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The index_files folder

ladalang

2007-03-27, 7:16 pm

In publishing Http, when I open my network places and look at what is on the
server the index_files folder is not visible. I tried to show hidden folders
and it still isn't showing me that folder. I tried creating an index_file
folder and of course it told me one already existed. So my question is how
can I view and add images to the index_file folder? I need to add some
images to it that are linked to a pop up script.

What I tried was to creat a blank page with no navigation to it and placed
the images on the page, same names as in the script and then saving it
assuming it would place them in the folder. Didn't work.
When I test the pop up I get the location it's looking to find the image
and it's the index_file folder.

I know in passive ftp you actually have to physically load the index_file
folder on to the server.

So any help would be greatly appreciated.

ladalang

2007-03-28, 7:17 pm

Does anyone have the answer to this? I need one as soon as possible?

"ladalang" wrote:

> In publishing Http, when I open my network places and look at what is on the
> server the index_files folder is not visible. I tried to show hidden folders
> and it still isn't showing me that folder. I tried creating an index_file
> folder and of course it told me one already existed. So my question is how
> can I view and add images to the index_file folder? I need to add some
> images to it that are linked to a pop up script.
>
> What I tried was to creat a blank page with no navigation to it and placed
> the images on the page, same names as in the script and then saving it
> assuming it would place them in the folder. Didn't work.
> When I test the pop up I get the location it's looking to find the image
> and it's the index_file folder.
>
> I know in passive ftp you actually have to physically load the index_file
> folder on to the server.
>
> So any help would be greatly appreciated.

Don Schmidt

2007-03-28, 7:17 pm

When you say "network places" are you referring to the Network Places on
your computer?

You want to look at the folders and files on the ISP server.

I use Publisher 2000 and it requires me to upload all my html and images
files to the server. It doesn't have a "Publish to".

If you want to add images to be part of the web pages you insert them to the
pub file; then Save as a website.

--
Don
Quid Pro Quo.

"ladalang" <ladalang@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:88C49D0D-26E6-45BB-B070-EF4AF5637ACA@microsoft.com...
> In publishing Http, when I open my network places and look at what is on
> the
> server the index_files folder is not visible. I tried to show hidden
> folders
> and it still isn't showing me that folder. I tried creating an index_file
> folder and of course it told me one already existed. So my question is
> how
> can I view and add images to the index_file folder? I need to add some
> images to it that are linked to a pop up script.
>
> What I tried was to creat a blank page with no navigation to it and
> placed
> the images on the page, same names as in the script and then saving it
> assuming it would place them in the folder. Didn't work.
> When I test the pop up I get the location it's looking to find the image
> and it's the index_file folder.
>
> I know in passive ftp you actually have to physically load the index_file
> folder on to the server.
>
> So any help would be greatly appreciated.

DavidF

2007-03-28, 7:17 pm

When you use network places to access your host space, do you see the
index.htm file? The index_files folder should be at the same level. Its
possible that you see a default folder provided by your host to contain your
index.htm file and index_files folder...if that is what you see when you
connect, then try double clicking it, and opening it. Find the index.htm
file, and you should find the index_files folder. You might reference the
troubleshooting article on uploading:
http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/a...egory/1921.aspx

Personally I would suggest that you put the images that are associated with
your pop up script in a different folder on your host, and write the script
so the links point to that folder. Then when you change the rest of your
site, and update, those images will not be overwritten. Reference: Including
External Files In A Publisher Web:
http://pubs.logicalexpressions.com/...icle.asp?ID=532
and it will review the principles involved.

DavidF

"ladalang" <ladalang@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:88C49D0D-26E6-45BB-B070-EF4AF5637ACA@microsoft.com...
> In publishing Http, when I open my network places and look at what is on
> the
> server the index_files folder is not visible. I tried to show hidden
> folders
> and it still isn't showing me that folder. I tried creating an index_file
> folder and of course it told me one already existed. So my question is
> how
> can I view and add images to the index_file folder? I need to add some
> images to it that are linked to a pop up script.
>
> What I tried was to creat a blank page with no navigation to it and
> placed
> the images on the page, same names as in the script and then saving it
> assuming it would place them in the folder. Didn't work.
> When I test the pop up I get the location it's looking to find the image
> and it's the index_file folder.
>
> I know in passive ftp you actually have to physically load the index_file
> folder on to the server.
>
> So any help would be greatly appreciated.

ladalang

2007-03-28, 7:17 pm

I see the index.html file but I only see the attachments that I have loaded
on the server. I do not see an index_file folder. When I click on the
index.html I of course see the website. I have opened folder options and
have said to show hidden folders but the index_file folder still doesn't
appear.

I have Publisher 2003. I hit the publish to the web shortcut at the top of
my page, it opens my network places and I then choose the domain I'm trying
to access. The user id and password box appears I say ok, and it then shows
me all of the files loaded on the server.

I need to know if someone knows where the index_file folder is and how to
access it in an http publishing environment. Again I told it to show me all
hidden folders and it did nothing different.

I also publish sites passive ftp and in that environment the index_file
folder is clearly visible. But in passive ftp you can't use Front Page
Extensions which is why I went with http publishing.

I tried to create a folder called index_file and it told me one already
existed so it's there just not visible.

The script I have I didn't create and I've looked through to find where it
points to the index_file folder but can't figure it out. I already tried
that route with no luck.

as it stands it's sending out a advertisement from the host because I've
given it the wrong path. I put the images right on the server which is not
the index_file folder. If anyone could open and existing site that has the
same version and publishes http and tries to find the index_file or can
locate it that would be of great help.

It's a puzzle I hope someone can solve.

"DavidF" wrote:

> When you use network places to access your host space, do you see the
> index.htm file? The index_files folder should be at the same level. Its
> possible that you see a default folder provided by your host to contain your
> index.htm file and index_files folder...if that is what you see when you
> connect, then try double clicking it, and opening it. Find the index.htm
> file, and you should find the index_files folder. You might reference the
> troubleshooting article on uploading:
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/a...egory/1921.aspx
>
> Personally I would suggest that you put the images that are associated with
> your pop up script in a different folder on your host, and write the script
> so the links point to that folder. Then when you change the rest of your
> site, and update, those images will not be overwritten. Reference: Including
> External Files In A Publisher Web:
> http://pubs.logicalexpressions.com/...icle.asp?ID=532
> and it will review the principles involved.
>
> DavidF
>
> "ladalang" <ladalang@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:88C49D0D-26E6-45BB-B070-EF4AF5637ACA@microsoft.com...
>
>
>

ladalang

2007-03-28, 7:17 pm

I just went into my network places on my computer and I have about 15 sites
all http all done in Publisher and they all are missing the index_file
folder.

It must be a publisher thing, but where are they?

Mike Koewler

2007-03-28, 11:16 pm

Can you upload your publisher file to your host and provide a link to it
or e-mail it to me? Or, if you have a ftp program, go to your site and
rename your index.htm file to something like ndex.htm. That way, when
someone visits your site, they will get a directory listing which either
will or will not have a index_file folder.

This might help dim-witted people like me figure out exactly what the
problem is. :-)

Mike

ladalang wrote:
> I just went into my network places on my computer and I have about 15 sites
> all http all done in Publisher and they all are missing the index_file
> folder.
>
>
> It must be a publisher thing, but where are they?

ladalang

2007-03-28, 11:16 pm

my site is hosted. here's the link.
http://www.marychoward.com

go to the slice of heaven page. when you click on those locations you
should see a thumbnail on the map/right now you see a red x and when you
clink on them you should see a larger version of the area map. now you see
an advertisement, but look on the url. it shows the index_file folder.

"Mike Koewler" wrote:

> Can you upload your publisher file to your host and provide a link to it
> or e-mail it to me? Or, if you have a ftp program, go to your site and
> rename your index.htm file to something like ndex.htm. That way, when
> someone visits your site, they will get a directory listing which either
> will or will not have a index_file folder.
>
> This might help dim-witted people like me figure out exactly what the
> problem is. :-)
>
> Mike
>
> ladalang wrote:
>

Mike Koewler

2007-03-29, 7:16 pm

Those links are to anchors that appear to be in the map. They are not
web pages, per se. I have seen some programs that complain that spaces,
such as Read Here1 are not valid anchor names, that you need something
like Read_Here1.

Mike

ladalang wrote:[color=darkred]
> my site is hosted. here's the link.
> http://www.marychoward.com
>
> go to the slice of heaven page. when you click on those locations you
> should see a thumbnail on the map/right now you see a red x and when you
> clink on them you should see a larger version of the area map. now you see
> an advertisement, but look on the url. it shows the index_file folder.
>
> "Mike Koewler" wrote:
>
>

ladalang

2007-03-30, 7:16 pm

You are correct the anchors just take you to the map, but when clicked on, a
pop up box appears. Look at the pop up box and you'll see the path it's my
websitename/index_file/location name.jpg. So in order for those images to
appear I need to put them in the index file. I will take your suggestion and
put the underscore in to see if it makes any difference. Thanks
"Mike Koewler" wrote:

> Those links are to anchors that appear to be in the map. They are not
> web pages, per se. I have seen some programs that complain that spaces,
> such as Read Here1 are not valid anchor names, that you need something
> like Read_Here1.
>
> Mike
>
> ladalang wrote:
>

Mike Koewler

2007-03-30, 7:16 pm

Mary,

Since you are using a third party program (I presume) to create the
pop-ups, you may need to simply use a third-part FTP program (Filezilla,
Cute-FTP, or another one - there are several free ones on the Net) to
upload the files. I don't know how Network Places is supposed to work,
but I know it is a piece of cake to do with Filezilla.

Mike

ladalang wrote:
[color=darkred]
> You are correct the anchors just take you to the map, but when clicked on, a
> pop up box appears. Look at the pop up box and you'll see the path it's my
> websitename/index_file/location name.jpg. So in order for those images to
> appear I need to put them in the index file. I will take your suggestion and
> put the underscore in to see if it makes any difference. Thanks
> "Mike Koewler" wrote:
>
>

ladalang

2007-03-30, 7:16 pm

I'm using java script within Publisher. I'm still wanting to know where the
index_file folder is. We seem to be going off topic and not addressing the
question so here it is again:

In http Publishing where is the index_file folder? Regardless of what you
keep finding it isn't answering my question.

I did the underscore change and it messed up my page in a web preview, so
I'll have to change it back when I get time. I'm not looking for script
corrections I would just like to know where the index_file folder is. Can
anyone help?

Joyce

"Mike Koewler" wrote:

> Mary,
>
> Since you are using a third party program (I presume) to create the
> pop-ups, you may need to simply use a third-part FTP program (Filezilla,
> Cute-FTP, or another one - there are several free ones on the Net) to
> upload the files. I don't know how Network Places is supposed to work,
> but I know it is a piece of cake to do with Filezilla.
>
> Mike
>
> ladalang wrote:
>
>

DavidF

2007-03-30, 7:16 pm

It seems to me that you have two basic issues. The first is why you cannot
see the index_files folder. You also have said a couple things in this
thread that are confusing, so let's back up a second. What do you mean when
you say "I see the index.html file but I only see the attachments that I
have loaded on the server." First did you mean "index.htm" vs. "index.html".
Second, what do you mean by "attachments"? That is an email term, not a
webhost term.

Second question. You also state "I just went into my network places on my
computer and I have about 15 sites
all http all done in Publisher and they all are missing the index_file
folder." Are you saying that you have 15 different websites hosted on 15
different webhost accounts? Are they all with 1&1? Please clarify.

It appears that you are using 1&1 for your webhost. If you can see the
index.htm file when you log in to your host via Network Places, the
index_files folder should also be visible at the same level in the webhost
directory. Changing settings on your local computer should not change that.
If you can't see the index_files folder, then that is probably a webhost
issue, and might be a permissions issue. Contact 1&1 and ask them why you
cannot see the index_files subfolder on your root directory through network
places. Don't confuse them with too many facts. Just tell them that your
html output for your site consists of an index.htm file and an index_files
folder, and though you can see the index.htm file, you can't see the
index_files folder. Tell them you can see the folder through FTP, but not
Network Places. Ask them why, and what you have to do to change that. I
really don't think this is a local computer or Publisher issue...its a
server side issue, but if it isn't they should be able to tell you what
needs to be done.

You could also look through the documentation on your host to see what
setting needs to be changed to allow and see subfolders.

The second issue involves the javascript you are using, that is looking to
the index_files folder for the images. As I said once before, I don't think
you want to put the images that are required for the javascript in the
index_files folder. Every time you upload new html output from Publisher
after editing the site, the index_files folder can be overwritten. If that
happens then you would have to upload the javascript images again. You
should consider uploading your javascript images to a separate subfolder,
perhaps called "images", and rewrite the script to point to that subfolder,
not the index_files folder. But do as you will...good luck.

DavidF

"ladalang" <ladalang@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:37BDE010-0769-4536-9C36-BD09A2BA6CA6@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
> I'm using java script within Publisher. I'm still wanting to know where
> the
> index_file folder is. We seem to be going off topic and not addressing
> the
> question so here it is again:
>
> In http Publishing where is the index_file folder? Regardless of what you
> keep finding it isn't answering my question.
>
> I did the underscore change and it messed up my page in a web preview, so
> I'll have to change it back when I get time. I'm not looking for script
> corrections I would just like to know where the index_file folder is. Can
> anyone help?
>
> Joyce
>
>
>
> "Mike Koewler" wrote:
>

Mike Koewler

2007-03-30, 7:16 pm

Joyce,

I was not going off topic. I don't know why you cannot see an
index_files folder in Your Network Places. I do know your links are
pointing to images in your root folder, not/index_files. I know you have
an /index_files folder, as it shows in the URL. I know that if you use
an FTP program and have permission to upload to any folder on your
server (or in your domain), you can upload the images to the
/index_files folder. I know they will work if you do that. I don't know
if the next time you update the site if the /index_file will be
overwritten - David suggests it might be, which would mean uploading the
images again. As David says, it would seem to be much easier to rewrite
your script so the links do not point to your /index_files folder.

Mike

ladalang wrote:
[color=darkred]
> I'm using java script within Publisher. I'm still wanting to know where the
> index_file folder is. We seem to be going off topic and not addressing the
> question so here it is again:
>
> In http Publishing where is the index_file folder? Regardless of what you
> keep finding it isn't answering my question.
>
> I did the underscore change and it messed up my page in a web preview, so
> I'll have to change it back when I get time. I'm not looking for script
> corrections I would just like to know where the index_file folder is. Can
> anyone help?
>
> Joyce
>
>
>
> "Mike Koewler" wrote:
>
>

DavidF

2007-03-30, 7:16 pm

Mike,

She also is using a form on her site, which means she shouldn't use the FTP
uploading protocol, and has to use HTTP. Otherwise she is likely to corrupt
the FPSE and her forms won't work.

DavidF

"Mike Koewler" <wordwiz@fuse.net> wrote in message
news:3fa4f$460d231f$453d95d5$27323@FUSE.NET...[color=darkred]
> Joyce,
>
> I was not going off topic. I don't know why you cannot see an index_files
> folder in Your Network Places. I do know your links are pointing to images
> in your root folder, not/index_files. I know you have an /index_files
> folder, as it shows in the URL. I know that if you use an FTP program and
> have permission to upload to any folder on your server (or in your
> domain), you can upload the images to the /index_files folder. I know they
> will work if you do that. I don't know if the next time you update the
> site if the /index_file will be overwritten - David suggests it might be,
> which would mean uploading the images again. As David says, it would seem
> to be much easier to rewrite your script so the links do not point to your
> /index_files folder.
>
> Mike
>
> ladalang wrote:
>

Mike Koewler

2007-03-30, 7:16 pm

David,

Okay!? But how will using FTP to upload "only" the images interfere with
anything? They are going into a different folder, unless Pub keeps a
manifest file and it reports byte size of the entire folder to see if
anything has changed.

But as long as you are teaching me about how Pub works - if one
publishes to disk - the hard drive, then uploads the entire folder, with
the sub-folders, etc., how does it change anything? I did a very, very
basic site in Pub, published it to disk, then used Filezilla to upload
and it seemed to work. True, no forms, js or anything else. When it
publishes it to the web rather than using an FTP program to upload the
disk copy, does it somehow change some coding?

Main Folder
|
-- Index_files
|
--1.jpg
2.jpg
If I upload Main Folder and all it's contents, would the result be the
same as publishing to the server?

I don't think I'll ever understand this program!

Mike

DavidF wrote:
> Mike,
>
> She also is using a form on her site, which means she shouldn't use the FTP
> uploading protocol, and has to use HTTP. Otherwise she is likely to corrupt
> the FPSE and her forms won't work.
>
> DavidF
>
> "Mike Koewler" <wordwiz@fuse.net> wrote in message
> news:3fa4f$460d231f$453d95d5$27323@FUSE.NET...
>
>
>

DavidF

2007-03-30, 11:17 pm

Hi Mike,

Good questions, that I can't adequately answer. I am speaking from theory,
and from what I have read and been told, not personal experience. I use FTP.
I don't use forms, but in Publisher their functionality is dependent upon
FPSE, unless you use other server side programs. It is my understanding that
if you are using FPSE and you use FTP uploading they "can" become corrupt.
Why? I don't know. Maybe Rob or Mary, or someone else, could explain better
given their experience with FrontPage.

Here are my primary references: Publisher web publication forms 101:
http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/a...1/07/80564.aspx
How to publish a Publisher web in HTTP:
http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/pages/80557.aspx

Publisher does have the option of incremental uploading. Its under Tools >
Options > Web Tab in Pub 2003.

Sorry that I can't answer your questions more completely.

DavidF

"Mike Koewler" <wordwiz@fuse.net> wrote in message
news:e492a$460d77e2$453d95d5$6292@FUSE.NET...[color=darkred]
> David,
>
> Okay!? But how will using FTP to upload "only" the images interfere with
> anything? They are going into a different folder, unless Pub keeps a
> manifest file and it reports byte size of the entire folder to see if
> anything has changed.
>
> But as long as you are teaching me about how Pub works - if one publishes
> to disk - the hard drive, then uploads the entire folder, with the
> sub-folders, etc., how does it change anything? I did a very, very basic
> site in Pub, published it to disk, then used Filezilla to upload and it
> seemed to work. True, no forms, js or anything else. When it publishes it
> to the web rather than using an FTP program to upload the disk copy, does
> it somehow change some coding?
>
> Main Folder
> |
> -- Index_files
> |
> --1.jpg
> 2.jpg
> If I upload Main Folder and all it's contents, would the result be the
> same as publishing to the server?
>
> I don't think I'll ever understand this program!
>
> Mike
>
> DavidF wrote:

ladalang

2007-03-31, 7:17 pm

No, I have found that naming the file index.html as apposed to index.htm (the
default Microsoft names it) works better with different browsers. So I am
talking about index.html.

I have pdf's and documents that are linked on my site. I'm using the server
to hold them rather than using a file host such as Ripway for example.
Whatever they are called, they are files that are connected to my hyperlinks
on the page.

"Are you saying that you have 15 different websites hosted on 15
different webhost accounts? Are they all with 1&1? Please clarify."

Yes, it appears you understand.

I didn't even think to blame the webhost for not seeing the index_files
folder. But I will call them on that.

I agree I don't want to place the files in the index_folder every time I
make changes. But I can't find in the script where it directs the images
there so I can't change my script to point to a different place. I don't
think I have a choice. I have asked the author of the script this question
with no reply.

Thanks for your suggestions. All good ones.

"DavidF" wrote:

> It seems to me that you have two basic issues. The first is why you cannot
> see the index_files folder. You also have said a couple things in this
> thread that are confusing, so let's back up a second. What do you mean when
> you say "I see the index.html file but I only see the attachments that I
> have loaded on the server." First did you mean "index.htm" vs. "index.html".
> Second, what do you mean by "attachments"? That is an email term, not a
> webhost term.
>
> Second question. You also state "I just went into my network places on my
> computer and I have about 15 sites
> all http all done in Publisher and they all are missing the index_file
> folder." Are you saying that you have 15 different websites hosted on 15
> different webhost accounts? Are they all with 1&1? Please clarify.
>
> It appears that you are using 1&1 for your webhost. If you can see the
> index.htm file when you log in to your host via Network Places, the
> index_files folder should also be visible at the same level in the webhost
> directory. Changing settings on your local computer should not change that.
> If you can't see the index_files folder, then that is probably a webhost
> issue, and might be a permissions issue. Contact 1&1 and ask them why you
> cannot see the index_files subfolder on your root directory through network
> places. Don't confuse them with too many facts. Just tell them that your
> html output for your site consists of an index.htm file and an index_files
> folder, and though you can see the index.htm file, you can't see the
> index_files folder. Tell them you can see the folder through FTP, but not
> Network Places. Ask them why, and what you have to do to change that. I
> really don't think this is a local computer or Publisher issue...its a
> server side issue, but if it isn't they should be able to tell you what
> needs to be done.
>
> You could also look through the documentation on your host to see what
> setting needs to be changed to allow and see subfolders.
>
> The second issue involves the javascript you are using, that is looking to
> the index_files folder for the images. As I said once before, I don't think
> you want to put the images that are required for the javascript in the
> index_files folder. Every time you upload new html output from Publisher
> after editing the site, the index_files folder can be overwritten. If that
> happens then you would have to upload the javascript images again. You
> should consider uploading your javascript images to a separate subfolder,
> perhaps called "images", and rewrite the script to point to that subfolder,
> not the index_files folder. But do as you will...good luck.
>
> DavidF
>
> "ladalang" <ladalang@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:37BDE010-0769-4536-9C36-BD09A2BA6CA6@microsoft.com...
>
>
>

Mike Koewler

2007-03-31, 7:17 pm

David,

I was getting ready to reply last night when my unfriendly headaches
paid a visit. Five hours of agony (along with about 20 pills later) I
went to bed. So here is what I read.

Hyper Text Transfer Protocol, or HTTP, is a protocol used to transfer
files from a Web server onto a browser in order to view a Web
page that is on the Internet. Unlike FTP, where entire files are
transferred from one device to another and copied into memory, HTTP only
transfers the contents of a web page into a browser for viewing. I read
David's articles and there does not appear to be any reason why
uploading a "Published" site via ftp is any different from uploading it
any other way. Even going through Publisher and publishing directly to
the web still employs, AFAICS, a File Transfer, moving files from a hard
drive to a web server. The difference, again AFAICS, is that until one
tells Pub top actually, er, Publish the site, it does not create the
htm(l) files nor the links. However, if one can Publish to disk, those
files are created. Then, it is a simple matter of transferring them to
the server. Perhaps the reason for recommending doing it all within Pub
is so users will not become confused with how to upload files in
sub-folders.

For instance, WebPlus uses a main folder for all the html pages as well
as some other files that are named by the designer. Images WP creates
some images and scripts. These images are stored in a _wp_images folder
and the scripts in a _wp_scripts folder. All the files "and the folders
they are in" have to be uploaded or transfered.

In reading what FPSE do, it seems they write the virtual links to
different folders as well as set permissions. Perhaps this is why the
pages must be uploaded via the program if one is using forms - certain
files must have read/write permissions in order to process form data and
relay it to the recipient. I don't know if this happens when publishing
to a disk drive or not. Yet, none of this would preclude one from from
uploading an image and setting a hyperlink to it. Much as we have
discussed, this would be an absolute link
(http://yourdomain.com/yourimage.jpg) rather than a relative one ('your
image.jpg' or even '/index_files/yourimage.jpg')

Of course, none of this addresses why Joyce cannot see her index_files
folder but then again, it's not really necessary she be able to, from
what I understand. That would only become a necessity if she was going
to use FTP to transfer the images.

Mike

DavidF wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> Good questions, that I can't adequately answer. I am speaking from theory,
> and from what I have read and been told, not personal experience. I use FTP.
> I don't use forms, but in Publisher their functionality is dependent upon
> FPSE, unless you use other server side programs. It is my understanding that
> if you are using FPSE and you use FTP uploading they "can" become corrupt.
> Why? I don't know. Maybe Rob or Mary, or someone else, could explain better
> given their experience with FrontPage.
>
> Here are my primary references: Publisher web publication forms 101:
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/a...1/07/80564.aspx
> How to publish a Publisher web in HTTP:
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/pages/80557.aspx
>
> Publisher does have the option of incremental uploading. Its under Tools >
> Options > Web Tab in Pub 2003.
>
> Sorry that I can't answer your questions more completely.
>
> DavidF
>
> "Mike Koewler" <wordwiz@fuse.net> wrote in message
> news:e492a$460d77e2$453d95d5$6292@FUSE.NET...
>
>

ladalang

2007-03-31, 7:17 pm

First sorry about your headache, they suck.

I understand what you are saying but one distinct difference in ftp vs. http
is that you have to save your Publisher file as index.html. Once that's
done, the index_files folder is created right next to it. Then you have to
copy and paste both the index.html and index_files folder on to the ftp
server. And this must be done each time a change is made. With Http, you
click the publish to the web icon and open up my network places. you type in
the httpwww address and the user id and password box pops up. once in it
automatically puts index.htm (I always add l) as the name and you save.
Updates are down by overwriting the index file every time you make changes.
Now I have noticed while it's publishing, in the progess window it will say
its loading the index.html and then the index_files folder. But I still
never see that folder as visible on the server. I have a call into my host
but who knows when I will get a response. I have a feeling they will tell me
it's a Microsoft issue and I will never have an answer. meanwhile I've been
looking at that script and can't find a way to redirect it to just the
server. I had to load a pimg.htm file on. I have no idea what that does but
when you click on the map areas and the pop up window opens it's at the end
of the webpage string.

I just wanted an interactive map that gives a close up of the area.

"Mike Koewler" wrote:

> David,
>
> I was getting ready to reply last night when my unfriendly headaches
> paid a visit. Five hours of agony (along with about 20 pills later) I
> went to bed. So here is what I read.
>
> Hyper Text Transfer Protocol, or HTTP, is a protocol used to transfer
> files from a Web server onto a browser in order to view a Web
> page that is on the Internet. Unlike FTP, where entire files are
> transferred from one device to another and copied into memory, HTTP only
> transfers the contents of a web page into a browser for viewing. I read
> David's articles and there does not appear to be any reason why
> uploading a "Published" site via ftp is any different from uploading it
> any other way. Even going through Publisher and publishing directly to
> the web still employs, AFAICS, a File Transfer, moving files from a hard
> drive to a web server. The difference, again AFAICS, is that until one
> tells Pub top actually, er, Publish the site, it does not create the
> htm(l) files nor the links. However, if one can Publish to disk, those
> files are created. Then, it is a simple matter of transferring them to
> the server. Perhaps the reason for recommending doing it all within Pub
> is so users will not become confused with how to upload files in
> sub-folders.
>
> For instance, WebPlus uses a main folder for all the html pages as well
> as some other files that are named by the designer. Images WP creates
> some images and scripts. These images are stored in a _wp_images folder
> and the scripts in a _wp_scripts folder. All the files "and the folders
> they are in" have to be uploaded or transfered.
>
> In reading what FPSE do, it seems they write the virtual links to
> different folders as well as set permissions. Perhaps this is why the
> pages must be uploaded via the program if one is using forms - certain
> files must have read/write permissions in order to process form data and
> relay it to the recipient. I don't know if this happens when publishing
> to a disk drive or not. Yet, none of this would preclude one from from
> uploading an image and setting a hyperlink to it. Much as we have
> discussed, this would be an absolute link
> (http://yourdomain.com/yourimage.jpg) rather than a relative one ('your
> image.jpg' or even '/index_files/yourimage.jpg')
>
> Of course, none of this addresses why Joyce cannot see her index_files
> folder but then again, it's not really necessary she be able to, from
> what I understand. That would only become a necessity if she was going
> to use FTP to transfer the images.
>
> Mike
>
> DavidF wrote:
>

ladalang

2007-03-31, 7:17 pm

I'm on hold now with the host company and they are saying the root directory
is the index_files folder. That the index_files folder contains the
index.html file. But I don't believe this because the index_files folder
in ftp contains all the images used on the site. I don't see any of those.
Those images have to be somewhere. I know how crucial this is because in ftp
if you forget to load the new index_files the site will have missing images.
They work very closely together. Plus if I load the pop up map I see this
web address:

http://www.marchchoward.com/index_files/pmg.htm

I can't figure out where I would place those images, I assumed the
index_files folder.

"ladalang" wrote:
[color=darkred]
> First sorry about your headache, they suck.
>
> I understand what you are saying but one distinct difference in ftp vs. http
> is that you have to save your Publisher file as index.html. Once that's
> done, the index_files folder is created right next to it. Then you have to
> copy and paste both the index.html and index_files folder on to the ftp
> server. And this must be done each time a change is made. With Http, you
> click the publish to the web icon and open up my network places. you type in
> the httpwww address and the user id and password box pops up. once in it
> automatically puts index.htm (I always add l) as the name and you save.
> Updates are down by overwriting the index file every time you make changes.
> Now I have noticed while it's publishing, in the progess window it will say
> its loading the index.html and then the index_files folder. But I still
> never see that folder as visible on the server. I have a call into my host
> but who knows when I will get a response. I have a feeling they will tell me
> it's a Microsoft issue and I will never have an answer. meanwhile I've been
> looking at that script and can't find a way to redirect it to just the
> server. I had to load a pimg.htm file on. I have no idea what that does but
> when you click on the map areas and the pop up window opens it's at the end
> of the webpage string.
>
> I just wanted an interactive map that gives a close up of the area.
>
>
>
> "Mike Koewler" wrote:
>

Mike Koewler

2007-03-31, 7:17 pm

Joyce,

You are correct about having to update things each time, to a point.
What I was saying... if... you cannot find the index_files folder via
the My Network Places but you can see it via an ftp program, upload
"only" your map images to it. Unless Pub deletes files it has not
uploaded, they will stay in that folder forever. Pub is writing the
links to that folder, so that won't change either. In other words, this
is not the "answer" but it is a solution.

I do something similar every week. I maintain a few different sites and
one of them uses a lot of large files - a weekly bulletin and sermon. I
can go through the program, attach the files via a link (and create the
link) and let the program publish everything. But in time, it starts
taking a large amount of time to verify all the files are on the server,
that they haven't changed sizes, etc. So I create a hyperlink to some
text with a link pointing the the file. I ftp the file (they are between
2-5 megs) and then publish the site.

What script are you using to create the pop-ups? It might be as easy to
suss out how to change the links it writes than figure out how 1and1 is
behaving (I've seen lots of problems from users who have 1and1 as their
host).

Mike

ladalang wrote:
[color=darkred]
> First sorry about your headache, they suck.
>
> I understand what you are saying but one distinct difference in ftp vs. http
> is that you have to save your Publisher file as index.html. Once that's
> done, the index_files folder is created right next to it. Then you have to
> copy and paste both the index.html and index_files folder on to the ftp
> server. And this must be done each time a change is made. With Http, you
> click the publish to the web icon and open up my network places. you type in
> the httpwww address and the user id and password box pops up. once in it
> automatically puts index.htm (I always add l) as the name and you save.
> Updates are down by overwriting the index file every time you make changes.
> Now I have noticed while it's publishing, in the progess window it will say
> its loading the index.html and then the index_files folder. But I still
> never see that folder as visible on the server. I have a call into my host
> but who knows when I will get a response. I have a feeling they will tell me
> it's a Microsoft issue and I will never have an answer. meanwhile I've been
> looking at that script and can't find a way to redirect it to just the
> server. I had to load a pimg.htm file on. I have no idea what that does but
> when you click on the map areas and the pop up window opens it's at the end
> of the webpage string.
>
> I just wanted an interactive map that gives a close up of the area.
>
>
>
> "Mike Koewler" wrote:
>
>

ladalang

2007-03-31, 7:17 pm

http://www.crays.com/jsc/jsPImgHow.htm
here is the link to the script. It sounds like you are saying use ftp and
http. I can't do that, one or the other with 1and1.

"Mike Koewler" wrote:

> Joyce,
>
> You are correct about having to update things each time, to a point.
> What I was saying... if... you cannot find the index_files folder via
> the My Network Places but you can see it via an ftp program, upload
> "only" your map images to it. Unless Pub deletes files it has not
> uploaded, they will stay in that folder forever. Pub is writing the
> links to that folder, so that won't change either. In other words, this
> is not the "answer" but it is a solution.
>
> I do something similar every week. I maintain a few different sites and
> one of them uses a lot of large files - a weekly bulletin and sermon. I
> can go through the program, attach the files via a link (and create the
> link) and let the program publish everything. But in time, it starts
> taking a large amount of time to verify all the files are on the server,
> that they haven't changed sizes, etc. So I create a hyperlink to some
> text with a link pointing the the file. I ftp the file (they are between
> 2-5 megs) and then publish the site.
>
> What script are you using to create the pop-ups? It might be as easy to
> suss out how to change the links it writes than figure out how 1and1 is
> behaving (I've seen lots of problems from users who have 1and1 as their
> host).
>
> Mike
>
> ladalang wrote:
>
>

Mike Koewler

2007-03-31, 7:17 pm

Joyce,

Using ftp aside (you actually can, but you would have to do it outside
of Pub), try this.

In the script where it says:
<IMG SRC=name_of_thumbnail_file ALT=alt_text></A>

use <IMG SRC=http://www.marychoward.com/kelley.jpg></A> Basically, you
are giving the absolute address of the image, not the relative one.
Since that is where your image is at, it should display.

Let us know if this works.

Mike

ladalang wrote:
[color=darkred]
> http://www.crays.com/jsc/jsPImgHow.htm
> here is the link to the script. It sounds like you are saying use ftp and
> http. I can't do that, one or the other with 1and1.
>
> "Mike Koewler" wrote:
>
>

ladalang

2007-03-31, 7:17 pm

Wow Mike that is awesome. I'll try it and let you know!

"Mike Koewler" wrote:
[color=darkred]
> Joyce,
>
> Using ftp aside (you actually can, but you would have to do it outside
> of Pub), try this.
>
> In the script where it says:
> <IMG SRC=name_of_thumbnail_file ALT=alt_text></A>
>
> use <IMG SRC=http://www.marychoward.com/kelley.jpg></A> Basically, you
> are giving the absolute address of the image, not the relative one.
> Since that is where your image is at, it should display.
>
> Let us know if this works.
>
> Mike
>
> ladalang wrote:
>

Mike Koewler

2007-03-31, 11:16 pm

Keeping my fingers crossed!

Mike

ladalang wrote:
[color=darkred]
> Wow Mike that is awesome. I'll try it and let you know!
>
> "Mike Koewler" wrote:
>
>

DavidF

2007-03-31, 11:16 pm

Mike,

Here is hoping you are finished with your headaches for a while...

I found a reference about FPSE that does a pretty good job of explaining how
they work, and seems to be saying that you are partially correct. You can
use FTP to folders that you did not upload to using HTTP with the FPSE. In
the OPs case, she could upload her images to a separate folder (such as
"images") than the index_files folder that is produced by Publisher, without
corrupting the FPSE. She could continue to upload the rest of her site using
HTTP and thus preserve the functionality of her forms. Or at least that is
how I am interpreting it. This is about half way down the page:

"If you have used FrontPage / Dreamweaver to publish your files to a
particular folder, you should NEVER use regular FTP to upload your files to
the same folder. The reason for this is that it might damage the Frontpage
Server Extensions. However, you can use FTP to upload files to a different
folder from the one in which you have published through FrontPage /
Dreamweaver"

http://cp.stargate.com/kb/servlet/K...et/faq1143.html

What do you think?

I also found it interesting to read again that Microsoft has discontinued
support for FPSE for Linux Servers. They are moving away from FPSE.

I have some ideas about the mysterious disappearing index_files folder, but
that will have to wait until tomorrow.

Be well...

DavidF

"Mike Koewler" <wordwiz@fuse.net> wrote in message
news:73edc$460e885c$453d95d5$4470@FUSE.NET...[color=darkred]
> David,
>
> I was getting ready to reply last night when my unfriendly headaches paid
> a visit. Five hours of agony (along with about 20 pills later) I went to
> bed. So here is what I read.
>
> Hyper Text Transfer Protocol, or HTTP, is a protocol used to transfer
> files from a Web server onto a browser in order to view a Web page
> that is on the Internet. Unlike FTP, where entire files are transferred
> from one device to another and copied into memory, HTTP only transfers the
> contents of a web page into a browser for viewing. I read David's articles
> and there does not appear to be any reason why uploading a "Published"
> site via ftp is any different from uploading it any other way. Even going
> through Publisher and publishing directly to the web still employs,
> AFAICS, a File Transfer, moving files from a hard drive to a web server.
> The difference, again AFAICS, is that until one tells Pub top actually,
> er, Publish the site, it does not create the htm(l) files nor the links.
> However, if one can Publish to disk, those files are created. Then, it is
> a simple matter of transferring them to the server. Perhaps the reason for
> recommending doing it all within Pub is so users will not become confused
> with how to upload files in sub-folders.
>
> For instance, WebPlus uses a main folder for all the html pages as well as
> some other files that are named by the designer. Images WP creates some
> images and scripts. These images are stored in a _wp_images folder and the
> scripts in a _wp_scripts folder. All the files "and the folders they are
> in" have to be uploaded or transfered.
>
> In reading what FPSE do, it seems they write the virtual links to
> different folders as well as set permissions. Perhaps this is why the
> pages must be uploaded via the program if one is using forms - certain
> files must have read/write permissions in order to process form data and
> relay it to the recipient. I don't know if this happens when publishing to
> a disk drive or not. Yet, none of this would preclude one from from
> uploading an image and setting a hyperlink to it. Much as we have
> discussed, this would be an absolute link
> (http://yourdomain.com/yourimage.jpg) rather than a relative one ('your
> image.jpg' or even '/index_files/yourimage.jpg')
>
> Of course, none of this addresses why Joyce cannot see her index_files
> folder but then again, it's not really necessary she be able to, from what
> I understand. That would only become a necessity if she was going to use
> FTP to transfer the images.
>
> Mike
>
> DavidF wrote:

Mike Koewler

2007-04-01, 3:15 am

David,

That's how I would "logically" presume things would work. I would even
go so far as to wager one could upload some files, such as images that
are not directly referenced in the Pub created code (such as using a
link to "An Internet Page" rather than a "Page in your site" or images
referenced in js) without affecting other files. Of course, I would only
try this one time, on a site that wasn't real important. In fact, I was
going to try to add the Extensions to my site, but it would destroy the
htaccess files and it really didn't seem worth trying it. Besides, if
Joyce provides absolute links in her js, that should work.

I wish I could say the headaches have completely left the building.
Unfortunately, they withdrew to a closet to regroup and fortify
themselves. They hit like a ton of bricks last night. One moment I'm
feeling great, on top of the world, happier than I've been in more than
a month. Ten minutes later, I was in agony, pure agony. It lasted for
300 minutes, 18,000 seconds. Vicodin and Tylenol 3, even combined with
alcohol, ibuprofen, aspirin, HeadOn and anything else I could find did
next to nothing. Okay, I didn't feel like laying in front of freight
train, but I did want to put my head in a vise. By 3am, I was able to
fall asleep or pass out. They hit again this evening, at about 7 pm, but
so far I haven't needed much medicine to keep them at bay. The key is to
knock them out before they get started. That's a window of about 90
seconds to recognize they are indeed a cluster headache and take the
Tylenol or Vicodin.

Mike

DavidF wrote:
> Mike,
>
> Here is hoping you are finished with your headaches for a while...
>
> I found a reference about FPSE that does a pretty good job of explaining how
> they work, and seems to be saying that you are partially correct. You can
> use FTP to folders that you did not upload to using HTTP with the FPSE. In
> the OPs case, she could upload her images to a separate folder (such as
> "images") than the index_files folder that is produced by Publisher, without
> corrupting the FPSE. She could continue to upload the rest of her site using
> HTTP and thus preserve the functionality of her forms. Or at least that is
> how I am interpreting it. This is about half way down the page:
>
> "If you have used FrontPage / Dreamweaver to publish your files to a
> particular folder, you should NEVER use regular FTP to upload your files to
> the same folder. The reason for this is that it might damage the Frontpage
> Server Extensions. However, you can use FTP to upload files to a different
> folder from the one in which you have published through FrontPage /
> Dreamweaver"
>
> http://cp.stargate.com/kb/servlet/K...et/faq1143.html
>
> What do you think?
>
> I also found it interesting to read again that Microsoft has discontinued
> support for FPSE for Linux Servers. They are moving away from FPSE.
>
> I have some ideas about the mysterious disappearing index_files folder, but
> that will have to wait until tomorrow.
>
> Be well...
>
> DavidF
>
> "Mike Koewler" <wordwiz@fuse.net> wrote in message
> news:73edc$460e885c$453d95d5$4470@FUSE.NET...
>
>
>

DavidF

2007-04-01, 6:16 pm

Mike,

You could be right, but the way I read that article is that if you ftp to
the index_files folder, you "could" corrupt the FPSE. Seems to me that it
isn't worth the risk.

Bummer on the headaches...reminds me to count my blessings that I only have
the occasional migraine.

DavidF

"Mike Koewler" <wordwiz@fuse.net> wrote in message
news:61933$460f2464$453d95d5$11988@FUSE.NET...[color=darkred]
> David,
>
> That's how I would "logically" presume things would work. I would even go
> so far as to wager one could upload some files, such as images that are
> not directly referenced in the Pub created code (such as using a link to
> "An Internet Page" rather than a "Page in your site" or images referenced
> in js) without affecting other files. Of course, I would only try this one
> time, on a site that wasn't real important. In fact, I was going to try to
> add the Extensions to my site, but it would destroy the htaccess files and
> it really didn't seem worth trying it. Besides, if Joyce provides absolute
> links in her js, that should work.
>
> I wish I could say the headaches have completely left the building.
> Unfortunately, they withdrew to a closet to regroup and fortify
> themselves. They hit like a ton of bricks last night. One moment I'm
> feeling great, on top of the world, happier than I've been in more than a
> month. Ten minutes later, I was in agony, pure agony. It lasted for 300
> minutes, 18,000 seconds. Vicodin and Tylenol 3, even combined with
> alcohol, ibuprofen, aspirin, HeadOn and anything else I could find did
> next to nothing. Okay, I didn't feel like laying in front of freight
> train, but I did want to put my head in a vise. By 3am, I was able to fall
> asleep or pass out. They hit again this evening, at about 7 pm, but so far
> I haven't needed much medicine to keep them at bay. The key is to knock
> them out before they get started. That's a window of about 90 seconds to
> recognize they are indeed a cluster headache and take the Tylenol or
> Vicodin.
>
> Mike
>
> DavidF wrote:

DavidF

2007-04-01, 6:16 pm

I have a theory as to why you can't see your index_files folder. 1&1 appears
to name their home directory, or their root directory, "index_files" by
default. Try adding "/index_files" to your HTTP login path, or in other
words, create a new network place path to your home directory. Instead of
http://www.yourdomainname.com, write it as
http://www.yourdomainname.com/index_files (with an underscore between index
and files).

If you log in to your control panel, and if memory servers, go to domain
management and click on "destination" drop down arrows you should see "show
destination" and "edit destination". If you click on "show destination" you
should see a dialog that shows the Destination is your home directory. Under
home directory, click on existing directory, you should see probably two
options. One is "index_files" and the other is "/". I would guess that you
have chosen the first which would create confusion and potentially a
conflict with the Publisher folder with the same name. You may need to
change to the "/" as the default destination/existing directory, to get to
the point where you will see the Publisher folder "index_files" folder. That
would probably mean you would have to upload fresh external files and your
publisher files, but in the future you should be able to see the Publisher
index_files folder when you login via http. But as I said, you might also
just try changing or creating a new network place/ HTTP login path by adding
"/index_files", and make no changes in your setup on 1&1.

No guarantees but I think your issue might be around the use of the name
"index_files" for the home directory folder in 1&1. You should be able to
explore this via the control panel at 1&1 or maybe with your ftp client. If
you get the home directory name and the path to it sorted out, or you look
in the correct folder or place on the directory, then you should find the
Publisher index.html file and the index_files folder that Publisher
generates.

DavidF

"ladalang" <ladalang@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1D060E4E-5CA5-440A-8361-1DA6865FF8CA@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
> I'm on hold now with the host company and they are saying the root
> directory
> is the index_files folder. That the index_files folder contains the
> index.html file. But I don't believe this because the index_files
> folder
> in ftp contains all the images used on the site. I don't see any of
> those.
> Those images have to be somewhere. I know how crucial this is because in
> ftp
> if you forget to load the new index_files the site will have missing
> images.
> They work very closely together. Plus if I load the pop up map I see this
> web address:
>
> http://www.marchchoward.com/index_files/pmg.htm
>
> I can't figure out where I would place those images, I assumed the
> index_files folder.
>
> "ladalang" wrote:
>

ladalang

2007-04-01, 6:16 pm

Well it's an improvement, the thumbnails load, but the text showing which
little map it is, is gone. And the larger map which is the pop up, is still
going to the index _files folder. so the pop up doesn't yet work. I changed
the image name in the pop up script to show the exact location as the
thumbnail. I'm going to try the double quotes like in the thumbnail to see
if that changes anything.

take a look:
http://www.marychoward.com/index_fi...tml#READ%20HERE

"Mike Koewler" wrote:
[color=darkred]
> Keeping my fingers crossed!
>
> Mike
>
> ladalang wrote:
>

ladalang

2007-04-01, 6:16 pm

I had an idea. I saved my pub doc as an index.html on my desktop and it
generated the desired index_files folder. I copied my images into it and
manually pasted the whole folder onto the root directory. It said that an
index_files folder already existed did I want to replace it. I said yes and
now it's copying. I'm worried that the specifc order those images were in
will mess up my site. But I figured I can always overwrite the whole thing
by just saving the current site again. I hope I didn't really screw it up.
We will see. My worry too is that it will time out before it saves the whole
folder because it's taking so long.

I did confirm something, that folder is there but not visible.

"DavidF" wrote:
[color=darkred]
> Mike,
>
> You could be right, but the way I read that article is that if you ftp to
> the index_files folder, you "could" corrupt the FPSE. Seems to me that it
> isn't worth the risk.
>
> Bummer on the headaches...reminds me to count my blessings that I only have
> the occasional migraine.
>
> DavidF
>
> "Mike Koewler" <wordwiz@fuse.net> wrote in message
> news:61933$460f2464$453d95d5$11988@FUSE.NET...

DavidF

2007-04-03, 10:17 pm

I don't know if you saw my last post or not...this thread is becoming way
too long, so I thought I would repost it here:

I have a theory as to why you can't see your index_files folder. 1&1 appears
to name their home directory, or their root directory, "index_files" by
default. Try adding "/index_files" to your HTTP login path, or in other
words, create a new network place path to your home directory. Instead of
http://www.yourdomainname.com, write it as
http://www.yourdomainname.com/index_files (with an underscore between index
and files).

If you log in to your control panel, and if memory servers, go to domain
management and click on "destination" drop down arrows you should see "show
destination" and "edit destination". If you click on "show destination" you
should see a dialog that shows the Destination is your home directory. Under
home directory, click on existing directory, you should see probably two
options. One is "index_files" and the other is "/". I would guess that you
have chosen the first which would create confusion and potentially a
conflict with the Publisher folder with the same name. You may need to
change to the "/" as the default destination/existing directory, to get to
the point where you will see the Publisher folder "index_files" folder. That
would probably mean you would have to upload fresh external files and your
publisher files, but in the future you should be able to see the Publisher
index_files folder when you login via http. But as I said, you might also
just try changing or creating a new network place/ HTTP login path by adding
"/index_files", and make no changes in your setup on 1&1.

No guarantees but I think your issue might be around the use of the name
"index_files" for the home directory folder in 1&1. You should be able to
explore this via the control panel at 1&1 or maybe with your ftp client. If
you get the home directory name and the path to it sorted out, or you look
in the correct folder or place on the directory, then you should find the
Publisher index.html file and the index_files folder that Publisher
generates.

That ends the previous post, and I would probably rewrite it if I had time,
but perhaps it will lead you to a solution. I did have one question that you
may have answered before, but I don't see it in this thread. Which version
of IE are you using? I am now wondering if your issue of not being able to
see the folder has to do with you using IE7. Let me know, please. And if you
are, then check out the thread about IE7 Issue 4/2/07.

DavidF

"ladalang" <ladalang@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:38CB6DF7-0853-45FA-B078-181D175696F5@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>I had an idea. I saved my pub doc as an index.html on my desktop and it
> generated the desired index_files folder. I copied my images into it and
> manually pasted the whole folder onto the root directory. It said that an
> index_files folder already existed did I want to replace it. I said yes
> and
> now it's copying. I'm worried that the specifc order those images were in
> will mess up my site. But I figured I can always overwrite the whole
> thing
> by just saving the current site again. I hope I didn't really screw it
> up.
> We will see. My worry too is that it will time out before it saves the
> whole
> folder because it's taking so long.
>
> I did confirm something, that folder is there but not visible.
>
> "DavidF" wrote:
>

ladalang

2007-04-04, 6:19 pm

I'm using IE7, but it didn't show before 7 either.

"DavidF" wrote:
[color=darkred]
> I don't know if you saw my last post or not...this thread is becoming way
> too long, so I thought I would repost it here:
>
> I have a theory as to why you can't see your index_files folder. 1&1 appears
> to name their home directory, or their root directory, "index_files" by
> default. Try adding "/index_files" to your HTTP login path, or in other
> words, create a new network place path to your home directory. Instead of
> http://www.yourdomainname.com, write it as
> http://www.yourdomainname.com/index_files (with an underscore between index
> and files).
>
> If you log in to your control panel, and if memory servers, go to domain
> management and click on "destination" drop down arrows you should see "show
> destination" and "edit destination". If you click on "show destination" you
> should see a dialog that shows the Destination is your home directory. Under
> home directory, click on existing directory, you should see probably two
> options. One is "index_files" and the other is "/". I would guess that you
> have chosen the first which would create confusion and potentially a
> conflict with the Publisher folder with the same name. You may need to
> change to the "/" as the default destination/existing directory, to get to
> the point where you will see the Publisher folder "index_files" folder. That
> would probably mean you would have to upload fresh external files and your
> publisher files, but in the future you should be able to see the Publisher
> index_files folder when you login via http. But as I said, you might also
> just try changing or creating a new network place/ HTTP login path by adding
> "/index_files", and make no changes in your setup on 1&1.
>
> No guarantees but I think your issue might be around the use of the name
> "index_files" for the home directory folder in 1&1. You should be able to
> explore this via the control panel at 1&1 or maybe with your ftp client. If
> you get the home directory name and the path to it sorted out, or you look
> in the correct folder or place on the directory, then you should find the
> Publisher index.html file and the index_files folder that Publisher
> generates.
>
> That ends the previous post, and I would probably rewrite it if I had time,
> but perhaps it will lead you to a solution. I did have one question that you
> may have answered before, but I don't see it in this thread. Which version
> of IE are you using? I am now wondering if your issue of not being able to
> see the folder has to do with you using IE7. Let me know, please. And if you
> are, then check out the thread about IE7 Issue 4/2/07.
>
> DavidF
>
> "ladalang" <ladalang@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:38CB6DF7-0853-45FA-B078-181D175696F5@microsoft.com...