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> http://www.granatedit.com
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> It looks right in IE only. In Opera and Netscape, I get blue links. Any
> ideas. I tried David Dorward's style definition for different types of
> a-links, but the result was the desired effect in Opera and Netscape but

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> IE.
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>
> "Bonnie Granat" <bgranat@granatedit.com> wrote in message
> news:3fb4c63e@andromeda.5sc.net...
> not
>
> I used a class, instead of David's method, and it works fine now.
>

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> "Bonnie Granat" <bgranat@granatedit.com> wrote in message
> news:3fb4caf6@andromeda.5sc.net...
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>
> "stylesheet" media="all" href="111403granat.css" must mean you are on
> revision <grin>111,403</grin>
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> "Bonnie Granat" <bgranat@granatedit.com> wrote in message
> news:3fb4c63e@andromeda.5sc.net...
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>
> I used a class, instead of David's method, and it works fine now.

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> "stylesheet" media="all" href="111403granat.css" must mean you are on
> revision <grin>111,403</grin>

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> Terry Kimpling wrote:
>
>
> Nah, Bonnie uses a hexadecimal numbering system, so she's actually on
> revision 1,119,235.
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> Artist, the good little Microsoft drone heard Toby A Inkster
> <UseTheAddressInMySig@deadspam.com> say...
>
>
> Are you sure she isn't using binary

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> Bonnie Granat wrote:
>
> The dot.gif as background picture is probably more efficient than

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> the image every time.
> Try adding the following code to the class of the menu link:
> background: url('dot.gif') no-repeat right;
> padding-right: 10px;
>
> Nico
>
>

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>
> "Nico Schuyt" <nschuyt@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3fb686e2$0$179$1b62eedf@news.wanadoo.nl...
> repeating
>
> Now that's cool. Thanks!
>
> --

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>
>
> But there's a problem. When I mouse over the links, dot.gif disappears and
> reappears. I put the same code in the hover style, but it didn't help. I
> don't think I like this. Unless there's a solution to it, I'll put it back
> the way it was. But I'll wait a bit before I do that.
>
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> Yes, this isn't going to work. Thanks, anyway, Nico. If there's a
> solution, let me know. I've got to put it back the way it was.

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> Bonnie Granat wrote:
>
>
> Well, you did what you announced: waited 16 minutes :-)
> Your files are no longer available so I can't see what you did. A quick
> experiment (http://www.nicoschuyt.nl/test/bonnie_test.htm) seems to work
> properly (IE6, Mozilla 1.4).
> Regards, Nico
>
>

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> The squares disappear when I mouse over them on your test page.

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> Bonnie Granat wrote:
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>
>
> That's very strange Bonnie!
> Like I wrote, I tested in IE6, Mozilla1.4 and it works properly. In

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> too.
> Just cleared my cache and tested again. No problems on hovering.
> If you're right I have a problem too. I just made a design for a new site
> using the same principle.
> Which browser(version) and OS do you use?
> Anybody else the same problem?

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> dissaperating.
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> rf wrote:
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>
> ????
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> "Nico Schuyt" wrote
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> Works fine for me.

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> rf wrote:
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>
>
> Maybe it's just a joke of Bonnie to make me upset :-)
> Nico
>
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> "Nico Schuyt" <nschuyt@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3fb9f343$0$138$1b62eedf@news.wanadoo.nl...
>
> It's no joke. The dots disappear. I'll try to take a picture of it.
>
>

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> http://www.granatedit.com/bgmenu.gif
>
> Finally was able to get a picture of it.
>
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> That's very strange Bonnie!
> Like I wrote, I tested in IE6, Mozilla1.4 and it works properly. In
> Opera7.2 too.
> Just cleared my cache and tested again. No problems on hovering.
> If you're right I have a problem too. I just made a design for a new
> site using the same principle. Which browser(version) and OS do you
> use? Anybody else the same problem?

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> I did a test page at
> http://www.granatedit.com/testcapture.html, but the dots reappear
> after about a second and I cannot trigger the taking of the picture
> within that time.

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> I don't want this.

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> Nico Schuyt wrote:
>
> Your site works fine in IE 5.5, Firebird 0.7+, and K-Meleon 0.8.
> However, in IE 5.01, the square dots are overlapping the right-most
> character of your links. No disappearing dots, though! Using W2K here.

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> "Bonnie Granat" <bgranat@granatedit.com> wrote

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> Also see http://www.granatedit.com/bgmenu2.gif

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> Bonnie Granat wrote:
>
> No disappearing dot in IE6, Moz1.4 en Opera 7.2.
> Also no problems reported by MORA in IE 5.5, Firebird 0.7+, and K-Meleon
> 0.8.
>
> Must be something personal in your relation with the site :-)
> Shy dot maybe? Female probably, my wife doesn't like to be hovered too.
>
> Ehhh, being hovered?
>
> Nico
>
>

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> Bonnie Granat wrote:
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>
> Which version of IE and OS do you use?
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>

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> Nico Schuyt wrote:
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> 6.0.2800.1106.xpsp2.030422-1633
> Last update listed is Q824145.

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> Bonnie Granat wrote:
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>
>
>
> Sorry Bonnie, I just can't explain it :-(
> Nico
>
>

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> Nico Schuyt wrote
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> But you saw the pic? I can't know that unless you tell me. ; )

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> Nico Schuyt wrote:
>
> Your site works fine in IE 5.5, Firebird 0.7+, and K-Meleon 0.8.
> However, in IE 5.01, the square dots are overlapping the right-most
> character of your links. No disappearing dots, though! Using W2K here.
>
> -MORA
>

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> Bonnie Granat wrote:
>
> No disappearing dot in IE6, Moz1.4 en Opera 7.2.
> Also no problems reported by MORA in IE 5.5, Firebird 0.7+, and K-Meleon
> 0.8.
>
> Must be something personal in your relation with the site :-)
> Shy dot maybe? Female probably, my wife doesn't like to be hovered too.
>
> Ehhh, being hovered?
>
> Nico
>
>

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>
> "Nico Schuyt" <nschuyt@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3fba74d4$0$139$1b62eedf@news.wanadoo.nl...
>
> But you saw the pic? I can't know that unless you tell me. ; )

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>
>
> The squares disappear when I mouse over them on your test page. I
> don't like that on other pages when it happens, and I don't want my
> gifs to do that. Remember how I have asked about disappearing gifs
> when I mouse over them? It's true that it happened only in IE, but
> because 98% of my visitors are using IE, I would rather have the site
> look good in IE and not have disappearing gifs.

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> Thanks, again. If another solution works, I'm all ears!

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>
> Bonnie, I saw some disappearing dots in the page you had up there for 16
> minutes yesterday. They were in the body of the text, not in your nav bar.
> They also caused the text to jump around, leading me to belive something

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> examine. I only glanced at it yesterday.
>
> I see no disappearing dots [1] in your recent samples. They just stay

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>
> I do, however, notice that you specify the background for both a and
> a:hover. I would guess that your cache settings are causing the a:hover
> image to be reloaded from the server. Whilst this round trip is hapenning
> the browser is displaying a blank background. You get an intermittent
> missing dot, just like it takes a second or so for the dots to originally
> appear on page load.
>
> I don't think this is your problem but I have seen a bug in IE where it
> sometimes will not display the second occurrance of a gif with the same
> name. This was not in a background but in <img> elements. I had the same

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> in ten or so <img> elements. Only the first one displayed, and it seemed

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> be dependent on refresh as well IIRC. Seems IE gets it's caching

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> First of all I made ten identical gif's with different names. Fixed it.

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> I accidently fixed another similar page by converting the gif to a jpeg

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> all was fine. Yep, 10 gifs don't display, 10 jpegs do. No, dont ask, I
> didn't believe it either :-)
>
> [1] The dots do disappear a little bit when my canvas is narrow and your
> links wrap:
>
> http://users.bigpond.net.au/rf/test/bonnia.jpg (heavily compressed).
>
> Cheers
> Richard.
>
>
>

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> If you go to http://www.granatedit.com/testcapture.html, that's an example
> page. It's funny you say what you say, because as I mentioned in another
> post, after the page has been loaded for a while, and even if I leave it

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> come back, the disappearing dots stop disappearing.
> But if I reload the page, it happens again. I have disk cleanup running,

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> every day I think I am cleaning out the temporary files. Frankly, I

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> once looking for that folder and being unable to find it.
>
> --
> Bonnie Granat
> http://www.granatedit.com
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>
> "rf" <making.it.up@the.time> wrote in message
> news:4Zxub.16536$aT.475@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

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> If you go to http://www.granatedit.com/testcapture.html, that's an example
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> "Bonnie Granat" <bgranat@granatedit.com> wrote in message
> news:3fbab0a3@andromeda.5sc.net...
>
>
>
> That's the page I was looking at.

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>
> "Bonnie Granat" <bgranat@granatedit.com> wrote in message
> news:3fbab0a3@andromeda.5sc.net...
>
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>
> That's the page I was looking at.
>
> Cheers
> Richard.
>
>

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> "rf" <making.it.up@the.time> wrote in message
> news:Rezub.16663$aT.8169@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> example
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> There's no background for hover. Maybe there was yesterday, but not now.
> Just color.

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>
> "Bonnie Granat" <bgranat@granatedit.com> wrote in message
> news:3fbaca5e@andromeda.5sc.net...
>
>
> <quote src="test111403granat.css">
> a.menutext:hover {
> color: #B52222;
> background: url('dot.gif') no-repeat right;
> padding-right: 10px;
> }
> </quote>
>
> Cheers
> Richard.
>
>

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