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website crituque please

cruiserweight

2004-07-25, 4:15 am

this small site is currently on a dev server, but will soon move to a
proper home. the design is from a "pure" designer (never ever done web
stuff). this is my nearly-identical-to-the-original adaptation. and
and all thoughts are appreciated. cheers.

http://www.k4media.com/rubies/

Arash Dejkam

2004-07-25, 4:15 am

Toby Inkster

2004-07-25, 12:15 pm

cruiserweight wrote:

> http://www.k4media.com/rubies/

I think it's really good (and it's not often that I say that!)

I do think though that this page hasn't had quite as much effort put into
it: http://www.k4media.com/rubies/lounge.html -- it looks scattered and
haphazard and it lets the rest of the site down.

Other minor niggles:

1. The square orange bullet points are inserted via <img> elements. It
would be better to use the CSS list-style-image property.

2. On the pages other than the home page, you link like this back to the
home page: <a href="index.html">. It would be better to use <a href="./">.
Should help with caching and also with vlinks.

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2004-07-25, 12:15 pm

"cruiserweight" <bayon86@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:18bdba0a.0407241858.3e864a83@posting.google.com...
> this small site is currently on a dev server, but will soon move to a
> proper home. the design is from a "pure" designer (never ever done web
> stuff). this is my nearly-identical-to-the-original adaptation. and
> and all thoughts are appreciated. cheers.
>
> http://www.k4media.com/rubies/

Your design is quite excellent. Oddly enough (and this is rare) the HTML is
also quite good. The CSS is ok enough, a bit verbose but much better than
most I see in here.

Are you sure you didn't farm the coding out to a developer? :-)

Couple of issues:

The images on the front page. You have sort of mirrored them. I get the
feeling that it is a background that is repeating in the x direction.

Also on the front page, the most important bit of information on that page
is your location. It is dark grey on black. I had to highlight it to be able
to read it. It should be bright white, like the menu items. Maybe even
brighter.

Lounge room: orange on red is almost impossible to read as well.

I assume you aren't concerned with search engine placement :-)

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Cheers
Richard.

Els

2004-07-25, 12:15 pm

cruiserweight wrote:

> this small site is currently on a dev server, but will soon
> move to a proper home. the design is from a "pure" designer
> (never ever done web stuff). this is my
> nearly-identical-to-the-original adaptation. and and all
> thoughts are appreciated. cheers.
>
> http://www.k4media.com/rubies/

I like the design, fluid, and whatever width the browser window
is, it still looks good.
Only one thing 'wrong': in IE 6.0, on the photos page, the word
PHOTOS (sideways on the right) is missing.

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- Renato Russo -

2004-07-25, 12:15 pm

Els wrote

> Only one thing 'wrong': in IE 6.0, on the photos page, the word
> PHOTOS (sideways on the right) is missing.

Have a look down here

|
|
V

See the scroll bar?

But yes, it shouldn't happen :-)

--
Cheers
Richard.

Els

2004-07-25, 12:15 pm

rf wrote:

> Els wrote
>
>
> Have a look down here
>
> |
> |
> V
>
> See the scroll bar?

Right! It was so fluid that I automatically ignored the
horizontal scrollbar :-)

> But yes, it shouldn't happen :-)

Looks like a "margin-problem" I think...

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Els
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Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito.
- Renato Russo -

2004-07-25, 12:15 pm

Els wrote
> rf wrote:

> Right! It was so fluid that I automatically ignored the
> horizontal scrollbar :-)
>
>
> Looks like a "margin-problem" I think...

You mean the IE margin bug?

Hmmm. Don't think so. The OP appears to be running the browser in standards
mode.

But, there is something in there that is forcing the body element AFAICT out
to almost exactly 150px wider than the canvas.

Suspect those width and height things in the CSS, which are not really
uniformly supported anyway.

Maybe it *is* the margin bug.

Leave it as an exercise for the student at this stage, eh Els? Give said OP
something to work on, can't give ALL our secrets away at once :-)

--
Cheers
Richard.

Els

2004-07-25, 12:15 pm

rf wrote:

> Els wrote
>
>
> You mean the IE margin bug?

Wasn't thinking bug, actually, just problem :-)

> Hmmm. Don't think so. The OP appears to be running the
> browser in standards mode.
>
> But, there is something in there that is forcing the body
> element AFAICT out to almost exactly 150px wider than the
> canvas.
>
> Suspect those width and height things in the CSS, which are
> not really uniformly supported anyway.
>
> Maybe it *is* the margin bug.

Don't know actually, haven't memorized all of the bugs yet.
(and before anyone asks, I wasn't planning on going to either)

> Leave it as an exercise for the student at this stage, eh
> Els? Give said OP something to work on, can't give ALL our
> secrets away at once :-)

True :-D

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Els
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Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito.
- Renato Russo -

Spartanicus

2004-07-25, 12:15 pm

"rf" <rf@.invalid> wrote:

>
>Your design is quite excellent. Oddly enough (and this is rare) the HTML is
>also quite good. The CSS is ok enough, a bit verbose but much better than
>most I see in here.
>
>Are you sure you didn't farm the coding out to a developer? :-)

The way I read it he's the coder, and the design is someone else's.

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Spartanicus

2004-07-25, 12:15 pm

Spartanicus wrote...
> "rf" <rf@.invalid> wrote:
>
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>
> The way I read it he's the coder, and the design is someone else's.

Ah, yes. Takes a couple of reads of the OP but you are quite correct. I
mentally inserted an "I've" after the first (.

<grin>
BTW thanks for pointing out the errors I make here. It keeps me on my toes
(as if I ever want to be on my toes in the first place).
</grin>

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Cheers
Richard.

cruiserweight

2004-07-26, 4:15 am

"rf" <rf@.invalid> wrote in message news:<_XMMc.15869$K53.11517@news-server.bigpond.net.au>...
> "cruiserweight" <bayon86@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:18bdba0a.0407241858.3e864a83@posting.google.com...
>
> Your design is quite excellent. Oddly enough (and this is rare) the HTML is
> also quite good. The CSS is ok enough, a bit verbose but much better than
> most I see in here.
>
> Are you sure you didn't farm the coding out to a developer? :-)

I'll take that as a compliment:) I am the "developer". The design was
done by a friend of mine who's never, ever done web stuff. As a
designer and a programmer, my designs tend to be heavily influnced by
the strengths and weaknesses of (x)html. My friend, however, harbors
no such limitations.

> Couple of issues:
>
> The images on the front page. You have sort of mirrored them. I get the
> feeling that it is a background that is repeating in the x direction.

please explain.

Stephen

2004-07-26, 7:16 pm

In news:Xns95318B7786414Els@130.133.1.4,
Els <els.aNOSPAM@tiscali.nl> expounded:
| cruiserweight wrote:
|
|| this small site is currently on a dev server, but will soon
|| move to a proper home. the design is from a "pure" designer
|| (never ever done web stuff). this is my
|| nearly-identical-to-the-original adaptation. and and all
|| thoughts are appreciated. cheers.
||
|| http://www.k4media.com/rubies/
|
| I like the design, fluid, and whatever width the browser window
| is, it still looks good.
| Only one thing 'wrong': in IE 6.0, on the photos page, the word
| PHOTOS (sideways on the right) is missing.

It looks OK on my screen with IE 6 . It is only the very bottom of the S
that is cut off and there are no scroll bars.

--

stephen

Els

2004-07-26, 7:16 pm

Stephen wrote:

> In news:Xns95318B7786414Els@130.133.1.4,
> Els <els.aNOSPAM@tiscali.nl> expounded:
>| cruiserweight wrote:
>|
>|| http://www.k4media.com/rubies/
>|
>| I like the design, fluid, and whatever width the browser
>| window is, it still looks good.
>| Only one thing 'wrong': in IE 6.0, on the photos page, the
>| word PHOTOS (sideways on the right) is missing.
>
> It looks OK on my screen with IE 6 . It is only the very
> bottom of the S that is cut off and there are no scroll
> bars.

I see. It has been changed since I wrote that :-)
It was too far to the right before.

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Els http://locusmeus.com/
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(Main)

kate.simpson

2004-07-27, 4:16 am

Hello!
Well, I really like the artsy design and layout. I'm just thinking that the
site *feels* incredibly dark...
My only suggestion is that you might consider adding a splash of white
somewhere. You could even do a literal splash-of-white!
Nice!
Ginae
http://www.ginae.us

"cruiserweight" <bayon86@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:18bdba0a.0407241858.3e864a83@posting.google.com...
> this small site is currently on a dev server, but will soon move to a
> proper home. the design is from a "pure" designer (never ever done web
> stuff). this is my nearly-identical-to-the-original adaptation. and
> and all thoughts are appreciated. cheers.
>
> http://www.k4media.com/rubies/

Brian

2004-07-28, 11:15 pm

cruiserweight wrote:

> http://www.k4media.com/rubies/

On the wines page ( http://www.k4media.com/rubies/wine.html ):

"for a copy of our wine list please contact rubies,
tahli@rubieswinebar.com"

Umm, why can't I find a copy of the wie list on this page, instead?
The visuals are nice, but content is king.

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Brian (remove ".invalid" to email me)
http://www.tsmchughs.com/

Andrew D

2004-08-14, 7:16 pm

In article <18bdba0a.0407252244.63a139cf@posting.google.com>,
bayon86@yahoo.com (cruiserweight) wrote:

> "rf" <rf@.invalid> wrote in message
news:<_XMMc.15869$K53.11517@news-server.bigpond.net.au>...
[snip]

>
> please explain.

I assume the image is a panoramic photo but where the room and bar turn
corners, they look like mirror images. Therefore I also assume (I assume a
lot) this is what rf is referring to.
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Fine art gallery - online, Western Australia
Landscapes, seascapes and still life paintings in oils.

Andrew D

2004-08-19, 10:38 pm