Microsoft Publisher - Trouble with uploading links to host

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Trouble with uploading links to host

orthsix

2007-08-20, 10:15 pm

I have created a website... www.adamsptsa.org and it is viewable on the web.
The trouble is that I have uploaded the pertinent files to the host's file
manager but when I go to click on a pdf file or try to access a resource
(i.e. copy of meeting minutes on the home page) nothing happens. What I am
told is that the files are listed as being on my hard drive, not accessible
on my hosts's file manager. I am not proficient with HTML and am very
confused and frustrated right now. Can anyone help me with the right steps
to allow the pdf files on my website to be accessed by people? I NEED HELP!
Thank you.

DavidF

2007-08-20, 10:15 pm

You need to upload your pdf files to your host and link to them there.
Reference: Including external files in a Publisher web :
http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/a...1/07/80561.aspx

DavidF

"orthsix" <orthsix@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:931A69D2-C0AF-4588-9768-94D63BA17C99@microsoft.com...
>I have created a website... www.adamsptsa.org and it is viewable on the
>web.
> The trouble is that I have uploaded the pertinent files to the host's file
> manager but when I go to click on a pdf file or try to access a resource
> (i.e. copy of meeting minutes on the home page) nothing happens. What I
> am
> told is that the files are listed as being on my hard drive, not
> accessible
> on my hosts's file manager. I am not proficient with HTML and am very
> confused and frustrated right now. Can anyone help me with the right
> steps
> to allow the pdf files on my website to be accessed by people? I NEED
> HELP!
> Thank you.

John G

2007-08-20, 10:15 pm

Some parts of this site have problems like overlapping fields and links
not working when viewed in Firefox.

--
John G.

"orthsix" <orthsix@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:931A69D2-C0AF-4588-9768-94D63BA17C99@microsoft.com...
>I have created a website... www.adamsptsa.org and it is viewable on the
>web.
> The trouble is that I have uploaded the pertinent files to the host's
> file
> manager but when I go to click on a pdf file or try to access a
> resource
> (i.e. copy of meeting minutes on the home page) nothing happens. What
> I am
> told is that the files are listed as being on my hard drive, not
> accessible
> on my hosts's file manager. I am not proficient with HTML and am very
> confused and frustrated right now. Can anyone help me with the right
> steps
> to allow the pdf files on my website to be accessed by people? I NEED
> HELP!
> Thank you.

orthsix

2007-08-20, 10:15 pm

I'm very confused. I need to make it known that I AM A COMPLETE NOVICE AT
THIS and not schooled at all. Some of this verbiage is very foreign to me.
After reading that link I'm even more confused. If I can get someone to walk
me through the steps once or twice, make my own "layman's terms" notes, then
I shoul be fine.

"DavidF" wrote:

> You need to upload your pdf files to your host and link to them there.
> Reference: Including external files in a Publisher web :
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/a...1/07/80561.aspx
>
> DavidF
>
> "orthsix" <orthsix@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:931A69D2-C0AF-4588-9768-94D63BA17C99@microsoft.com...
>
>
>

orthsix

2007-08-20, 10:15 pm

I am not sure I understand what you are referring to. What is Firefox? Like
I said to the previous person, I am a novice and not versed in a lot of
computer lingo. I am strictly Layman's terms literate.

Thank you for your help!

"John G" wrote:

> Some parts of this site have problems like overlapping fields and links
> not working when viewed in Firefox.
>
> --
> John G.
>
> "orthsix" <orthsix@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:931A69D2-C0AF-4588-9768-94D63BA17C99@microsoft.com...
>
>
>

John G

2007-08-20, 10:15 pm

Firefox is a Web browser just as Internet Explorer is and is the second
most popular and growing. Because many people use it, it is good to have
your web page work with FF as well as with IE.

--
John G.

"orthsix" <orthsix@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C661B55E-4D3A-4F69-A7C2-DDE33230B38F@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>I am not sure I understand what you are referring to. What is Firefox?
>Like
> I said to the previous person, I am a novice and not versed in a lot
> of
> computer lingo. I am strictly Layman's terms literate.
>
> Thank you for your help!
>
> "John G" wrote:
>

DavidF

2007-08-20, 10:15 pm

Few to no people are experienced at building websites when they choose to
use Publisher, so don't feel like the lone ranger. I was where you were when
I started, and sometimes I had to read things over and over again before I
understood it. Sometimes I had to set it aside and come back to
it...sometimes I never did understand it.

The basic parts of that article that you need to know is you need to upload
your pdf files to your website, and write the link to where you upload them.
Most of us find that having a separate folder for downloads on our website
is best, but you can upload them anywhere you want. If you are using FTP
uploading, then log on to your website and create a new folder called
"downloads". This folder will be at the same directory level as the
index.htm file and the index_files folder that Publisher produces. If you
aren't using FTP then log into your webhost and go to the control panel they
provide. You should find some form of file management tool that will allow
you to create the subfolder.

Then upload the pdf files you want available for download to that folder. Do
not use any spaces or special characters in your file name. In fact you
should probably use all lower case to keep things straight. So say that you
upload a pdf file for the April 2007 general meeting...it might be called
genmeet2-27-97.pdf or genmeet-april.pdf...whatever. Then assuming that you
upload that file to the downloads folder you would write the hyperlink to
that file this way:
http://www.adamsptsa.org/downloads/genmeet2-27-97.pdf
This will tell the browser to go to your site and look in the downloads
folder for the genmeet2-27-97.pdf file. And as the articles suggests, if the
viewer has the Acrobat reader plug-in installed then the file will download
and open in IE.

Its really not that hard once you think about it. You wrote your hyperlinks
to where the pdf files were on your hard drive, which makes it just a tad
difficult for someone viewing your website to access...you know? ;-)

As to FireFox, that is another popular browser that is second in use behind
Internet Explorer. When you design a website you need to design your pages
so that they load in as many browsers as possible, and FF and IE work
differently. Eventually, if you want to be serious about making your site as
viewable as possible, you will download and install the free FF, and then
preview your webpages in it to make sure they look ok.

In the short term you should concentrate on your pdf files and do several
other things. First go to Tools > Options > Web tab and uncheck "Rely on
VML..." and "Allow PNG....". You should also compress your images:
Reference: Compress graphics file sizes to create smaller Publisher Web
pages:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/p...1266301033.aspx

Rewrite the links to your pdf files, and then upload fresh html files to
your host.

Have fun...DavidF

"orthsix" <orthsix@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:943B78A2-8D5E-46D0-8227-11783583BFD2@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
> I'm very confused. I need to make it known that I AM A COMPLETE NOVICE AT
> THIS and not schooled at all. Some of this verbiage is very foreign to
> me.
> After reading that link I'm even more confused. If I can get someone to
> walk
> me through the steps once or twice, make my own "layman's terms" notes,
> then
> I shoul be fine.
>
> "DavidF" wrote:
>

orthsix

2007-08-21, 3:16 am

The links are not working in MSN explorer or IE as well. That is where my
problem is. I am not an HTML linguist and can't figure out why when I upload
the pdf files to the host file manager it can't be clicked on and viewed on
the browsers. I'm ready to pull my hair out!

"John G" wrote:

> Firefox is a Web browser just as Internet Explorer is and is the second
> most popular and growing. Because many people use it, it is good to have
> your web page work with FF as well as with IE.
>
> --
> John G.
>
> "orthsix" <orthsix@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C661B55E-4D3A-4F69-A7C2-DDE33230B38F@microsoft.com...
>
>
>

orthsix

2007-08-21, 3:16 am

What you said in those few paragraphs made more sense then everything I have
been reading for the past 3 days. I will try that right now. I did have
spaces in my file names, so that probably wasnt doing me any good.

Thank you so much!

"DavidF" wrote:

> Few to no people are experienced at building websites when they choose to
> use Publisher, so don't feel like the lone ranger. I was where you were when
> I started, and sometimes I had to read things over and over again before I
> understood it. Sometimes I had to set it aside and come back to
> it...sometimes I never did understand it.
>
> The basic parts of that article that you need to know is you need to upload
> your pdf files to your website, and write the link to where you upload them.
> Most of us find that having a separate folder for downloads on our website
> is best, but you can upload them anywhere you want. If you are using FTP
> uploading, then log on to your website and create a new folder called
> "downloads". This folder will be at the same directory level as the
> index.htm file and the index_files folder that Publisher produces. If you
> aren't using FTP then log into your webhost and go to the control panel they
> provide. You should find some form of file management tool that will allow
> you to create the subfolder.
>
> Then upload the pdf files you want available for download to that folder. Do
> not use any spaces or special characters in your file name. In fact you
> should probably use all lower case to keep things straight. So say that you
> upload a pdf file for the April 2007 general meeting...it might be called
> genmeet2-27-97.pdf or genmeet-april.pdf...whatever. Then assuming that you
> upload that file to the downloads folder you would write the hyperlink to
> that file this way:
> http://www.adamsptsa.org/downloads/genmeet2-27-97.pdf
> This will tell the browser to go to your site and look in the downloads
> folder for the genmeet2-27-97.pdf file. And as the articles suggests, if the
> viewer has the Acrobat reader plug-in installed then the file will download
> and open in IE.
>
> Its really not that hard once you think about it. You wrote your hyperlinks
> to where the pdf files were on your hard drive, which makes it just a tad
> difficult for someone viewing your website to access...you know? ;-)
>
> As to FireFox, that is another popular browser that is second in use behind
> Internet Explorer. When you design a website you need to design your pages
> so that they load in as many browsers as possible, and FF and IE work
> differently. Eventually, if you want to be serious about making your site as
> viewable as possible, you will download and install the free FF, and then
> preview your webpages in it to make sure they look ok.
>
> In the short term you should concentrate on your pdf files and do several
> other things. First go to Tools > Options > Web tab and uncheck "Rely on
> VML..." and "Allow PNG....". You should also compress your images:
> Reference: Compress graphics file sizes to create smaller Publisher Web
> pages:
> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/p...1266301033.aspx
>
> Rewrite the links to your pdf files, and then upload fresh html files to
> your host.
>
> Have fun...DavidF
>
> "orthsix" <orthsix@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:943B78A2-8D5E-46D0-8227-11783583BFD2@microsoft.com...
>
>
>

orthsix

2007-08-21, 3:16 am

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU! It worked! If only the tech support people I
had been working with had explained it like that, I could have done this on
Saturday. Feel free to take a look...www.adamsptsa.org. Now the newsletter
files are pretty big pdf files, but at least it is recognizing the command to
open it.

Thank you again!
Suzy

"orthsix" wrote:
[color=darkred]
> What you said in those few paragraphs made more sense then everything I have
> been reading for the past 3 days. I will try that right now. I did have
> spaces in my file names, so that probably wasnt doing me any good.
>
> Thank you so much!
>
> "DavidF" wrote:
>

Rob Giordano \(Crash\)

2007-08-21, 3:16 am

Mike Koewler

2007-08-21, 3:16 am

I'm thinking you need to get back to basics, starting first with reading
the manual and tutorials. Quite honestly (a horrible analogy follows):
you cannot run with the big dogs in the tall weeds if you don't know how
to bark.

Mike

orthsix wrote:
[color=darkred]
> The links are not working in MSN explorer or IE as well. That is where my
> problem is. I am not an HTML linguist and can't figure out why when I upload
> the pdf files to the host file manager it can't be clicked on and viewed on
> the browsers. I'm ready to pull my hair out!
>
> "John G" wrote:
>
>

orthsix

2007-08-21, 3:16 am

I "back-doored" the pdf files. I had to copy them from Publisher, paste them
into my Print-perfect, then save them as a pdf file....hence the
grainy/gritty quality. That's the least of my concerns right now. I dont'
know what I can do about the FF thing, but I'm pleased as punch they have
work-able links!

"Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:

> EVERY link I could find downloads fine in IE...the pdf's are not very good
> but they work.
>
> In Firefox I could only find two or three calendars that won't open. Most of
> the images and pdfs look caca in FF which is common with Publisher created
> webs that rely on VML graphics.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Rob Giordano
> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
>
>
>
>
>
> "orthsix" <orthsix@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:91FBD66C-4FDA-45F8-8A1E-4DCC504C89D1@microsoft.com...
> | The links are not working in MSN explorer or IE as well. That is where my
> | problem is. I am not an HTML linguist and can't figure out why when I
> upload
> | the pdf files to the host file manager it can't be clicked on and viewed
> on
> | the browsers. I'm ready to pull my hair out!
> |
> | "John G" wrote:
> |
> | > Firefox is a Web browser just as Internet Explorer is and is the second
> | > most popular and growing. Because many people use it, it is good to have
> | > your web page work with FF as well as with IE.
> | >
> | > --
> | > John G.
> | >
> | > "orthsix" <orthsix@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > news:C661B55E-4D3A-4F69-A7C2-DDE33230B38F@microsoft.com...
> | > >I am not sure I understand what you are referring to. What is Firefox?
> | > >Like
> | > > I said to the previous person, I am a novice and not versed in a lot
> | > > of
> | > > computer lingo. I am strictly Layman's terms literate.
> | > >
> | > > Thank you for your help!
> | > >
> | > > "John G" wrote:
> | > >
> | > >> Some parts of this site have problems like overlapping fields and
> | > >> links
> | > >> not working when viewed in Firefox.
> | > >>
> | > >> --
> | > >> John G.
> | > >>
> | > >> "orthsix" <orthsix@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > >> news:931A69D2-C0AF-4588-9768-94D63BA17C99@microsoft.com...
> | > >> >I have created a website... www.adamsptsa.org and it is viewable on
> | > >> >the
> | > >> >web.
> | > >> > The trouble is that I have uploaded the pertinent files to the
> | > >> > host's
> | > >> > file
> | > >> > manager but when I go to click on a pdf file or try to access a
> | > >> > resource
> | > >> > (i.e. copy of meeting minutes on the home page) nothing happens.
> | > >> > What
> | > >> > I am
> | > >> > told is that the files are listed as being on my hard drive, not
> | > >> > accessible
> | > >> > on my hosts's file manager. I am not proficient with HTML and am
> | > >> > very
> | > >> > confused and frustrated right now. Can anyone help me with the
> | > >> > right
> | > >> > steps
> | > >> > to allow the pdf files on my website to be accessed by people? I
> | > >> > NEED
> | > >> > HELP!
> | > >> > Thank you.
> | > >>
> | > >>
> | > >>
> | >
> | >
> | >
>
>
>

John G

2007-08-21, 3:16 am

With David's help you have got your links working in IE but mostly they
still do not work in FireFox.
You do not need to know any HTML coding to make a workable site with
Publisher, in fact Publisher is a tool for beginners to get a simple
site going. A lot of people will tell you important/business sites are
better built in more specialised programs such as DREAMWEAVER or MS
Expression.

On the subject of your PDF files.
They appear to be just PDFs of images of the pages rather than PDFs
properly converted from the original text and images by a PDF converter
(Acrobat Professional or the free PrimoPDF or others).
This has 2 problems 1. the text is not as good as it could be and 2. the
PDF file is huge and in fact too big for dialup users to download. I
realise you may not have access to the original files to convert.

--
John G.

"orthsix" <orthsix@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:91FBD66C-4FDA-45F8-8A1E-4DCC504C89D1@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
> The links are not working in MSN explorer or IE as well. That is
> where my
> problem is. I am not an HTML linguist and can't figure out why when I
> upload
> the pdf files to the host file manager it can't be clicked on and
> viewed on
> the browsers. I'm ready to pull my hair out!
>
> "John G" wrote:
>

orthsix

2007-08-21, 6:15 am

I created the origianl files in Publisher, then copied and pasted them in to
my Print Perfect Platinum. That is the only software I have that allows me
to save as a PDF file. Is there a free download that allows Publisher files
to be converted to PDF?

"John G" wrote:

> With David's help you have got your links working in IE but mostly they
> still do not work in FireFox.
> You do not need to know any HTML coding to make a workable site with
> Publisher, in fact Publisher is a tool for beginners to get a simple
> site going. A lot of people will tell you important/business sites are
> better built in more specialised programs such as DREAMWEAVER or MS
> Expression.
>
> On the subject of your PDF files.
> They appear to be just PDFs of images of the pages rather than PDFs
> properly converted from the original text and images by a PDF converter
> (Acrobat Professional or the free PrimoPDF or others).
> This has 2 problems 1. the text is not as good as it could be and 2. the
> PDF file is huge and in fact too big for dialup users to download. I
> realise you may not have access to the original files to convert.
>
> --
> John G.
>
> "orthsix" <orthsix@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:91FBD66C-4FDA-45F8-8A1E-4DCC504C89D1@microsoft.com...
>
>
>

John G

2007-08-21, 6:15 am

Primopdf ( http://www.primopdf.com/ )instals as a printer and creates
PDF files just like Adobe would.
--
John G.

"orthsix" <orthsix@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A6D3185D-025A-4615-ADDB-0D8E5B096ABE@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>I created the origianl files in Publisher, then copied and pasted them
>in to
> my Print Perfect Platinum. That is the only software I have that
> allows me
> to save as a PDF file. Is there a free download that allows Publisher
> files
> to be converted to PDF?
>
> "John G" wrote:
>

orthsix

2007-08-21, 6:16 pm

Thank you for the referral. Apparently my machine is a 32 bit machine and
this download requires 64, so it won't work. I'll continue to look and go
to Office Depot to see if there are any programs for pdf conversion that
include Publisher.

Have a great day!

"John G" wrote:

> Primopdf ( http://www.primopdf.com/ )instals as a printer and creates
> PDF files just like Adobe would.
> --
> John G.
>
> "orthsix" <orthsix@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:A6D3185D-025A-4615-ADDB-0D8E5B096ABE@microsoft.com...
>
>
>

DavidF

2007-08-21, 10:16 pm

Thanks for the feedback...tis appreciated. A couple more things though...

First of all, primopdf offers different versions of the software. The 64 bit
is just one of them. Go back to the site and download from the first page
and you will get the 32 bit. If you use primopdf you have the option of
creating a pdf for print but also on-line viewing which is a lower
resolution, and thus much smaller file size. You can drop a textual based
pdf from your 372 kb size to around 50 kb, and the people that download it
will appreciate the faster download.

Secondly, I suspect that you have put "washington state pta" graphic or
whatever it is in the background of your page on a master page instead of
inserting as a background image. The use of master pages in web documents
causes problems and should only be used for print docs. I would recommend
that if you are indeed putting it or anything else on the master page, then
don't and change your layout. If you want more info about the background
image, texture or color, than go to Help and type in "Background".

DavidF

"orthsix" <orthsix@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B7BB4E6A-C10E-4877-B025-69D095AB2F43@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
> THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU! It worked! If only the tech support
> people I
> had been working with had explained it like that, I could have done this
> on
> Saturday. Feel free to take a look...www.adamsptsa.org. Now the
> newsletter
> files are pretty big pdf files, but at least it is recognizing the command
> to
> open it.
>
> Thank you again!
> Suzy
>
> "orthsix" wrote:
>

orthsix

2007-08-21, 10:16 pm

Thanks again! Got the Primopdf and downloaded it. I'll get the files
changed accordingly. Ahhhhhh I feel so much better now!

You rock!

"DavidF" wrote:

> Thanks for the feedback...tis appreciated. A couple more things though...
>
> First of all, primopdf offers different versions of the software. The 64 bit
> is just one of them. Go back to the site and download from the first page
> and you will get the 32 bit. If you use primopdf you have the option of
> creating a pdf for print but also on-line viewing which is a lower
> resolution, and thus much smaller file size. You can drop a textual based
> pdf from your 372 kb size to around 50 kb, and the people that download it
> will appreciate the faster download.
>
> Secondly, I suspect that you have put "washington state pta" graphic or
> whatever it is in the background of your page on a master page instead of
> inserting as a background image. The use of master pages in web documents
> causes problems and should only be used for print docs. I would recommend
> that if you are indeed putting it or anything else on the master page, then
> don't and change your layout. If you want more info about the background
> image, texture or color, than go to Help and type in "Background".
>
> DavidF
>
> "orthsix" <orthsix@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B7BB4E6A-C10E-4877-B025-69D095AB2F43@microsoft.com...
>
>
>

John G

2007-08-21, 10:16 pm

That is not true.
Primopdf 3.1 runs on Win 98/NT/200/XP/Vista on 32 bit machines.
There is a 64 bit version available from the developer.
I have been using it for ages on a 32bit machine that is now 6 yers old
running XP.

--
John G.

"orthsix" <orthsix@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:44C6FBC5-2131-4563-BE1B-C7A28F3396A1@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
> Thank you for the referral. Apparently my machine is a 32 bit machine
> and
> this download requires 64, so it won't work. I'll continue to look
> and go
> to Office Depot to see if there are any programs for pdf conversion
> that
> include Publisher.
>
> Have a great day!
>
> "John G" wrote:
>

Rob Giordano \(Crash\)

2007-08-22, 3:17 am