Microsoft Publisher - Follow-up Note for DavidF and Mike

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Follow-up Note for DavidF and Mike

The Kat

2007-04-12, 3:16 am

The site is up and running.

The Kat

Rob Giordano $Crash$

2007-04-12, 3:16 am

But you ain't gonna tell us where? sheesh! Whaddya chicken? Give it up...we
wanna see.

"The Kat" <TheKat@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E9280E9F-1FEC-44BC-A9AF-EB1B6B1B5F90@microsoft.com...
| The site is up and running.
|
| The Kat

Mike Koewler

2007-04-12, 6:16 pm

Kat,

And your links don't work in Mozilla. :-( I also find the dark blue (?)
text on the black background hard to read, but the mouseover effect
makes it easier.

Mike

The Kat wrote:

> The site is up and running.
>
> The Kat

DavidF

2007-04-12, 6:16 pm

What's the URL Mike?

DavidF

"Mike Koewler" <wordwiz@fuse.net> wrote in message
news:9692b$461e20cc$453d95d5$9956@FUSE.NET...[color=darkred]
> Kat,
>
> And your links don't work in Mozilla. :-( I also find the dark blue (?)
> text on the black background hard to read, but the mouseover effect makes
> it easier.
>
> Mike
>
> The Kat wrote:
>

Mike Koewler

2007-04-12, 6:16 pm

http://www.2-lions.com/

I looked at the old messages to find it!

Mike

DavidF wrote:
> What's the URL Mike?
>
> DavidF
>
> "Mike Koewler" <wordwiz@fuse.net> wrote in message
> news:9692b$461e20cc$453d95d5$9956@FUSE.NET...
>
>
>
>

The Kat

2007-04-12, 6:16 pm

I see Mike keeps his old messages!

The site is pretty raw, but it's 2-Lions.com - it's the first site I've done
without a wizard. Thanks to you, Mike & DavidF it finally got posted.

"Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:

> But you ain't gonna tell us where? sheesh! Whaddya chicken? Give it up...we
> wanna see.
>
>
>
> "The Kat" <TheKat@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:E9280E9F-1FEC-44BC-A9AF-EB1B6B1B5F90@microsoft.com...
> | The site is up and running.
> |
> | The Kat
>
>
>

The Kat

2007-04-12, 6:16 pm

I thought all of you knew what it was!

David,, which links aren't working? I know the page to spot on another page
isn't up. Are NONE of the links working, even the HREFs?

I posted a query about using the image as a link - I'd like the photos on
the Home page to link to the individual sections. How long did it take to
load with all those pix?

As for the black background - nothing I did woulld change the color of the
links to a lighter shade. Is that because the page has the style squib at the
top? (I can't re-style mid-page!)

The interpage links and the thumbnail links are next. AND the shopping cart.
But I've got to catch up on work (the spiders will be upset) before I spend
the required hours for that.

Can you tell anything at all from the pictures there now? I've got a 18"
monitor at hi res. I've got to check in on the TV in the basement to see what
it looks like on that - a hi-res tv is low -es compared to a monitor. Did the
fancy text on the glass pages come up - I think I got all of them installed
as pictures.

Have fun tearing it apart. If you can't find some of the code, let me know.
You wrote most of it, cutting weeks off the development time!

MANY thanks to all of you.

The Kat

"Mike Koewler" wrote:

> http://www.2-lions.com/
>
> I looked at the old messages to find it!
>
> Mike
>
> DavidF wrote:
>

Rob Giordano $Crash$

2007-04-12, 10:16 pm

The Kat

2007-04-12, 10:16 pm

I had wondered about thatphoto security. Some of my colleagues use it, some
don't. Guess if anyone really wants those photos, they will get them! I'll
get rid of it (now where did I put that string of code...)

"The page is cranky" WHICH page? If it's the home page, I'm not surprised -
that's why I want to have a lo-res b/w come up first then let the color
overwrite it - but I don't know how.

Any suggestions on the word art? do it all in photo shop?

Suggestions, instructions and code snips welcome.

The Kat

"Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:

> Remove the no right click script...it does nothing to protect your images
> and pisses people off when they want to quickly bookmark your page....or
> look at your code.
>
> The page is cranky...doesn't load slow but it ain't fast.
>
> Word Art doesn't display well in browsers other than IE and even in IE I
> think it looks....well...like Word Art.
>
> Take a gander at your web with FF...see the jaggies?
>
> More later..
>
> "The Kat" <TheKat@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:78D8D95B-8843-4F9C-9EBB-73AC2FB9240C@microsoft.com...
> |I thought all of you knew what it was!
> |
> | David,, which links aren't working? I know the page to spot on another
> page
> | isn't up. Are NONE of the links working, even the HREFs?
> |
> | I posted a query about using the image as a link - I'd like the photos on
> | the Home page to link to the individual sections. How long did it take to
> | load with all those pix?
> |
> | As for the black background - nothing I did woulld change the color of the
> | links to a lighter shade. Is that because the page has the style squib at
> the
> | top? (I can't re-style mid-page!)
> |
> | The interpage links and the thumbnail links are next. AND the shopping
> cart.
> | But I've got to catch up on work (the spiders will be upset) before I
> spend
> | the required hours for that.
> |
> | Can you tell anything at all from the pictures there now? I've got a 18"
> | monitor at hi res. I've got to check in on the TV in the basement to see
> what
> | it looks like on that - a hi-res tv is low -es compared to a monitor. Did
> the
> | fancy text on the glass pages come up - I think I got all of them
> installed
> | as pictures.
> |
> | Have fun tearing it apart. If you can't find some of the code, let me
> know.
> | You wrote most of it, cutting weeks off the development time!
> |
> | MANY thanks to all of you.
> |
> | The Kat
> |
> |
> | "Mike Koewler" wrote:
> |
> | > http://www.2-lions.com/
> | >
> | > I looked at the old messages to find it!
> | >
> | > Mike
> | >
> | > DavidF wrote:
> | > > What's the URL Mike?
> | > >
> | > > DavidF
> | > >
> | > > "Mike Koewler" <wordwiz@fuse.net> wrote in message
> | > > news:9692b$461e20cc$453d95d5$9956@FUSE.NET...
> | > >
> | > >>Kat,
> | > >>
> | > >>And your links don't work in Mozilla. :-( I also find the dark blue
> (?)
> | > >>text on the black background hard to read, but the mouseover effect
> makes
> | > >>it easier.
> | > >>
> | > >>Mike
> | > >>
> | > >>The Kat wrote:
> | > >>
> | > >>
> | > >>>The site is up and running.
> | > >>>
> | > >>>The Kat
> | > >
> | > >
> | > >
> | >
>
>
>

The Kat

2007-04-12, 10:16 pm

Mike, which links aren't working: all links or the HREF menu links that lead
to another page? If the latter, they aren't there yet. I had to have the site
up to know the full address. (see query above this one)

The Kat

"Mike Koewler" wrote:

> Kat,
>
> And your links don't work in Mozilla. :-( I also find the dark blue (?)
> text on the black background hard to read, but the mouseover effect
> makes it easier.
>
> Mike
>
> The Kat wrote:
>
>

Rob Giordano $Crash$

2007-04-12, 10:16 pm

You can probably optimize the images more without any loss...try IrFanview
(freebie) optimize them before you put them in Pub.

There is no photo security...the simple fact is all images are already
downloaded to the viewer's machine in order to be viewd (peruse your temp
internet cache folder someday with an image viewer and you'll see). Also you
can just do a View | Source for the location of the file, or a PrntScrn then
paste into PS or any image editor...and you'll use this in a minute.

Word Art can be converted either by PrntScrn and then into image editor
cropped and saved as jpg or gif...better still is use a vector based
graphics program like Illustrator, XaraXtreme, MS Expression Designer
etc...then save as jpg or gif.

....discouraging word;;;;;; you're on the road to outgrowing Publisher webs
:-(

"The Kat" <TheKat@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0A71CF83-B54D-4CD0-BFDF-C2AB619EDFAC@microsoft.com...
|I had wondered about thatphoto security. Some of my colleagues use it, some
| don't. Guess if anyone really wants those photos, they will get them! I'll
| get rid of it (now where did I put that string of code...)
|
| "The page is cranky" WHICH page? If it's the home page, I'm not
surprised -
| that's why I want to have a lo-res b/w come up first then let the color
| overwrite it - but I don't know how.
|
| Any suggestions on the word art? do it all in photo shop?
|
| Suggestions, instructions and code snips welcome.
|
| The Kat
|
| "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
|
| > Remove the no right click script...it does nothing to protect your
images
| > and pisses people off when they want to quickly bookmark your page....or
| > look at your code.
| >
| > The page is cranky...doesn't load slow but it ain't fast.
| >
| > Word Art doesn't display well in browsers other than IE and even in IE I
| > think it looks....well...like Word Art.
| >
| > Take a gander at your web with FF...see the jaggies?
| >
| > More later..
| >
| > "The Kat" <TheKat@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > news:78D8D95B-8843-4F9C-9EBB-73AC2FB9240C@microsoft.com...
| > |I thought all of you knew what it was!
| > |
| > | David,, which links aren't working? I know the page to spot on another
| > page
| > | isn't up. Are NONE of the links working, even the HREFs?
| > |
| > | I posted a query about using the image as a link - I'd like the photos
on
| > | the Home page to link to the individual sections. How long did it take
to
| > | load with all those pix?
| > |
| > | As for the black background - nothing I did woulld change the color of
the
| > | links to a lighter shade. Is that because the page has the style squib
at
| > the
| > | top? (I can't re-style mid-page!)
| > |
| > | The interpage links and the thumbnail links are next. AND the shopping
| > cart.
| > | But I've got to catch up on work (the spiders will be upset) before I
| > spend
| > | the required hours for that.
| > |
| > | Can you tell anything at all from the pictures there now? I've got a
18"
| > | monitor at hi res. I've got to check in on the TV in the basement to
see
| > what
| > | it looks like on that - a hi-res tv is low -es compared to a monitor.
Did
| > the
| > | fancy text on the glass pages come up - I think I got all of them
| > installed
| > | as pictures.
| > |
| > | Have fun tearing it apart. If you can't find some of the code, let me
| > know.
| > | You wrote most of it, cutting weeks off the development time!
| > |
| > | MANY thanks to all of you.
| > |
| > | The Kat
| > |
| > |
| > | "Mike Koewler" wrote:
| > |
| > | > http://www.2-lions.com/
| > | >
| > | > I looked at the old messages to find it!
| > | >
| > | > Mike
| > | >
| > | > DavidF wrote:
| > | > > What's the URL Mike?
| > | > >
| > | > > DavidF
| > | > >
| > | > > "Mike Koewler" <wordwiz@fuse.net> wrote in message
| > | > > news:9692b$461e20cc$453d95d5$9956@FUSE.NET...
| > | > >
| > | > >>Kat,
| > | > >>
| > | > >>And your links don't work in Mozilla. :-( I also find the dark
blue
| > (?)
| > | > >>text on the black background hard to read, but the mouseover
effect
| > makes
| > | > >>it easier.
| > | > >>
| > | > >>Mike
| > | > >>
| > | > >>The Kat wrote:
| > | > >>
| > | > >>
| > | > >>>The site is up and running.
| > | > >>>
| > | > >>>The Kat
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | >
| >
| >
| >

DavidF

2007-04-13, 3:23 am

You really should download and install FF 2.0, and test your site on your
computer. You simply direct the html output from Publisher to your hard
drive, instead of your host's server. Then open the index.htm file with FF.

I believe the links that don't work that Mike referenced are your main
navbars at the top and bottom of your pages. In FF, these are converted to
an image, and the links are killed.

One of the advantages of using a dial-up modem, if there is any, is that I
can see the different image placeholders load along with the ALT tags. When
I watch your page load, it appears that your menu/navbar text frame is
overlapping images, which I believe results in the text box being converted
to an image in the code Publisher produces for non-IE browsers. To fix the
problem, adjust your layout so that nothing overlaps the navbar text box. If
you have installed FF, you can test this out on the home page, and try the
top navbar first. When you open the fresh index.htm file in FF, mouseover
the links and see if they work. If they don't, try to select the text in the
navbar...if you can't, then it is an image.

If you really don't want to make the time to download FF yet, then make the
changes to the top and bottom menu of your index.htm file, and upload it.
Post back when you want Mike or I to look at it. Don't waste a lot of time

DavidF

"The Kat" <TheKat@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:78D8D95B-8843-4F9C-9EBB-73AC2FB9240C@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>I thought all of you knew what it was!
>
> David,, which links aren't working? I know the page to spot on another
> page
> isn't up. Are NONE of the links working, even the HREFs?
>
> I posted a query about using the image as a link - I'd like the photos on
> the Home page to link to the individual sections. How long did it take to
> load with all those pix?
>
> As for the black background - nothing I did woulld change the color of the
> links to a lighter shade. Is that because the page has the style squib at
> the
> top? (I can't re-style mid-page!)
>
> The interpage links and the thumbnail links are next. AND the shopping
> cart.
> But I've got to catch up on work (the spiders will be upset) before I
> spend
> the required hours for that.
>
> Can you tell anything at all from the pictures there now? I've got a 18"
> monitor at hi res. I've got to check in on the TV in the basement to see
> what
> it looks like on that - a hi-res tv is low -es compared to a monitor. Did
> the
> fancy text on the glass pages come up - I think I got all of them
> installed
> as pictures.
>
> Have fun tearing it apart. If you can't find some of the code, let me
> know.
> You wrote most of it, cutting weeks off the development time!
>
> MANY thanks to all of you.
>
> The Kat
>
>
> "Mike Koewler" wrote:
>

DavidF

2007-04-13, 3:23 am

Unfortunately MSFT in their infinitive wisdom decided that users wanted
right click disabled by default in Publisher 2003. They also decided to not
make it optional. In spite of feedback to the contrary, this is unchanged in
Pub 2007.

DavidF

"Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in message
news:eYS$%23BXfHHA.2408@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> You can probably optimize the images more without any loss...try IrFanview
> (freebie) optimize them before you put them in Pub.
>
> There is no photo security...the simple fact is all images are already
> downloaded to the viewer's machine in order to be viewd (peruse your temp
> internet cache folder someday with an image viewer and you'll see). Also
> you
> can just do a View | Source for the location of the file, or a PrntScrn
> then
> paste into PS or any image editor...and you'll use this in a minute.
>
> Word Art can be converted either by PrntScrn and then into image editor
> cropped and saved as jpg or gif...better still is use a vector based
> graphics program like Illustrator, XaraXtreme, MS Expression Designer
> etc...then save as jpg or gif.
>
> ...discouraging word;;;;;; you're on the road to outgrowing Publisher webs
> :-(
>
>
>
> "The Kat" <TheKat@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0A71CF83-B54D-4CD0-BFDF-C2AB619EDFAC@microsoft.com...
> |I had wondered about thatphoto security. Some of my colleagues use it,
> some
> | don't. Guess if anyone really wants those photos, they will get them!
> I'll
> | get rid of it (now where did I put that string of code...)
> |
> | "The page is cranky" WHICH page? If it's the home page, I'm not
> surprised -
> | that's why I want to have a lo-res b/w come up first then let the color
> | overwrite it - but I don't know how.
> |
> | Any suggestions on the word art? do it all in photo shop?
> |
> | Suggestions, instructions and code snips welcome.
> |
> | The Kat
> |
> | "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
> |
> | > Remove the no right click script...it does nothing to protect your
> images
> | > and pisses people off when they want to quickly bookmark your
> page....or
> | > look at your code.
> | >
> | > The page is cranky...doesn't load slow but it ain't fast.
> | >
> | > Word Art doesn't display well in browsers other than IE and even in IE
> I
> | > think it looks....well...like Word Art.
> | >
> | > Take a gander at your web with FF...see the jaggies?
> | >
> | > More later..
> | >
> | > "The Kat" <TheKat@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > news:78D8D95B-8843-4F9C-9EBB-73AC2FB9240C@microsoft.com...
> | > |I thought all of you knew what it was!
> | > |
> | > | David,, which links aren't working? I know the page to spot on
> another
> | > page
> | > | isn't up. Are NONE of the links working, even the HREFs?
> | > |
> | > | I posted a query about using the image as a link - I'd like the
> photos
> on
> | > | the Home page to link to the individual sections. How long did it
> take
> to
> | > | load with all those pix?
> | > |
> | > | As for the black background - nothing I did woulld change the color
> of
> the
> | > | links to a lighter shade. Is that because the page has the style
> squib
> at
> | > the
> | > | top? (I can't re-style mid-page!)
> | > |
> | > | The interpage links and the thumbnail links are next. AND the
> shopping
> | > cart.
> | > | But I've got to catch up on work (the spiders will be upset) before
> I
> | > spend
> | > | the required hours for that.
> | > |
> | > | Can you tell anything at all from the pictures there now? I've got a
> 18"
> | > | monitor at hi res. I've got to check in on the TV in the basement to
> see
> | > what
> | > | it looks like on that - a hi-res tv is low -es compared to a
> monitor.
> Did
> | > the
> | > | fancy text on the glass pages come up - I think I got all of them
> | > installed
> | > | as pictures.
> | > |
> | > | Have fun tearing it apart. If you can't find some of the code, let
> me
> | > know.
> | > | You wrote most of it, cutting weeks off the development time!
> | > |
> | > | MANY thanks to all of you.
> | > |
> | > | The Kat
> | > |
> | > |
> | > | "Mike Koewler" wrote:
> | > |
> | > | > http://www.2-lions.com/
> | > | >
> | > | > I looked at the old messages to find it!
> | > | >
> | > | > Mike
> | > | >
> | > | > DavidF wrote:
> | > | > > What's the URL Mike?
> | > | > >
> | > | > > DavidF
> | > | > >
> | > | > > "Mike Koewler" <wordwiz@fuse.net> wrote in message
> | > | > > news:9692b$461e20cc$453d95d5$9956@FUSE.NET...
> | > | > >
> | > | > >>Kat,
> | > | > >>
> | > | > >>And your links don't work in Mozilla. :-( I also find the dark
> blue
> | > (?)
> | > | > >>text on the black background hard to read, but the mouseover
> effect
> | > makes
> | > | > >>it easier.
> | > | > >>
> | > | > >>Mike
> | > | > >>
> | > | > >>The Kat wrote:
> | > | > >>
> | > | > >>
> | > | > >>>The site is up and running.
> | > | > >>>
> | > | > >>>The Kat
> | > | > >
> | > | > >
> | > | > >
> | > | >
> | >
> | >
> | >
>
>

Mike Koewler

2007-04-13, 3:23 am

Kat,

Sorry for the short note - I hate headaches, especially after seven
weeks of them. :-(

Overall, I liked your site. Can it be improved? Everybody's site can be
improved. David and even that guy who was going to sell 25 web sites a
day have helped me with suggestions and things they saw that went right
past my eyes.

Hardly any of your links work, except for the Top and More on the page
and the e-News link. You don't really need the Top links, your page
isn't that long. I would also drop the last updated part. It really
doesn't serve any purpose.

Mike

The Kat wrote:[color=darkred]
> Mike, which links aren't working: all links or the HREF menu links that lead
> to another page? If the latter, they aren't there yet. I had to have the site
> up to know the full address. (see query above this one)
>
> The Kat
>
>
> "Mike Koewler" wrote:
>
>

Rob Giordano $Crash$

2007-04-13, 6:15 pm

It's not there now, somehow she disabled it.

"DavidF" <Nope@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:Ox66UhXfHHA.4188@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| Unfortunately MSFT in their infinitive wisdom decided that users wanted
| right click disabled by default in Publisher 2003. They also decided to
not
| make it optional. In spite of feedback to the contrary, this is unchanged
in
| Pub 2007.
|
| DavidF
|
| "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in message
| news:eYS$%23BXfHHA.2408@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > You can probably optimize the images more without any loss...try
IrFanview
| > (freebie) optimize them before you put them in Pub.
| >
| > There is no photo security...the simple fact is all images are already
| > downloaded to the viewer's machine in order to be viewd (peruse your
temp
| > internet cache folder someday with an image viewer and you'll see). Also
| > you
| > can just do a View | Source for the location of the file, or a PrntScrn
| > then
| > paste into PS or any image editor...and you'll use this in a minute.
| >
| > Word Art can be converted either by PrntScrn and then into image editor
| > cropped and saved as jpg or gif...better still is use a vector based
| > graphics program like Illustrator, XaraXtreme, MS Expression Designer
| > etc...then save as jpg or gif.
| >
| > ...discouraging word;;;;;; you're on the road to outgrowing Publisher
webs
| > :-(
| >
| >
| >
| > "The Kat" <TheKat@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > news:0A71CF83-B54D-4CD0-BFDF-C2AB619EDFAC@microsoft.com...
| > |I had wondered about thatphoto security. Some of my colleagues use it,
| > some
| > | don't. Guess if anyone really wants those photos, they will get them!
| > I'll
| > | get rid of it (now where did I put that string of code...)
| > |
| > | "The page is cranky" WHICH page? If it's the home page, I'm not
| > surprised -
| > | that's why I want to have a lo-res b/w come up first then let the
color
| > | overwrite it - but I don't know how.
| > |
| > | Any suggestions on the word art? do it all in photo shop?
| > |
| > | Suggestions, instructions and code snips welcome.
| > |
| > | The Kat
| > |
| > | "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
| > |
| > | > Remove the no right click script...it does nothing to protect your
| > images
| > | > and pisses people off when they want to quickly bookmark your
| > page....or
| > | > look at your code.
| > | >
| > | > The page is cranky...doesn't load slow but it ain't fast.
| > | >
| > | > Word Art doesn't display well in browsers other than IE and even in
IE
| > I
| > | > think it looks....well...like Word Art.
| > | >
| > | > Take a gander at your web with FF...see the jaggies?
| > | >
| > | > More later..
| > | >
| > | > "The Kat" <TheKat@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > | > news:78D8D95B-8843-4F9C-9EBB-73AC2FB9240C@microsoft.com...
| > | > |I thought all of you knew what it was!
| > | > |
| > | > | David,, which links aren't working? I know the page to spot on
| > another
| > | > page
| > | > | isn't up. Are NONE of the links working, even the HREFs?
| > | > |
| > | > | I posted a query about using the image as a link - I'd like the
| > photos
| > on
| > | > | the Home page to link to the individual sections. How long did it
| > take
| > to
| > | > | load with all those pix?
| > | > |
| > | > | As for the black background - nothing I did woulld change the
color
| > of
| > the
| > | > | links to a lighter shade. Is that because the page has the style
| > squib
| > at
| > | > the
| > | > | top? (I can't re-style mid-page!)
| > | > |
| > | > | The interpage links and the thumbnail links are next. AND the
| > shopping
| > | > cart.
| > | > | But I've got to catch up on work (the spiders will be upset)
before
| > I
| > | > spend
| > | > | the required hours for that.
| > | > |
| > | > | Can you tell anything at all from the pictures there now? I've got
a
| > 18"
| > | > | monitor at hi res. I've got to check in on the TV in the basement
to
| > see
| > | > what
| > | > | it looks like on that - a hi-res tv is low -es compared to a
| > monitor.
| > Did
| > | > the
| > | > | fancy text on the glass pages come up - I think I got all of them
| > | > installed
| > | > | as pictures.
| > | > |
| > | > | Have fun tearing it apart. If you can't find some of the code, let
| > me
| > | > know.
| > | > | You wrote most of it, cutting weeks off the development time!
| > | > |
| > | > | MANY thanks to all of you.
| > | > |
| > | > | The Kat
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | "Mike Koewler" wrote:
| > | > |
| > | > | > http://www.2-lions.com/
| > | > | >
| > | > | > I looked at the old messages to find it!
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Mike
| > | > | >
| > | > | > DavidF wrote:
| > | > | > > What's the URL Mike?
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > DavidF
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > "Mike Koewler" <wordwiz@fuse.net> wrote in message
| > | > | > > news:9692b$461e20cc$453d95d5$9956@FUSE.NET...
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > >>Kat,
| > | > | > >>
| > | > | > >>And your links don't work in Mozilla. :-( I also find the dark
| > blue
| > | > (?)
| > | > | > >>text on the black background hard to read, but the mouseover
| > effect
| > | > makes
| > | > | > >>it easier.
| > | > | > >>
| > | > | > >>Mike
| > | > | > >>
| > | > | > >>The Kat wrote:
| > | > | > >>
| > | > | > >>
| > | > | > >>>The site is up and running.
| > | > | > >>>
| > | > | > >>>The Kat
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > >
| > | > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| >
| >
|
|

DavidF

2007-04-13, 6:15 pm

I am sorry, I misspoke. The right click, save image option is
disabled....not the entire right click context menu. I didn't even try a
right click when I viewed the site.

DavidF

"Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in message
news:eJnjeEdfHHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> It's not there now, somehow she disabled it.
>
>
>
>
> "DavidF" <Nope@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:Ox66UhXfHHA.4188@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> | Unfortunately MSFT in their infinitive wisdom decided that users wanted
> | right click disabled by default in Publisher 2003. They also decided to
> not
> | make it optional. In spite of feedback to the contrary, this is
> unchanged
> in
> | Pub 2007.
> |
> | DavidF
> |
> | "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in
> message
> | news:eYS$%23BXfHHA.2408@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> | > You can probably optimize the images more without any loss...try
> IrFanview
> | > (freebie) optimize them before you put them in Pub.
> | >
> | > There is no photo security...the simple fact is all images are already
> | > downloaded to the viewer's machine in order to be viewd (peruse your
> temp
> | > internet cache folder someday with an image viewer and you'll see).
> Also
> | > you
> | > can just do a View | Source for the location of the file, or a
> PrntScrn
> | > then
> | > paste into PS or any image editor...and you'll use this in a minute.
> | >
> | > Word Art can be converted either by PrntScrn and then into image
> editor
> | > cropped and saved as jpg or gif...better still is use a vector based
> | > graphics program like Illustrator, XaraXtreme, MS Expression Designer
> | > etc...then save as jpg or gif.
> | >
> | > ...discouraging word;;;;;; you're on the road to outgrowing Publisher
> webs
> | > :-(
> | >
> | >
> | >
> | > "The Kat" <TheKat@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > news:0A71CF83-B54D-4CD0-BFDF-C2AB619EDFAC@microsoft.com...
> | > |I had wondered about thatphoto security. Some of my colleagues use
> it,
> | > some
> | > | don't. Guess if anyone really wants those photos, they will get
> them!
> | > I'll
> | > | get rid of it (now where did I put that string of code...)
> | > |
> | > | "The page is cranky" WHICH page? If it's the home page, I'm not
> | > surprised -
> | > | that's why I want to have a lo-res b/w come up first then let the
> color
> | > | overwrite it - but I don't know how.
> | > |
> | > | Any suggestions on the word art? do it all in photo shop?
> | > |
> | > | Suggestions, instructions and code snips welcome.
> | > |
> | > | The Kat
> | > |
> | > | "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
> | > |
> | > | > Remove the no right click script...it does nothing to protect your
> | > images
> | > | > and pisses people off when they want to quickly bookmark your
> | > page....or
> | > | > look at your code.
> | > | >
> | > | > The page is cranky...doesn't load slow but it ain't fast.
> | > | >
> | > | > Word Art doesn't display well in browsers other than IE and even
> in
> IE
> | > I
> | > | > think it looks....well...like Word Art.
> | > | >
> | > | > Take a gander at your web with FF...see the jaggies?
> | > | >
> | > | > More later..
> | > | >
> | > | > "The Kat" <TheKat@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > | > news:78D8D95B-8843-4F9C-9EBB-73AC2FB9240C@microsoft.com...
> | > | > |I thought all of you knew what it was!
> | > | > |
> | > | > | David,, which links aren't working? I know the page to spot on
> | > another
> | > | > page
> | > | > | isn't up. Are NONE of the links working, even the HREFs?
> | > | > |
> | > | > | I posted a query about using the image as a link - I'd like the
> | > photos
> | > on
> | > | > | the Home page to link to the individual sections. How long did
> it
> | > take
> | > to
> | > | > | load with all those pix?
> | > | > |
> | > | > | As for the black background - nothing I did woulld change the
> color
> | > of
> | > the
> | > | > | links to a lighter shade. Is that because the page has the style
> | > squib
> | > at
> | > | > the
> | > | > | top? (I can't re-style mid-page!)
> | > | > |
> | > | > | The interpage links and the thumbnail links are next. AND the
> | > shopping
> | > | > cart.
> | > | > | But I've got to catch up on work (the spiders will be upset)
> before
> | > I
> | > | > spend
> | > | > | the required hours for that.
> | > | > |
> | > | > | Can you tell anything at all from the pictures there now? I've
> got
> a
> | > 18"
> | > | > | monitor at hi res. I've got to check in on the TV in the
> basement
> to
> | > see
> | > | > what
> | > | > | it looks like on that - a hi-res tv is low -es compared to a
> | > monitor.
> | > Did
> | > | > the
> | > | > | fancy text on the glass pages come up - I think I got all of
> them
> | > | > installed
> | > | > | as pictures.
> | > | > |
> | > | > | Have fun tearing it apart. If you can't find some of the code,
> let
> | > me
> | > | > know.
> | > | > | You wrote most of it, cutting weeks off the development time!
> | > | > |
> | > | > | MANY thanks to all of you.
> | > | > |
> | > | > | The Kat
> | > | > |
> | > | > |
> | > | > | "Mike Koewler" wrote:
> | > | > |
> | > | > | > http://www.2-lions.com/
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > I looked at the old messages to find it!
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > Mike
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > DavidF wrote:
> | > | > | > > What's the URL Mike?
> | > | > | > >
> | > | > | > > DavidF
> | > | > | > >
> | > | > | > > "Mike Koewler" <wordwiz@fuse.net> wrote in message
> | > | > | > > news:9692b$461e20cc$453d95d5$9956@FUSE.NET...
> | > | > | > >
> | > | > | > >>Kat,
> | > | > | > >>
> | > | > | > >>And your links don't work in Mozilla. :-( I also find the
> dark
> | > blue
> | > | > (?)
> | > | > | > >>text on the black background hard to read, but the mouseover
> | > effect
> | > | > makes
> | > | > | > >>it easier.
> | > | > | > >>
> | > | > | > >>Mike
> | > | > | > >>
> | > | > | > >>The Kat wrote:
> | > | > | > >>
> | > | > | > >>
> | > | > | > >>>The site is up and running.
> | > | > | > >>>
> | > | > | > >>>The Kat
> | > | > | > >
> | > | > | > >
> | > | > | > >
> | > | > | >
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>

Rob Giordano $Crash$

2007-04-13, 6:15 pm

.....and notably it don't werk in FF.

"DavidF" <Nope@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:u%23p1EedfHHA.2432@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
|I am sorry, I misspoke. The right click, save image option is
| disabled....not the entire right click context menu. I didn't even try a
| right click when I viewed the site.
|
| DavidF
|
| "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in message
| news:eJnjeEdfHHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| > It's not there now, somehow she disabled it.
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > "DavidF" <Nope@nospam.com> wrote in message
| > news:Ox66UhXfHHA.4188@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| > | Unfortunately MSFT in their infinitive wisdom decided that users
wanted
| > | right click disabled by default in Publisher 2003. They also decided
to
| > not
| > | make it optional. In spite of feedback to the contrary, this is
| > unchanged
| > in
| > | Pub 2007.
| > |
| > | DavidF
| > |
| > | "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in
| > message
| > | news:eYS$%23BXfHHA.2408@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > | > You can probably optimize the images more without any loss...try
| > IrFanview
| > | > (freebie) optimize them before you put them in Pub.
| > | >
| > | > There is no photo security...the simple fact is all images are
already
| > | > downloaded to the viewer's machine in order to be viewd (peruse your
| > temp
| > | > internet cache folder someday with an image viewer and you'll see).
| > Also
| > | > you
| > | > can just do a View | Source for the location of the file, or a
| > PrntScrn
| > | > then
| > | > paste into PS or any image editor...and you'll use this in a minute.
| > | >
| > | > Word Art can be converted either by PrntScrn and then into image
| > editor
| > | > cropped and saved as jpg or gif...better still is use a vector based
| > | > graphics program like Illustrator, XaraXtreme, MS Expression
Designer
| > | > etc...then save as jpg or gif.
| > | >
| > | > ...discouraging word;;;;;; you're on the road to outgrowing
Publisher
| > webs
| > | > :-(
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "The Kat" <TheKat@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > | > news:0A71CF83-B54D-4CD0-BFDF-C2AB619EDFAC@microsoft.com...
| > | > |I had wondered about thatphoto security. Some of my colleagues use
| > it,
| > | > some
| > | > | don't. Guess if anyone really wants those photos, they will get
| > them!
| > | > I'll
| > | > | get rid of it (now where did I put that string of code...)
| > | > |
| > | > | "The page is cranky" WHICH page? If it's the home page, I'm not
| > | > surprised -
| > | > | that's why I want to have a lo-res b/w come up first then let the
| > color
| > | > | overwrite it - but I don't know how.
| > | > |
| > | > | Any suggestions on the word art? do it all in photo shop?
| > | > |
| > | > | Suggestions, instructions and code snips welcome.
| > | > |
| > | > | The Kat
| > | > |
| > | > | "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
| > | > |
| > | > | > Remove the no right click script...it does nothing to protect
your
| > | > images
| > | > | > and pisses people off when they want to quickly bookmark your
| > | > page....or
| > | > | > look at your code.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > The page is cranky...doesn't load slow but it ain't fast.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Word Art doesn't display well in browsers other than IE and even
| > in
| > IE
| > | > I
| > | > | > think it looks....well...like Word Art.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Take a gander at your web with FF...see the jaggies?
| > | > | >
| > | > | > More later..
| > | > | >
| > | > | > "The Kat" <TheKat@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > news:78D8D95B-8843-4F9C-9EBB-73AC2FB9240C@microsoft.com...
| > | > | > |I thought all of you knew what it was!
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | David,, which links aren't working? I know the page to spot on
| > | > another
| > | > | > page
| > | > | > | isn't up. Are NONE of the links working, even the HREFs?
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | I posted a query about using the image as a link - I'd like
the
| > | > photos
| > | > on
| > | > | > | the Home page to link to the individual sections. How long did
| > it
| > | > take
| > | > to
| > | > | > | load with all those pix?
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | As for the black background - nothing I did woulld change the
| > color
| > | > of
| > | > the
| > | > | > | links to a lighter shade. Is that because the page has the
style
| > | > squib
| > | > at
| > | > | > the
| > | > | > | top? (I can't re-style mid-page!)
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | The interpage links and the thumbnail links are next. AND the
| > | > shopping
| > | > | > cart.
| > | > | > | But I've got to catch up on work (the spiders will be upset)
| > before
| > | > I
| > | > | > spend
| > | > | > | the required hours for that.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Can you tell anything at all from the pictures there now? I've
| > got
| > a
| > | > 18"
| > | > | > | monitor at hi res. I've got to check in on the TV in the
| > basement
| > to
| > | > see
| > | > | > what
| > | > | > | it looks like on that - a hi-res tv is low -es compared to a
| > | > monitor.
| > | > Did
| > | > | > the
| > | > | > | fancy text on the glass pages come up - I think I got all of
| > them
| > | > | > installed
| > | > | > | as pictures.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Have fun tearing it apart. If you can't find some of the code,
| > let
| > | > me
| > | > | > know.
| > | > | > | You wrote most of it, cutting weeks off the development time!
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | MANY thanks to all of you.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | The Kat
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | "Mike Koewler" wrote:
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > http://www.2-lions.com/
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > I looked at the old messages to find it!
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Mike
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > DavidF wrote:
| > | > | > | > > What's the URL Mike?
| > | > | > | > >
| > | > | > | > > DavidF
| > | > | > | > >
| > | > | > | > > "Mike Koewler" <wordwiz@fuse.net> wrote in message
| > | > | > | > > news:9692b$461e20cc$453d95d5$9956@FUSE.NET...
| > | > | > | > >
| > | > | > | > >>Kat,
| > | > | > | > >>
| > | > | > | > >>And your links don't work in Mozilla. :-( I also find the
| > dark
| > | > blue
| > | > | > (?)
| > | > | > | > >>text on the black background hard to read, but the
mouseover
| > | > effect
| > | > | > makes
| > | > | > | > >>it easier.
| > | > | > | > >>
| > | > | > | > >>Mike
| > | > | > | > >>
| > | > | > | > >>The Kat wrote:
| > | > | > | > >>
| > | > | > | > >>
| > | > | > | > >>>The site is up and running.
| > | > | > | > >>>
| > | > | > | > >>>The Kat
| > | > | > | > >
| > | > | > | > >
| > | > | > | > >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

The Kat

2007-04-13, 6:15 pm

When I cic a style check, nothing was flagged as overlaps. PUB probably
decided to resize the boxes on one of my saves.i will check the site.

I put the date in for 2 reasons. 1. we're testing and you should know when
it's been changed (if you are really keeping a eye on it, check the "report
an error" link to see the version number.) The other reason is simple - I've
gone to sites showing lovely things but get a 404 when I try to contact them.
Ends up the site has been there for two years with no changes. When I start
putting the new pieces up, I want viewers to know the pages are active and
the things are new.

Guess I could cut down the number of them, but think I'll leave the up for a
week. I haven't told anyone but you guys about the site being up.

You have my sympathy on headaches - I get migraines, too. Tried Imitrex? I
have a long list of remedies for headaches. Has it gone yet?

"Mike Koewler" wrote:

> Kat,
>
> Sorry for the short note - I hate headaches, especially after seven
> weeks of them. :-(
>
> Overall, I liked your site. Can it be improved? Everybody's site can be
> improved. David and even that guy who was going to sell 25 web sites a
> day have helped me with suggestions and things they saw that went right
> past my eyes.
>
> Hardly any of your links work, except for the Top and More on the page
> and the e-News link. You don't really need the Top links, your page
> isn't that long. I would also drop the last updated part. It really
> doesn't serve any purpose.
>
> Mike
>
> The Kat wrote:
>

The Kat

2007-04-13, 6:15 pm

I removed the right cleck code. In fact the sit was updated 3 times yesterday!

The top and bottom menus are there because of the small screene monitors. I
HATE having to scroll up to the top of a long page just to move to another
page in the site. Two of my suppliers do that and by the time I reach the
top, I've forgotten where I was going (of course, I'm easily distracted -
especially by gold and gems).

Did you have a specific page where I didn't need two? Once you get to the
"products" you really need both.

Has anyone figured out why I can't change the color of the home page bottom
panel? Is there only one code to guide the whole page?

"Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:

> .....and notably it don't werk in FF.
>
>
> "DavidF" <Nope@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:u%23p1EedfHHA.2432@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> |I am sorry, I misspoke. The right click, save image option is
> | disabled....not the entire right click context menu. I didn't even try a
> | right click when I viewed the site.
> |
> | DavidF
> |
> | "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in message
> | news:eJnjeEdfHHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> | > It's not there now, somehow she disabled it.
> | >
> | >
> | >
> | >
> | > "DavidF" <Nope@nospam.com> wrote in message
> | > news:Ox66UhXfHHA.4188@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> | > | Unfortunately MSFT in their infinitive wisdom decided that users
> wanted
> | > | right click disabled by default in Publisher 2003. They also decided
> to
> | > not
> | > | make it optional. In spite of feedback to the contrary, this is
> | > unchanged
> | > in
> | > | Pub 2007.
> | > |
> | > | DavidF
> | > |
> | > | "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in
> | > message
> | > | news:eYS$%23BXfHHA.2408@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> | > | > You can probably optimize the images more without any loss...try
> | > IrFanview
> | > | > (freebie) optimize them before you put them in Pub.
> | > | >
> | > | > There is no photo security...the simple fact is all images are
> already
> | > | > downloaded to the viewer's machine in order to be viewd (peruse your
> | > temp
> | > | > internet cache folder someday with an image viewer and you'll see).
> | > Also
> | > | > you
> | > | > can just do a View | Source for the location of the file, or a
> | > PrntScrn
> | > | > then
> | > | > paste into PS or any image editor...and you'll use this in a minute.
> | > | >
> | > | > Word Art can be converted either by PrntScrn and then into image
> | > editor
> | > | > cropped and saved as jpg or gif...better still is use a vector based
> | > | > graphics program like Illustrator, XaraXtreme, MS Expression
> Designer
> | > | > etc...then save as jpg or gif.
> | > | >
> | > | > ...discouraging word;;;;;; you're on the road to outgrowing
> Publisher
> | > webs
> | > | > :-(
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > | > "The Kat" <TheKat@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > | > news:0A71CF83-B54D-4CD0-BFDF-C2AB619EDFAC@microsoft.com...
> | > | > |I had wondered about thatphoto security. Some of my colleagues use
> | > it,
> | > | > some
> | > | > | don't. Guess if anyone really wants those photos, they will get
> | > them!
> | > | > I'll
> | > | > | get rid of it (now where did I put that string of code...)
> | > | > |
> | > | > | "The page is cranky" WHICH page? If it's the home page, I'm not
> | > | > surprised -
> | > | > | that's why I want to have a lo-res b/w come up first then let the
> | > color
> | > | > | overwrite it - but I don't know how.
> | > | > |
> | > | > | Any suggestions on the word art? do it all in photo shop?
> | > | > |
> | > | > | Suggestions, instructions and code snips welcome.
> | > | > |
> | > | > | The Kat
> | > | > |
> | > | > | "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
> | > | > |
> | > | > | > Remove the no right click script...it does nothing to protect
> your
> | > | > images
> | > | > | > and pisses people off when they want to quickly bookmark your
> | > | > page....or
> | > | > | > look at your code.
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > The page is cranky...doesn't load slow but it ain't fast.
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > Word Art doesn't display well in browsers other than IE and even
> | > in
> | > IE
> | > | > I
> | > | > | > think it looks....well...like Word Art.
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > Take a gander at your web with FF...see the jaggies?
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > More later..
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > "The Kat" <TheKat@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > | > | > news:78D8D95B-8843-4F9C-9EBB-73AC2FB9240C@microsoft.com...
> | > | > | > |I thought all of you knew what it was!
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | David,, which links aren't working? I know the page to spot on
> | > | > another
> | > | > | > page
> | > | > | > | isn't up. Are NONE of the links working, even the HREFs?
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | I posted a query about using the image as a link - I'd like
> the
> | > | > photos
> | > | > on
> | > | > | > | the Home page to link to the individual sections. How long did
> | > it
> | > | > take
> | > | > to
> | > | > | > | load with all those pix?
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | As for the black background - nothing I did woulld change the
> | > color
> | > | > of
> | > | > the
> | > | > | > | links to a lighter shade. Is that because the page has the
> style
> | > | > squib
> | > | > at
> | > | > | > the
> | > | > | > | top? (I can't re-style mid-page!)
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | The interpage links and the thumbnail links are next. AND the
> | > | > shopping
> | > | > | > cart.
> | > | > | > | But I've got to catch up on work (the spiders will be upset)
> | > before
> | > | > I
> | > | > | > spend
> | > | > | > | the required hours for that.
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | Can you tell anything at all from the pictures there now? I've
> | > got
> | > a
> | > | > 18"
> | > | > | > | monitor at hi res. I've got to check in on the TV in the
> | > basement
> | > to
> | > | > see
> | > | > | > what
> | > | > | > | it looks like on that - a hi-res tv is low -es compared to a
> | > | > monitor.
> | > | > Did
> | > | > | > the
> | > | > | > | fancy text on the glass pages come up - I think I got all of
> | > them
> | > | > | > installed
> | > | > | > | as pictures.
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | Have fun tearing it apart. If you can't find some of the code,
> | > let
> | > | > me
> | > | > | > know.
> | > | > | > | You wrote most of it, cutting weeks off the development time!
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | MANY thanks to all of you.
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | The Kat
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | "Mike Koewler" wrote:
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | > http://www.2-lions.com/
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > I looked at the old messages to find it!
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > Mike
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > DavidF wrote:
> | > | > | > | > > What's the URL Mike?
> | > | > | > | > >
> | > | > | > | > > DavidF
> | > | > | > | > >
> | > | > | > | > > "Mike Koewler" <wordwiz@fuse.net> wrote in message
> | > | > | > | > > news:9692b$461e20cc$453d95d5$9956@FUSE.NET...
> | > | > | > | > >
> | > | > | > | > >>Kat,
> | > | > | > | > >>
> | > | > | > | > >>And your links don't work in Mozilla. :-( I also find the
> | > dark
> | > | > blue
> | > | > | > (?)
> | > | > | > | > >>text on the black background hard to read, but the
> mouseover
> | > | > effect
> | > | > | > makes
> | > | > | > | > >>it easier.
> | > | > | > | > >>
> | > | > | > | > >>Mike
> | > | > | > | > >>
> | > | > | > | > >>The Kat wrote:
> | > | > | > | > >>
> | > | > | > | > >>
> | > | > | > | > >>>The site is up and running.
> | > | > | > | > >>>
> | > | > | > | > >>>The Kat
> | > | > | > | > >
> | > | > | > | > >
> | > | > | > | > >
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | >
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > |
> | > |
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>
>

The Kat

2007-04-13, 6:15 pm

The last time I had FF on my system it took me weeks to remove its traces.
How if FF2 better than FF1? I don't like having to program an entire
interface every time I log on. (That's one good thing about MS.) I'll take
your word for the FF problems. No on e I know around here uses it.

I will make that change this afternoon and try to optimize the pix, too - I
downloaded that program. I'll let you know. oryou can check the site about
8PM CDT.

What other browsers are you all using?

And none of you answered my other query: How do I find
the correct image name on my site to create and image link? Pub renames
everything. I can't even try to guess: one of home page pix was #297 on the
image list on my computer.

Also, How do I HREF to a point on another page. On both glass art & jewelry
lists, these are part of a menu list of HREFs same page links. I was hoping
that those were the links that didn't work.

"DavidF" wrote:

> You really should download and install FF 2.0, and test your site on your
> computer. You simply direct the html output from Publisher to your hard
> drive, instead of your host's server. Then open the index.htm file with FF.
>
> I believe the links that don't work that Mike referenced are your main
> navbars at the top and bottom of your pages. In FF, these are converted to
> an image, and the links are killed.
>
> One of the advantages of using a dial-up modem, if there is any, is that I
> can see the different image placeholders load along with the ALT tags. When
> I watch your page load, it appears that your menu/navbar text frame is
> overlapping images, which I believe results in the text box being converted
> to an image in the code Publisher produces for non-IE browsers. To fix the
> problem, adjust your layout so that nothing overlaps the navbar text box. If
> you have installed FF, you can test this out on the home page, and try the
> top navbar first. When you open the fresh index.htm file in FF, mouseover
> the links and see if they work. If they don't, try to select the text in the
> navbar...if you can't, then it is an image.
>
> If you really don't want to make the time to download FF yet, then make the
> changes to the top and bottom menu of your index.htm file, and upload it.
> Post back when you want Mike or I to look at it. Don't waste a lot of time
>
> DavidF
>
> "The Kat" <TheKat@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:78D8D95B-8843-4F9C-9EBB-73AC2FB9240C@microsoft.com...
>
>
>

Mike Koewler

2007-04-13, 10:17 pm

Kat,

Usually, if you try your site in IE, FF (or Mozilla, SeaMonkey,
Netscape) and Opera, you will have covered 98.5 percent of all browsers,
maybe more.

> the correct image name on my site to create and image link?

Don't worry about what Pub names an image. Create the link to whatever
the image is named when you place it (necklace1.jpg) for instance.

If you want to link to a specific point on a page, put an anchor at that
point. Then the link would be /pagename.html#anchorname

Mike

The Kat wrote:[color=darkred]
> The last time I had FF on my system it took me weeks to remove its traces.
> How if FF2 better than FF1? I don't like having to program an entire
> interface every time I log on. (That's one good thing about MS.) I'll take
> your word for the FF problems. No on e I know around here uses it.
>
> I will make that change this afternoon and try to optimize the pix, too - I
> downloaded that program. I'll let you know. oryou can check the site about
> 8PM CDT.
>
> What other browsers are you all using?
>
> And none of you answered my other query: How do I find
> the correct image name on my site to create and image link? Pub renames
> everything. I can't even try to guess: one of home page pix was #297 on the
> image list on my computer.
>
> Also, How do I HREF to a point on another page. On both glass art & jewelry
> lists, these are part of a menu list of HREFs same page links. I was hoping
> that those were the links that didn't work.
>
>
>
> "DavidF" wrote:
>
>

DavidF

2007-04-14, 3:16 am

Who are you talking to? I didn't read anywhere that someone suggested not
having two menus. There is nothing wrong with one on top and one on the
bottom. Seem appropriate to me.

"Has anyone figured out why I can't change the color of the home page bottom
panel? Is there only one code to guide the whole page?" Once again, what are
you talking about?

DavidF

"The Kat" <TheKat@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:32179D38-A145-44F5-BAD4-DF9D5E3F8C26@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>I removed the right cleck code. In fact the sit was updated 3 times
>yesterday!
>
> The top and bottom menus are there because of the small screene monitors.
> I
> HATE having to scroll up to the top of a long page just to move to another
> page in the site. Two of my suppliers do that and by the time I reach the
> top, I've forgotten where I was going (of course, I'm easily distracted -
> especially by gold and gems).
>
> Did you have a specific page where I didn't need two? Once you get to the
> "products" you really need both.
>
> Has anyone figured out why I can't change the color of the home page
> bottom
> panel? Is there only one code to guide the whole page?
>
>
>
> "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
>

DavidF

2007-04-14, 3:16 am

I never noticed that before. Thanks for making note, as that is an answer
for those people that want their viewers to be able to copy the image. They
can load it in FF.

DavidF

"Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in message
news:eg%23aVFefHHA.2216@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> ....and notably it don't werk in FF.
>
>
> "DavidF" <Nope@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:u%23p1EedfHHA.2432@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> |I am sorry, I misspoke. The right click, save image option is
> | disabled....not the entire right click context menu. I didn't even try a
> | right click when I viewed the site.
> |
> | DavidF
> |
> | "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in
> message
> | news:eJnjeEdfHHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> | > It's not there now, somehow she disabled it.
> | >
> | >
> | >
> | >
> | > "DavidF" <Nope@nospam.com> wrote in message
> | > news:Ox66UhXfHHA.4188@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> | > | Unfortunately MSFT in their infinitive wisdom decided that users
> wanted
> | > | right click disabled by default in Publisher 2003. They also decided
> to
> | > not
> | > | make it optional. In spite of feedback to the contrary, this is
> | > unchanged
> | > in
> | > | Pub 2007.
> | > |
> | > | DavidF
> | > |
> | > | "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in
> | > message
> | > | news:eYS$%23BXfHHA.2408@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> | > | > You can probably optimize the images more without any loss...try
> | > IrFanview
> | > | > (freebie) optimize them before you put them in Pub.
> | > | >
> | > | > There is no photo security...the simple fact is all images are
> already
> | > | > downloaded to the viewer's machine in order to be viewd (peruse
> your
> | > temp
> | > | > internet cache folder someday with an image viewer and you'll
> see).
> | > Also
> | > | > you
> | > | > can just do a View | Source for the location of the file, or a
> | > PrntScrn
> | > | > then
> | > | > paste into PS or any image editor...and you'll use this in a
> minute.
> | > | >
> | > | > Word Art can be converted either by PrntScrn and then into image
> | > editor
> | > | > cropped and saved as jpg or gif...better still is use a vector
> based
> | > | > graphics program like Illustrator, XaraXtreme, MS Expression
> Designer
> | > | > etc...then save as jpg or gif.
> | > | >
> | > | > ...discouraging word;;;;;; you're on the road to outgrowing
> Publisher
> | > webs
> | > | > :-(
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > | > "The Kat" <TheKat@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > | > news:0A71CF83-B54D-4CD0-BFDF-C2AB619EDFAC@microsoft.com...
> | > | > |I had wondered about thatphoto security. Some of my colleagues
> use
> | > it,
> | > | > some
> | > | > | don't. Guess if anyone really wants those photos, they will get
> | > them!
> | > | > I'll
> | > | > | get rid of it (now where did I put that string of code...)
> | > | > |
> | > | > | "The page is cranky" WHICH page? If it's the home page, I'm not
> | > | > surprised -
> | > | > | that's why I want to have a lo-res b/w come up first then let
> the
> | > color
> | > | > | overwrite it - but I don't know how.
> | > | > |
> | > | > | Any suggestions on the word art? do it all in photo shop?
> | > | > |
> | > | > | Suggestions, instructions and code snips welcome.
> | > | > |
> | > | > | The Kat
> | > | > |
> | > | > | "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
> | > | > |
> | > | > | > Remove the no right click script...it does nothing to protect
> your
> | > | > images
> | > | > | > and pisses people off when they want to quickly bookmark your
> | > | > page....or
> | > | > | > look at your code.
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > The page is cranky...doesn't load slow but it ain't fast.
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > Word Art doesn't display well in browsers other than IE and
> even
> | > in
> | > IE
> | > | > I
> | > | > | > think it looks....well...like Word Art.
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > Take a gander at your web with FF...see the jaggies?
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > More later..
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > "The Kat" <TheKat@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > | > | > news:78D8D95B-8843-4F9C-9EBB-73AC2FB9240C@microsoft.com...
> | > | > | > |I thought all of you knew what it was!
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | David,, which links aren't working? I know the page to spot
> on
> | > | > another
> | > | > | > page
> | > | > | > | isn't up. Are NONE of the links working, even the HREFs?
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | I posted a query about using the image as a link - I'd like
> the
> | > | > photos
> | > | > on
> | > | > | > | the Home page to link to the individual sections. How long
> did
> | > it
> | > | > take
> | > | > to
> | > | > | > | load with all those pix?
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | As for the black background - nothing I did woulld change
> the
> | > color
> | > | > of
> | > | > the
> | > | > | > | links to a lighter shade. Is that because the page has the
> style
> | > | > squib
> | > | > at
> | > | > | > the
> | > | > | > | top? (I can't re-style mid-page!)
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | The interpage links and the thumbnail links are next. AND
> the
> | > | > shopping
> | > | > | > cart.
> | > | > | > | But I've got to catch up on work (the spiders will be upset)
> | > before
> | > | > I
> | > | > | > spend
> | > | > | > | the required hours for that.
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | Can you tell anything at all from the pictures there now?
> I've
> | > got
> | > a
> | > | > 18"
> | > | > | > | monitor at hi res. I've got to check in on the TV in the
> | > basement
> | > to
> | > | > see
> | > | > | > what
> | > | > | > | it looks like on that - a hi-res tv is low -es compared to a
> | > | > monitor.
> | > | > Did
> | > | > | > the
> | > | > | > | fancy text on the glass pages come up - I think I got all of
> | > them
> | > | > | > installed
> | > | > | > | as pictures.
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | Have fun tearing it apart. If you can't find some of the
> code,
> | > let
> | > | > me
> | > | > | > know.
> | > | > | > | You wrote most of it, cutting weeks off the development
> time!
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | MANY thanks to all of you.
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | The Kat
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | "Mike Koewler" wrote:
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | > http://www.2-lions.com/
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > I looked at the old messages to find it!
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > Mike
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > DavidF wrote:
> | > | > | > | > > What's the URL Mike?
> | > | > | > | > >
> | > | > | > | > > DavidF
> | > | > | > | > >
> | > | > | > | > > "Mike Koewler" <wordwiz@fuse.net> wrote in message
> | > | > | > | > > news:9692b$461e20cc$453d95d5$9956@FUSE.NET...
> | > | > | > | > >
> | > | > | > | > >>Kat,
> | > | > | > | > >>
> | > | > | > | > >>And your links don't work in Mozilla. :-( I also find
> the
> | > dark
> | > | > blue
> | > | > | > (?)
> | > | > | > | > >>text on the black background hard to read, but the
> mouseover
> | > | > effect
> | > | > | > makes
> | > | > | > | > >>it easier.
> | > | > | > | > >>
> | > | > | > | > >>Mike
> | > | > | > | > >>
> | > | > | > | > >>The Kat wrote:
> | > | > | > | > >>
> | > | > | > | > >>
> | > | > | > | > >>>The site is up and running.
> | > | > | > | > >>>
> | > | > | > | > >>>The Kat
> | > | > | > | > >
> | > | > | > | > >
> | > | > | > | > >
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | >
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > |
> | > |
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>

DavidF

2007-04-14, 3:16 am

Once again, what do you mean by "I don't like having to program an entire
interface every time I log on."? IE and FF can live happily together, and
there is no programming involved with FF. I installed FF primarily to test
websites, but have found that I actually enjoy it more than IE in some ways.
If you want to be serious about this website of yours, you need to install
it and use it. Its your website, not ours.

The rest of your questions I answered as best as I could in your post above.

DavidF

"The Kat" <TheKat@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5A49D120-6519-40F4-9EAC-40C44F78A46D@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
> The last time I had FF on my system it took me weeks to remove its traces.
> How if FF2 better than FF1? I don't like having to program an entire
> interface every time I log on. (That's one good thing about MS.) I'll take
> your word for the FF problems. No on e I know around here uses it.
>
> I will make that change this afternoon and try to optimize the pix, too -
> I
> downloaded that program. I'll let you know. oryou can check the site about
> 8PM CDT.
>
> What other browsers are you all using?
>
> And none of you answered my other query: How do I find
> the correct image name on my site to create and image link? Pub renames
> everything. I can't even try to guess: one of home page pix was #297 on
> the
> image list on my computer.
>
> Also, How do I HREF to a point on another page. On both glass art &
> jewelry
> lists, these are part of a menu list of HREFs same page links. I was
> hoping
> that those were the links that didn't work.
>
>
>
> "DavidF" wrote:
>

Rob Giordano $Crash$

2007-04-14, 3:16 am

I just found it the other day...i don't really use FF that much.

"DavidF" <Nope@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:e3ZYdtjfHHA.3268@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
|I never noticed that before. Thanks for making note, as that is an answer
| for those people that want their viewers to be able to copy the image.
They
| can load it in FF.
|
| DavidF
|
| "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in message
| news:eg%23aVFefHHA.2216@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > ....and notably it don't werk in FF.
| >
| >
| > "DavidF" <Nope@nospam.com> wrote in message
| > news:u%23p1EedfHHA.2432@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > |I am sorry, I misspoke. The right click, save image option is
| > | disabled....not the entire right click context menu. I didn't even try
a
| > | right click when I viewed the site.
| > |
| > | DavidF
| > |
| > | "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in
| > message
| > | news:eJnjeEdfHHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| > | > It's not there now, somehow she disabled it.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "DavidF" <Nope@nospam.com> wrote in message
| > | > news:Ox66UhXfHHA.4188@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| > | > | Unfortunately MSFT in their infinitive wisdom decided that users
| > wanted
| > | > | right click disabled by default in Publisher 2003. They also
decided
| > to
| > | > not
| > | > | make it optional. In spite of feedback to the contrary, this is
| > | > unchanged
| > | > in
| > | > | Pub 2007.
| > | > |
| > | > | DavidF
| > | > |
| > | > | "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in
| > | > message
| > | > | news:eYS$%23BXfHHA.2408@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > | > | > You can probably optimize the images more without any loss...try
| > | > IrFanview
| > | > | > (freebie) optimize them before you put them in Pub.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > There is no photo security...the simple fact is all images are
| > already
| > | > | > downloaded to the viewer's machine in order to be viewd (peruse
| > your
| > | > temp
| > | > | > internet cache folder someday with an image viewer and you'll
| > see).
| > | > Also
| > | > | > you
| > | > | > can just do a View | Source for the location of the file, or a
| > | > PrntScrn
| > | > | > then
| > | > | > paste into PS or any image editor...and you'll use this in a
| > minute.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Word Art can be converted either by PrntScrn and then into image
| > | > editor
| > | > | > cropped and saved as jpg or gif...better still is use a vector
| > based
| > | > | > graphics program like Illustrator, XaraXtreme, MS Expression
| > Designer
| > | > | > etc...then save as jpg or gif.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > ...discouraging word;;;;;; you're on the road to outgrowing
| > Publisher
| > | > webs
| > | > | > :-(
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > "The Kat" <TheKat@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > news:0A71CF83-B54D-4CD0-BFDF-C2AB619EDFAC@microsoft.com...
| > | > | > |I had wondered about thatphoto security. Some of my colleagues
| > use
| > | > it,
| > | > | > some
| > | > | > | don't. Guess if anyone really wants those photos, they will
get
| > | > them!
| > | > | > I'll
| > | > | > | get rid of it (now where did I put that string of code...)
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | "The page is cranky" WHICH page? If it's the home page, I'm
not
| > | > | > surprised -
| > | > | > | that's why I want to have a lo-res b/w come up first then let
| > the
| > | > color
| > | > | > | overwrite it - but I don't know how.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Any suggestions on the word art? do it all in photo shop?
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Suggestions, instructions and code snips welcome.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | The Kat
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > Remove the no right click script...it does nothing to
protect
| > your
| > | > | > images
| > | > | > | > and pisses people off when they want to quickly bookmark
your
| > | > | > page....or
| > | > | > | > look at your code.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > The page is cranky...doesn't load slow but it ain't fast.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Word Art doesn't display well in browsers other than IE and
| > even
| > | > in
| > | > IE
| > | > | > I
| > | > | > | > think it looks....well...like Word Art.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Take a gander at your web with FF...see the jaggies?
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > More later..
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > "The Kat" <TheKat@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
| > | > | > | > news:78D8D95B-8843-4F9C-9EBB-73AC2FB9240C@microsoft.com...
| > | > | > | > |I thought all of you knew what it was!
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | David,, which links aren't working? I know the page to
spot
| > on
| > | > | > another
| > | > | > | > page
| > | > | > | > | isn't up. Are NONE of the links working, even the HREFs?
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | I posted a query about using the image as a link - I'd
like
| > the
| > | > | > photos
| > | > | > on
| > | > | > | > | the Home page to link to the individual sections. How long
| > did
| > | > it
| > | > | > take
| > | > | > to
| > | > | > | > | load with all those pix?
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | As for the black background - nothing I did woulld change
| > the
| > | > color
| > | > | > of
| > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | links to a lighter shade. Is that because the page has the
| > style
| > | > | > squib
| > | > | > at
| > | > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | top? (I can't re-style mid-page!)
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | The interpage links and the thumbnail links are next. AND
| > the
| > | > | > shopping
| > | > | > | > cart.
| > | > | > | > | But I've got to catch up on work (the spiders will be
upset)
| > | > before
| > | > | > I
| > | > | > | > spend
| > | > | > | > | the required hours for that.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Can you tell anything at all from the pictures there now?
| > I've
| > | > got
| > | > a
| > | > | > 18"
| > | > | > | > | monitor at hi res. I've got to check in on the TV in the
| > | > basement
| > | > to
| > | > | > see
| > | > | > | > what
| > | > | > | > | it looks like on that - a hi-res tv is low -es compared to
a
| > | > | > monitor.
| > | > | > Did
| > | > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | fancy text on the glass pages come up - I think I got all
of
| > | > them
| > | > | > | > installed
| > | > | > | > | as pictures.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Have fun tearing it apart. If you can't find some of the
| > code,
| > | > let
| > | > | > me
| > | > | > | > know.
| > | > | > | > | You wrote most of it, cutting weeks off the development
| > time!
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | MANY thanks to all of you.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | The Kat
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | "Mike Koewler" wrote:
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > http://www.2-lions.com/
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > I looked at the old messages to find it!
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > Mike
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > DavidF wrote:
| > | > | > | > | > > What's the URL Mike?
| > | > | > | > | > >
| > | > | > | > | > > DavidF
| > | > | > | > | > >
| > | > | > | > | > > "Mike Koewler" <wordwiz@fuse.net> wrote in message
| > | > | > | > | > > news:9692b$461e20cc$453d95d5$9956@FUSE.NET...
| > | > | > | > | > >
| > | > | > | > | > >>Kat,
| > | > | > | > | > >>
| > | > | > | > | > >>And your links don't work in Mozilla. :-( I also find
| > the
| > | > dark
| > | > | > blue
| > | > | > | > (?)
| > | > | > | > | > >>text on the black background hard to read, but the
| > mouseover
| > | > | > effect
| > | > | > | > makes
| > | > | > | > | > >>it easier.
| > | > | > | > | > >>
| > | > | > | > | > >>Mike
| > | > | > | > | > >>
| > | > | > | > | > >>The Kat wrote:
| > | > | > | > | > >>
| > | > | > | > | > >>
| > | > | > | > | > >>>The site is up and running.
| > | > | > | > | > >>>
| > | > | > | > | > >>>The Kat
| > | > | > | > | > >
| > | > | > | > | > >
| > | > | > | > | > >
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

Mike Koewler

2007-04-14, 3:16 am

David,

websites, but have found that I actually enjoy it more than IE in some
ways. <<

Careful, you're giving credibility to the browser stats I posted! I
checked another site I maintain, one that should appeal to a completely
different crowd, and saw close to the same percentage.

BTW, I've seen a shift in the last month or two toward 1024 x 768
monitors. It's now over 50 percent of visitors. Not justification to
start making pages wider yet, but I would guess that at this time next
year, you'll start seeing way more of them.

Mike

DavidF wrote:[color=darkred]
> Once again, what do you mean by "I don't like having to program an entire
> interface every time I log on."? IE and FF can live happily together, and
> there is no programming involved with FF. I installed FF primarily to test
> websites, but have found that I actually enjoy it more than IE in some ways.
> If you want to be serious about this website of yours, you need to install
> it and use it. Its your website, not ours.
>
> The rest of your questions I answered as best as I could in your post above.
>
> DavidF
>
> "The Kat" <TheKat@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:5A49D120-6519-40F4-9EAC-40C44F78A46D@microsoft.com...
>
>
>

DavidF

2007-04-14, 6:17 pm

Mike,

Times, they be a changn'...

DavidF

"Mike Koewler" <wordwiz@fuse.net> wrote in message
news:15e91$46205dc6$453d95d5$17378@FUSE.NET...[color=darkred]
> David,
>
> websites, but have found that I actually enjoy it more than IE in some
> ways. <<
>
> Careful, you're giving credibility to the browser stats I posted! I
> checked another site I maintain, one that should appeal to a completely
> different crowd, and saw close to the same percentage.
>
> BTW, I've seen a shift in the last month or two toward 1024 x 768
> monitors. It's now over 50 percent of visitors. Not justification to start
> making pages wider yet, but I would guess that at this time next year,
> you'll start seeing way more of them.
>
> Mike
>
> DavidF wrote: