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I'm back for a critique... again

jamslam

2004-05-16, 4:29 am

Alright, I have been here many times looking for a critique, and each time I
have learned something new and improved myself because of it. I think I have
improved drastically, so I ask you to take a look and critique my web site:

www.webtrickscentral.com

Thank you for your time, I appreciate it!
-jamslam

MoonJihad

2004-05-16, 4:29 am

In article <10adm7m5go2qh6c@corp.supernews.com>, webmaster@webtrickscentral.com
says...
> Alright, I have been here many times looking for a critique, and each time I
> have learned something new and improved myself because of it. I think I have
> improved drastically, so I ask you to take a look and critique my web site:
>
> www.webtrickscentral.com
>
> Thank you for your time, I appreciate it!
> -jamslam

http://www.webtrickscentral.com/tut...xhtmlCss&step=4

See http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/#C_4

-MoonJihad

jamslam

2004-05-16, 4:29 am

"MoonJihad" <postmaster@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b10b40313d0531998968a@news1.on.sympatico.ca...
> In article <10adm7m5go2qh6c@corp.supernews.com>,
webmaster@webtrickscentral.com
> says...
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>
> http://www.webtrickscentral.com/tut...xhtmlCss&step=4
>
> See http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/#C_4
>
> -MoonJihad

Ah interesting, I must have missed that ;)

Also, if anyone could try loading it in FireFox... you'll notice that it
loads extremely slow, and scrolling with the mouse wheel will not work. The
nav-image rollovers also do not work in FireFox. It seems like there is
something bogging it down, and I cannot for the life of me figure it out. It
works perfectly fine in Opera, though.

Thanks again
-jamslam

Els

2004-05-16, 7:28 am

jamslam wrote:
>
> Also, if anyone could try loading it in FireFox... you'll notice that it
> loads extremely slow, and scrolling with the mouse wheel will not work. The
> nav-image rollovers also do not work in FireFox. It seems like there is
> something bogging it down, and I cannot for the life of me figure it out. It
> works perfectly fine in Opera, though.

I did load it in Firefox, but didn't find it slow at all
(but I'm on DSL). About the nav-image rollovers: I guess you
mean the bullets in the #left div?

Your code says this:
#left ul li a {
font-weight: bold;
display: block;
margin: 0;
padding: 0 0 0 20px;
background: url(images/nav_bullet.gif) 5px 50%
no-repeat;
color: #00285b;
text-decoration: underline;
}

#left ul li a:hover {
background-image: url(images/nav_bulletOVER.gif);
text-decoration: none;
}

The only possibility I can think of why it's not working in
Firefox, is that maybe you should write the style for hover
the same way as you did for a, i.e.
background: url(images/nav_bulletOVER.gif) 5px 50% no-repeat;

I don't know if it will work, but can't think of any other
reason.

As for the scrollwheel not working, that's normal Gecko
behaviour for scrolling divs. Maybe your construction
somehow lets the containerdiv scroll instead of the body?
(couldn't find such a thing in the css, but haven't examined
it completely)

--
Els
http://locusmeus.com/
Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito.
- Renato Russo -

jamslam

2004-05-18, 7:42 pm

"Els" <els.aNOSPAM@tiscali.nl> wrote in message
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> jamslam wrote:
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>
> I did load it in Firefox, but didn't find it slow at all
> (but I'm on DSL). About the nav-image rollovers: I guess you
> mean the bullets in the #left div?
>
> Your code says this:
> #left ul li a {
> font-weight: bold;
> display: block;
> margin: 0;
> padding: 0 0 0 20px;
> background: url(images/nav_bullet.gif) 5px 50%
> no-repeat;
> color: #00285b;
> text-decoration: underline;
> }
>
> #left ul li a:hover {
> background-image: url(images/nav_bulletOVER.gif);
> text-decoration: none;
> }
>
> The only possibility I can think of why it's not working in
> Firefox, is that maybe you should write the style for hover
> the same way as you did for a, i.e.
> background: url(images/nav_bulletOVER.gif) 5px 50% no-repeat;
>
> I don't know if it will work, but can't think of any other
> reason.

Yea it still doesn't work, but the "next" and "back" links in my tutorial
work.

>
> As for the scrollwheel not working, that's normal Gecko
> behaviour for scrolling divs. Maybe your construction
> somehow lets the containerdiv scroll instead of the body?
> (couldn't find such a thing in the css, but haven't examined
> it completely)

Hmmm... No, I don't believe I have a containerdiv scrolling, of course at
least not on purpose. But I don't see how I could have it accidentally.

>
> --
> Els
> http://locusmeus.com/
> Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito.
> - Renato Russo -
>

Els

2004-05-18, 7:42 pm

jamslam wrote:

> "Els" <els.aNOSPAM@tiscali.nl> wrote in message
> news:40a72a81$0$41764$5fc3050@dreader2.news.tiscali.nl...
>
>
> Hmmm... No, I don't believe I have a containerdiv scrolling, of course at
> least not on purpose. But I don't see how I could have it accidentally.

What happens if you take out the 100% height from the body?
Beware, your whole page might have a problem, cause your
container div is also 100% height, which is 100% of the
body, but I have an idea that eliminating the 100% height
from the body, might get the body to scroll.
(too lazy right now to copy your page to my pc to test it ;-) )

--
Els
http://locusmeus.com/
Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito.
- Renato Russo -

jamslam

2004-05-18, 7:42 pm

"Els" <els.aNOSPAM@tiscali.nl> wrote in message
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> jamslam wrote:
>
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>
> What happens if you take out the 100% height from the body?
> Beware, your whole page might have a problem, cause your
> container div is also 100% height, which is 100% of the
> body, but I have an idea that eliminating the 100% height
> from the body, might get the body to scroll.
> (too lazy right now to copy your page to my pc to test it ;-) )
>

If I take the 100% height out from the body, then it doesn't stretch
completely down in FireFox. Also, take a look at this:

http://www.webtrickscentral.com/stu...hreecolumn.html

My site's layout is based strongly right off of that, yet that page scrolls
perfectly fine. This problem has had be stumped for quite some time.

Thanks
-jamslam

Els

2004-05-18, 7:42 pm

jamslam wrote:

> "Els" <els.aNOSPAM@tiscali.nl> wrote in message
> news:40a79fae$0$41757$5fc3050@dreader2.news.tiscali.nl...
>
>
> If I take the 100% height out from the body, then it doesn't stretch
> completely down in FireFox. Also, take a look at this:
>
> http://www.webtrickscentral.com/stu...hreecolumn.html
>
> My site's layout is based strongly right off of that, yet that page scrolls
> perfectly fine. This problem has had be stumped for quite some time.

Well, only thing to do, would be making a copy of your css
for safe keeping, and then taking out part of the original
css file, bit by bit, everytime checking if the scrollwheel
works. Eventually it should work. That is, try without the
css first, it should scroll then, at least. If not, you have
to search within the html.

--
Els
http://locusmeus.com/
Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito.
- Renato Russo -

Toby A Inkster

2004-05-18, 7:42 pm

jamslam wrote:

> www.webtrickscentral.com

I'm impressed. You've certainly come a long way.

A few little niggles:

1. The alt text for your logo could be improved. It's currently "Home -
Header" but should probably be "WebTricksCentral".

2. In Opera 7.5 there is a tiny (2px) gap above your "Home | Community |
About | Contact" bar. It's not a big problem by any means, but if it's
possible to fix easily without effecting any other browsers, then go for
it.

3. <span class="tt"> should probably be <code>.

4. <span class="dfn"> should probably be <dfn>.

--
Toby A Inkster BSc (Hons) ARCS
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jamslam

2004-05-18, 7:42 pm

"Els" <els.aNOSPAM@tiscali.nl> wrote in message
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> jamslam wrote:
>
at[color=darkred]
scrolls[color=darkred]
>
> Well, only thing to do, would be making a copy of your css
> for safe keeping, and then taking out part of the original
> css file, bit by bit, everytime checking if the scrollwheel
> works. Eventually it should work. That is, try without the
> css first, it should scroll then, at least. If not, you have
> to search within the html.
>

I should have thought of that earlier, I do that sometimes when I get vague
XML errors in my templates. Thanks for the reminder ;)
-jamslam

jamslam

2004-05-18, 7:42 pm

"Toby A Inkster" <tobyink@goddamn.co.uk> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.05.16.20.57.34.865063@goddamn.co.uk...
> jamslam wrote:
>
>
> I'm impressed. You've certainly come a long way.
>
> A few little niggles:
>
> 1. The alt text for your logo could be improved. It's currently "Home -
> Header" but should probably be "WebTricksCentral".

Fixed.
>
> 2. In Opera 7.5 there is a tiny (2px) gap above your "Home | Community |
> About | Contact" bar. It's not a big problem by any means, but if it's
> possible to fix easily without effecting any other browsers, then go for
> it.

Try refreshing the page. I am actually using a server side fix for it
(detecting Opera).
But users have reported that it doesn't "kick in" until they refresh. It is
actually effected
in FireFox as well, except I need a magin-bottom of -8, while in the most
recent version
of Opera, I need -7. I don't understand what exactly makes that space, as
that was the only
fix I could come up with. I've tried setting margins and padding to 0, but
in Gecko based browsers
there seems to be a space up there where you saw in Opera. To me, it looks
like a bug (in the browser).
>
> 3. <span class="tt"> should probably be <code>.
>
> 4. <span class="dfn"> should probably be <dfn>.
>
Fixed and fixed. I don't know why I didn't do that before. I had to pull
some fancy
search and replace in my templates, but I got it through :-)

Thanks!
-jamslam

sarab

2004-05-26, 11:58 am

I'd put the updates blog somewhere other than on the front page.

Most forums, I find, fall into the trap of assuming that visitors know what the site's all about, what it can do for them, and why they should investigate further.

Yours is no different.

The title's okay, but it might be misleading. Make sure the page convinces me that it's not.

And I wouldn't have Google ads on that page, as that just encourages yet more click-outs.

Good luck with the enterprise. :)