Microsoft Publisher - Subsidiary pages in Pub 2000

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Subsidiary pages in Pub 2000

karen3b

2007-05-08, 10:15 pm

I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong. I was able to get a subsidiary page
to function well on another website I built. This time I cannot make it
work. The website is AboutFaceSkinCarePlace.com Pg 6 is Products; right now
I have a subsidiary page "About Sunscreen" [soon I'll have 2 subsidiary pages
under Products]. When I click on "About Karen" -- the next topic page,
"About Sunscreen" comes up. I've tried hyperlinking by specific page (pg 8),
skipping over About Sunscreen (physically page 7), to get to "About Karen" &
that doesn't work. I've tried hyperlinking via "next page" -- and that
doesn't work. What am I missing?
--
karen3b

DavidF

2007-05-09, 6:16 pm

You have the "about karen" link written to to go to
http://aboutfaceskincareplace.com/page9.html and page 9 is you directions
page. About karen is page 8, so the link would be
http://aboutfaceskincareplace.com/page8.html

You also have the Directions link written incorrectly, pointing to page 10.
Tools is page 10, not page 8 as you have written it.

Just change you link to the correct page, and you should be good to go.

DavidF

"karen3b" <karen3b@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong. I was able to get a subsidiary
>page
> to function well on another website I built. This time I cannot make it
> work. The website is AboutFaceSkinCarePlace.com Pg 6 is Products; right
> now
> I have a subsidiary page "About Sunscreen" [soon I'll have 2 subsidiary
> pages
> under Products]. When I click on "About Karen" -- the next topic page,
> "About Sunscreen" comes up. I've tried hyperlinking by specific page (pg
> 8),
> skipping over About Sunscreen (physically page 7), to get to "About Karen"
> &
> that doesn't work. I've tried hyperlinking via "next page" -- and that
> doesn't work. What am I missing?
> --
> karen3b

karen3b

2007-05-09, 6:16 pm

Hi, DavidF ~
No, I just triple-checked.
On the MENU (a smart object -- and I've double-checked that it is a smart
object and all hyperlinks are consistent throughout the pages), starting with
Products (pg6): from hyperlink on Products> About Sunscreen is pg 7 (although
now that I've put a hyperlink on the page title of About Sunscreen, it is now
on the menu), Tools = pg8 (but comes up as if pg 9 = About Karen), About
Karen = pg 9 (but comes up as if Directions (=pg10).
When using the "next" and "previous" hyperlinks: Directions "previous" goes
to Sunscreen (and it should go to Karen.
The Menu, starting with Products (pg 6)
now has Sunscreen (pg7)
About Karen (pg9)
Directions (pg10)
Tools (pg 8) is not on Menu now.
All these pg numbers are also the physical order of the pages.
I can take the hyperlink off the title of About Sunscreens (which wasn't
there when I first asked my question)....
Did my explanation make any sense?
Karen3b

--
karen3b

"DavidF" wrote:

> You have the "about karen" link written to to go to
> http://aboutfaceskincareplace.com/page9.html and page 9 is you directions
> page. About karen is page 8, so the link would be
> http://aboutfaceskincareplace.com/page8.html
>
> You also have the Directions link written incorrectly, pointing to page 10.
> Tools is page 10, not page 8 as you have written it.
>
> Just change you link to the correct page, and you should be good to go.
>
> DavidF
>
> "karen3b" <karen3b@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F011867C-0A40-4A5A-A84F-1E03905A307E@microsoft.com...
>
>
>

Mike Koewler

2007-05-09, 6:16 pm

Karen,

Not to me, but then I'm not David and I don't know Pub all that well.
but I'm half decent at coding, at I can assure you that if you learn to
use absolute links, such as sunscreens.htm or about_karen.htm instead of
Page 7 in my site" or 'next' or 'previous,'you will save yourself a
lot of grief now and in the future. It may seem a tad harder now, but
after a while, it becomes second nature.

Mike

karen3b wrote:
> Hi, DavidF ~
> No, I just triple-checked.
> On the MENU (a smart object -- and I've double-checked that it is a smart
> object and all hyperlinks are consistent throughout the pages), starting with
> Products (pg6): from hyperlink on Products> About Sunscreen is pg 7 (although
> now that I've put a hyperlink on the page title of About Sunscreen, it is now
> on the menu), Tools = pg8 (but comes up as if pg 9 = About Karen), About
> Karen = pg 9 (but comes up as if Directions (=pg10).
> When using the "next" and "previous" hyperlinks: Directions "previous" goes
> to Sunscreen (and it should go to Karen.
> The Menu, starting with Products (pg 6)
> now has Sunscreen (pg7)
> About Karen (pg9)
> Directions (pg10)
> Tools (pg 8) is not on Menu now.
> All these pg numbers are also the physical order of the pages.
> I can take the hyperlink off the title of About Sunscreens (which wasn't
> there when I first asked my question)....
> Did my explanation make any sense?
> Karen3b
>

DavidF

2007-05-09, 10:16 pm

After reading it three times, no, it doesn't make sense to me.

Let's try this one step at a time.

Did you originally create a 10 page Publisher document and thus a 10 page
website, and let the menu/navbar wizard create the menu? Then did you go
back and insert the About Sunscreen page into your Pub file after the
Products page, and before the About Karen page? In other words as page 7 of
your Publisher document? I ask this because the links from your menu/navbar
are correct up through the About Sunscreen page, and then are off by one
from that point on.

I am guessing that the problem you are having is that you did insert the
About Sunscreen page into your original 10 page site. When you did that you
created a problem with your menu. Publisher 2000 is limited to 10 pages in
the wizard built main menu. If you add pages to your Publisher document you
cannot add those pages to the main menu IF you want to use the wizard.

How many pages do you expect to have when you are done, including subpages?

Post back with answers to my questions, and we can go from there. You have a
number of options available to you to build a 10+ page site with Pub 2000.

DavidF

"karen3b" <karen3b@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A91A20E0-BB76-4B7E-AEB4-098F1E4ADCC3@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
> Hi, DavidF ~
> No, I just triple-checked.
> On the MENU (a smart object -- and I've double-checked that it is a smart
> object and all hyperlinks are consistent throughout the pages), starting
> with
> Products (pg6): from hyperlink on Products> About Sunscreen is pg 7
> (although
> now that I've put a hyperlink on the page title of About Sunscreen, it is
> now
> on the menu), Tools = pg8 (but comes up as if pg 9 = About Karen), About
> Karen = pg 9 (but comes up as if Directions (=pg10).
> When using the "next" and "previous" hyperlinks: Directions "previous"
> goes
> to Sunscreen (and it should go to Karen.
> The Menu, starting with Products (pg 6)
> now has Sunscreen (pg7)
> About Karen (pg9)
> Directions (pg10)
> Tools (pg 8) is not on Menu now.
> All these pg numbers are also the physical order of the pages.
> I can take the hyperlink off the title of About Sunscreens (which wasn't
> there when I first asked my question)....
> Did my explanation make any sense?
> Karen3b
>
> --
> karen3b
>
>
> "DavidF" wrote:
>

karen3b

2007-05-09, 10:16 pm

DavidF ~

Originally I created a 3-pg Pub doc and thus a 3-pg website -- and I
let the navbar wizard create the menu. Then I went back and inserted 9 more
pages. When I first inserted the 9 pages, they were not in the correct
physical order. I knew that Pub 2000 wouldn't take more than 10 pages on the
menu, and that I would have to have subsidiary pages. I've done that before
-- which is when I discovered that the pages need to be in correct physical
order (although I initially thought that I should be able to direct, via
hyperlink, to the "next" page that I wanted the viewed to see, regardless of
the physical order. So I put all the pages in order, and I removed one page
that I don't have content for yet. Thus, I ended up with a total of 11
pages, all in the correct physical order. I put a hyperlink on pg 6
(Products) to direct folks to Sunscreen sub page (#7). Eventually I want to
put at least one more sub page, linked to pg 6.
Under Directions (main pg 10), I want to have hyperlinks to forms that
clients can download, fill out, and bring with them. I will also probably
write some "subject" pages -- such as Rosacea, or other skin conditions. I'm
guessing the website will end up w/ about 20-25 pages.

Mike Koewler says I should learn to use absolute links. I'll gladly do
that, if I can find info on how to do so. If you can't tell, I haven't had
any training or mentoring in this website building business.

Meanwhile, back at AFS website. I removed the hyperlink to Sunscreens,
and my pages are thus:
Main Page (MP) 1
MP 2
MP 3
MP 4
MP 5
MP 6 ----with link to
Sub Page (SP) 7 (which has a "next" and a "previous" link to
the MPs
before and after it
MP 8
MP 9
MP 10
MP 11 (on the Menu, this is page 10).

When I created the links, I linked to the specific page numbers. I
tried doing the "previous" and "next", but thought that the specific numbers
had a better chance of routing around SP 7. But going in descending order,
there's no routing around SP7.

I hope that makes better sense.

And if absolute links would be better in the long run, I'll learn 'em.
I'm going to have to add sub pages to another website
(www.counselingservicesinc.com) eventually, so I might as well!

Thanks mucho.

--
karen3b

"DavidF" wrote:

> After reading it three times, no, it doesn't make sense to me.
>
> Let's try this one step at a time.
>
> Did you originally create a 10 page Publisher document and thus a 10 page
> website, and let the menu/navbar wizard create the menu? Then did you go
> back and insert the About Sunscreen page into your Pub file after the
> Products page, and before the About Karen page? In other words as page 7 of
> your Publisher document? I ask this because the links from your menu/navbar
> are correct up through the About Sunscreen page, and then are off by one
> from that point on.
>
> I am guessing that the problem you are having is that you did insert the
> About Sunscreen page into your original 10 page site. When you did that you
> created a problem with your menu. Publisher 2000 is limited to 10 pages in
> the wizard built main menu. If you add pages to your Publisher document you
> cannot add those pages to the main menu IF you want to use the wizard.
>
> How many pages do you expect to have when you are done, including subpages?
>
> Post back with answers to my questions, and we can go from there. You have a
> number of options available to you to build a 10+ page site with Pub 2000.
>
> DavidF
>
> "karen3b" <karen3b@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:A91A20E0-BB76-4B7E-AEB4-098F1E4ADCC3@microsoft.com...
>
>
>

Mike Koewler

2007-05-10, 3:15 am

Karen,

Absolute links are a piece of cake. Okay, you have a domain called
karen.com. Pub publishes all the pages except for the index.htm(l) file
to a folder called /index_files

You add a page. You name it page2.htm. You create a link to it. The
absolute link would be http://www.karen.com/index_files/page2.htm

My other recommendation is to not use Nav Bars. Yes, they are in vogue,
but so was Flash. Spiders don't seem to pick up any sub-menu items, plus
Pub seems to have a harder time creating html that will be read by all
browsers.

Mike

karen3b wrote:
> DavidF ~
>
> Originally I created a 3-pg Pub doc and thus a 3-pg website -- and I
> let the navbar wizard create the menu. Then I went back and inserted 9 more
> pages. When I first inserted the 9 pages, they were not in the correct
> physical order. I knew that Pub 2000 wouldn't take more than 10 pages on the
> menu, and that I would have to have subsidiary pages. I've done that before
> -- which is when I discovered that the pages need to be in correct physical
> order (although I initially thought that I should be able to direct, via
> hyperlink, to the "next" page that I wanted the viewed to see, regardless of
> the physical order. So I put all the pages in order, and I removed one page
> that I don't have content for yet. Thus, I ended up with a total of 11
> pages, all in the correct physical order. I put a hyperlink on pg 6
> (Products) to direct folks to Sunscreen sub page (#7). Eventually I want to
> put at least one more sub page, linked to pg 6.
> Under Directions (main pg 10), I want to have hyperlinks to forms that
> clients can download, fill out, and bring with them. I will also probably
> write some "subject" pages -- such as Rosacea, or other skin conditions. I'm
> guessing the website will end up w/ about 20-25 pages.
>
> Mike Koewler says I should learn to use absolute links. I'll gladly do
> that, if I can find info on how to do so. If you can't tell, I haven't had
> any training or mentoring in this website building business.
>
> Meanwhile, back at AFS website. I removed the hyperlink to Sunscreens,
> and my pages are thus:
> Main Page (MP) 1
> MP 2
> MP 3
> MP 4
> MP 5
> MP 6 ----with link to
> Sub Page (SP) 7 (which has a "next" and a "previous" link to
> the MPs
> before and after it
> MP 8
> MP 9
> MP 10
> MP 11 (on the Menu, this is page 10).
>
> When I created the links, I linked to the specific page numbers. I
> tried doing the "previous" and "next", but thought that the specific numbers
> had a better chance of routing around SP 7. But going in descending order,
> there's no routing around SP7.
>
> I hope that makes better sense.
>
> And if absolute links would be better in the long run, I'll learn 'em.
> I'm going to have to add sub pages to another website
> (www.counselingservicesinc.com) eventually, so I might as well!
>
> Thanks mucho.
>
>
>

DavidF

2007-05-10, 6:15 pm

Karen3b,

I will give you a solution later today. I just don't have time right now.
Stay tuned.

DavidF

"karen3b" <karen3b@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2FB82668-0E28-4440-82CC-793FF1DFC5C3@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
> DavidF ~
>
> Originally I created a 3-pg Pub doc and thus a 3-pg website -- and I
> let the navbar wizard create the menu. Then I went back and inserted 9
> more
> pages. When I first inserted the 9 pages, they were not in the correct
> physical order. I knew that Pub 2000 wouldn't take more than 10 pages on
> the
> menu, and that I would have to have subsidiary pages. I've done that
> before
> -- which is when I discovered that the pages need to be in correct
> physical
> order (although I initially thought that I should be able to direct, via
> hyperlink, to the "next" page that I wanted the viewed to see, regardless
> of
> the physical order. So I put all the pages in order, and I removed one
> page
> that I don't have content for yet. Thus, I ended up with a total of 11
> pages, all in the correct physical order. I put a hyperlink on pg 6
> (Products) to direct folks to Sunscreen sub page (#7). Eventually I want
> to
> put at least one more sub page, linked to pg 6.
> Under Directions (main pg 10), I want to have hyperlinks to forms
> that
> clients can download, fill out, and bring with them. I will also probably
> write some "subject" pages -- such as Rosacea, or other skin conditions.
> I'm
> guessing the website will end up w/ about 20-25 pages.
>
> Mike Koewler says I should learn to use absolute links. I'll gladly do
> that, if I can find info on how to do so. If you can't tell, I haven't
> had
> any training or mentoring in this website building business.
>
> Meanwhile, back at AFS website. I removed the hyperlink to
> Sunscreens,
> and my pages are thus:
> Main Page (MP) 1
> MP 2
> MP 3
> MP 4
> MP 5
> MP 6 ----with link to
> Sub Page (SP) 7 (which has a "next" and a "previous" link to
> the MPs
> before and after it
> MP 8
> MP 9
> MP 10
> MP 11 (on the Menu, this is page 10).
>
> When I created the links, I linked to the specific page numbers. I
> tried doing the "previous" and "next", but thought that the specific
> numbers
> had a better chance of routing around SP 7. But going in descending
> order,
> there's no routing around SP7.
>
> I hope that makes better sense.
>
> And if absolute links would be better in the long run, I'll learn 'em.
> I'm going to have to add sub pages to another website
> (www.counselingservicesinc.com) eventually, so I might as well!
>
> Thanks mucho.
>
>
>
> --
> karen3b
>
>
> "DavidF" wrote:
>

DavidF

2007-05-10, 6:15 pm

Mike,

Pub 2000 has a different html coding engine than Pub 2003, and the navbar
wizard actually writes absolute links and produces code and navbars that are
cross browser compatible and spider friendly. More later...

DavidF

"Mike Koewler" <wordwiz@fuse.net> wrote in message
news:7366e$464292cf$42a1f80a$24999@FUSE.NET...[color=darkred]
> Karen,
>
> Absolute links are a piece of cake. Okay, you have a domain called
> karen.com. Pub publishes all the pages except for the index.htm(l) file to
> a folder called /index_files
>
> You add a page. You name it page2.htm. You create a link to it. The
> absolute link would be http://www.karen.com/index_files/page2.htm
>
> My other recommendation is to not use Nav Bars. Yes, they are in vogue,
> but so was Flash. Spiders don't seem to pick up any sub-menu items, plus
> Pub seems to have a harder time creating html that will be read by all
> browsers.
>
> Mike
>
> karen3b wrote:

karen3b

2007-05-10, 6:15 pm

DavidF ~
Understand. I'm crunched until this afternoon. I recounted my pages -- I
only have 10 pages, so as a temp measure I could make the one sub page a main
page.

Good to know about the absolute links and Pub 2000.

Thanks, Karen
--
karen3b

"DavidF" wrote:

> Karen3b,
>
> I will give you a solution later today. I just don't have time right now.
> Stay tuned.
>
> DavidF
>
> "karen3b" <karen3b@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:2FB82668-0E28-4440-82CC-793FF1DFC5C3@microsoft.com...
>
>
>

DavidF

2007-05-10, 6:15 pm

karen3b,

Alright, let's see if we can't get you straightened out. First of all it
really does not matter what order your pages are in. Websites are not
linear. However, it can be helpful if you do have them in order, and once
you get your navbar fixed, you don't want to insert additional pages in
front of or behind those that are contained in your navbar. It will mess up
your links.

With that said, I would first get the 9 pages you want on your navbar in
order. Some if not most of your problems were a result of you inserting the
Sunscreen page after the products page. So first of all, do a Save As of
your Publisher file to back up your original file in case something weird
happens.

Then with that new copy of your Pub file, go to page 9. Then go to Insert >
Page and on the dialog box uncheck "Add Hyperlink to Web navbar". Then click
on More Options... On this dialog box, check "after current page",
"duplicate all objects on page" and select page 7, assuming that is where
the Sunscreens page is located currently in your document. And again uncheck
"Add Hyperlink to Web navbar". Click OK and you should now have a 10th page
that duplicates everything on the Sunscreen page on page 7. If so, go back
and delete page 7. This should leave the first 9 pages the ones that you
want on the navbar, and in the order you would like to see them in on the
navbar. If not, you can use the technique that you just used to move the
Sunscreen page, to move the other pages around.

Now go to page 2 > File > Web Properties > Page tab and uncheck the "Add
hyperlink to Web navigation bar", OK. That link should disappear from your
navbar. Then go through pages 3 through 9, and do the same thing. you should
be left with just the home page button on your navbar.

Now go back to page 2, File > Web Properties > Page tab and this time check
the "Add hyperlink to Web navigation bar". But before you click ok, make
sure the Title is what you want it to say. Click ok and you should have a
second navbar button that shows a link to page 2. Go to page 3 and repeat
through page 9. When you are done, you should have a new navbar, and when
you hover over the links, it should show a link to the correct page.You can
do a web page preview to confirm that the links work.

Now go to the Sunscreen page...page 10, and if there is a navbar on that
page, delete it. Go back to one of the first 9 pages and copy the new navbar
and paste it on the Sunscreens page.

Now go back to your Products page, assuming that you still want to link to
the Sunscreens page from there. Insert your text or whatever that introduces
the Sunscreens page, and insert a hyperlink to the Sunscreens page. You can
do this in a number of way, but perhaps the easiest is to select the text
where you want to insert the hyperlink, right click > hyperlink. This opens
the Hyperlink dialog box. Check "Another page in your web site", and then
check Specific Page, and click the down arrow, and choose page 10. Click ok.
This will write an absolute link to page ten which is your sunscreen page.
Do a web page preview, and click the link to confirm.

You should now be ready to go. Delete all your old files off your server and
do a Save as a Web page, produce new html, and upload that to your server.

In the future if you want to add more subpages, then just go to the last
page of your Pub doc, and insert a page by duplicating everything on the
last page, but don't forget to uncheck "Add hyperlink to Web navigation
bar". Then go to File > Web Properties > Page Tab and change the Title to
the title of your new page. Then delete all the old content off the page
except for the navbar, and create your page. You will link to this page from
your main pages in the same way that you linked to the Sunscreens page.

As per the pdf files that you want to add, that is another subject. Get your
primary site fixed up, and post back when you are ready for those
instructions.

DavidF

"karen3b" <karen3b@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6271EDAE-5271-42FD-A2E9-698053DCA4AD@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
> DavidF ~
> Understand. I'm crunched until this afternoon. I recounted my pages -- I
> only have 10 pages, so as a temp measure I could make the one sub page a
> main
> page.
>
> Good to know about the absolute links and Pub 2000.
>
> Thanks, Karen
> --
> karen3b
>
>
> "DavidF" wrote:
>

Mike Koewler

2007-05-10, 10:16 pm

David,

That's so simple, a kindergarten should be able to do it. JUST KIDDING!
Wow, it's a good thing karen didn't have a 50 page site.

Mike

DavidF wrote:
> karen3b,
>
> Alright, let's see if we can't get you straightened out. First of all it
> really does not matter what order your pages are in. Websites are not
> linear. However, it can be helpful if you do have them in order, and once
> you get your navbar fixed, you don't want to insert additional pages in
> front of or behind those that are contained in your navbar. It will mess up
> your links.
>
> With that said, I would first get the 9 pages you want on your navbar in
> order. Some if not most of your problems were a result of you inserting the
> Sunscreen page after the products page. So first of all, do a Save As of
> your Publisher file to back up your original file in case something weird
> happens.
>
> Then with that new copy of your Pub file, go to page 9. Then go to Insert >
> Page and on the dialog box uncheck "Add Hyperlink to Web navbar". Then click
> on More Options... On this dialog box, check "after current page",
> "duplicate all objects on page" and select page 7, assuming that is where
> the Sunscreens page is located currently in your document. And again uncheck
> "Add Hyperlink to Web navbar". Click OK and you should now have a 10th page
> that duplicates everything on the Sunscreen page on page 7. If so, go back
> and delete page 7. This should leave the first 9 pages the ones that you
> want on the navbar, and in the order you would like to see them in on the
> navbar. If not, you can use the technique that you just used to move the
> Sunscreen page, to move the other pages around.
>
> Now go to page 2 > File > Web Properties > Page tab and uncheck the "Add
> hyperlink to Web navigation bar", OK. That link should disappear from your
> navbar. Then go through pages 3 through 9, and do the same thing. you should
> be left with just the home page button on your navbar.
>
> Now go back to page 2, File > Web Properties > Page tab and this time check
> the "Add hyperlink to Web navigation bar". But before you click ok, make
> sure the Title is what you want it to say. Click ok and you should have a
> second navbar button that shows a link to page 2. Go to page 3 and repeat
> through page 9. When you are done, you should have a new navbar, and when
> you hover over the links, it should show a link to the correct page.You can
> do a web page preview to confirm that the links work.
>
> Now go to the Sunscreen page...page 10, and if there is a navbar on that
> page, delete it. Go back to one of the first 9 pages and copy the new navbar
> and paste it on the Sunscreens page.
>
> Now go back to your Products page, assuming that you still want to link to
> the Sunscreens page from there. Insert your text or whatever that introduces
> the Sunscreens page, and insert a hyperlink to the Sunscreens page. You can
> do this in a number of way, but perhaps the easiest is to select the text
> where you want to insert the hyperlink, right click > hyperlink. This opens
> the Hyperlink dialog box. Check "Another page in your web site", and then
> check Specific Page, and click the down arrow, and choose page 10. Click ok.
> This will write an absolute link to page ten which is your sunscreen page.
> Do a web page preview, and click the link to confirm.
>
> You should now be ready to go. Delete all your old files off your server and
> do a Save as a Web page, produce new html, and upload that to your server.
>
> In the future if you want to add more subpages, then just go to the last
> page of your Pub doc, and insert a page by duplicating everything on the
> last page, but don't forget to uncheck "Add hyperlink to Web navigation
> bar". Then go to File > Web Properties > Page Tab and change the Title to
> the title of your new page. Then delete all the old content off the page
> except for the navbar, and create your page. You will link to this page from
> your main pages in the same way that you linked to the Sunscreens page.
>
> As per the pdf files that you want to add, that is another subject. Get your
> primary site fixed up, and post back when you are ready for those
> instructions.
>
> DavidF
>
>
> "karen3b" <karen3b@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:6271EDAE-5271-42FD-A2E9-698053DCA4AD@microsoft.com...
>
>
>

karen3b

2007-05-11, 6:17 am

DavidF,
With assurity and accuracy, I followed your instructions with
conviction. All the links are there and are accurate. The sub pages are
physically after the MPs (I didn't think the pages had to be linear -- thanks
for that confirmation). I even took the opportunity to add another SP --
after the MPs, and without a hyperlink on the menu. Worked beautifully.
Then I did a Web Preview -- and got the message that the language used
is not supported by my computer....?! It's English. Thought maybe it was
the WingDing I put in on a subpage (but I thought WingDings were okay).
Decided to run the Design Check, to determine if WingDings are or are not
translated clearly onto the web. The Design Check crashed Pub 2000. Many
times.
So then I thought that maybe it was WebDings that were okay. So I
replaced the WingDing with a circle (which shape is already part of my
website). Ran the Design Check -- until it crashed.
So then I decided to publish it to the web any-o-way.
But...I don't know how to delete the already-published version. I've
always overwritten when I've had updates or corrections (Dotster is hosting
my domains -- if that makes a difference).
So I decided to overwrite as I had before. The result was not pretty.
The web pages were distorted, scrambled, and Picasso-ish. I re-published the
original web pages.
I still have my lovely new webpages. Obvously I've messed up quite
thoroughly. But where, I know not. The menu is showing exactly what it
should show; the links are to exactly the right pages. I deleted the menu on
the SP, then copied the menu from the home page and pasted it to the SP with
ease. I did the same with the 2nd SP.
What, oh what did I do wrong?
karen3b
karen3b

"DavidF" wrote:
[color=darkred]
> karen3b,
>
> Alright, let's see if we can't get you straightened out. First of all it
> really does not matter what order your pages are in. Websites are not
> linear. However, it can be helpful if you do have them in order, and once
> you get your navbar fixed, you don't want to insert additional pages in
> front of or behind those that are contained in your navbar. It will mess up
> your links.
>
> With that said, I would first get the 9 pages you want on your navbar in
> order. Some if not most of your problems were a result of you inserting the
> Sunscreen page after the products page. So first of all, do a Save As of
> your Publisher file to back up your original file in case something weird
> happens.
>
> Then with that new copy of your Pub file, go to page 9. Then go to Insert >
> Page and on the dialog box uncheck "Add Hyperlink to Web navbar". Then click
> on More Options... On this dialog box, check "after current page",
> "duplicate all objects on page" and select page 7, assuming that is where
> the Sunscreens page is located currently in your document. And again uncheck
> "Add Hyperlink to Web navbar". Click OK and you should now have a 10th page
> that duplicates everything on the Sunscreen page on page 7. If so, go back
> and delete page 7. This should leave the first 9 pages the ones that you
> want on the navbar, and in the order you would like to see them in on the
> navbar. If not, you can use the technique that you just used to move the
> Sunscreen page, to move the other pages around.
>
> Now go to page 2 > File > Web Properties > Page tab and uncheck the "Add
> hyperlink to Web navigation bar", OK. That link should disappear from your
> navbar. Then go through pages 3 through 9, and do the same thing. you should
> be left with just the home page button on your navbar.
>
> Now go back to page 2, File > Web Properties > Page tab and this time check
> the "Add hyperlink to Web navigation bar". But before you click ok, make
> sure the Title is what you want it to say. Click ok and you should have a
> second navbar button that shows a link to page 2. Go to page 3 and repeat
> through page 9. When you are done, you should have a new navbar, and when
> you hover over the links, it should show a link to the correct page.You can
> do a web page preview to confirm that the links work.
>
> Now go to the Sunscreen page...page 10, and if there is a navbar on that
> page, delete it. Go back to one of the first 9 pages and copy the new navbar
> and paste it on the Sunscreens page.
>
> Now go back to your Products page, assuming that you still want to link to
> the Sunscreens page from there. Insert your text or whatever that introduces
> the Sunscreens page, and insert a hyperlink to the Sunscreens page. You can
> do this in a number of way, but perhaps the easiest is to select the text
> where you want to insert the hyperlink, right click > hyperlink. This opens
> the Hyperlink dialog box. Check "Another page in your web site", and then
> check Specific Page, and click the down arrow, and choose page 10. Click ok.
> This will write an absolute link to page ten which is your sunscreen page.
> Do a web page preview, and click the link to confirm.
>
> You should now be ready to go. Delete all your old files off your server and
> do a Save as a Web page, produce new html, and upload that to your server.
>
> In the future if you want to add more subpages, then just go to the last
> page of your Pub doc, and insert a page by duplicating everything on the
> last page, but don't forget to uncheck "Add hyperlink to Web navigation
> bar". Then go to File > Web Properties > Page Tab and change the Title to
> the title of your new page. Then delete all the old content off the page
> except for the navbar, and create your page. You will link to this page from
> your main pages in the same way that you linked to the Sunscreens page.
>
> As per the pdf files that you want to add, that is another subject. Get your
> primary site fixed up, and post back when you are ready for those
> instructions.
>
> DavidF
>
>
> "karen3b" <karen3b@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:6271EDAE-5271-42FD-A2E9-698053DCA4AD@microsoft.com...

DavidF

2007-05-11, 6:16 pm

Karen3b,

Well now, aren't you glad you made a backup file? ;-)

Changing the order of your original nine pages and rebuilding your navbar,
should not have created any problems. I use Wingdings in Pub 2000 sites
with no problem. If the only editing to the Pub file was in adding the 10th
page, I would look to that page for the problem. When you make changes in
your file, you should do web previews frequently during the process.

Some troubleshooting steps:

1. Open your Pub file. Go to File > Web Properties > Language. Switch from
Western European to Unicode (UTF-8)...or the other way around. Try a web
preview. If you still get the "language" error, write down the specific
error, and include it when you post back.

2. Do a web page preview again, but this time when the Web Page Preview
dialog comes up, choose to do the Current Page only for the home page,
instead of the whole Web site. Do you get the same error? If the home page
works in web preview, go to each other page, and especially page 10 and test
that page, etc. If you get the error on each page, then once again write
down the specific error message.

3. If you are able to preview each page individually, except for page 10,
then once again that points to the problem being there. Go to page 10, Edit
> Select all > group and drag all the content on the page off into the
scratch area. Try a full website preview again. If successful, study the
content on page 10 for the problem. Edit > Undo to move the content back
onto the page, or drag the content back on the page and ungroup. Look for a
design element overlapping the workspace and the scratch area. Or perhaps
deconstruct the page one design component at a time. Drag suspect design
elements off into the scratch area one by one, doing a web preview for that
page after removing each element. Did you have any other design elements in
the scratch area to begin with? If you do, move them away and to the side
scratch area.

If none of that helps, then post back with error message and your results.
Also if you did edit anything else, or make any other changes, describe
those.

DavidF

"karen3b" <karen3b@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:87A64ACD-8830-40FC-87FF-AC90B4CBF774@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
> DavidF,
> With assurity and accuracy, I followed your instructions with
> conviction. All the links are there and are accurate. The sub pages are
> physically after the MPs (I didn't think the pages had to be linear --
> thanks
> for that confirmation). I even took the opportunity to add another SP --
> after the MPs, and without a hyperlink on the menu. Worked beautifully.
> Then I did a Web Preview -- and got the message that the language used
> is not supported by my computer....?! It's English. Thought maybe it was
> the WingDing I put in on a subpage (but I thought WingDings were okay).
> Decided to run the Design Check, to determine if WingDings are or are not
> translated clearly onto the web. The Design Check crashed Pub 2000. Many
> times.
> So then I thought that maybe it was WebDings that were okay. So I
> replaced the WingDing with a circle (which shape is already part of my
> website). Ran the Design Check -- until it crashed.
> So then I decided to publish it to the web any-o-way.
> But...I don't know how to delete the already-published version. I've
> always overwritten when I've had updates or corrections (Dotster is
> hosting
> my domains -- if that makes a difference).
> So I decided to overwrite as I had before. The result was not pretty.
> The web pages were distorted, scrambled, and Picasso-ish. I re-published
> the
> original web pages.
> I still have my lovely new webpages. Obvously I've messed up quite
> thoroughly. But where, I know not. The menu is showing exactly what it
> should show; the links are to exactly the right pages. I deleted the menu
> on
> the SP, then copied the menu from the home page and pasted it to the SP
> with
> ease. I did the same with the 2nd SP.
> What, oh what did I do wrong?
> karen3b
> karen3b
>
>
> "DavidF" wrote:
>

karen3b

2007-05-14, 3:17 am

DavidF,
Yes, I am glad I made a backup file, per your instructions -- thanks!
Again, I followed your instructions -- which were immensely helpful.
1. Changing to Unicode from Western European language took care of most of
the problems on pg 6, 10 & 11. [No error code showed up after that change.]
2. Doing a Web Page Preview on ea of the pages showed/shows that pg 6
was/is only @ 99% -- although it loads up.
3. However, the wingding dots do not translate to dots on the web --
instead it is some design that I don't care for. Those are on pg 6, pg 10,
pg11.
4. I also did a Design check on pg 6 -- with no negative results.
5. Plus did the pull-the-page-apart routine on pg 6. Nothing
6. I published it anyway. It works. It isn't Picasso-ish. I don't like
the darn wingdings that are supposed to be dots. Oh, well. And pg 6 is
still @ 99%. Will that cause me problems down the road?

karen3b

"DavidF" wrote:
[color=darkred]
> Karen3b,
>
> Well now, aren't you glad you made a backup file? ;-)
>
> Changing the order of your original nine pages and rebuilding your navbar,
> should not have created any problems. I use Wingdings in Pub 2000 sites
> with no problem. If the only editing to the Pub file was in adding the 10th
> page, I would look to that page for the problem. When you make changes in
> your file, you should do web previews frequently during the process.
>
> Some troubleshooting steps:
>
> 1. Open your Pub file. Go to File > Web Properties > Language. Switch from
> Western European to Unicode (UTF-8)...or the other way around. Try a web
> preview. If you still get the "language" error, write down the specific
> error, and include it when you post back.
>
> 2. Do a web page preview again, but this time when the Web Page Preview
> dialog comes up, choose to do the Current Page only for the home page,
> instead of the whole Web site. Do you get the same error? If the home page
> works in web preview, go to each other page, and especially page 10 and test
> that page, etc. If you get the error on each page, then once again write
> down the specific error message.
>
> 3. If you are able to preview each page individually, except for page 10,
> then once again that points to the problem being there. Go to page 10, Edit
> scratch area. Try a full website preview again. If successful, study the
> content on page 10 for the problem. Edit > Undo to move the content back
> onto the page, or drag the content back on the page and ungroup. Look for a
> design element overlapping the workspace and the scratch area. Or perhaps
> deconstruct the page one design component at a time. Drag suspect design
> elements off into the scratch area one by one, doing a web preview for that
> page after removing each element. Did you have any other design elements in
> the scratch area to begin with? If you do, move them away and to the side
> scratch area.
>
> If none of that helps, then post back with error message and your results.
> Also if you did edit anything else, or make any other changes, describe
> those.
>
> DavidF
>
>
> "karen3b" <karen3b@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:87A64ACD-8830-40FC-87FF-AC90B4CBF774@microsoft.com...

DavidF

2007-05-14, 6:16 pm

Karen3b,

I have no idea what you mean that when you say page 6 is only 99%. It
appears to load just fine. http://aboutfaceskincareplace.com/page6.html

As per the wingding dots...you don't like them, then use something else. Try
the bullets in the symbol or webdings fonts, or...

DavidF

"karen3b" <karen3b@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:21006BB1-B873-4A56-A904-EE2956F663F4@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
> DavidF,
> Yes, I am glad I made a backup file, per your instructions -- thanks!
> Again, I followed your instructions -- which were immensely helpful.
> 1. Changing to Unicode from Western European language took care of most
> of
> the problems on pg 6, 10 & 11. [No error code showed up after that
> change.]
> 2. Doing a Web Page Preview on ea of the pages showed/shows that pg 6
> was/is only @ 99% -- although it loads up.
> 3. However, the wingding dots do not translate to dots on the web --
> instead it is some design that I don't care for. Those are on pg 6, pg
> 10,
> pg11.
> 4. I also did a Design check on pg 6 -- with no negative results.
> 5. Plus did the pull-the-page-apart routine on pg 6. Nothing
> 6. I published it anyway. It works. It isn't Picasso-ish. I don't like
> the darn wingdings that are supposed to be dots. Oh, well. And pg 6 is
> still @ 99%. Will that cause me problems down the road?
>
> karen3b
>
>
> "DavidF" wrote:
>

karen3b

2007-05-14, 6:16 pm

DavidF,
I guess I don't know how the Web Page Preview function works. Pg 6 only
gets to "99%" when I use the Web Page Preview option. And no matter which
WingDing I designate, the one you see is the only one that comes up (so a
triangle, a square, a dot, etc. all are published as the WingDing you see on
pgs 6, 10,& 11). Are those two facts related?

Much more importantly, do you know if this seeminly minor glitch will cause
more major problems down the road as I add more articles to the menu on pg 6?
If not, then I'll leave it alone -- gladly. Because the website is so very
much better, thanks to your instructions!
--
karen3b

"DavidF" wrote:
[color=darkred]
> Karen3b,
>
> I have no idea what you mean that when you say page 6 is only 99%. It
> appears to load just fine. http://aboutfaceskincareplace.com/page6.html
>
> As per the wingding dots...you don't like them, then use something else. Try
> the bullets in the symbol or webdings fonts, or...
>
> DavidF
>
> "karen3b" <karen3b@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:21006BB1-B873-4A56-A904-EE2956F663F4@microsoft.com...

DavidF

2007-05-14, 6:16 pm

karen3b,

I also don't know why you would not be able to preview the page, and yet
still be able to publish it. Perhaps it is because of the wingding issue???
Did you try removing the bullets and doing a webpage preview? Did you try
removing the bulleted list format from items you have bulleted in the middle
of the page. When things don't work in web format, it sometimes is that the
print format does not translate well to html.

As I said, if that dot/bullet doesn't work, then change the format and try a
Symbol or the Webdings font. Pub your cursor where you want the bullet >
Insert > Symbol and scroll down to see your options under the different
fonts.

Not knowing why the page won't preview, it is impossible to say if it will
affect the future...my crystal ball doesn't work that well. But it is an
issue you should resolve.

DavidF

"karen3b" <karen3b@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0C4EED59-3EC6-40CC-9C13-A8F03FCA1AD7@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
> DavidF,
> I guess I don't know how the Web Page Preview function works. Pg 6 only
> gets to "99%" when I use the Web Page Preview option. And no matter which
> WingDing I designate, the one you see is the only one that comes up (so a
> triangle, a square, a dot, etc. all are published as the WingDing you see
> on
> pgs 6, 10,& 11). Are those two facts related?
>
> Much more importantly, do you know if this seeminly minor glitch will
> cause
> more major problems down the road as I add more articles to the menu on pg
> 6?
> If not, then I'll leave it alone -- gladly. Because the website is so
> very
> much better, thanks to your instructions!
> --
> karen3b
>
>
> "DavidF" wrote:
>