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"DigitAlex" <Guest.zuwgn@mail.forum4designers.com> wrote in message
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> Sorry, here is a easier way to view and compare them, start here
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> http://www.istrasoft.net/tmp/blue.html
Ok A picture with a bunch of links to pictures.
Where it the bloody URL!
Cheers
Richard.
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| picayunish 2004-01-11, 9:28 am |
| rf wrote:
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> "DigitAlex" <Guest.zuton@mail.forum4designers.com> wrote in message
> news:Guest.zuton@mail.forum4designers.com...
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> Damn, my posts are not getting through to you...
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> STOP SENDING PICTURES OF YOUR PAGE!
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> Post the URL.
That's right.
Oh, if this is your work: http://users.skynet.be/bk232951/
Than do something about the javascript, because I can't scroll down.
Unless I disable javascript. Unfortunetly there is no menu when JS is
disabled.
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Edwin van der Vaart
http://www.semi-conductor.nl/ Links to Semiconductors sites
http://www.evandervaart.nl/ Under construction
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| DigitAlex 2004-01-11, 11:54 am |
| It looks like no one is willing to give some HELPFUL advise !
Do you ever stop complaining ? If you have downloaded that huge (250k) picture, why can't you comment it by the way ...
Yes that website is mine and thats is what will be reshaped, so I won't bother bout that scrolling, cuz it has been online for almost 2 years now without any complaints about that ...
I would really LOVE someone to post something else than "use CSS", "post that bloody URL", etc | |
| Barefoot Kid 2004-01-11, 12:29 pm |
| "rf" <making.it.up@the.time> wrote in message news:subMb.6141$Wa.654@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
| Damn, my posts are not getting through to you...
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| STOP SENDING PICTURES OF YOUR PAGE!
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| Post the URL.
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| Cheers
| Richard.
he prolly doesnt have any html pages yet, these are photoshop comps, is that so hard to
understand???
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Hung Diep
New Media Designer
www.intro-spect.co.uk
0795 6576 319
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| DigitAlex 2004-01-11, 1:24 pm |
| Geez finally someone understands how it works !
Thanx Barefo ot Kid ! | |
| picayunish 2004-01-11, 1:29 pm |
| DigitAlex wrote:quote:
> It looks like no one is willing to give some HELPFUL advise !
> Do you ever stop complaining ? If you have downloaded that huge (250k)
> picture, why can't you comment it by the way ...
Oh, we can comment.
We also can give some *helpful* advise. With a page we can give you
better advise then with a image of a page.
Because we can view the page with different browser on different OS's
and give you some advise with html or css coding.
quote:
> Yes that website is mine and thats is what will be reshaped, so I won't
> bother bout that scrolling, cuz it has been online for almost 2 years
> now without any complaints about that ...
Because they only visited with IE.
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Edwin van der Vaart
http://www.semi-conductor.nl/ Links to Semiconductors sites
http://www.evandervaart.nl/ Under construction
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| kchayka 2004-01-11, 4:29 pm |
| rf wrote:
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> "DigitAlex" <Guest.zuwgn@mail.forum4designers.com> wrote in message
> news:Guest.zuwgn@mail.forum4designers.com...
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> Ok A picture with a bunch of links to pictures.
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> Where it the bloody URL!
There is no html, at least not yet. All he has are mockups he's doing
in Photoshop or some such thing. He is under the misguided impression
that this is how one designs a web site.
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| DigitAlex 2004-01-11, 6:04 pm |
| I didn't imagine that techinque myself, I've found it online and it was very well documented explained and argumented. I never did it that way before so I just wanted to give it a try. | |
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"DigitAlex" <Guest.zvo8n@mail.forum4designers.com> wrote in message
news:Guest.zvo8n@mail.forum4designers.com...quote:
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> It looks like no one is willing to give some HELPFUL advise !
> Do you ever stop complaining ? If you have downloaded that huge (250k)
> picture, why can't you comment it by the way ...
>
> I would really LOVE someone to post something else than "use CSS",
> "post that bloody URL", etc
Look at the name of this newsgroup. It is alt.HTML.critique. If it were
alt.photshop.critique then maybe you would get some answers. Here we like to
look at the HTML and the CSS (or lack thereof).
A web page is not just an image, it is a complex object subject to HTML
errors, browser bugs, viewer preferences and other such things. It is these
latter things you will gain a critique on. I don't care what your images
look like, I want to poke font sizes and canvas size changes at a real web
page. I want to run it in several different browsers to see if it breaks in
one of them. I'll probably also run it in lynx to see how it will sound to
a blind person. I can't do that with an image of a page.
In any case I thought I did point out that your graphics are impressive.
However I still offer that wager, that it will fall apart when I change my
font size :-)
Cheers
Richard.
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| Barefoot Kid 2004-01-11, 8:30 pm |
| "DigitAlex" <Guest.zw4wo@mail.forum4designers.com> wrote in message
news:Guest.zw4wo@mail.forum4designers.com...
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| I didn't imagine that techinque myself, I've found it online and it was
| very well documented explained and argumented. I never did it that way
| before so I just wanted to give it a try.
dont listen to him, its a perfectly acceptable way of creating MOCKUPS quickly and easily allowing u
to rapidly try out different designs and colour schemes b4 building the pages in html using wotever
method u choose
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Hung Diep
New Media Designer
www.intro-spect.co.uk
0795 6576 319
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| Unregistered 2004-01-12, 9:54 am |
| Okay I got it when someone in the other thread told me I was actually posting on newsgroups !
You have to know I'm posting form a WWW forum and there isnt stated it's going to usenet. Therefore, I didn't even know it was HTML critique, or else I woudlnt have posted pix !
quote:
Originally posted by rf
"DigitAlex" <Guest.zvo8n@mail.forum4designers.com> wrote in message
news:Guest.zvo8n@mail.forum4designers.com...
Look at the name of this newsgroup. It is alt.HTML.critique. If it were
alt.photshop.critique then maybe you would get some answers. Here we like to
look at the HTML and the CSS (or lack thereof).
A web page is not just an image, it is a complex object subject to HTML
errors, browser bugs, viewer preferences and other such things. It is these
latter things you will gain a critique on. I don't care what your images
look like, I want to poke font sizes and canvas size changes at a real web
page. I want to run it in several different browsers to see if it breaks in
one of them. I'll probably also run it in lynx to see how it will sound to
a blind person. I can't do that with an image of a page.
In any case I thought I did point out that your graphics are impressive.
However I still offer that wager, that it will fall apart when I change my
font size :-)
Cheers
Richard.
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| DigitAlex 2004-01-13, 11:30 am |
| OK, finally subscribed to usenet group instead of using that thief-forum ;)
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| nirvanasource 2004-01-13, 11:30 am |
| "DigitAlex" <webdigital@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:40040604$0$1815$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be...quote:
> OK, finally subscribed to usenet group instead of using that thief-forum
;)
I like the blue one.
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| William Tasso 2004-01-13, 12:33 pm |
| DigitAlex wrote:quote:
> OK, finally subscribed to usenet group
yahay - party time ;o)
quote:
> instead of using that thief-forum ;)
can't speak for anyone else, but what they're doing wouldn't bother me at
all if they were a bit more honest.
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William Tasso - http://WilliamTasso.com
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| DigitAlex 2004-01-13, 1:31 pm |
| Okay, I followed your advise of adding more than a monochrome color
scheme to my website, here it is ...
Sorry for the file size for those on dial-up (280k)
http://www.istrasoft.net/tmp/contrast6.jpg
Thanks a lot of giving your thoughts ...
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"DigitAlex" <webdigital@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:40042bb1$0$289$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be...quote:
> Okay, I followed your advise of adding more than a monochrome color
> scheme to my website, here it is ...
>
> Sorry for the file size for those on dial-up (280k)
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> http://www.istrasoft.net/tmp/contrast6.jpg
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> Thanks a lot of giving your thoughts ...
Getting better!
Colours look kinda washed out and weak
....as if you had converted a greyscale image to 16 million, then applied
various color balance, or hsl settings??
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W
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| Toby A Inkster 2004-01-13, 3:31 pm |
| William Tasso wrote:
quote:
> can't speak for anyone else, but what they're doing wouldn't bother me at
> all if they were a bit more honest.
Ditto -- after all, it's not that different from groups.google.com in many
respects.
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Contact Me - http://www.goddamn.co.uk/tobyink/?page=132
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| DigitAlex 2004-01-13, 4:31 pm |
| No, not at all. It's my choice of colors, I just don't want to have them
all saturated at max ...
West wrote:
quote:
> "DigitAlex" <webdigital@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:40042bb1$0$289$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be...
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> Getting better!
> Colours look kinda washed out and weak
> ...as if you had converted a greyscale image to 16 million, then applied
> various color balance, or hsl settings??
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> --
> W
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| kchayka 2004-01-13, 8:30 pm |
| Toby A Inkster wrote:
quote:
> William Tasso wrote:
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> Ditto -- after all, it's not that different from groups.google.com in many
> respects.
Except at google there is no pretense of being a private forum.
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| brucie 2004-01-13, 8:31 pm |
| in post <news:bu13vg$c761l$1@ID-139074.news.uni-berlin.de>
William Tasso said:
quote:
[QUOTE][color=darkred]
> can't speak for anyone else, but what they're doing wouldn't bother me at
> all if they were a bit more honest.
what if there was advertising on the forum, your posts are being used to
generate content for the forum. don't you think you'd be entitled to
some of the advertising $$ to compensate you for generating content that
the site owner is making money out of?
--
brucie
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"DigitAlex" <webdigital@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:40042bb1$0$289$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be...quote:
> Okay, I followed your advise of adding more than a monochrome color
> scheme to my website, here it is ...
>
> Sorry for the file size for those on dial-up (280k)
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> http://www.istrasoft.net/tmp/contrast6.jpg
Much nicer.
However, that is definately going to break when you make a web page out of
it.
Cheers
Richard.
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"William Tasso" <news27@tbdata.com> wrote in message
news:bu13vg$c761l$1@ID-139074.news.uni-berlin.de...quote:
> DigitAlex wrote:
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> yahay - party time ;o)
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> can't speak for anyone else, but what they're doing wouldn't bother me at
> all if they were a bit more honest.
The operative word here is *if*. They are not honest. They are going out of
their way to hide the fact that they are only a portal into usenet.
There are many other such sites around. Most of them quite clearly state up
front what they are, a web based access (*) into usenet. These guys do not,
and by not doing so they hoodwink people like DigitAlex into believing
he/she is posting to something other than usenet.
(*) Such things are necessary. Not everybody has access to a newsreader
(libraries, internet stations at the airport). Google is read only. These
honest sites provide needed read/write access.
Cheers
Richard.
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| Mark Parnell 2004-01-13, 11:29 pm |
| On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 02:21:26 GMT, rf declared in alt.html.critique:quote:
> "William Tasso" <news27@tbdata.com> wrote in message
> news:bu13vg$c761l$1@ID-139074.news.uni-berlin.de...
I agree. If these people actually knew they were posting to Usenet, it
wouldn't be so much of an issue.
[QUOTE][color=darkred]
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> The operative word here is *if*. They are not honest. They are going out of
> their way to hide the fact that they are only a portal into usenet.
And I can't find any contact details there for the owners of the site,
so I can complain. :-(
--
Mark Parnell
http://www.clarkecomputers.com.au
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| brucie 2004-01-13, 11:29 pm |
| in post <news:e353wqy6ccjy.ht44ihzsibdv$.dlg@40tude.net>
Mark Parnell said:
quote:
>[ http://www.forum4designers.com ]
> And I can't find any contact details there for the owners of the site,
> so I can complain. :-(
i emailed abuse@savvis.net
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brucie
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| Mark Parnell 2004-01-14, 12:29 am |
| On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 13:23:00 +1000, brucie declared in
alt.html.critique:
quote:
> in post <news:e353wqy6ccjy.ht44ihzsibdv$.dlg@40tude.net>
> Mark Parnell said:
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> i emailed abuse@savvis.net
Where did you get that address from? Looking at the newsgroup headers,
abuse@giganews.com might be an option, too.
The domain is registered through GoDaddy, so maybe we could email them
as well.
--
Mark Parnell
http://www.clarkecomputers.com.au
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| brucie 2004-01-14, 12:29 am |
| in post <news:139gn0dpssgik.qfiq5vet42hr$.dlg@40tude.net>
Mark Parnell said:
quote:
[QUOTE][color=darkred]
[QUOTE][color=darkred]
> Where did you get that address from?
i made it up. doesn't it look pretty! [1]
[1] spamcop also gave that as one of the abuse addresses for the domain.
--
brucie
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| DigitAlex 2004-01-14, 12:29 am |
| I understand your concern guys but aren't this getting a bit off topic
from the review I gently requested for my ne we design :
http://www.istrasoft.net/tmp/contrast6.jpg
Thanx a lot ;)
brucie wrote:quote:
> in post <news:139gn0dpssgik.qfiq5vet42hr$.dlg@40tude.net>
> Mark Parnell said:
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> i made it up. doesn't it look pretty! [1]
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| JustAnotherGuy 2004-01-14, 1:29 am |
| rf wrote:quote:
> (*) Such things are necessary. Not everybody has access to a newsreader
> (libraries, internet stations at the airport). Google is read only. These
> honest sites provide needed read/write access.
Small point--you can post through Google groups.
quote:
> Cheers
> Richard.
>
>
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| JustAnotherGuy 2004-01-14, 1:29 am |
| DigitAlex wrote:
quote:
> I understand your concern guys but aren't this getting a bit off topic
> from the review I gently requested for my ne we design :
> http://www.istrasoft.net/tmp/contrast6.jpg
>
> Thanx a lot ;)
HTMLise it :) It doesn't look like it'll withstand the scrutiny of this
group's regs once realised/coded.
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| kchayka 2004-01-14, 1:29 am |
| DigitAlex wrote:
quote:
> I understand your concern guys but aren't this getting a bit off topic
> from the review I gently requested for my ne we design :
> http://www.istrasoft.net/tmp/contrast6.jpg
Now that you know you're posting to alt.html.critique, it's time you
paid attention to the "html" part. ;) A picture doesn't always say 1000
words, at least not around here.
quote:
> Thanx a lot ;)
You're welcome. :) And please don't top post.
<URL:http://allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post>
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| brucie 2004-01-14, 1:29 am |
| in post <news:4004c0fc$0$280$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be>
DigitAlex said:
quote:
> http://www.istrasoft.net/tmp/contrast6.jpg
sorry, i left. takes too long to download and its not possible to review
a design from a screencap. i have better ways to waste my time.
--
brucie
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| William Tasso 2004-01-14, 3:29 am |
| brucie wrote:quote:
> in post <news:bu13vg$c761l$1@ID-139074.news.uni-berlin.de>
> William Tasso said:
>
>
>
> what if there was advertising on the forum, your posts are being used
> to generate content for the forum. don't you think you'd be entitled
> to some of the advertising $$ to compensate you for generating
> content that the site owner is making money out of?
yes - but then I also think I should be paid for the bandwidth used by ads
in the first place ... and for the time used by ads on commercial tv (and
radio) stations.
I didn't see any ads on that site - but maybe it's early days.
It's a two-way street. Promoting the content of usenet via the web can be a
good thing in some circumstances - if the site needs advertising revenue to
remain stable then that's an acceptable trade-off - depending on
presentation.
--
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"brucie" <shit@bruciesusenetshit.info> wrote in message
news:bu2cm7$cv190$1@ID-117621.news.uni-berlin.de...quote:
> in post <news:e353wqy6ccjy.ht44ihzsibdv$.dlg@40tude.net>
> Mark Parnell said:
>
>
> i emailed abuse@savvis.net
I was going to email microsoft.com to enquire what they thought about the
above site misrepresenting some of microsofts newsgroups as their own
content. If Bill took an interest I'll bet we could count the individual
microseconds until the site was gone.
Then again, I couldn't find an email address that seemed reaonable to post
to, not that I tried too hard.
I find it gratifying that all of *these* posts are making it onto the
website (*). Surely somebody reads them :-)
(*) I'll bet my LOL quotient over there is going through the roof. However,
on investigating it I find that I am still a 'guest' with a "posts per day"
of 0. Bummer :-(
Cheers
Richard.
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"Mark Parnell" <webmaster@clarkecomputers.com.au> wrote in message
news:139gn0dpssgik.qfiq5vet42hr$.dlg@40tude.net...quote:
> On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 13:23:00 +1000, brucie declared in
> alt.html.critique:
>
>
> Where did you get that address from? Looking at the newsgroup headers,
> abuse@giganews.com might be an option, too.
>
> The domain is registered through GoDaddy, so maybe we could email them
> as well.
Now we're getting somewhere.
http://www.forum4designers.com ducks for cover :-)
Cheers
Richard.
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"DigitAlex" <webdigital@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4004c0fc$0$280$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be...quote:
> I understand your concern guys but aren't this getting a bit off topic
> from the review I gently requested for my ne we design :
> http://www.istrasoft.net/tmp/contrast6.jpg
This is usenet. Welcome :-)
However it *is* sort of on topic. That site is using material that I hold
copyright to and is passing it off as their own, or at least pretending that
I posted it to their site, which I did not. This just might, some day,
affect my credibility (shut up brucie).
Copyright issues and stealing stuff from the internet is usually on-topic no
matter which newsgroup you are auditing, except for those wares places of
course.
Flick over to alt.www.webmaster for an education in how far away from topic
things can get. Matters often result in mud-wrestling contests between the
various girls, pictures are included :-)
BTW I'm still waiting for a first draft of a web page from that image.
Anything will do. Just mock up the navigation bit at top right.
Cheers
Richard.
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"brucie" <shit@bruciesusenetshit.info> wrote in message
news:bu2j7p$cipsi$1@ID-117621.news.uni-berlin.de...quote:
> in post <news:4004c0fc$0$280$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be>
> DigitAlex said:
>
>
> sorry, i left. takes too long to download
http://users.bigpond.net.au/rf/test/istra.jpg (<30K, deeply compressed (90%)
ignore the artifacts, the original is very nice).
quote:
> and its not possible to review
> a design from a screencap.
In this case I think so. Your opinion?
quote:
> i have better ways to waste my time.
I see that Tasso is giving away girls and motorcycles over in AWW. Beer
chasers as well. See ya there :-)
Cheers
Richard.
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"JustAnotherGuy" <JustAnotherGuy@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:bu2h38$csk4k$1@ID-214165.news.uni-berlin.de...quote:
> rf wrote:
These[QUOTE][color=darkred]
>
> Small point--you can post through Google groups.
Oh. Didn't know. Thanks.
Even less reason for this thing we are discussing :-)
Ah, a point, google is really bad a threading, is it not?
Cheers
Richard.
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| brucie 2004-01-14, 7:29 am |
| in post: <news:GZ8Nb.11936$Wa.3411@news-server.bigpond.net.au>
"rf" <making.it.up@the.time> said:
quote:
[QUOTE][color=darkred]
> http://users.bigpond.net.au/rf/test/istra.jpg (<30K, deeply compressed (90%)
> ignore the artifacts, the original is very nice).
thanks, its pretty.
quote:
[QUOTE][color=darkred]
> In this case I think so.
a design is very much more that what it looks like
quote:
> Your opinion?
i have none
quote:
> I see that Tasso is giving away girls and motorcycles over in AWW.
what about boats? the SES visited a few hours ago to let me know i've
been flooded in.
--
brucie
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"William Tasso" <news27@tbdata.com> wrote in message
news:bu2oo5$cn418$1@ID-139074.news.uni-berlin.de...quote:
> brucie wrote:
[QUOTE][color=darkred]
> I didn't see any ads on that site - but maybe it's early days.
Why is it there? Altruism?
quote:
> It's a two-way street. Promoting the content of usenet via the web can be
aquote:
> good thing in some circumstances
They aren't promoting the content of usenet. They are stealing the content
from usenet and pretending it is their own. There is absolutely no mention
of usenet anywhere on that site. I looked.
Cheers
Richard.
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| DigitAlex 2004-01-14, 12:32 pm |
| Okay, thx Richard but you didn't know there wasn't that much colors
actually, so here's a light and good looking sharp version as GIF (ye ye
256 col)
http://www.istrasoft.net/tmp/contrast6_60K.gif
;)
brucie wrote:
quote:
> in post <news:4004c0fc$0$280$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be>
> DigitAlex said:
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> sorry, i left. takes too long to download and its not possible to review
> a design from a screencap. i have better ways to waste my time.
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| William Tasso 2004-01-14, 7:30 pm |
| rf wrote:quote:
> "William Tasso" <news27@tbdata.com> wrote in message
> news:bu2oo5$cn418$1@ID-139074.news.uni-berlin.de...
>
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> Why is it there? Altruism?
Well in this particular case it seems to be a cheap way to promote the site
with free content. Suspect the ads will follow when/if the traffic builds
up.
quote:
>
> They aren't promoting the content of usenet. They are stealing the
> content from usenet and pretending it is their own. There is
> absolutely no mention of usenet anywhere on that site. I looked.
>
I know, I know - I had rambled on away from that site in particular. Those
scrambled mutterings were general comments on the issue at large.
But you're absolutely right - I looked too.
--
William Tasso - http://WilliamTasso.com
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| William Tasso 2004-01-14, 7:30 pm |
| rf wrote:quote:
> "JustAnotherGuy" <JustAnotherGuy@mailinator.com> wrote in message
> news:bu2h38$csk4k$1@ID-214165.news.uni-berlin.de...
>
> Oh. Didn't know. Thanks.
>
> Even less reason for this thing we are discussing :-)
>
> Ah, a point, google is really bad a threading, is it not?
ISTR that google groups threads on subject header. hence some threads
appear disjointed as the headers change.
--
William Tasso - http://WilliamTasso.com
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| brucie 2004-01-14, 8:29 pm |
| in post: <news:pan.2004.01.14.23.05.01.387548@goddamn.co.uk>
Toby A Inkster <UseTheAddressInMySig@deadspam.com> said:
quote:
[QUOTE][color=darkred]
[QUOTE][color=darkred]
[QUOTE][color=darkred]
> You might be better off talking to their hosts.
> http://ws.arin.net/cgi-bin/whois.pl...t=66.98.155.205
i've been talking about it to alif terrason in the operations security
department of savvis communications corp.
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> They aren't promoting the content of usenet. They are stealing the
> content from usenet and pretending it is their own. There is
> absolutely no mention of usenet anywhere on that site. I looked.
That site also uses content from ciwa*, where faqs are sometimes
posted. I wonder if the site filters those out to keep up the pretense?
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| DigitAlex wrote:quote:
> Okay, thx Richard but you didn't know there wasn't
Still top-posting, eh?
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