix, but I was in the understanding that
> <abbr> and <acronym> where used for screen readers so [...] it
> doesn't matter if IE supports it or not.
Ah, but many (please use the correct technical term, which is...) "talky
browsy thingies" use IE as the underlying base and then just read out
whatever IE shows on screen.
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| In message <pan.2004.08.15.10.00.21.661861@tobyinkster.co.uk>, Toby
Inkster <usenet200408@tobyinkster.co.uk> writes
>Martijn wrote:
>
>Note though that although <abbr> is "better" than <acronym>, it's not
>supported in Internet Explorer:
>http://tobyinkster.co.uk/web-howto#abbr
>
Still, it's a simple-enough task to set up your CSS so that <abbr> and
<acronym> get the same treatment regardless of tag choice and browser --
although there's a little extra work in the mark-up.
regards.
--
Jake
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| In message <cfnehs$mtv$1@testnews1.home.nl>, Martijn
<webmaster@NO_SPAMxw3b.nl> writes
>Toby Inkster wrote:
>
>Ok I've used the JavaScript fix, but I was in the understanding that
><abbr> and <acronym> where used for screen readers so that they
>wouldn't hear the word "HTML" cause that would sound, well, strange
>and wouldn't make any sense and that screen readers read the code so it
>doesn't matter if IE supports it or not.
>Is that a misunderstanding on my part?
>
>Does anybody know a good (free/trial) screen reader that I could use to
>check the usability of my site?
>
http://www.test.xw3b.nl
Only some (and then, only the latest revisions) Assistive Technology
(AT) user-agents (screen-reader, talking browser, etc.) makes much use
of <abbr> or <acronym> and where they do, the use seems to vary quite a
bit[1].
Many AT UAs will simply take a guess and either pronounce it as a word
(and sometimes gets it wrong) or will spell it out letter-by-letter.
Most UAs, though, do include a dictionary facility so that the user can
tell it what to do.
----------------------------------------------------------
I was going to suggest you get hold of the 30-day free trial version of
IBM's Home Page Reader ... but I've just checked and it doesn't support
Dutch :-(
regards
[1] There's an interesting article on the subject at:
http://www.nils.org.au/ais/web/reso...short_forms.htm
--
Jake
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| Toby Inkster 2004-08-15, 12:17 pm |
| jake wrote:
> Still, it's a simple-enough task to set up your CSS so that <abbr> and
> <acronym> get the same treatment regardless of tag choice and browser --
> although there's a little extra work in the mark-up.
Nah-uh. Try this in IE <URL:http://examples.tobyinkster.co.uk/test-abbr>:
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
<title><abbr> test for MSIE</title>
<style type="text/css">
abbr,acronym {
font-weight: bold;
font-size: 150%;
color: red;
background: yellow;
}
</style>
<div>
<abbr>abbr</abbr>
<acronym>acronym</acronym>
</div>
Guess what it does?
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| In message <cfnbgo$778$1@testnews1.home.nl>, Martijn
<webmaster@NO_SPAMxw3b.nl> writes
[snip]
>
>Hmm don't know if I understand this but i have made some changes to the
>menu so if you could check if this is what you mean?
Yes, that's it.
Could still use a couple of headings in the Nieuws section, though.
>
>
>ok this I don't understand. what would be the syntax of such a link?
><a href="index.php#content" title"Straight to the content"></a> above
>the menu and a <a name=#content></a> on the content page?
>
Yes, that kind of thing.
<a href="#content" title="Straight to the content">Skip to Main
Content</a>
at the start of the items to be skipped.
And something like:
<p id="content"><a name="content"></a> .............. </p>
or
<h2 id="content"><a name="content"></a> ............ </h2>
where the main content starts.
If you want to make the link invisible to graphical browsers, but be
heard by screen-readers, et al. add this to your CSS:
..hideit {
position : absolute;
left : 0px;
top : -500px;
width : 1px;
height : 1px;
overflow : hidden;
}
and mark up the link as:
<a class="hideit" href="#content" title="Straight to the content">Skip
to Main Content</a>
(Note: However, people with a disability that precludes them from using
a mouse say that they prefer to have the link *visible* for their use.)
regards.
--
Jake
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| Martijn 2004-08-15, 12:17 pm |
| jake wrote:
> In message <cfnbgo$778$1@testnews1.home.nl>, Martijn
> <webmaster@NO_SPAMxw3b.nl> writes
> [snip]
>
>
>
> Yes, that's it.
>
> Could still use a couple of headings in the Nieuws section, though.
>
> Yes, that kind of thing.
>
> <a href="#content" title="Straight to the content">Skip to Main Content</a>
>
> at the start of the items to be skipped.
>
> And something like:
> <p id="content"><a name="content"></a> .............. </p>
> or
> <h2 id="content"><a name="content"></a> ............ </h2>
>
> where the main content starts.
>
> If you want to make the link invisible to graphical browsers, but be
> heard by screen-readers, et al. add this to your CSS:
>
> .hideit {
> position : absolute;
> left : 0px;
> top : -500px;
> width : 1px;
> height : 1px;
> overflow : hidden;
> }
>
> and mark up the link as:
> <a class="hideit" href="#content" title="Straight to the content">Skip
> to Main Content</a>
>
> (Note: However, people with a disability that precludes them from using
> a mouse say that they prefer to have the link *visible* for their use.)
>
>
>
> regards.
Ok so I did this , I downloaded IBM Homepage Reader to see how it works
and it seems to work but..
In my menu I got some accesskeys, to show to people which key they
should use I underlined them like
<a href="link.php" accesskey="h"><u>H</u>ome</a>
it looks fine but the screen reader reads it as "H" "ome" so thats no
good. Is there a way with CSS to underline only the first letter of a
word without placing that letter between tags?
About the <abbr> or <acronym>:
the IBM reader does not care if its <abbr> or <acronym> it just
disregards them completely :(
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| On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 18:08:16 +0100, jake <jake@gododdin.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <pan.2004.08.15.12.31.48.494265@tobyinkster.co.uk>, Toby
> Inkster <usenet200408@tobyinkster.co.uk> writes
>
> Displays 'abbr' and 'acronym' ?
> 'abbr' in the users' default text form?
> 'acronym' as 150% red text on a yellow background?
Exactly! So logically, if she weighs the same than a duck, she's made of
wood. And therefore, IE will not recognize a damn thing you do to the
<abbr> element because as far as it's concerned, it's NOT an element.
abbr will not take styles in IE. What markup do you propose which will
enable abbr and acronym to get the same treatment regardless of tag choice
and browser?
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| In message <cfnq9o$m1a$1@testnews1.home.nl>, Martijn
<webmaster@NO_SPAMxw3b.nl> writes
[snip]
>
>In my menu I got some accesskeys, to show to people which key they
>should use I underlined them like
>
><a href="link.php" accesskey="h"><u>H</u>ome</a>
>
>it looks fine but the screen reader reads it as "H" "ome" so thats no
>good. Is there a way with CSS to underline only the first letter of a
>word without placing that letter between tags?
Try 'First-letter'. (Works in IE and Opera, but not in Netscape or
Mozilla.)
>
>About the <abbr> or <acronym>:
>the IBM reader does not care if its <abbr> or <acronym> it just
>disregards them completely :(
>
Yes. As I said, most AT UAs don't use them, and those that do use them
in a variety of ways.
HPR simply ignores accesskey settings completely.
PS. You'll find that access keys won't work with most AT UAs because
most of them use some of the key-combinations for their own short-cuts
to cater for people with disabilities that preclude them from using a
mouse.
>
>
regards.
--
Jake
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| In message <pan.2004.08.15.21.33.40.925418@tobyinkster.co.uk>, Toby
Inkster <usenet200408@tobyinkster.co.uk> writes
>jake wrote:
>
>I would hardly describe changes to the markup of potentially hundreds of
>pages (perhaps too complicated for a simple regexp to do it all?) as "a
>simple-enough task to set up your CSS".
>
Well, if you code it this way when you code your page, then there's no
'change' required at all, is there?
If you really have 'hundreds' of pages that need changing then I find it
hard to believe that a simple awk script couldn't make the vast majority
of the changes *automatically*.
Still, if you know a better way to provide the functionality .........
;-)
regards
--
Jake
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| In message <pan.2004.08.15.12.31.48.494265@tobyinkster.co.uk>, Toby
Inkster <usenet200408@tobyinkster.co.uk> writes
>jake wrote:
>
>
>Nah-uh. Try this in IE <URL:http://examples.tobyinkster.co.uk/test-abbr>:
>
><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
>"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
><title><abbr> test for MSIE</title>
><style type="text/css">
> abbr,acronym {
> font-weight: bold;
> font-size: 150%;
> color: red;
> background: yellow;
> }
></style>
><div>
><abbr>abbr</abbr>
><acronym>acronym</acronym>
></div>
>
>Guess what it does?
>
Displays 'abbr' and 'acronym' ?
'abbr' in the users' default text form?
'acronym' as 150% red text on a yellow background?
regards.
--
Jake
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| Edwin van der Vaart 2004-08-16, 7:17 pm |
| mike wrote:
> Hello,
> Just to let you know your spell checker does not work. The sentenced where
> you mention,"I was wondering I've somebody could check my site at
> http://www.test.xw3b.nl it should be if instead of I've.
You mean a grammar checker instead of a spell checker :o)
--
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http://www.semi-conductor.nl/ Links to Semiconductors sites
http://www.evandervaart.nl/ Under construction
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| mike schreef:
[color=darkred]
> Hello,
> Just to let you know your spell checker does not work. In your sentence
> where you said, "I was wondering I've somebody could check my site at
> http://www.test.xw3b.nl it should be if not I've
>
> "Martijn" <webmaster@NO_SPAMxw3b.nl> wrote in message
> news:cfm89b$udv$1@testnews1.home.nl...
>
snip
Your Dutch can be improved as well.
Probably things a spell checker misses. But as I understand
young people like yourself are forgetting how to write Dutch
Peter
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| Edwin van der Vaart 2004-08-16, 7:17 pm |
| Edwin van der Vaart wrote:
> Martijn wrote:
>
>
>
> G'day.
>
>
>
> I'm also a Dutchman. The spell checker does work ;-)
>
>
>
> When I'm viewing your page with Firefox with a window of 800x600 px, I
> miss the subjects "Kleur vast menu" and "Klear los menu".
>
> Other than that, the page and lay-out looks good.
> Keep up the good work.
I forgot to mention. When I view the site with Firefox on Linux/Mandrake
10.0 the font size is rather small, for my taste. If have set a font
size of 12 px.
On http://www.xw3b.nl/voorbeelden/versie/1/ try to use the hover for the
menu image instead of the js hover script.
On http://www.xw3b.nl/voorbeelden/versie/2/ increase the font size to
e.g. 90 or 95%.
Please remove the intro/splash page on
http://www.xw3b.nl/voorbeelden/versie/3/ and go straight to the
index.php page.
Use style sheet of the table pages at
http://www.xw3b.nl/voorbeelden/voorb1.htm and
http://www.xw3b.nl/voorbeelden/voorb2.htm
The same goes for the frame pages at
http://www.xw3b.nl/voorbeelden/voorb3.htm and
http://www.xw3b.nl/voorbeelden/voorb4.htm
The pop-up page doesn't work when js is disabled.
Try to use this:
<a href="main.php" onClick="NieuwVenster();return false">
When js is enabled there will be a pop-up to the main.php, when js is
disabled main.php the visitor can enter the page.
http://www.test.xw3b.nl/help.php
[qoute]
In het nieuws staat dat het menu blijft staan tijdens het scrollen, dit
gebeurt bij mij niet. Hoe kan dit?
U gebruikt waarschijnlijk Microsoft Internet Explorer(IE). IE
ondersteund deze functie helaas niet. Wilt u hier toch gebruik van maken
(en van een stabielere en veiliger browser) kunt u, naar mijn menig, het
beste Mozila Firefox downloaden en gebruiken.
[/qoute]
Add Opera with Java Consol as a stable and saver browser too.
Perhaps add a new question to the help/FAQ:
"Hoe kan ik de tekst vergroten of verkleinen?"
--
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| Toby Inkster 2004-08-16, 7:17 pm |
| jake wrote:
> Still, if you know a better way to provide the functionality .........
Yes, I find this does the trick: <input type crash>
Then everyone who views the page will have correctly-behaving <abbr>
elements.
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| Martijn 2004-08-18, 7:15 am |
| jake wrote:
> In message <cfnq9o$m1a$1@testnews1.home.nl>, Martijn
> <webmaster@NO_SPAMxw3b.nl> writes
> [snip]
>
>
>
> Try 'First-letter'. (Works in IE and Opera, but not in Netscape or
> Mozilla.)
>
> Yes. As I said, most AT UAs don't use them, and those that do use them
> in a variety of ways.
>
> HPR simply ignores accesskey settings completely.
>
> PS. You'll find that access keys won't work with most AT UAs because
> most of them use some of the key-combinations for their own short-cuts
> to cater for people with disabilities that preclude them from using a
> mouse.
>
> regards.
Hmm well I'll lose the <u></u> around the first letter and make a note
of it in the Help/FAQ page so people who can't use the mouse can still
use them.
And I'll do all those things after re-installing all my developer tools.
just reinstalled my OS, after installing Window-Eyes screen reader demo
everything went wrong :( just kept rebooting even in safe mode.
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| In message <pan.2004.08.15.10.00.21.661861@tobyinkster.co.uk>, Toby
Inkster <usenet200408@tobyinkster.co.uk> writes
>Martijn wrote:
>
>Note though that although <abbr> is "better" than <acronym>, it's not
>supported in Internet Explorer:
>http://tobyinkster.co.uk/web-howto#abbr
>
Still, it's a simple-enough task to set up your CSS so that <abbr> and
<acronym> get the same treatment regardless of tag choice and browser --
although there's a little extra work in the mark-up.
regards.
--
Jake
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| Martijn 2004-08-18, 11:15 pm |
| Edwin van der Vaart wrote:
> Edwin van der Vaart wrote:
>
>
>
> I forgot to mention. When I view the site with Firefox on Linux/Mandrake
> 10.0 the font size is rather small, for my taste. If have set a font
> size of 12 px.
>
> On http://www.xw3b.nl/voorbeelden/versie/1/ try to use the hover for the
> menu image instead of the js hover script.
>
> On http://www.xw3b.nl/voorbeelden/versie/2/ increase the font size to
> e.g. 90 or 95%.
>
> Please remove the intro/splash page on
> http://www.xw3b.nl/voorbeelden/versie/3/ and go straight to the
> index.php page.
>
> Use style sheet of the table pages at
> http://www.xw3b.nl/voorbeelden/voorb1.htm and
> http://www.xw3b.nl/voorbeelden/voorb2.htm
>
> The same goes for the frame pages at
> http://www.xw3b.nl/voorbeelden/voorb3.htm and
> http://www.xw3b.nl/voorbeelden/voorb4.htm
>
> The pop-up page doesn't work when js is disabled.
> Try to use this:
> <a href="main.php" onClick="NieuwVenster();return false">
> When js is enabled there will be a pop-up to the main.php, when js is
> disabled main.php the visitor can enter the page.
>
Ok... Thank you very much for digging so deep into the site ( echt heel
erg bedankt) but all those pages are old versions of the same site. They
are just there so people can still see them and the difference in coding
they will soon be stript of all functions like forum and guestbook and
stuff so they are only there as an example and I'm not planning on
updating them anymore but if I ever feel like it I will certainly take
these tips into consideration
I *will* change and use the
<a href="main.php" onClick="NieuwVenster();return false">.
> http://www.test.xw3b.nl/help.php
> [qoute]
> In het nieuws staat dat het menu blijft staan tijdens het scrollen, dit
> gebeurt bij mij niet. Hoe kan dit?
>
> U gebruikt waarschijnlijk Microsoft Internet Explorer(IE). IE
> ondersteund deze functie helaas niet. Wilt u hier toch gebruik van maken
> (en van een stabielere en veiliger browser) kunt u, naar mijn menig, het
> beste Mozila Firefox downloaden en gebruiken.
> [/qoute]
>
> Add Opera with Java Consol as a stable and saver browser too.
>
I will do that, thanks.
> Perhaps add a new question to the help/FAQ:
> "Hoe kan ik de tekst vergroten of verkleinen?"
Oh the Help/FAQ isn't done by a long shot. Nor is the rest of the site.
I'm now working on a PHP script to make the maintenance of the FAQ page
easier.
But again thank you very much for you're input and time.
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| Toby Inkster 2004-08-18, 11:15 pm |
| jake wrote:
> This is an <acronym title="acronym">AC</acronym> and this is an <abbr
> title="abbreviation"><span class="abbr" title="abbreviation">AB</span></abbr>
I would hardly describe changes to the markup of potentially hundreds of
pages (perhaps too complicated for a simple regexp to do it all?) as "a
simple-enough task to set up your CSS".
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| In message <cfm89b$udv$1@testnews1.home.nl>, Martijn
<webmaster@NO_SPAMxw3b.nl> writes
>Hello Everybody,
>
>First of I want to say that I don't normally post to newsgroups so I've
>I'm doing anything wrong please say so.
>Second I'm Dutch so don't mind the English :) (I'm hoping the spell
>checker works)
>
>I was wondering I've somebody could check my site at
>http://www.test.xw3b.nl. It's my first whiteout tables for layout.
>Any/all comments would be appreciated
>
>Martijn
Just looking at the first page:
(1) looks good: text can be re-sized, fluid layout.
(2) You need to do some more work on headings (<h1>,<h2>,<h3> etc.). You
have a lot of headings that are styled as such, but are not marked up in
the HTML.
e.g 'Contact', 'Support' in the LHS column, 'website vernieuwd' in the
main content.
I'd suggest that you check that each of the styled headers is marked up
accordingly.
(3) You need a link at the start of the page to let the user *listening*
to your site bypass the contents of the repetitive left column and go
straight to the main content (an 'invisible' link if you wish).
(3) Nice to see you marking up the abbreviations (CSS, HTML, PHP)... but
you missed URL.
But shouldn't these really be '<abbr>' rather than 'acronym'? [sits back
and waits for the thread to digress on the subject ;-) ]
regards.
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| Martijn 2004-08-18, 11:15 pm |
| jake wrote:
> In message <cfm89b$udv$1@testnews1.home.nl>, Martijn
> <webmaster@NO_SPAMxw3b.nl> writes
>
>
>
> Just looking at the first page:
>
>
> (1) looks good: text can be re-sized, fluid layout.
>
Always good to hear
> (2) You need to do some more work on headings (<h1>,<h2>,<h3> etc.). You
> have a lot of headings that are styled as such, but are not marked up in
> the HTML.
> e.g 'Contact', 'Support' in the LHS column, 'website vernieuwd' in the
> main content.
> I'd suggest that you check that each of the styled headers is marked up
> accordingly.
Hmm don't know if I understand this but i have made some changes to the
menu so if you could check if this is what you mean?
>
> (3) You need a link at the start of the page to let the user *listening*
> to your site bypass the contents of the repetitive left column and go
> straight to the main content (an 'invisible' link if you wish).
>
ok this I don't understand. what would be the syntax of such a link?
<a href="index.php#content" title"Straight to the content"></a> above
the menu and a <a name=#content></a> on the content page?
> (3) Nice to see you marking up the abbreviations (CSS, HTML, PHP)... but
> you missed URL.
>
Found it.
> But shouldn't these really be '<abbr>' rather than 'acronym'?
You're right. Changed it.
> [sits back
> and waits for the thread to digress on the subject ;-) ]
>
> regards.
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| On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 18:08:16 +0100, jake <jake@gododdin.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <pan.2004.08.15.12.31.48.494265@tobyinkster.co.uk>, Toby
> Inkster <usenet200408@tobyinkster.co.uk> writes
>
> Displays 'abbr' and 'acronym' ?
> 'abbr' in the users' default text form?
> 'acronym' as 150% red text on a yellow background?
Exactly! So logically, if she weighs the same than a duck, she's made of
wood. And therefore, IE will not recognize a damn thing you do to the
<abbr> element because as far as it's concerned, it's NOT an element.
abbr will not take styles in IE. What markup do you propose which will
enable abbr and acronym to get the same treatment regardless of tag choice
and browser?
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