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> http://www.nicoschuyt.nl/ontwerp
> - The picture left on top displays to slowly because it's part of the
> menu at the end of the coding.

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> The latest version so far: http://www.nicoschuyt.nl/ontwerp
> Changes:
> - Added all the pages
> - Draft of the content
> - One picture for the hover effect in the main menu instead of two
> - Different technique for positioning of menu and content box
> - Extra attention for accessibility (like access keys and an extra link

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> to menu" on top)
> - Tested extensively in IE6, Mozilla1.4, Opera7.2 and Lynx
> - Site search with keywords (not complete)
> Problems (known :-):
> - In Lynx special characters like ë, é etc are not rendered correctly.
> - The picture left on top displays to slowly because it's part of the menu
> at the end of the coding.

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> Your comments are appreciated :-)

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> BTW FP again.

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> The latest version so far: http://www.nicoschuyt.nl/ontwerp
> Your comments are appreciated :-)

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> Nico Schuyt wrote
> http://www.nicoschuyt.nl/ontwerp

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> I can't find anything wrong with it. Look good. I like the artwork,
> where did you steal that from :-)

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> When is the English version due. I want to read what you're up to.

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> OH MY &deity!
> http://www.nicoschuyt.nl/ontwerp/wie_ben_ik.php
> Is that you ? And just *look* at that desk. You're not a computer
> geek at all, you are one of those <shudder> tidy </shudder> people.
> What happens if you get thirsty or hungry. There are no left-over
> pizzas or coke cans on that desk *anywhere*.

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> Frontpage is a usefull editor *in the right hands*, such as yours. In
> the hands of the novice/newbie it can be a disaster.

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> Nico Schuyt wrote in message ...
[QUOTE][color=darkred]
> Nico - the images on your portfolio page totalled 129K, which made
> for very slow loading on dial-up. The thumbnails are around 13 - 17K
> each when they could easily be less than 5K.

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> rf wrote:
>
>
> Strange, you're the third one suggesting it's not mine. Seems like a guy
> named Leo did something similar. I refuse to pay any attention to those
> absurd insinuations of course.

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>
> That's the advantage of being Dutch. No one has the slightest idea what

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> of nonsense we write. About as effective as PGP :-)

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>
> The appropriate answer is "It took me a day to clean my desk" but, I must
> admit, I *am* tidy. Not really in my nature, but if I don't I'll drown in

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> enormous mess.

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>
> I disagree with that. It should be "In the hands of the novice/newbie it
> *will* be a disaster".

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> Thanks for the critique!

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> Nico Schuyt wrote
[QUOTE][color=darkred]
[QUOTE][color=darkred]
[QUOTE][color=darkred]
> I personally like my mess...
> http://users.bigpond.net.au/rf/test/c.jpg
> (real time, that is just as it is right now (we are currently in
> constrution mode, building a new USB device));

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> Perhaps a good idea if the regulars in this ng (finally) show who they are.
> Maybe even a webcam? I'd love to see Bonnie for example :0

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> Nico Schuyt said:
>
>
> bonnie seems to have removed her pic from her site

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> which is a good
> thing as i was wearing a hole in the monitor glass from constantly
> licking it.

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> The final version will be around the 5K you suggested :-)

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> Nico Schuyt wrote in message ...
>
> *Always* work from the original images though, NOT from the ones
> you've already resized, as the quality from those being opened and
> then compressed to 5K will be awful.

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> "Nico Schuyt" <nschuyt@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3fcb22b0$0$190$3b62cedd@news.wanadoo.nl...
>
>
> I personally like my mess...
>
> http://users.bigpond.net.au/rf/test/c.jpg
>

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> (real time, that is just as it is right now (we are currently in
> constrution mode, building a new USB device));
>

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>
> Strange, you're the third one suggesting it's not mine. Seems like a guy
> named Leo did something similar. I refuse to pay any attention to those
> absurd insinuations of course.

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> rf wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Great!! I'm missing however the most interesting thing on that picture i.e
> *you* :-)
> Perhaps a good idea if the regulars in this ng (finally) show who they

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> Maybe even a webcam? I'd love to see Bonnie for example :0
> Nico
>
>

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[QUOTE][color=darkred]
>
> Hmm seems I have a book somewhere called something like "leo's
> notebook", maybe you left it laying around somewhere and I picked it
> up. ;-)

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> Looks good though and I like the colour scheme, in particular the
> non-white background.

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> Nico Schuyt wrote

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[QUOTE][color=darkred]
> LOL. Didn't I have my picture in my header at one point and someone
> insulted me?

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>I personally like my mess...
>
>http://users.bigpond.net.au/rf/test/c.jpg
>
>(real time, that is just as it is right now (we are currently in constrution
>mode, building a new USB device));

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>Great!! I'm missing however the most interesting thing on that picture i.e
>*you* :-)
>Perhaps a good idea if the regulars in this ng (finally) show who they are.
>Maybe even a webcam? I'd love to see Bonnie for example :0
>Nico

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> Nico Schuyt wrote

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[QUOTE][color=darkred]
> I'm not too much of a regular, a little new here but participating:
> http://dreamcities.net/freehost/and...ives/Anduin.jpg

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> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 11:57:25 GMT, rf wrote the following message
> <F0Gyb.34983$aT.27071@news-server.bigpond.net.au>:

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[QUOTE][color=darkred]
> Damn that's a mess, and look at everything else BUT the desk area...
> clean.
> Now that we're on the topic of our pride and joy:
> http://dreamcities.net/freehost/anduin/images/desk.jpg

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> Perhaps a good idea if the regulars in this ng (finally) show who they are.
> Maybe even a webcam? I'd love to see Bonnie for example :0

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> Your comments are appreciated :-)

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> Nico Schuyt wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>
> I hate to be an old grouch Nico, but in the development pics you have
> up in the portfolio section, I can see one of my pet peeves - using
> national flags to indicate language preferences... I'd humbly suggest
> making text links saying "Nederlands" and "English" instead. Flags do
> denote nationality and have nothing at all to do with language.
> Switzerland has 3 official languages, and 1 semi-official one, my
> country has 11 (when last I bothered to look, it could well be more
> now).

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> Otherwise, I like the site a lot :)

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>After the picture of yourself I'd expected something errr, more spectacular :-)
>But what about the critique on my site? You're not here only to show us
>pictures I hope :-)

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> Nico Schuyt wrote
[QUOTE][color=darkred]
> There is really nothing more I could say besides that it
> looks good to me, especially done in Front Page

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> and all. And
> considering I know French and not Dutch, a little hard for me to read

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> Actually, you're missing a bit of 'alt' text in your images, although
> I see you're using CSS to show some of your images on the menu.

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> Nico Schuyt wrote:

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[QUOTE][color=darkred]
> I gone hate this. Don't nail me to the wall.
> uri is http://www.evandervaart.nl/img/edwin.png

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> (though I think that an English and Dutch flag hardly can be
> misunderstood).

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> Nico Schuyt wrote:
>
[QUOTE][color=darkred]
> Although it wasn't an English flag[1]: it was a Union Jack (UK flag).
> In the UK we speak English, Welsh, Scottish Gaelic, Irish Gaelic and
> Manx with a smattering of Cornish, Breton and Cumbric.

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> Would a New Zealander instinctively click the Union Jack? What about a
> Canadian? Might the Canadian accidentally click the Dutch flag
> because it looks a bit like a French flag?

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> [1] The English flag is St George's Cross: a thick red cross (+, not
> x) on a white field.

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> picayunish wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Nice to see finally what you look like!
> And nobody's gonna nail you down. Compared to brucie you could be a movie
> star :-)

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> Anduin wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Best editor there is around

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>
>
>
>Ok, ok, ok, I'll rethink the bloody flag :-)
>Thanks for the information.

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> Nico Schuyt wrote

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[QUOTE][color=darkred]
> Ah the agony, when flags and countries get involved in discussion,
> watch out! ;o)
> Try making one of the flags upside down ;-P

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> Nico Schuyt wrote:
>
> Thanx for the compliment.

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> Want a good laugh?
> http://wipkip.us/me.html

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>
>Want a good laugh?
>http://wipkip.us/me.html

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> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 08:06:21 GMT, Wipkip wrote the following message
> <1Qgzb.31403$r%2.19255@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com>:
>
> Your alt text for that photo says 20,000 instead of 2,000. I'm such a
> Nit Picker lately ;o)
>

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> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 08:06:21 GMT, Wipkip wrote the following message
> <1Qgzb.31403$r%2.19255@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com>:
> I'm such a Nit Picker lately ;o)
>

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> http://wipkip.us/me.html

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>Nico Schuyt wrote:
>
>
>Although it wasn't an English flag[1]: it was a Union Jack (UK flag).

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> In
>the UK we speak English, Welsh, Scottish Gaelic, Irish Gaelic and Manx
>with a smattering of Cornish, Breton and Cumbric.

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>
>Would a New Zealander instinctively click the Union Jack?

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>What about a
>Canadian? Might the Canadian accidentally click the Dutch flag because it
>looks a bit like a French flag?
>
>[1] The English flag is St George's Cross: a thick red cross (+, not x) on
>a white field.
>

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> In message <pan.2003.12.02.18.04.22.453678@goddamn.co.uk>, Toby A
>
> Probably.

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> Anduin wrote:
>
>
>
> The subject seems to be even more complicated as CSS.
> I'll add an mp3 file with an extensive oral explanation about the choice of
> the language :-)

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> In message <pan.2003.12.02.18.04.22.453678@goddamn.co.uk>, Toby A
> Inkster <UseTheAddressInMySig@deadspam.com> writes
>
> Probably.

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> jake wrote:
>
>
> Well, as an American I get miffed at seeing the Union Jack always
> representing English. After all, the US is a whole lot bigger than that
> stinkin' little island. Size should matter!

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> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:58:45 +0200, kchayka <"kchayka"
>
>
> But why would anyone use a US flag to represent english language? US
> people speak something quite different.... ;-)
>

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> Probably not. Neither would an Australian. In fact when presented with a
> New Zealand flag and an Australian flag side by side it is hard to tell the
> difference (at thumbnail dimensions). The Australian flag has one more star,
> and a small one at that.

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> Well, as an American I get miffed at seeing the Union Jack always
> representing English. After all, the US is a whole lot bigger than that
> stinkin' little island. Size should matter!

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> Nico Schuyt wrote:
>
>
> Although it wasn't an English flag[1]: it was a Union Jack (UK flag). In
> the UK we speak English, Welsh, Scottish Gaelic, Irish Gaelic

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>and Manx
> with a smattering of Cornish, Breton and Cumbric.
>
> Would a New Zealander instinctively click the Union Jack? What about a
> Canadian? Might the Canadian accidentally click the Dutch flag because it
> looks a bit like a French flag?
>
> [1] The English flag is St George's Cross: a thick red cross (+, not x) on
> a white field.
>
> --
> Toby A Inkster BSc (Hons) ARCS
> Contact Me - http://www.goddamn.co.uk/tobyink/?page=132
>

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> Zak McGregor wrote:
> We speak english in the US. It's the British that have mucked it up so bad.

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> /ducks & runs

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> Wipkip wrote:
>
>
> Plus, they don't know how to spell even simple words like "color".

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>
> <aol> me too </aol>

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> "Toby A Inkster" <UseTheAddressInMySig@deadspam.com> wrote in message
> news:pan.2003.12.02.18.04.22.453678@goddamn.co.uk...
>
>
> You wrote "In the UK we speak ... Irish Gaelic??

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> Are you inferring that Ireland is part of the UK?

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> :-)
>

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> kchayka wrote:
>
> Because it isn't a word.

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>
>"Toby A Inkster" <UseTheAddressInMySig@deadspam.com> wrote in message
>news:pan.2003.12.02.18.04.22.453678@goddamn.co.uk...
>
>
>You wrote "In the UK we speak ... Irish Gaelic??
>Are you inferring that Ireland is part of the UK?
>
>:-)
>

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>--
>W
>

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> William Tasso wrote:
>
>
> Hmmm, tell that to the W3C... :)

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> Are you inferring that Ireland is part of the UK?

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> William Tasso wrote:
>
> Hmmm, tell that to the W3C... :)

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> kchayka wrote:
>
>
> The W3C has its own weird brand of English.
>
> If you go round to a W3C dinner party, the most important guest sits
> at the <thead/>.

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>
> talking of colours/colors and spelling and inconsistencies as we are:
>
> check this: http://williamtasso.com/usenet/john-major.html
>
> IE users will see more 'issues' than Moz/Opera users (not checked in others)

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> check this: http://williamtasso.com/usenet/john-major.html
>
> IE users will see more 'issues' than Moz/Opera users (not checked in others)

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> William Tasso wrote:
>
>
> I bet you didn't expect this:
> http://www.goddamn.co.uk/tobyink/scratch/grey-vs-gray

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> On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 01:42:56 +0200, Toby A Inkster <"Toby A Inkster"
> <UseTheAddressInMySig@deadspam.com>> wrote:
>
> Is that Konqeror?

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> Sometime around Thu, 04 Dec 2003 02:44:46 +0200, Zak McGregor is
> reported to have stated:
>
> Notice how it says "Dillo" at the top? ;-)

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> West wrote:
>
> Well you're welcome to speak in any tongue you like over here - making
> yourself undestood is a completely different issue.
>
>
> UK - The united kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
>
>
> I know, I know ;o)

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>
> --
> William Tasso - http://WilliamTasso.com
>
>

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> West wrote:
>
>
> Part of it, yes.

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>
> --
> Toby A Inkster BSc (Hons) ARCS
> Contact Me - http://www.goddamn.co.uk/tobyink/?page=132
>

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> William Tasso wrote:
>
>
> I bet you didn't expect this:
> http://www.goddamn.co.uk/tobyink/scratch/grey-vs-gray

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>
> Neah.
> The best editor is PointyStick & Dirt :-D

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> Not since I stumbled across the issue - kh so many years ago. I'd say Dillo
> is gettinc it right.

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> Anduin wrote:
>
> That's how picayunish got his name, Picky.

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> "picayunish" <e_vdvaart@yahoo.co.uk> schreef in bericht
> news:vF7zb.1023$7U1.1787@amstwist00...
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Neah,
> The best editor is Brucie, one needs some texteditor next to Brucie tho=

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> :)
> But its a solid team.

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>Wipkip wrote:
>
>That's right.
>
>Then we can Anduin NP (Nit Picker) :-D

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> Strange, you're the third one suggesting it's not mine. Seems like a guy
> named Leo did something similar.

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