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> http://www.amykimber.com/temp.asp

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> Hello again,
>
> Well... http://www.amykimber.com/temp.asp - I'm having another bash
> at no-tables layouts... what do you think? :-)

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> Hello again,
>
> Well... http://www.amykimber.com/temp.asp - I'm having another

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> at no-tables layouts... what do you think? :-)

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>
> Now I've used px values quite a lot, but the centre does not have

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> set width, so it's dynamic :-) Now, I've had to set a height for middle
> sections... am I right in assuming that you can't just set the top and
> bottom values? When I do that my sections end up all over the place :-/
>
> So, if I use the basic layout I've got here but change the height

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> the sections depending on what's in each page will that work?
>
> http://www.amykimber.com/ed.asp is the table version I was working
> on till I got side tracked this morning!
>
> Any feedback welcome :-)
>
> Amy with no elephants
>
>

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> Hello again,
>
> Well... http://www.amykimber.com/temp.asp - I'm having another

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> at no-tables layouts... what do you think? :-)
>
> Now I've used px values quite a lot, but the centre does not have

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> set width, so it's dynamic :-) Now, I've had to set a height for middle
> sections... am I right in assuming that you can't just set the top and
> bottom values? When I do that my sections end up all over the place :-/
>
> So, if I use the basic layout I've got here but change the height

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> the sections depending on what's in each page will that work?
>
> http://www.amykimber.com/ed.asp is the table version I was working
> on till I got side tracked this morning!

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> *cough*inconsistency*cough*

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> When I hit gallery, there were a few problems...

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> 1) as I moved between the submenu in the gallery, the blue-grey bar on the
> left changed size by a few pixels
> 2) same as #1, the image of the city building was jumping around the place

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> 3) Horrible navigation... where's the back button? where's the main menu?
> I'm an idiot user, currently in the "cornwall album" and wish to navigate

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> the "holidays album" or the "education" section. What now?

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> Artist, the good little Microsoft drone heard "Amy" <blar@blar.blar.com>
> say...
>
>
> I think the top white seperator that forms the 'T' should be fat, and fat
> white seperator between your navigation and content should be thin to

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> your logo. That, and I would have the links start off without any

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> and then have them underlined on rollover. Other than that, it looks good.

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> Loads quick at 56K. The layout looks great to me. But ... the pretty
> graphic that delineates the right hand side of the page covers up the far
> right hand side of the text in Mac IE5 at 640x480 rez. Looks good in Opera
> 5 and, I suspect, Mozilla if it hadn't crashed on me while I opened it
> without entering your URL.

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> I wouldn't be overly concerned. Time to reboot.

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> "Amy" <blar@blar.blar.com> wrote in message
> news:bpasq0$74$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk...
> bash
>
>
>
> Your page says you're Hons degree computer scientist and web developer.
> ...now try to learn a little about design, 'cause your page looks quite
> awful!
>
> Design is all around you. Look and copy ...supermarket labels, magazine
> covers, cinema posters, junk mail in your post etc etc etc.
>
> --
> W
>
>

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> "West" <not@this.one> wrote in message

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>
> Awful...I think not...No need for insults here.

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>She is not trying to
> sell a can of beans or something. The site looks great for a personal
> website promoting an individual.
>
> Amy, Keep at it....
>
> K

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> Awful yes! Read her reply in this thread to Kevin Torr and you will see

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> knows it and I doubt if she is insulted.

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> The site looks great

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> "West" <not@this.one> wrote in message
> news:ic1vb.1231$nm6.4670@news.indigo.ie...
>
> Amy
>
> Hello all,
>
> GFY? What's that?

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> Wasn't insulted so much as 'oh.....', I don't mind that you think my
> site is awlful, but some explanation would be nice! :-) What don't you

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>
> Kevin was looking at my photo site, a totally different thing - which
> isn't for public consumption, and yes, it's not the best thing I did but

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> works well (took 2 or 3 hours though, including sorting out hte pics and
> up-loading!), what I wanted you guys to look at was my new main site, the
> red one....
>
> Actually I was asking if the <div>s were alright, even though the
> height's are hard coded, but no-one seemed to asnwer that one....
>
> Maybe I wasn't sarcastic enough on my reply to Kevin's post at the end
> :-)
>
> Telling someone their site's 'awful' isn't very helpful at all....
> no-one purposfully creates a bad site (well... I hope not... though that
> would explain a lot!), so some guidence would be apreciated.
>
> I like my design, my navigation is very clear, and I think simple to

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> (you click on a link and a page relivent to the link text apears....

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> enough no?). Yes it's colourful but I am sooo board of dull, lifeless

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> At least this one grabs you, but without the colours clashing :-)
>
> IMO the text is readable, it's certainly scale-able....
>
> So, what's Awful about my new, red site? (I'm asking in a good way...
> it just sounds upperty!)

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>
> Amy K.... looking forward to your reply :-)
>
>
>
> Somebody likes it :-) Thanks Kay

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> http://www.amykimber.com/temp.asp

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> 1. The colours are mismatched.

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> 2. The site lacks any visual flair.

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> 3. You should use a spell checker.

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> 4. The graphic on the right has no purpose.

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> 5. Your choice of font for your title graphic (Optima, or some Zapf
> variation) is of a different era from the other graphic.

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> 6. The top banner area is a space waster.

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> 7. Four of your six links give a page not found error.

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> 8. Your visited links colour is almost the same as the background colour

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> (content section)
> 8. I don't reall know why I'm bothering to respond --

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> ....I guess I expected better from a "computer scientist (hons) and web
> developer". It seems to be so hard for young people to get into college
> nowadays that I would hope their college course would make it possible for
> them to produce good finished work. Your site does not confirm my hopes -
> thank God you're not my doctor or I'm doomed :-)

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> "West" <not@this.one> wrote in message
> news:J74vb.1249$nm6.4769@news.indigo.ie...
>
>
>
> In your opinion, I like them... the dark grey goes great with the dark
> red, the light blue, if it was a lighter shade could jar, but taking

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> the yays outweight the nays by quite a bit.
>
> When desiding not to have a black and white site there is immediactly
> the danger that your colour choise will upset someone (ok, upset is too
> strong), the aim is to please as many of your potential audience (that you
> care about) as possible.
>
>
> You mean you don't like my random graphic on the right hand side? :-)
> But too many graphics would get in the way, I'm looking for a 'clean'

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> that's not dull. I'm a programmer not a graphical designer. Good graphiocs
> do not make a good site, it's the content that's important. That's why

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> used colours, they can make it visually more interesting without being
> totally irelivent and bloating the download time.
>
>
> Oh boy yeah :-) hang on... there's only one page ATM... 62 words,

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> which 2 were spelt wrong, i.e. 3%, that's not too bad, anyway... on with

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> design issues...
>
>
> yes it does. it looks good and it makes the page more interesting.
> That's a valid purpose - IMHO of course :-)
>
>
> The other heading... well, it is different, not sure about different
> era... interesting comment though.... certainly one to mull on, thanks
>
>
> Ah ha! oooo, cunning plans afoot there :-) It's only that size on the
> first page, on subsiquent pages I'm going to half it - if not more, by
> having "Amy Kimber" graphic one side, and "Big Hair" (or a sensible

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> the other.... the space on the first page will be used for an image of me,
> reclining, leaning on elbow..... I'm still trying to A. get the pic and B.
> remove the background and add shadow in a way I'm happy with!
>
>
> err... that's because there's only one page on the site at the

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> temp.asp (the name gives it away)
>
>
> really? <whine>it's not on my screen</whine> Thanks, I've only tested

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> on two monitors, both seemed fine to me but that's not indication to go by
>
>
> Because you're a good, decent human being who wants to spread good
> web-design skills through out mankind.
>
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>
> <sigh> and you were doing so well.....
>
> Thanks for the feed back anyway, always good to hear some else's
> opinions - esp. about the visited link contract.
>
> Amy K

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