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Bonnie Granat

2003-12-03, 7:25 pm

Anyone know the code for a redirect that pauses and shows a message on the
screen telling visitors they're being sent to a new page?

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Bonnie Granat
Granat Technical Editing and Writing
http://www.editors-writers.info

Bonnie Granat

2003-12-03, 7:25 pm

I have it, so thanks anyway.


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Bonnie Granat
Granat Technical Editing and Writing
http://www.granatedit.com


"Bonnie Granat" <bgranat@editors-writers.info> wrote in message
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quote:

> Anyone know the code for a redirect that pauses and shows a message on the
> screen telling visitors they're being sent to a new page?
>
> --
> Bonnie Granat
> Granat Technical Editing and Writing
> http://www.editors-writers.info
>



Wipkip

2003-12-03, 7:25 pm

Bonnie Granat wrote:
quote:

> Anyone know the code for a redirect that pauses and shows a message
> on the screen telling visitors they're being sent to a new page?



I gave you that last year. :o)

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Duende


Bonnie Granat

2003-12-03, 7:25 pm


"Wipkip" <duende_d@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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quote:

> Bonnie Granat wrote:
>
> I gave you that last year. :o)
>
> --
> Duende
>
>



Duende, my boy!! How are you?? Long time, no see.


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Bonnie Granat
Granat Technical Editing and Writing
http://www.granatedit.com

David Dorward

2003-12-03, 7:25 pm

Bonnie Granat wrote:
quote:

> I have it, so thanks anyway.



Be careful with it - it generally isn't a good idea. Most bots won't respect
it, so you could find your search engine position dropping, and it messes
up the back button. A normal http permanent redirect is probably a better
bet.

--
David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/
Wipkip

2003-12-03, 7:25 pm

Bonnie Granat wrote:
quote:

> "Wipkip" <duende_d@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:89%ob.974$D25.905@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com...
>
> Duende, my boy!! How are you?? Long time, no see.



Been duckin fires, breathing lots of nasty smoke. They say it's not good for kids &
us old things. I think they are right. Speaking of right, why do you have
Soooooooooo much blank acreage on the right of your ner site?

--
Duende


Bonnie Granat

2003-12-03, 7:25 pm


"David Dorward" <dorward@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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quote:

> Bonnie Granat wrote:
>
>
> Be careful with it - it generally isn't a good idea. Most bots won't


respect
quote:

> it, so you could find your search engine position dropping, and it messes
> up the back button. A normal http permanent redirect is probably a better
> bet.
>



David, this is the code I'm using. Is the good kind or the bad kind? I can
easily change it. Thanks.

<html>
<head>
<META HTTP-EQUIV=Refresh CONTENT="5; URL=http://www.granatedit.com/">
</head>
<body>
<h3>Granat Technical Editing has moved...</h3>
If you are not redirected to our new location in five seconds, click <a
href="http://www.granatedit.com">here</a>.
</body>
</html>



--
Bonnie Granat
Granat Technical Editing and Writing
http://www.granatedit.com

Wipkip

2003-12-03, 7:25 pm

Bonnie Granat wrote:
quote:

> "David Dorward" <dorward@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:bo2oss$r64$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk...
>
> David, this is the code I'm using. Is the good kind or the bad kind?
> I can easily change it. Thanks.
>
> <html>
> <head>
> <META HTTP-EQUIV=Refresh CONTENT="5; URL=http://www.granatedit.com/">
> </head>
> <body>
> <h3>Granat Technical Editing has moved...</h3>
> If you are not redirected to our new location in five seconds, click
> <a href="http://www.granatedit.com">here</a>.
> </body>
> </html>



Do it in your htaccess file.

Redirect permanent / http://www.granatedit.com/

--
Duende


Bonnie Granat

2003-12-03, 7:25 pm


"Wipkip" <duende_d@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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quote:

> Bonnie Granat wrote:
>
> Do it in your htaccess file.
>
> Redirect permanent / http://www.granatedit.com/
>
> --



I found the htaccess file, which is empty. Are you saying to put the above
words "Redirect permanent / http://www.granatedit.com/" into the file just
like that, with nothing else? What about the pages that are in there now
with the above content?

B.

Wipkip

2003-12-03, 7:25 pm

Bonnie Granat wrote:
quote:

>
>
> I found the htaccess file, which is empty. Are you saying to put the
> above words "Redirect permanent / http://www.granatedit.com/" into
> the file just like that, with nothing else? What about the pages
> that are in there now with the above content?
>
> B.


That should redirect everything to your new home page. You can do each page too.

Redirect permanent /page1.htm http://www.granatedit.com/page1.htm
Redirect permanent /page2.htm http://www.granatedit.com/page2.htm
Note the single space..............^

--
Duende


Bonnie Granat

2003-12-03, 7:25 pm


"Wipkip" <duende_d@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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quote:

> Bonnie Granat wrote:
> That should redirect everything to your new home page. You can do each


page too.
quote:

>
> Redirect permanent /page1.htm http://www.granatedit.com/page1.htm
> Redirect permanent /page2.htm http://www.granatedit.com/page2.htm
> Note the single space..............^
>
> --



Why is this preferable to what I have now? I'm going to be closing down the
old site in a couple of months.


--
Bonnie Granat
Granat Technical Editing and Writing
http://www.granatedit.com

Brett

2003-12-03, 7:25 pm

Search engines will follow a Redirect permanent in your htaccess file but
most search engines do not like the meta refresh tags.

--
Brett
Provision Tech
http://www.provisiontech.net

"Bonnie Granat" <bgranat@granatedit.com> wrote in message
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quote:

>
> "Wipkip" <duende_d@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:jkfpb.1061$O_2.74@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com...
> page too.
>
> Why is this preferable to what I have now? I'm going to be closing down


the
quote:

> old site in a couple of months.
>
>
> --
> Bonnie Granat
> Granat Technical Editing and Writing
> http://www.granatedit.com
>




Wipkip

2003-12-03, 7:25 pm

Brett wrote:
quote:

> Search engines will follow a Redirect permanent in your htaccess file
> but most search engines do not like the meta refresh tags.
>
>


In fact they think meta refresh are evil.

--
Duende


Mark Parnell

2003-12-03, 7:25 pm

Sometime around Sun, 02 Nov 2003 23:42:05 GMT, Wipkip is reported to have
stated:
quote:

> Brett wrote:
> In fact they think meta refresh are evil.



As do many users. :-)

--
Mark Parnell
http://www.clarkecomputers.com.au
Bonnie Granat

2003-12-03, 7:25 pm


"Mark Parnell" <webmaster@clarkecomputers.com.au> wrote in message
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quote:

> Sometime around Sun, 02 Nov 2003 23:42:05 GMT, Wipkip is reported to have
> stated:
>
>
> As do many users. :-)
>



What is the difference that users experience?


--
Bonnie Granat
Granat Technical Editing and Writing
http://www.granatedit.com

Mark Parnell

2003-12-03, 7:25 pm

Sometime around Sun, 2 Nov 2003 21:40:51 -0500, Bonnie Granat is reported
to have stated:
[Meta refresh vs. server redirection]
quote:

>
> What is the difference that users experience?



Instead of seeing a blank page with "We have moved", they just get the new
page. From the user's perspective, it is much like a meta refresh with a 0
time value. Except their back button isn't broken. I guess the downfall is
that they may not realise they are being redirected, and so may not update
their bookmarks (if they have it bookmarked).

For an example[1], go to http://stone.thecoreworlds.net/www/frames/
(redirects to http://dorward.me.uk/www/frames/).

HTH

[1] Sorry, David - just happened to remember that one. :-)

--
Mark Parnell
http://www.clarkecomputers.com.au
Bonnie Granat

2003-12-03, 7:25 pm


"Mark Parnell" <webmaster@clarkecomputers.com.au> wrote in message
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quote:

> Sometime around Sun, 2 Nov 2003 21:40:51 -0500, Bonnie Granat is reported
> to have stated:
> [Meta refresh vs. server redirection]
>
> Instead of seeing a blank page with "We have moved", they just get the new
> page. From the user's perspective, it is much like a meta refresh with a 0
> time value. Except their back button isn't broken. I guess the downfall is
> that they may not realise they are being redirected, and so may not update
> their bookmarks (if they have it bookmarked).
>
> For an example[1], go to http://stone.thecoreworlds.net/www/frames/
> (redirects to http://dorward.me.uk/www/frames/).
>



My ISP had put a zero time and I changed it to 5 and put the text in there,
just precisely to alert people that the site has moved. I think I may just
leave it. The old site is going to disappear on 12-31-03 or earlier, anyway.

Thanks, Mark.


--
Bonnie Granat
Granat Technical Editing and Writing
http://www.granatedit.com

David Dorward

2003-12-03, 7:25 pm

Mark Parnell wrote:
quote:

> For an example[1], go to http://stone.thecoreworlds.net/www/frames/
> (redirects to http://dorward.me.uk/www/frames/).



Actually... it doesn't. It redirects to http://david.us-lot.org/www/frames/
and /that/ redirects to the dorward.me.uk site. Isn't it fun spending 6
months developing a new site, then redirecting everything to the proper
domain, and then replacing the proper domain becuase .me.uk became 80%
cheaper?
quote:

> [1] Sorry, David - just happened to remember that one. :-)




--
David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/
Mark Parnell

2003-12-03, 7:25 pm

Sometime around Mon, 03 Nov 2003 07:30:14 +0000, David Dorward is reported
to have stated:
quote:

> Mark Parnell wrote:
>
>
> Actually... it doesn't. It redirects to http://david.us-lot.org/www/frames/
> and /that/ redirects to the dorward.me.uk site. Isn't it fun spending 6



I did know there was another layer of redirect in there, but it wasn't
really relevant to the discussion (and I couldn't remember the middle
domain). :-)
quote:

> months developing a new site, then redirecting everything to the proper
> domain, and then replacing the proper domain becuase .me.uk became 80%
> cheaper?
>



Not being in the UK, I haven't ever had that happen. ;-) But it sure sounds
like fun.

--
Mark Parnell
http://www.clarkecomputers.com.au
Bonnie Granat

2003-12-03, 7:25 pm


Don't ask me why, but I decided to do the hcaccess thing, after all. Seems
the bots were finding my new site with the redirect, but I could see where
the delay is annoying to people Why have two methods of doing the same
thing, anyway?
Just wondering. But I suppose it's a question very much line, "Why don't all
browsers implement the latest specifications?"
Why *don't* they? And why are more than 85% of my visitors using MSIE 6.0?

Bonnie

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