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| brelade 2007-02-02, 6:16 pm |
| I have down loaded JAlbum, and wish to insert in to my site.
How do i insert JAlbum, but still keeping my page layout, i.e Header & Nav
bar.
If JAlbum is the wrong type of photo gallery for this, can you recommend
another free programme, I just wish to insert it as a portion of the page.
Cheers
--
brelade
| |
| Rob Giordano \(Crash\) 2007-02-02, 6:16 pm |
| The only way to do this would be with frames, and Publisher doesn't support
frames (which are ugly anyway). JAlbum creates pages. Why not make JAlbums
pages match your existing page as much as possible then create a link to the
first index page of JAlbum...thats how I usually do it (but not with
Publisher - but it should work fine)
"brelade" <brelade@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BBC75047-8359-431D-93D6-25D6610A2AD0@microsoft.com...
|I have down loaded JAlbum, and wish to insert in to my site.
| How do i insert JAlbum, but still keeping my page layout, i.e Header & Nav
| bar.
|
| If JAlbum is the wrong type of photo gallery for this, can you recommend
| another free programme, I just wish to insert it as a portion of the page.
|
| Cheers
| --
| brelade
| |
| brelade 2007-02-02, 6:16 pm |
| Can you tell me how i do this, or you may be you will understand better the
instructions at JAlbum.
I have chosen this programme, as i have seen it mentioned many times before
in past threads.
JAlbum help page, say's you CAN intergrate the album in to an exsisting web
page, but it has mega confused me. http://jalbum.net/integrate.jsp
Cheers
--
brelade
"Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
> The only way to do this would be with frames, and Publisher doesn't support
> frames (which are ugly anyway). JAlbum creates pages. Why not make JAlbums
> pages match your existing page as much as possible then create a link to the
> first index page of JAlbum...thats how I usually do it (but not with
> Publisher - but it should work fine)
>
>
> "brelade" <brelade@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:BBC75047-8359-431D-93D6-25D6610A2AD0@microsoft.com...
> |I have down loaded JAlbum, and wish to insert in to my site.
> | How do i insert JAlbum, but still keeping my page layout, i.e Header & Nav
> | bar.
> |
> | If JAlbum is the wrong type of photo gallery for this, can you recommend
> | another free programme, I just wish to insert it as a portion of the page.
> |
> | Cheers
> | --
> | brelade
>
>
>
| |
| Rob Giordano \(Crash\) 2007-02-02, 10:15 pm |
| Not sure you'd be able to do it the way JAlbum suggests with a Publisher
web.
You'd have to somehow get the entire JAlbum album folder (the one you
created the album into on your hd) INTO your Publisher web folder then
Publish it...how?..not sure, since Publisher has it's own way of doing
things. It's easy with Frontpage or any other web builder I've used, but
I've not done it with Publisher webs.
You may have to wait for one of the other Publisher gurus to advise on this.
"brelade" <brelade@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6061155D-3309-4B88-A3A3-22E15F009DD8@microsoft.com...
| Can you tell me how i do this, or you may be you will understand better
the
| instructions at JAlbum.
|
| I have chosen this programme, as i have seen it mentioned many times
before
| in past threads.
|
| JAlbum help page, say's you CAN intergrate the album in to an exsisting
web
| page, but it has mega confused me. http://jalbum.net/integrate.jsp
| Cheers
| --
| brelade
|
|
| "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
|
| > The only way to do this would be with frames, and Publisher doesn't
support
| > frames (which are ugly anyway). JAlbum creates pages. Why not make
JAlbums
| > pages match your existing page as much as possible then create a link to
the
| > first index page of JAlbum...thats how I usually do it (but not with
| > Publisher - but it should work fine)
| >
| >
| > "brelade" <brelade@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > news:BBC75047-8359-431D-93D6-25D6610A2AD0@microsoft.com...
| > |I have down loaded JAlbum, and wish to insert in to my site.
| > | How do i insert JAlbum, but still keeping my page layout, i.e Header &
Nav
| > | bar.
| > |
| > | If JAlbum is the wrong type of photo gallery for this, can you
recommend
| > | another free programme, I just wish to insert it as a portion of the
page.
| > |
| > | Cheers
| > | --
| > | brelade
| >
| >
| >
| |
| DavidF 2007-02-02, 10:15 pm |
| Rob,
Actually I have recently discovered that the statement "Publisher doesn't
support frames" to not be totally true, though I have typed the same thing
many times on this group. After following the thread with you and Mike and
the poster that had converted his whole Publisher web site to frames, I have
found another exception to the rule.
You are correct that there is no built-in support for frames. You are also
correct that there are problems when web hosts frame Publisher websites,
especially if the sites use the wizard built menus with relative
links...they don't work. However, you can use iframes in a Publisher web
page by inserting the "proper" code into the page via the insert html code
fragment tool. I say "proper" cuz I don't pretend to understand the "proper"
way to write that code (or any code for that matter), but have had some
success with my testing. I also think you are correct in suggesting that the
best way is to link from your web page to the JAlbum, to insure the chance
of actually getting the album to load. And I am certainly not knowledgeable
enough to debate the use or the aesthetics of using frames or iframes...
However, for the benefit of Brelade, here is one way to incorporate JAlbums
into Publisher web pages. First create a subfolder on your site (I used
"Album" at the root), and upload the html output from JAlbum into that
subfolder. Then you can insert the following code snippet into your
Publisher page:
<IFRAME src=http://www.yourdomain.com/Album/"
width="700" height="600" hspace="0" vspace="0"
frameborder="0" scrolling="auto"></IFRAME>
Make your code fragment box the size you specify in the code fragment...in
this case 700x600, and you can change the size of the iframe depending on
what you want to see, by changing those dimensions in the code fragment.
I also have found in the past that some browsers have chocked when I tried
to import anything into a Publisher web page, so I also add another code
snippet right above the iframe code snippet:
<p><font face="Arial" size="3">
<a href="http://www.yourdomain.com/Album/"
onclick="NewWindow(this.href,'name','700','600','yes');return false">Click
Here - Your Photo Album</a> - If the photo album does not load properly
below, or you prefer to view the album in a new browser window. A new window
will open. Close when finished.<br>
This I believe is an alternative to consider by itself, if Brelade wants the
album to open in a new window, and was my attempt at giving the viewer a
"fail safe" option, in case the album didn't import and display properly in
the Publisher page.
Brelade, as I said, I am not a coder, so don't ask me how to fix any code or
troubleshoot why this doesn't work in your particular situation, but perhaps
it will give you a starting point. And don't ask me to interpret the
instructions given you on the JAlbum link you provided. I believe in trial
and terror as a learning process, so get in there and do some trials;-)
DavidF
"Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in message
news:elz00MxRHHA.2124@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> The only way to do this would be with frames, and Publisher doesn't
> support
> frames (which are ugly anyway). JAlbum creates pages. Why not make JAlbums
> pages match your existing page as much as possible then create a link to
> the
> first index page of JAlbum...thats how I usually do it (but not with
> Publisher - but it should work fine)
>
>
> "brelade" <brelade@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:BBC75047-8359-431D-93D6-25D6610A2AD0@microsoft.com...
> |I have down loaded JAlbum, and wish to insert in to my site.
> | How do i insert JAlbum, but still keeping my page layout, i.e Header &
> Nav
> | bar.
> |
> | If JAlbum is the wrong type of photo gallery for this, can you recommend
> | another free programme, I just wish to insert it as a portion of the
> page.
> |
> | Cheers
> | --
> | brelade
>
>
| |
| brelade 2007-02-02, 10:15 pm |
| Rob many thanks for your help & advice.
I will try and endevour to sort this out.
--
brelade
"Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
> Not sure you'd be able to do it the way JAlbum suggests with a Publisher
> web.
>
> You'd have to somehow get the entire JAlbum album folder (the one you
> created the album into on your hd) INTO your Publisher web folder then
> Publish it...how?..not sure, since Publisher has it's own way of doing
> things. It's easy with Frontpage or any other web builder I've used, but
> I've not done it with Publisher webs.
>
> You may have to wait for one of the other Publisher gurus to advise on this.
>
>
> "brelade" <brelade@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:6061155D-3309-4B88-A3A3-22E15F009DD8@microsoft.com...
> | Can you tell me how i do this, or you may be you will understand better
> the
> | instructions at JAlbum.
> |
> | I have chosen this programme, as i have seen it mentioned many times
> before
> | in past threads.
> |
> | JAlbum help page, say's you CAN intergrate the album in to an exsisting
> web
> | page, but it has mega confused me. http://jalbum.net/integrate.jsp
> | Cheers
> | --
> | brelade
> |
> |
> | "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
> |
> | > The only way to do this would be with frames, and Publisher doesn't
> support
> | > frames (which are ugly anyway). JAlbum creates pages. Why not make
> JAlbums
> | > pages match your existing page as much as possible then create a link to
> the
> | > first index page of JAlbum...thats how I usually do it (but not with
> | > Publisher - but it should work fine)
> | >
> | >
> | > "brelade" <brelade@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > news:BBC75047-8359-431D-93D6-25D6610A2AD0@microsoft.com...
> | > |I have down loaded JAlbum, and wish to insert in to my site.
> | > | How do i insert JAlbum, but still keeping my page layout, i.e Header &
> Nav
> | > | bar.
> | > |
> | > | If JAlbum is the wrong type of photo gallery for this, can you
> recommend
> | > | another free programme, I just wish to insert it as a portion of the
> page.
> | > |
> | > | Cheers
> | > | --
> | > | brelade
> | >
> | >
> | >
>
>
>
| |
| Rob Giordano \(Crash\) 2007-02-02, 10:15 pm |
| I'd be interested to see if it works!
"DavidF" <Nope@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:%231IuwXyRHHA.4252@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| Rob,
|
| Actually I have recently discovered that the statement "Publisher doesn't
| support frames" to not be totally true, though I have typed the same thing
| many times on this group. After following the thread with you and Mike and
| the poster that had converted his whole Publisher web site to frames, I
have
| found another exception to the rule.
|
| You are correct that there is no built-in support for frames. You are also
| correct that there are problems when web hosts frame Publisher websites,
| especially if the sites use the wizard built menus with relative
| links...they don't work. However, you can use iframes in a Publisher web
| page by inserting the "proper" code into the page via the insert html code
| fragment tool. I say "proper" cuz I don't pretend to understand the
"proper"
| way to write that code (or any code for that matter), but have had some
| success with my testing. I also think you are correct in suggesting that
the
| best way is to link from your web page to the JAlbum, to insure the chance
| of actually getting the album to load. And I am certainly not
knowledgeable
| enough to debate the use or the aesthetics of using frames or iframes...
|
| However, for the benefit of Brelade, here is one way to incorporate
JAlbums
| into Publisher web pages. First create a subfolder on your site (I used
| "Album" at the root), and upload the html output from JAlbum into that
| subfolder. Then you can insert the following code snippet into your
| Publisher page:
|
|
| <IFRAME src=http://www.yourdomain.com/Album/"
| width="700" height="600" hspace="0" vspace="0"
| frameborder="0" scrolling="auto"></IFRAME>
|
|
| Make your code fragment box the size you specify in the code fragment...in
| this case 700x600, and you can change the size of the iframe depending on
| what you want to see, by changing those dimensions in the code fragment.
|
| I also have found in the past that some browsers have chocked when I tried
| to import anything into a Publisher web page, so I also add another code
| snippet right above the iframe code snippet:
|
|
| <p><font face="Arial" size="3">
| <a href="http://www.yourdomain.com/Album/"
| onclick="NewWindow(this.href,'name','700','600','yes');return false">Click
| Here - Your Photo Album</a> - If the photo album does not load properly
| below, or you prefer to view the album in a new browser window. A new
window
| will open. Close when finished.<br>
|
|
| This I believe is an alternative to consider by itself, if Brelade wants
the
| album to open in a new window, and was my attempt at giving the viewer a
| "fail safe" option, in case the album didn't import and display properly
in
| the Publisher page.
|
| Brelade, as I said, I am not a coder, so don't ask me how to fix any code
or
| troubleshoot why this doesn't work in your particular situation, but
perhaps
| it will give you a starting point. And don't ask me to interpret the
| instructions given you on the JAlbum link you provided. I believe in trial
| and terror as a learning process, so get in there and do some trials;-)
|
| DavidF
|
| "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in message
| news:elz00MxRHHA.2124@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| > The only way to do this would be with frames, and Publisher doesn't
| > support
| > frames (which are ugly anyway). JAlbum creates pages. Why not make
JAlbums
| > pages match your existing page as much as possible then create a link to
| > the
| > first index page of JAlbum...thats how I usually do it (but not with
| > Publisher - but it should work fine)
| >
| >
| > "brelade" <brelade@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > news:BBC75047-8359-431D-93D6-25D6610A2AD0@microsoft.com...
| > |I have down loaded JAlbum, and wish to insert in to my site.
| > | How do i insert JAlbum, but still keeping my page layout, i.e Header &
| > Nav
| > | bar.
| > |
| > | If JAlbum is the wrong type of photo gallery for this, can you
recommend
| > | another free programme, I just wish to insert it as a portion of the
| > page.
| > |
| > | Cheers
| > | --
| > | brelade
| >
| >
|
|
| |
| DavidF 2007-02-02, 10:15 pm |
| It does in at least three cases on my site...knock on wood ;-) I have tested
it in Pub 2000 and 2003 so far...
DavidF
"Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in message
news:Ot7WqgyRHHA.4832@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> I'd be interested to see if it works!
>
>
>
> "DavidF" <Nope@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:%231IuwXyRHHA.4252@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | Rob,
> |
> | Actually I have recently discovered that the statement "Publisher
> doesn't
> | support frames" to not be totally true, though I have typed the same
> thing
> | many times on this group. After following the thread with you and Mike
> and
> | the poster that had converted his whole Publisher web site to frames, I
> have
> | found another exception to the rule.
> |
> | You are correct that there is no built-in support for frames. You are
> also
> | correct that there are problems when web hosts frame Publisher websites,
> | especially if the sites use the wizard built menus with relative
> | links...they don't work. However, you can use iframes in a Publisher web
> | page by inserting the "proper" code into the page via the insert html
> code
> | fragment tool. I say "proper" cuz I don't pretend to understand the
> "proper"
> | way to write that code (or any code for that matter), but have had some
> | success with my testing. I also think you are correct in suggesting that
> the
> | best way is to link from your web page to the JAlbum, to insure the
> chance
> | of actually getting the album to load. And I am certainly not
> knowledgeable
> | enough to debate the use or the aesthetics of using frames or iframes...
> |
> | However, for the benefit of Brelade, here is one way to incorporate
> JAlbums
> | into Publisher web pages. First create a subfolder on your site (I used
> | "Album" at the root), and upload the html output from JAlbum into that
> | subfolder. Then you can insert the following code snippet into your
> | Publisher page:
> |
> |
> | <IFRAME src=http://www.yourdomain.com/Album/"
> | width="700" height="600" hspace="0" vspace="0"
> | frameborder="0" scrolling="auto"></IFRAME>
> |
> |
> | Make your code fragment box the size you specify in the code
> fragment...in
> | this case 700x600, and you can change the size of the iframe depending
> on
> | what you want to see, by changing those dimensions in the code fragment.
> |
> | I also have found in the past that some browsers have chocked when I
> tried
> | to import anything into a Publisher web page, so I also add another code
> | snippet right above the iframe code snippet:
> |
> |
> | <p><font face="Arial" size="3">
> | <a href="http://www.yourdomain.com/Album/"
> | onclick="NewWindow(this.href,'name','700','600','yes');return
> false">Click
> | Here - Your Photo Album</a> - If the photo album does not load properly
> | below, or you prefer to view the album in a new browser window. A new
> window
> | will open. Close when finished.<br>
> |
> |
> | This I believe is an alternative to consider by itself, if Brelade wants
> the
> | album to open in a new window, and was my attempt at giving the viewer a
> | "fail safe" option, in case the album didn't import and display properly
> in
> | the Publisher page.
> |
> | Brelade, as I said, I am not a coder, so don't ask me how to fix any
> code
> or
> | troubleshoot why this doesn't work in your particular situation, but
> perhaps
> | it will give you a starting point. And don't ask me to interpret the
> | instructions given you on the JAlbum link you provided. I believe in
> trial
> | and terror as a learning process, so get in there and do some trials;-)
> |
> | DavidF
> |
> | "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in
> message
> | news:elz00MxRHHA.2124@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> | > The only way to do this would be with frames, and Publisher doesn't
> | > support
> | > frames (which are ugly anyway). JAlbum creates pages. Why not make
> JAlbums
> | > pages match your existing page as much as possible then create a link
> to
> | > the
> | > first index page of JAlbum...thats how I usually do it (but not with
> | > Publisher - but it should work fine)
> | >
> | >
> | > "brelade" <brelade@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > news:BBC75047-8359-431D-93D6-25D6610A2AD0@microsoft.com...
> | > |I have down loaded JAlbum, and wish to insert in to my site.
> | > | How do i insert JAlbum, but still keeping my page layout, i.e Header
> &
> | > Nav
> | > | bar.
> | > |
> | > | If JAlbum is the wrong type of photo gallery for this, can you
> recommend
> | > | another free programme, I just wish to insert it as a portion of the
> | > page.
> | > |
> | > | Cheers
> | > | --
> | > | brelade
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>
| |
| MIchaeldane 2007-02-02, 10:15 pm |
| I've been following this dialog concerning JAlbum and IFrames. I use JAlbum
with my web site, the album being linked from my site to a folder on the
server and it works great and looks great.
I tried what David suggestion and it works, but JAlbum adjusts itself to
screen size and in the IFrame you end up with a lot of vertical and
horizontal scrolling, not very functional.
Just my 2 cents.
"DavidF" wrote:
> It does in at least three cases on my site...knock on wood ;-) I have tested
> it in Pub 2000 and 2003 so far...
>
> DavidF
>
> "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in message
> news:Ot7WqgyRHHA.4832@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
>
>
| |
| Rob Giordano \(Crash\) 2007-02-02, 10:15 pm |
| Didja publish it? I'd like to see the results if ya did.
"DavidF" <Nope@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:%23GKhTuyRHHA.4844@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| It does in at least three cases on my site...knock on wood ;-) I have
tested
| it in Pub 2000 and 2003 so far...
|
| DavidF
|
| "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in message
| news:Ot7WqgyRHHA.4832@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > I'd be interested to see if it works!
| >
| >
| >
| > "DavidF" <Nope@nospam.com> wrote in message
| > news:%231IuwXyRHHA.4252@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| > | Rob,
| > |
| > | Actually I have recently discovered that the statement "Publisher
| > doesn't
| > | support frames" to not be totally true, though I have typed the same
| > thing
| > | many times on this group. After following the thread with you and Mike
| > and
| > | the poster that had converted his whole Publisher web site to frames,
I
| > have
| > | found another exception to the rule.
| > |
| > | You are correct that there is no built-in support for frames. You are
| > also
| > | correct that there are problems when web hosts frame Publisher
websites,
| > | especially if the sites use the wizard built menus with relative
| > | links...they don't work. However, you can use iframes in a Publisher
web
| > | page by inserting the "proper" code into the page via the insert html
| > code
| > | fragment tool. I say "proper" cuz I don't pretend to understand the
| > "proper"
| > | way to write that code (or any code for that matter), but have had
some
| > | success with my testing. I also think you are correct in suggesting
that
| > the
| > | best way is to link from your web page to the JAlbum, to insure the
| > chance
| > | of actually getting the album to load. And I am certainly not
| > knowledgeable
| > | enough to debate the use or the aesthetics of using frames or
iframes...
| > |
| > | However, for the benefit of Brelade, here is one way to incorporate
| > JAlbums
| > | into Publisher web pages. First create a subfolder on your site (I
used
| > | "Album" at the root), and upload the html output from JAlbum into that
| > | subfolder. Then you can insert the following code snippet into your
| > | Publisher page:
| > |
| > |
| > | <IFRAME src=http://www.yourdomain.com/Album/"
| > | width="700" height="600" hspace="0" vspace="0"
| > | frameborder="0" scrolling="auto"></IFRAME>
| > |
| > |
| > | Make your code fragment box the size you specify in the code
| > fragment...in
| > | this case 700x600, and you can change the size of the iframe depending
| > on
| > | what you want to see, by changing those dimensions in the code
fragment.
| > |
| > | I also have found in the past that some browsers have chocked when I
| > tried
| > | to import anything into a Publisher web page, so I also add another
code
| > | snippet right above the iframe code snippet:
| > |
| > |
| > | <p><font face="Arial" size="3">
| > | <a href="http://www.yourdomain.com/Album/"
| > | onclick="NewWindow(this.href,'name','700','600','yes');return
| > false">Click
| > | Here - Your Photo Album</a> - If the photo album does not load
properly
| > | below, or you prefer to view the album in a new browser window. A new
| > window
| > | will open. Close when finished.<br>
| > |
| > |
| > | This I believe is an alternative to consider by itself, if Brelade
wants
| > the
| > | album to open in a new window, and was my attempt at giving the viewer
a
| > | "fail safe" option, in case the album didn't import and display
properly
| > in
| > | the Publisher page.
| > |
| > | Brelade, as I said, I am not a coder, so don't ask me how to fix any
| > code
| > or
| > | troubleshoot why this doesn't work in your particular situation, but
| > perhaps
| > | it will give you a starting point. And don't ask me to interpret the
| > | instructions given you on the JAlbum link you provided. I believe in
| > trial
| > | and terror as a learning process, so get in there and do some
trials;-)
| > |
| > | DavidF
| > |
| > | "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in
| > message
| > | news:elz00MxRHHA.2124@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| > | > The only way to do this would be with frames, and Publisher doesn't
| > | > support
| > | > frames (which are ugly anyway). JAlbum creates pages. Why not make
| > JAlbums
| > | > pages match your existing page as much as possible then create a
link
| > to
| > | > the
| > | > first index page of JAlbum...thats how I usually do it (but not with
| > | > Publisher - but it should work fine)
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "brelade" <brelade@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > | > news:BBC75047-8359-431D-93D6-25D6610A2AD0@microsoft.com...
| > | > |I have down loaded JAlbum, and wish to insert in to my site.
| > | > | How do i insert JAlbum, but still keeping my page layout, i.e
Header
| > &
| > | > Nav
| > | > | bar.
| > | > |
| > | > | If JAlbum is the wrong type of photo gallery for this, can you
| > recommend
| > | > | another free programme, I just wish to insert it as a portion of
the
| > | > page.
| > | > |
| > | > | Cheers
| > | > | --
| > | > | brelade
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
| |
| DavidF 2007-02-03, 3:15 am |
| Thanks for posting. You are correct, and I had to play with the iframe size
quite a bit to get what I wanted, but the size works pretty well after you
get past the thumbnail page, for the full image size I chose to use. No need
to scroll then.
But as I said to Rob, I tend to think that doing it the way you two are
doing it is probably the best way.
DavidF
"MIchaeldane" <MIchaeldane@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1D267F4E-956E-40A3-A95A-4DA941BA10EC@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
> I've been following this dialog concerning JAlbum and IFrames. I use
> JAlbum
> with my web site, the album being linked from my site to a folder on the
> server and it works great and looks great.
>
> I tried what David suggestion and it works, but JAlbum adjusts itself to
> screen size and in the IFrame you end up with a lot of vertical and
> horizontal scrolling, not very functional.
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
> "DavidF" wrote:
>
| |
| DavidF 2007-02-03, 3:15 am |
| Try it yourself. Just create a blank web page with Publisher, insert the
code snippet and upload it to a test folder on your site. It will be a good
exercise, and remind you why its better to produce your site with
FrontPage.;-)
Or are you going to migrate to Expression? What do you think of Expression?
I took a peek at SharePoint but couldn't get hold of a copy of Expression
during the Publisher beta.
DavidF
"Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in message
news:OSwsndzRHHA.3412@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Didja publish it? I'd like to see the results if ya did.
>
>
>
>
> "DavidF" <Nope@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:%23GKhTuyRHHA.4844@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | It does in at least three cases on my site...knock on wood ;-) I have
> tested
> | it in Pub 2000 and 2003 so far...
> |
> | DavidF
> |
> | "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in
> message
> | news:Ot7WqgyRHHA.4832@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> | > I'd be interested to see if it works!
> | >
> | >
> | >
> | > "DavidF" <Nope@nospam.com> wrote in message
> | > news:%231IuwXyRHHA.4252@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | > | Rob,
> | > |
> | > | Actually I have recently discovered that the statement "Publisher
> | > doesn't
> | > | support frames" to not be totally true, though I have typed the same
> | > thing
> | > | many times on this group. After following the thread with you and
> Mike
> | > and
> | > | the poster that had converted his whole Publisher web site to
> frames,
> I
> | > have
> | > | found another exception to the rule.
> | > |
> | > | You are correct that there is no built-in support for frames. You
> are
> | > also
> | > | correct that there are problems when web hosts frame Publisher
> websites,
> | > | especially if the sites use the wizard built menus with relative
> | > | links...they don't work. However, you can use iframes in a Publisher
> web
> | > | page by inserting the "proper" code into the page via the insert
> html
> | > code
> | > | fragment tool. I say "proper" cuz I don't pretend to understand the
> | > "proper"
> | > | way to write that code (or any code for that matter), but have had
> some
> | > | success with my testing. I also think you are correct in suggesting
> that
> | > the
> | > | best way is to link from your web page to the JAlbum, to insure the
> | > chance
> | > | of actually getting the album to load. And I am certainly not
> | > knowledgeable
> | > | enough to debate the use or the aesthetics of using frames or
> iframes...
> | > |
> | > | However, for the benefit of Brelade, here is one way to incorporate
> | > JAlbums
> | > | into Publisher web pages. First create a subfolder on your site (I
> used
> | > | "Album" at the root), and upload the html output from JAlbum into
> that
> | > | subfolder. Then you can insert the following code snippet into your
> | > | Publisher page:
> | > |
> | > |
> | > | <IFRAME src=http://www.yourdomain.com/Album/"
> | > | width="700" height="600" hspace="0" vspace="0"
> | > | frameborder="0" scrolling="auto"></IFRAME>
> | > |
> | > |
> | > | Make your code fragment box the size you specify in the code
> | > fragment...in
> | > | this case 700x600, and you can change the size of the iframe
> depending
> | > on
> | > | what you want to see, by changing those dimensions in the code
> fragment.
> | > |
> | > | I also have found in the past that some browsers have chocked when I
> | > tried
> | > | to import anything into a Publisher web page, so I also add another
> code
> | > | snippet right above the iframe code snippet:
> | > |
> | > |
> | > | <p><font face="Arial" size="3">
> | > | <a href="http://www.yourdomain.com/Album/"
> | > | onclick="NewWindow(this.href,'name','700','600','yes');return
> | > false">Click
> | > | Here - Your Photo Album</a> - If the photo album does not load
> properly
> | > | below, or you prefer to view the album in a new browser window. A
> new
> | > window
> | > | will open. Close when finished.<br>
> | > |
> | > |
> | > | This I believe is an alternative to consider by itself, if Brelade
> wants
> | > the
> | > | album to open in a new window, and was my attempt at giving the
> viewer
> a
> | > | "fail safe" option, in case the album didn't import and display
> properly
> | > in
> | > | the Publisher page.
> | > |
> | > | Brelade, as I said, I am not a coder, so don't ask me how to fix any
> | > code
> | > or
> | > | troubleshoot why this doesn't work in your particular situation, but
> | > perhaps
> | > | it will give you a starting point. And don't ask me to interpret the
> | > | instructions given you on the JAlbum link you provided. I believe in
> | > trial
> | > | and terror as a learning process, so get in there and do some
> trials;-)
> | > |
> | > | DavidF
> | > |
> | > | "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in
> | > message
> | > | news:elz00MxRHHA.2124@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> | > | > The only way to do this would be with frames, and Publisher
> doesn't
> | > | > support
> | > | > frames (which are ugly anyway). JAlbum creates pages. Why not make
> | > JAlbums
> | > | > pages match your existing page as much as possible then create a
> link
> | > to
> | > | > the
> | > | > first index page of JAlbum...thats how I usually do it (but not
> with
> | > | > Publisher - but it should work fine)
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > | > "brelade" <brelade@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > | > news:BBC75047-8359-431D-93D6-25D6610A2AD0@microsoft.com...
> | > | > |I have down loaded JAlbum, and wish to insert in to my site.
> | > | > | How do i insert JAlbum, but still keeping my page layout, i.e
> Header
> | > &
> | > | > Nav
> | > | > | bar.
> | > | > |
> | > | > | If JAlbum is the wrong type of photo gallery for this, can you
> | > recommend
> | > | > | another free programme, I just wish to insert it as a portion of
> the
> | > | > page.
> | > | > |
> | > | > | Cheers
> | > | > | --
> | > | > | brelade
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > |
> | > |
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>
| |
| brelade 2007-02-03, 3:15 am |
| Taken a while but i think i am all sorted, with the JAlbum.
http://www.breladecockerspaniels.co...oto_gallery.htm
I have IE7, but it looks good, i will probably change the skin, but it's
0400 here in the UK, so it will have to wait till tommorrow.
Is it possible to let me know if there is any probs with my page, as i said
i can only view in IE.
Cheers for all your help, yet again.
Thanks
--
brelade
"DavidF" wrote:
> Try it yourself. Just create a blank web page with Publisher, insert the
> code snippet and upload it to a test folder on your site. It will be a good
> exercise, and remind you why its better to produce your site with
> FrontPage.;-)
>
> Or are you going to migrate to Expression? What do you think of Expression?
> I took a peek at SharePoint but couldn't get hold of a copy of Expression
> during the Publisher beta.
>
> DavidF
>
> "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in message
> news:OSwsndzRHHA.3412@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
>
>
| |
| brelade 2007-02-03, 3:15 am |
| The link above is the wrong link at the moment.
http://www.breladecockerspaniels.co...es/Page3116.htm
--
brelade
"brelade" wrote:
[color=darkred]
> Taken a while but i think i am all sorted, with the JAlbum.
> http://www.breladecockerspaniels.co...oto_gallery.htm
>
> I have IE7, but it looks good, i will probably change the skin, but it's
> 0400 here in the UK, so it will have to wait till tommorrow.
>
> Is it possible to let me know if there is any probs with my page, as i said
> i can only view in IE.
>
> Cheers for all your help, yet again.
> Thanks
> --
> brelade
>
>
> "DavidF" wrote:
>
| |
| MIchaeldane 2007-02-03, 3:15 am |
| brelade;
Suggestion, go back into your JAlbum, navigate to the album tab then
Chamelon and then the album tab.
In the custom link put something like "Back To Main Web Site" and the enter
the link back to your main page and uncheck open in new window.
In this way, if you get to far into the picture album the only way back to
your main page in using the back arrow. This provides a link back to your
main page at the bottom of the picture gallery. And then of course republish.
"brelade" wrote:
[color=darkred]
> The link above is the wrong link at the moment.
> http://www.breladecockerspaniels.co...es/Page3116.htm
> --
> brelade
>
>
> "brelade" wrote:
>
| |
| Mike Koewler 2007-02-03, 3:15 am |
| brelade,
There's no reason for you to only be able to view a page in IE. Opera,
Mozilla (Seamonkey, Firefox, Mozilla) and other browsers all offer free
downloads. If you are serious about doing a web site, you will download
these programs and check out your pages in them. IE's share keeps
dropping. Yeah, they are the still the Great Ape, but would you want
three of every 20 visitors to think your site looks like crap?
YMMV,
Mike
brelade wrote:
> Taken a while but i think i am all sorted, with the JAlbum.
> http://www.breladecockerspaniels.co...oto_gallery.htm
>
> I have IE7, but it looks good, i will probably change the skin, but it's
> 0400 here in the UK, so it will have to wait till tommorrow.
>
> Is it possible to let me know if there is any probs with my page, as i said
> i can only view in IE.
>
> Cheers for all your help, yet again.
> Thanks
| |
| DavidF 2007-02-03, 6:15 pm |
| In my opinion, one of the debatable "advantages" of using Publisher to
produce a website is it forces you to KISS (keep it simple stupid). And in
my opinion, just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean you should. I
would suggest that you follow MIchaeldean and Rob's example, and just link
to your JAlbum from your Publisher page, and not try to insert it into a
page. Also take Mike's advice and at least download FF 2.0 and test your
site yourself.
When I tried to load the page in IE6, it took forever, and then it wanted to
install a newer version of the Adobe Flash Player. A lot of people are going
to say no to that and the page doesn't work without it. I would suggest that
you consider a different JAlbum that doesn't require flash to work. It works
a bit better in FF, but the pictures are too large to fit on the screen, and
you have overlapping design elements. If you load the JAlbum in its own
window, it works fine in FF.
I try to remain non-judgmental in this group, and if someone wants to know
how to do something, I tell them if I know. However, you have worked so hard
on your site, and invested so much time, and show so much creativity, and
though I don't want to offend you, I think you are falling into the trap of
trying to do too much with your site. Too many bells and whistles, special
effects, wham bam and fluff and it distracts from the main subject...the
dogs. I think I have said before that your pages are too wide to begin with.
In my opinion, they should not be wider than 800 pixels at the most. And now
you are inserting an iframe that is also too large, and images that are also
probably too large for a person with a dial-up connection or a small screen.
I would suggest that you take a step back and ask yourself, what is the goal
of your site? Then ask yourself is it to promote the dogs, or to show people
all the things you can do with a website? Then study your pages and ask
yourself, if the viewer had a slow dial-up modem, was technologically
challenged or inexperienced, how would that person like and get around in my
website? What if they were viewing your site on a small screen...a small
laptop...that makes them scroll in order to see the full width of your page?
Ask yourself when you get ready to add yet another animated gif, or add
another dynamic feature, does it contribute and further the goal of
promoting the dogs and make it easier for people to find and view your
content, or does it just distract people from that goal and take a long time
to load? Ask yourself if you want the focus to be on the dogs, or all the
web design tricks?
Don't feel like the lone ranger. I think this is a common problem among new
web designers, and even expert web designers. I recently was asked to
comment on a website for a fancy restaurant. It was designed by an expert
who used some advanced design techniques and specialized web software. It
had a cool factor, but I thought it sucked. I couldn't figure out how to
navigate and I really didn't think it was effective at all. It certainly
didn't leave me wanting to go the restaurant. I heard later that the
designer admitted that he was going for style over substance.
When I first started lurking in this newsgroup, every time I learned a new
web design trick that was cool, or had the wow factor, I added it to my
site. Then someone suggested that I needed to KISS, that all the bells and
whistles I had added were just a distraction, and got in the way of them
finding the content they wanted. They sent me to this link:
http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com/ My feeling were hurt, my ego stomped on,
but when I got over that, I started reading about good web design
principles, and I stepped back and redesigned my site. I stripped out
everything that did not further my goal. I am even now removing the "cool"
javascript menu I have on my main section pages, and replacing it with a
fairly simple, textual menu with absolute links. Not so cool, but easier for
the average person to use, and easier for the search engine webbots to
spider. I should have done this a long time ago, but I was too enamored with
the cool javascript.
This is probably a whole lot more than you wanted to hear, but like I said,
I really respect the amount of time and energy you have invested in your
site, and I will risk possibly insulting you by offering this feedback. I
would suggest that you forget about using the iframes, and just link to your
JAlbums and let them open in a new window. For what its worth, I decided to
back off the whole JAlbum approach, and to KISS, I now use Porta:
http://www.stegmann.dk/mikkel/porta/ or even more KISS just load the images
onto my Publisher pages.
Bottom line is Content Is King....and KISS. Your dogs should be the focus of
your site...
Just by 4 cents worth...I'll get off my soapbox now ;-)
DavidF
"brelade" <brelade@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:450DA2E8-F089-457A-BE86-1CA3267A2473@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
> The link above is the wrong link at the moment.
> http://www.breladecockerspaniels.co...es/Page3116.htm
> --
> brelade
>
>
> "brelade" wrote:
>
| |
| brelade 2007-02-03, 6:15 pm |
| David.
Many thanks for your comments, I do not take any offence, in fact it's good
to get feed back from others who are in the know.
I agree i think i have fallen in to the lets put as much as i can on there,
but the matter of fact is, the site is for my wife, they are her dogs, which
she adores, and i am the one who sat down one weekend and though, you know, i
think i will have a go at putting a web site together, as i couldn't afford
some one to do if for me.
I do view the discussions page regularly to see what's new, but i have had
nothing but good reviews from visitors to my site, which has let me further
down the garden path.
While i am posting a reply, question, when i resize my pictures, what ratio
is width to height, i.e, if i what to go smaller than 800px wide, what would
be the height ratio for that, and even smaller, say 600px wide or 400px wide,
you know what i mean.
Please dont ignore my future request for may be a few small bells &
whistles, but i do aggree that i need to look at my picture size.
Cheers
--
brelade
"DavidF" wrote:
[color=darkred]
> In my opinion, one of the debatable "advantages" of using Publisher to
> produce a website is it forces you to KISS (keep it simple stupid). And in
> my opinion, just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean you should. I
> would suggest that you follow MIchaeldean and Rob's example, and just link
> to your JAlbum from your Publisher page, and not try to insert it into a
> page. Also take Mike's advice and at least download FF 2.0 and test your
> site yourself.
>
> When I tried to load the page in IE6, it took forever, and then it wanted to
> install a newer version of the Adobe Flash Player. A lot of people are going
> to say no to that and the page doesn't work without it. I would suggest that
> you consider a different JAlbum that doesn't require flash to work. It works
> a bit better in FF, but the pictures are too large to fit on the screen, and
> you have overlapping design elements. If you load the JAlbum in its own
> window, it works fine in FF.
>
> I try to remain non-judgmental in this group, and if someone wants to know
> how to do something, I tell them if I know. However, you have worked so hard
> on your site, and invested so much time, and show so much creativity, and
> though I don't want to offend you, I think you are falling into the trap of
> trying to do too much with your site. Too many bells and whistles, special
> effects, wham bam and fluff and it distracts from the main subject...the
> dogs. I think I have said before that your pages are too wide to begin with.
> In my opinion, they should not be wider than 800 pixels at the most. And now
> you are inserting an iframe that is also too large, and images that are also
> probably too large for a person with a dial-up connection or a small screen.
>
> I would suggest that you take a step back and ask yourself, what is the goal
> of your site? Then ask yourself is it to promote the dogs, or to show people
> all the things you can do with a website? Then study your pages and ask
> yourself, if the viewer had a slow dial-up modem, was technologically
> challenged or inexperienced, how would that person like and get around in my
> website? What if they were viewing your site on a small screen...a small
> laptop...that makes them scroll in order to see the full width of your page?
> Ask yourself when you get ready to add yet another animated gif, or add
> another dynamic feature, does it contribute and further the goal of
> promoting the dogs and make it easier for people to find and view your
> content, or does it just distract people from that goal and take a long time
> to load? Ask yourself if you want the focus to be on the dogs, or all the
> web design tricks?
>
> Don't feel like the lone ranger. I think this is a common problem among new
> web designers, and even expert web designers. I recently was asked to
> comment on a website for a fancy restaurant. It was designed by an expert
> who used some advanced design techniques and specialized web software. It
> had a cool factor, but I thought it sucked. I couldn't figure out how to
> navigate and I really didn't think it was effective at all. It certainly
> didn't leave me wanting to go the restaurant. I heard later that the
> designer admitted that he was going for style over substance.
>
> When I first started lurking in this newsgroup, every time I learned a new
> web design trick that was cool, or had the wow factor, I added it to my
> site. Then someone suggested that I needed to KISS, that all the bells and
> whistles I had added were just a distraction, and got in the way of them
> finding the content they wanted. They sent me to this link:
> http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com/ My feeling were hurt, my ego stomped on,
> but when I got over that, I started reading about good web design
> principles, and I stepped back and redesigned my site. I stripped out
> everything that did not further my goal. I am even now removing the "cool"
> javascript menu I have on my main section pages, and replacing it with a
> fairly simple, textual menu with absolute links. Not so cool, but easier for
> the average person to use, and easier for the search engine webbots to
> spider. I should have done this a long time ago, but I was too enamored with
> the cool javascript.
>
> This is probably a whole lot more than you wanted to hear, but like I said,
> I really respect the amount of time and energy you have invested in your
> site, and I will risk possibly insulting you by offering this feedback. I
> would suggest that you forget about using the iframes, and just link to your
> JAlbums and let them open in a new window. For what its worth, I decided to
> back off the whole JAlbum approach, and to KISS, I now use Porta:
> http://www.stegmann.dk/mikkel/porta/ or even more KISS just load the images
> onto my Publisher pages.
>
> Bottom line is Content Is King....and KISS. Your dogs should be the focus of
> your site...
>
> Just by 4 cents worth...I'll get off my soapbox now ;-)
>
> DavidF
>
> "brelade" <brelade@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:450DA2E8-F089-457A-BE86-1CA3267A2473@microsoft.com...
| |
| DavidF 2007-02-03, 6:15 pm |
| I don't know that I am in the know or not. I am far from an expert or else I
wouldn't be using Publisher to build websites, would I? <grin> But I am glad
you weren't offended.
As per sizes, just make sure that you maintain the same aspect ratio of the
original picture. Some of the more common dimensions are 480x320, 640x480,
800x600 etc. I actually built a couple JAlbums using 400 pixel wide images,
that gave you the option of clicking for a full screen version of 800x600.
This way the album was quick to load for the dial-up viewer, the image was
large enough to provide some detail, and if someone had a broadband
connection, or lots of patience, they could click on the largest version.
Most thumbnails seem to be 100 to 150 pixels wide, though on one Album I
used 200.
And no <grin> I will still try to answer your questions as best I can, and
will generally stay off the soap box. Web design is a great way to show your
own creativity, and I doubt that anyone would say that there is just one
right way. If they did, I would wonder about that person...
Have fun...
DavidF
"brelade" <brelade@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:439F37A7-28F1-49FA-A996-320730149688@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
> David.
> Many thanks for your comments, I do not take any offence, in fact it's
> good
> to get feed back from others who are in the know.
>
> I agree i think i have fallen in to the lets put as much as i can on
> there,
> but the matter of fact is, the site is for my wife, they are her dogs,
> which
> she adores, and i am the one who sat down one weekend and though, you
> know, i
> think i will have a go at putting a web site together, as i couldn't
> afford
> some one to do if for me.
>
> I do view the discussions page regularly to see what's new, but i have had
> nothing but good reviews from visitors to my site, which has let me
> further
> down the garden path.
>
> While i am posting a reply, question, when i resize my pictures, what
> ratio
> is width to height, i.e, if i what to go smaller than 800px wide, what
> would
> be the height ratio for that, and even smaller, say 600px wide or 400px
> wide,
> you know what i mean.
>
> Please dont ignore my future request for may be a few small bells &
> whistles, but i do aggree that i need to look at my picture size.
>
> Cheers
>
> --
> brelade
>
>
> "DavidF" wrote:
>
| |
| Mike Koewler 2007-02-03, 6:15 pm |
| Brelade,
A 400 x 300 image (at 96 dpi) looks nice and loads rather quick. Here's
an album I put up for some of my daughter's pictures. Nothing fancy at
all. To see a larger view, click on the picture.
Mike
brelade wrote:
> David.
> Many thanks for your comments, I do not take any offence, in fact it's good
> to get feed back from others who are in the know.
>
> I agree i think i have fallen in to the lets put as much as i can on there,
> but the matter of fact is, the site is for my wife, they are her dogs, which
> she adores, and i am the one who sat down one weekend and though, you know, i
> think i will have a go at putting a web site together, as i couldn't afford
> some one to do if for me.
>
> I do view the discussions page regularly to see what's new, but i have had
> nothing but good reviews from visitors to my site, which has let me further
> down the garden path.
>
> While i am posting a reply, question, when i resize my pictures, what ratio
> is width to height, i.e, if i what to go smaller than 800px wide, what would
> be the height ratio for that, and even smaller, say 600px wide or 400px wide,
> you know what i mean.
>
> Please dont ignore my future request for may be a few small bells &
> whistles, but i do aggree that i need to look at my picture size.
>
> Cheers
>
| |
| Mike Koewler 2007-02-03, 6:15 pm |
| Oh, the link: www.valleycat.net/kelsey/
Mike
Mike Koewler wrote:[color=darkred]
> Brelade,
>
> A 400 x 300 image (at 96 dpi) looks nice and loads rather quick. Here's
> an album I put up for some of my daughter's pictures. Nothing fancy at
> all. To see a larger view, click on the picture.
>
> Mike
>
> brelade wrote:
>
| |
| Rob Giordano \(Crash\) 2007-02-03, 10:15 pm |
| I've been using Expression since the first CTP. I now have the RTM and the 8
hour DVD Total Training videos and Jim Cheshire's book. I hardly use FP
anymore. EW is really nice...you should download the trial version and try
it. I've been making the transition to CSS for the past few months so I
really feel like a noob these days.
"DavidF" <Nope@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:OAqTXG0RHHA.5032@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| Try it yourself. Just create a blank web page with Publisher, insert the
| code snippet and upload it to a test folder on your site. It will be a
good
| exercise, and remind you why its better to produce your site with
| FrontPage.;-)
|
| Or are you going to migrate to Expression? What do you think of
Expression?
| I took a peek at SharePoint but couldn't get hold of a copy of Expression
| during the Publisher beta.
|
| DavidF
|
| "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in message
| news:OSwsndzRHHA.3412@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| > Didja publish it? I'd like to see the results if ya did.
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > "DavidF" <Nope@nospam.com> wrote in message
| > news:%23GKhTuyRHHA.4844@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > | It does in at least three cases on my site...knock on wood ;-) I have
| > tested
| > | it in Pub 2000 and 2003 so far...
| > |
| > | DavidF
| > |
| > | "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in
| > message
| > | news:Ot7WqgyRHHA.4832@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > | > I'd be interested to see if it works!
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "DavidF" <Nope@nospam.com> wrote in message
| > | > news:%231IuwXyRHHA.4252@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| > | > | Rob,
| > | > |
| > | > | Actually I have recently discovered that the statement "Publisher
| > | > doesn't
| > | > | support frames" to not be totally true, though I have typed the
same
| > | > thing
| > | > | many times on this group. After following the thread with you and
| > Mike
| > | > and
| > | > | the poster that had converted his whole Publisher web site to
| > frames,
| > I
| > | > have
| > | > | found another exception to the rule.
| > | > |
| > | > | You are correct that there is no built-in support for frames. You
| > are
| > | > also
| > | > | correct that there are problems when web hosts frame Publisher
| > websites,
| > | > | especially if the sites use the wizard built menus with relative
| > | > | links...they don't work. However, you can use iframes in a
Publisher
| > web
| > | > | page by inserting the "proper" code into the page via the insert
| > html
| > | > code
| > | > | fragment tool. I say "proper" cuz I don't pretend to understand
the
| > | > "proper"
| > | > | way to write that code (or any code for that matter), but have had
| > some
| > | > | success with my testing. I also think you are correct in
suggesting
| > that
| > | > the
| > | > | best way is to link from your web page to the JAlbum, to insure
the
| > | > chance
| > | > | of actually getting the album to load. And I am certainly not
| > | > knowledgeable
| > | > | enough to debate the use or the aesthetics of using frames or
| > iframes...
| > | > |
| > | > | However, for the benefit of Brelade, here is one way to
incorporate
| > | > JAlbums
| > | > | into Publisher web pages. First create a subfolder on your site (I
| > used
| > | > | "Album" at the root), and upload the html output from JAlbum into
| > that
| > | > | subfolder. Then you can insert the following code snippet into
your
| > | > | Publisher page:
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | <IFRAME src=http://www.yourdomain.com/Album/"
| > | > | width="700" height="600" hspace="0" vspace="0"
| > | > | frameborder="0" scrolling="auto"></IFRAME>
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | Make your code fragment box the size you specify in the code
| > | > fragment...in
| > | > | this case 700x600, and you can change the size of the iframe
| > depending
| > | > on
| > | > | what you want to see, by changing those dimensions in the code
| > fragment.
| > | > |
| > | > | I also have found in the past that some browsers have chocked when
I
| > | > tried
| > | > | to import anything into a Publisher web page, so I also add
another
| > code
| > | > | snippet right above the iframe code snippet:
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | <p><font face="Arial" size="3">
| > | > | <a href="http://www.yourdomain.com/Album/"
| > | > | onclick="NewWindow(this.href,'name','700','600','yes');return
| > | > false">Click
| > | > | Here - Your Photo Album</a> - If the photo album does not load
| > properly
| > | > | below, or you prefer to view the album in a new browser window. A
| > new
| > | > window
| > | > | will open. Close when finished.<br>
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | This I believe is an alternative to consider by itself, if Brelade
| > wants
| > | > the
| > | > | album to open in a new window, and was my attempt at giving the
| > viewer
| > a
| > | > | "fail safe" option, in case the album didn't import and display
| > properly
| > | > in
| > | > | the Publisher page.
| > | > |
| > | > | Brelade, as I said, I am not a coder, so don't ask me how to fix
any
| > | > code
| > | > or
| > | > | troubleshoot why this doesn't work in your particular situation,
but
| > | > perhaps
| > | > | it will give you a starting point. And don't ask me to interpret
the
| > | > | instructions given you on the JAlbum link you provided. I believe
in
| > | > trial
| > | > | and terror as a learning process, so get in there and do some
| > trials;-)
| > | > |
| > | > | DavidF
| > | > |
| > | > | "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in
| > | > message
| > | > | news:elz00MxRHHA.2124@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| > | > | > The only way to do this would be with frames, and Publisher
| > doesn't
| > | > | > support
| > | > | > frames (which are ugly anyway). JAlbum creates pages. Why not
make
| > | > JAlbums
| > | > | > pages match your existing page as much as possible then create a
| > link
| > | > to
| > | > | > the
| > | > | > first index page of JAlbum...thats how I usually do it (but not
| > with
| > | > | > Publisher - but it should work fine)
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > "brelade" <brelade@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > news:BBC75047-8359-431D-93D6-25D6610A2AD0@microsoft.com...
| > | > | > |I have down loaded JAlbum, and wish to insert in to my site.
| > | > | > | How do i insert JAlbum, but still keeping my page layout, i.e
| > Header
| > | > &
| > | > | > Nav
| > | > | > | bar.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | If JAlbum is the wrong type of photo gallery for this, can you
| > | > recommend
| > | > | > | another free programme, I just wish to insert it as a portion
of
| > the
| > | > | > page.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Cheers
| > | > | > | --
| > | > | > | brelade
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
| |
| Rob Giordano \(Crash\) 2007-02-03, 10:15 pm |
| ot;
nice lookin' dawgs.
I like the curly headed one.
"brelade" <brelade@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:439F37A7-28F1-49FA-A996-320730149688@microsoft.com...
| David.
| Many thanks for your comments, I do not take any offence, in fact it's
good
| to get feed back from others who are in the know.
|
| I agree i think i have fallen in to the lets put as much as i can on
there,
| but the matter of fact is, the site is for my wife, they are her dogs,
which
| she adores, and i am the one who sat down one weekend and though, you
know, i
| think i will have a go at putting a web site together, as i couldn't
afford
| some one to do if for me.
|
| I do view the discussions page regularly to see what's new, but i have had
| nothing but good reviews from visitors to my site, which has let me
further
| down the garden path.
|
| While i am posting a reply, question, when i resize my pictures, what
ratio
| is width to height, i.e, if i what to go smaller than 800px wide, what
would
| be the height ratio for that, and even smaller, say 600px wide or 400px
wide,
| you know what i mean.
|
| Please dont ignore my future request for may be a few small bells &
| whistles, but i do aggree that i need to look at my picture size.
|
| Cheers
|
| --
| brelade
|
|
| "DavidF" wrote:
|
| > In my opinion, one of the debatable "advantages" of using Publisher to
| > produce a website is it forces you to KISS (keep it simple stupid). And
in
| > my opinion, just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean you should.
I
| > would suggest that you follow MIchaeldean and Rob's example, and just
link
| > to your JAlbum from your Publisher page, and not try to insert it into a
| > page. Also take Mike's advice and at least download FF 2.0 and test your
| > site yourself.
| >
| > When I tried to load the page in IE6, it took forever, and then it
wanted to
| > install a newer version of the Adobe Flash Player. A lot of people are
going
| > to say no to that and the page doesn't work without it. I would suggest
that
| > you consider a different JAlbum that doesn't require flash to work. It
works
| > a bit better in FF, but the pictures are too large to fit on the screen,
and
| > you have overlapping design elements. If you load the JAlbum in its own
| > window, it works fine in FF.
| >
| > I try to remain non-judgmental in this group, and if someone wants to
know
| > how to do something, I tell them if I know. However, you have worked so
hard
| > on your site, and invested so much time, and show so much creativity,
and
| > though I don't want to offend you, I think you are falling into the trap
of
| > trying to do too much with your site. Too many bells and whistles,
special
| > effects, wham bam and fluff and it distracts from the main subject...the
| > dogs. I think I have said before that your pages are too wide to begin
with.
| > In my opinion, they should not be wider than 800 pixels at the most. And
now
| > you are inserting an iframe that is also too large, and images that are
also
| > probably too large for a person with a dial-up connection or a small
screen.
| >
| > I would suggest that you take a step back and ask yourself, what is the
goal
| > of your site? Then ask yourself is it to promote the dogs, or to show
people
| > all the things you can do with a website? Then study your pages and ask
| > yourself, if the viewer had a slow dial-up modem, was technologically
| > challenged or inexperienced, how would that person like and get around
in my
| > website? What if they were viewing your site on a small screen...a small
| > laptop...that makes them scroll in order to see the full width of your
page?
| > Ask yourself when you get ready to add yet another animated gif, or add
| > another dynamic feature, does it contribute and further the goal of
| > promoting the dogs and make it easier for people to find and view your
| > content, or does it just distract people from that goal and take a long
time
| > to load? Ask yourself if you want the focus to be on the dogs, or all
the
| > web design tricks?
| >
| > Don't feel like the lone ranger. I think this is a common problem among
new
| > web designers, and even expert web designers. I recently was asked to
| > comment on a website for a fancy restaurant. It was designed by an
expert
| > who used some advanced design techniques and specialized web software.
It
| > had a cool factor, but I thought it sucked. I couldn't figure out how to
| > navigate and I really didn't think it was effective at all. It certainly
| > didn't leave me wanting to go the restaurant. I heard later that the
| > designer admitted that he was going for style over substance.
| >
| > When I first started lurking in this newsgroup, every time I learned a
new
| > web design trick that was cool, or had the wow factor, I added it to my
| > site. Then someone suggested that I needed to KISS, that all the bells
and
| > whistles I had added were just a distraction, and got in the way of them
| > finding the content they wanted. They sent me to this link:
| > http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com/ My feeling were hurt, my ego stomped
on,
| > but when I got over that, I started reading about good web design
| > principles, and I stepped back and redesigned my site. I stripped out
| > everything that did not further my goal. I am even now removing the
"cool"
| > javascript menu I have on my main section pages, and replacing it with a
| > fairly simple, textual menu with absolute links. Not so cool, but easier
for
| > the average person to use, and easier for the search engine webbots to
| > spider. I should have done this a long time ago, but I was too enamored
with
| > the cool javascript.
| >
| > This is probably a whole lot more than you wanted to hear, but like I
said,
| > I really respect the amount of time and energy you have invested in your
| > site, and I will risk possibly insulting you by offering this feedback.
I
| > would suggest that you forget about using the iframes, and just link to
your
| > JAlbums and let them open in a new window. For what its worth, I decided
to
| > back off the whole JAlbum approach, and to KISS, I now use Porta:
| > http://www.stegmann.dk/mikkel/porta/ or even more KISS just load the
images
| > onto my Publisher pages.
| >
| > Bottom line is Content Is King....and KISS. Your dogs should be the
focus of
| > your site...
| >
| > Just by 4 cents worth...I'll get off my soapbox now ;-)
| >
| > DavidF
| >
| > "brelade" <brelade@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > news:450DA2E8-F089-457A-BE86-1CA3267A2473@microsoft.com...
| > > The link above is the wrong link at the moment.
| > > http://www.breladecockerspaniels.co...es/Page3116.htm
| > > --
| > > brelade
| > >
| > >
| > > "brelade" wrote:
| > >
| > >> Taken a while but i think i am all sorted, with the JAlbum.
| > >> http://www.breladecockerspaniels.co...oto_gallery.htm
| > >>
| > >> I have IE7, but it looks good, i will probably change the skin, but
it's
| > >> 0400 here in the UK, so it will have to wait till tommorrow.
| > >>
| > >> Is it possible to let me know if there is any probs with my page, as
i
| > >> said
| > >> i can only view in IE.
| > >>
| > >> Cheers for all your help, yet again.
| > >> Thanks
| > >> --
| > >> brelade
| > >>
| > >>
| > >> "DavidF" wrote:
| > >>
| > >> > Try it yourself. Just create a blank web page with Publisher,
insert
| > >> > the
| > >> > code snippet and upload it to a test folder on your site. It will
be a
| > >> > good
| > >> > exercise, and remind you why its better to produce your site with
| > >> > FrontPage.;-)
| > >> >
| > >> > Or are you going to migrate to Expression? What do you think of
| > >> > Expression?
| > >> > I took a peek at SharePoint but couldn't get hold of a copy of
| > >> > Expression
| > >> > during the Publisher beta.
| > >> >
| > >> > DavidF
| > >> >
| > >> > "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in
| > >> > message
| > >> > news:OSwsndzRHHA.3412@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| > >> > > Didja publish it? I'd like to see the results if ya did.
| > >> > >
| > >> > >
| > >> > >
| > >> > >
| > >> > > "DavidF" <Nope@nospam.com> wrote in message
| > >> > > news:%23GKhTuyRHHA.4844@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > >> > > | It does in at least three cases on my site...knock on wood ;-)
I
| > >> > > have
| > >> > > tested
| > >> > > | it in Pub 2000 and 2003 so far...
| > >> > > |
| > >> > > | DavidF
| > >> > > |
| > >> > > | "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote
in
| > >> > > message
| > >> > > | news:Ot7WqgyRHHA.4832@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > >> > > | > I'd be interested to see if it works!
| > >> > > | >
| > >> > > | >
| > >> > > | >
| > >> > > | > "DavidF" <Nope@nospam.com> wrote in message
| > >> > > | > news:%231IuwXyRHHA.4252@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| > >> > > | > | Rob,
| > >> > > | > |
| > >> > > | > | Actually I have recently discovered that the statement
| > >> > > "Publisher
| > >> > > | > doesn't
| > >> > > | > | support frames" to not be totally true, though I have typed
the
| > >> > > same
| > >> > > | > thing
| > >> > > | > | many times on this group. After following the thread with
you
| > >> > > and
| > >> > > Mike
| > >> > > | > and
| > >> > > | > | the poster that had converted his whole Publisher web site
to
| > >> > > frames,
| > >> > > I
| > >> > > | > have
| > >> > > | > | found another exception to the rule.
| > >> > > | > |
| > >> > > | > | You are correct that there is no built-in support for
frames.
| > >> > > You
| > >> > > are
| > >> > > | > also
| > >> > > | > | correct that there are problems when web hosts frame
Publisher
| > >> > > websites,
| > >> > > | > | especially if the sites use the wizard built menus with
| > >> > > relative
| > >> > > | > | links...they don't work. However, you can use iframes in a
| > >> > > Publisher
| > >> > > web
| > >> > > | > | page by inserting the "proper" code into the page via the
| > >> > > insert
| > >> > > html
| > >> > > | > code
| > >> > > | > | fragment tool. I say "proper" cuz I don't pretend to
understand
| > >> > > the
| > >> > > | > "proper"
| > >> > > | > | way to write that code (or any code for that matter), but
have
| > >> > > had
| > >> > > some
| > >> > > | > | success with my testing. I also think you are correct in
| > >> > > suggesting
| > >> > > that
| > >> > > | > the
| > >> > > | > | best way is to link from your web page to the JAlbum, to
insure
| > >> > > the
| > >> > > | > chance
| > >> > > | > | of actually getting the album to load. And I am certainly
not
| > >> > > | > knowledgeable
| > >> > > | > | enough to debate the use or the aesthetics of using frames
or
| > >> > > iframes...
| > >> > > | > |
| > >> > > | > | However, for the benefit of Brelade, here is one way to
| > >> > > incorporate
| > >> > > | > JAlbums
| > >> > > | > | into Publisher web pages. First create a subfolder on your
site
| > >> > > (I
| > >> > > used
| > >> > > | > | "Album" at the root), and upload the html output from
JAlbum
| > >> > > into
| > >> > > that
| > >> > > | > | subfolder. Then you can insert the following code snippet
into
| > >> > > your
| > >> > > | > | Publisher page:
| > >> > > | > |
| > >> > > | > |
| > >> > > | > | <IFRAME src=http://www.yourdomain.com/Album/"
| > >> > > | > | width="700" height="600" hspace="0" vspace="0"
| > >> > > | > | frameborder="0" scrolling="auto"></IFRAME>
| > >> > > | > |
| > >> > > | > |
| > >> > > | > | Make your code fragment box the size you specify in the
code
| > >> > > | > fragment...in
| > >> > > | > | this case 700x600, and you can change the size of the
iframe
| > >> > > depending
| > >> > > | > on
| > >> > > | > | what you want to see, by changing those dimensions in the
code
| > >> > > fragment.
| > >> > > | > |
| > >> > > | > | I also have found in the past that some browsers have
chocked
| > >> > > when I
| > >> > > | > tried
| > >> > > | > | to import anything into a Publisher web page, so I also add
| > >> > > another
| > >> > > code
| > >> > > | > | snippet right above the iframe code snippet:
| > >> > > | > |
| > >> > > | > |
| > >> > > | > | <p><font face="Arial" size="3">
| > >> > > | > | <a href="http://www.yourdomain.com/Album/"
| > >> > > | > |
onclick="NewWindow(this.href,'name','700','600','yes');return
| > >> > > | > false">Click
| > >> > > | > | Here - Your Photo Album</a> - If the photo album does not
load
| > >> > > properly
| > >> > > | > | below, or you prefer to view the album in a new browser
window.
| > >> > > A
| > >> > > new
| > >> > > | > window
| > >> > > | > | will open. Close when finished.<br>
| > >> > > | > |
| > >> > > | > |
| > >> > > | > | This I believe is an alternative to consider by itself, if
| > >> > > Brelade
| > >> > > wants
| > >> > > | > the
| > >> > > | > | album to open in a new window, and was my attempt at giving
the
| > >> > > viewer
| > >> > > a
| > >> > > | > | "fail safe" option, in case the album didn't import and
display
| > >> > > properly
| > >> > > | > in
| > >> > > | > | the Publisher page.
| > >> > > | > |
| > >> > > | > | Brelade, as I said, I am not a coder, so don't ask me how
to
| > >> > > fix any
| > >> > > | > code
| > >> > > | > or
| > >> > > | > | troubleshoot why this doesn't work in your particular
| > >> > > situation, but
| > >> > > | > perhaps
| > >> > > | > | it will give you a starting point. And don't ask me to
| > >> > > interpret the
| > >> > > | > | instructions given you on the JAlbum link you provided. I
| > >> > > believe in
| > >> > > | > trial
| > >> > > | > | and terror as a learning process, so get in there and do
some
| > >> > > trials;-)
| > >> > > | > |
| > >> > > | > | DavidF
| > >> > > | > |
| > >> > > | > | "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid>
wrote
| > >> > > in
| > >> > > | > message
| > >> > > | > | news:elz00MxRHHA.2124@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| > >> > > | > | > The only way to do this would be with frames, and
Publisher
| > >> > > doesn't
| > >> > > | > | > support
| > >> > > | > | > frames (which are ugly anyway). JAlbum creates pages. Why
not
| > >> > > make
| > >> > > | > JAlbums
| > >> > > | > | > pages match your existing page as much as possible then
| > >> > > create a
| > >> > > link
| > >> > > | > to
| > >> > > | > | > the
| > >> > > | > | > first index page of JAlbum...thats how I usually do it
(but
| > >> > > not
| > >> > > with
| > >> > > | > | > Publisher - but it should work fine)
| > >> > > | > | >
| > >> > > | > | >
| |
| Mike Koewler 2007-02-08, 6:16 pm |
| David,
This page: http://anzz.co.uk/page15.html was done in WebPlus. Check out
the albums. The pages use an i-frame to hold JAlbum so the designer
could keep her banner on the page.
I would think this would work fine in Pub also, though one would need to
create the code for the i-frame.
Mike
DavidF wrote:
> Try it yourself. Just create a blank web page with Publisher, insert the
> code snippet and upload it to a test folder on your site. It will be a good
> exercise, and remind you why its better to produce your site with
> FrontPage.;-)
>
> Or are you going to migrate to Expression? What do you think of Expression?
> I took a peek at SharePoint but couldn't get hold of a copy of Expression
> during the Publisher beta.
>
> DavidF
>
> "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in message
> news:OSwsndzRHHA.3412@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
>
| |
| brelade 2007-02-08, 6:16 pm |
| Mike.
I have managed to insert a similar page on my site, with iframe & JAlbum
http://www.breladecockerspaniels.co...es/Page3116.htm
--
brelade
"Mike Koewler" wrote:
> David,
>
> This page: http://anzz.co.uk/page15.html was done in WebPlus. Check out
> the albums. The pages use an i-frame to hold JAlbum so the designer
> could keep her banner on the page.
>
> I would think this would work fine in Pub also, though one would need to
> create the code for the i-frame.
>
> Mike
>
> DavidF wrote:
>
| |
| DavidF 2007-02-08, 6:16 pm |
| Looks good! I think one of the best things about JAlbum are all the
different choices in skins. And yes, I have had some luck using the JAlbum,
but also like the Porta albums. Both work with the iframe in a Pub doc.
DavidF
"Mike Koewler" <wordwiz@fuse.net> wrote in message
news:4a716$45cb521f$d844dd7c$6272@FUSE.NET...[color=darkred]
> David,
>
> This page: http://anzz.co.uk/page15.html was done in WebPlus. Check out
> the albums. The pages use an i-frame to hold JAlbum so the designer could
> keep her banner on the page.
>
> I would think this would work fine in Pub also, though one would need to
> create the code for the i-frame.
>
> Mike
>
> DavidF wrote:
| |
| DavidF 2007-02-08, 6:16 pm |
| Hey, good job...I think the new images sizes is a real improvement. They are
plenty big to see details, and they load pretty quickly on my dial-up. Nice
balance between form and function. I like it better than the first one.
DavidF
"brelade" <brelade@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:CB7297E9-A150-496B-83C2-102DCBFDF6F9@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
> Mike.
> I have managed to insert a similar page on my site, with iframe & JAlbum
> http://www.breladecockerspaniels.co...es/Page3116.htm
> --
> brelade
>
>
> "Mike Koewler" wrote:
>
| |
| brelade 2007-02-08, 6:16 pm |
| Cheers David for your kind remarks.
I my of missed it, but do you link to your site.
Cheers
--
brelade
"DavidF" wrote:
> Looks good! I think one of the best things about JAlbum are all the
> different choices in skins. And yes, I have had some luck using the JAlbum,
> but also like the Porta albums. Both work with the iframe in a Pub doc.
>
> DavidF
>
> "Mike Koewler" <wordwiz@fuse.net> wrote in message
> news:4a716$45cb521f$d844dd7c$6272@FUSE.NET...
>
>
| |
| Rob Giordano \(Crash\) 2007-02-09, 6:16 pm |
| Very cool looks good.
The problem you're gonna run into with visitor is that they may end up here:
http://www.breladecockerspaniels.co...lbum/index.html with no way
home and the same thing if they book mark your page.
"brelade" <brelade@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:CB7297E9-A150-496B-83C2-102DCBFDF6F9@microsoft.com...
| Mike.
| I have managed to insert a similar page on my site, with iframe & JAlbum
| http://www.breladecockerspaniels.co...es/Page3116.htm
| --
| brelade
|
|
| "Mike Koewler" wrote:
|
| > David,
| >
| > This page: http://anzz.co.uk/page15.html was done in WebPlus. Check out
| > the albums. The pages use an i-frame to hold JAlbum so the designer
| > could keep her banner on the page.
| >
| > I would think this would work fine in Pub also, though one would need to
| > create the code for the i-frame.
| >
| > Mike
| >
| > DavidF wrote:
| > > Try it yourself. Just create a blank web page with Publisher, insert
the
| > > code snippet and upload it to a test folder on your site. It will be a
good
| > > exercise, and remind you why its better to produce your site with
| > > FrontPage.;-)
| > >
| > > Or are you going to migrate to Expression? What do you think of
Expression?
| > > I took a peek at SharePoint but couldn't get hold of a copy of
Expression
| > > during the Publisher beta.
| > >
| > > DavidF
| > >
| > > "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in
message
| > > news:OSwsndzRHHA.3412@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| > >> Didja publish it? I'd like to see the results if ya did.
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>
| > >> "DavidF" <Nope@nospam.com> wrote in message
| > >> news:%23GKhTuyRHHA.4844@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > >> | It does in at least three cases on my site...knock on wood ;-) I
have
| > >> tested
| > >> | it in Pub 2000 and 2003 so far...
| > >> |
| > >> | DavidF
| > >> |
| > >> | "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in
| > >> message
| > >> | news:Ot7WqgyRHHA.4832@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > >> | > I'd be interested to see if it works!
| > >> | >
| > >> | >
| > >> | >
| > >> | > "DavidF" <Nope@nospam.com> wrote in message
| > >> | > news:%231IuwXyRHHA.4252@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| > >> | > | Rob,
| > >> | > |
| > >> | > | Actually I have recently discovered that the statement
"Publisher
| > >> | > doesn't
| > >> | > | support frames" to not be totally true, though I have typed the
same
| > >> | > thing
| > >> | > | many times on this group. After following the thread with you
and
| > >> Mike
| > >> | > and
| > >> | > | the poster that had converted his whole Publisher web site to
| > >> frames,
| > >> I
| > >> | > have
| > >> | > | found another exception to the rule.
| > >> | > |
| > >> | > | You are correct that there is no built-in support for frames.
You
| > >> are
| > >> | > also
| > >> | > | correct that there are problems when web hosts frame Publisher
| > >> websites,
| > >> | > | especially if the sites use the wizard built menus with
relative
| > >> | > | links...they don't work. However, you can use iframes in a
Publisher
| > >> web
| > >> | > | page by inserting the "proper" code into the page via the
insert
| > >> html
| > >> | > code
| > >> | > | fragment tool. I say "proper" cuz I don't pretend to understand
the
| > >> | > "proper"
| > >> | > | way to write that code (or any code for that matter), but have
had
| > >> some
| > >> | > | success with my testing. I also think you are correct in
suggesting
| > >> that
| > >> | > the
| > >> | > | best way is to link from your web page to the JAlbum, to insure
the
| > >> | > chance
| > >> | > | of actually getting the album to load. And I am certainly not
| > >> | > knowledgeable
| > >> | > | enough to debate the use or the aesthetics of using frames or
| > >> iframes...
| > >> | > |
| > >> | > | However, for the benefit of Brelade, here is one way to
incorporate
| > >> | > JAlbums
| > >> | > | into Publisher web pages. First create a subfolder on your site
(I
| > >> used
| > >> | > | "Album" at the root), and upload the html output from JAlbum
into
| > >> that
| > >> | > | subfolder. Then you can insert the following code snippet into
your
| > >> | > | Publisher page:
| > >> | > |
| > >> | > |
| > >> | > | <IFRAME src=http://www.yourdomain.com/Album/"
| > >> | > | width="700" height="600" hspace="0" vspace="0"
| > >> | > | frameborder="0" scrolling="auto"></IFRAME>
| > >> | > |
| > >> | > |
| > >> | > | Make your code fragment box the size you specify in the code
| > >> | > fragment...in
| > >> | > | this case 700x600, and you can change the size of the iframe
| > >> depending
| > >> | > on
| > >> | > | what you want to see, by changing those dimensions in the code
| > >> fragment.
| > >> | > |
| > >> | > | I also have found in the past that some browsers have chocked
when I
| > >> | > tried
| > >> | > | to import anything into a Publisher web page, so I also add
another
| > >> code
| > >> | > | snippet right above the iframe code snippet:
| > >> | > |
| > >> | > |
| > >> | > | <p><font face="Arial" size="3">
| > >> | > | <a href="http://www.yourdomain.com/Album/"
| > >> | > | onclick="NewWindow(this.href,'name','700','600','yes');return
| > >> | > false">Click
| > >> | > | Here - Your Photo Album</a> - If the photo album does not load
| > >> properly
| > >> | > | below, or you prefer to view the album in a new browser window.
A
| > >> new
| > >> | > window
| > >> | > | will open. Close when finished.<br>
| > >> | > |
| > >> | > |
| > >> | > | This I believe is an alternative to consider by itself, if
Brelade
| > >> wants
| > >> | > the
| > >> | > | album to open in a new window, and was my attempt at giving the
| > >> viewer
| > >> a
| > >> | > | "fail safe" option, in case the album didn't import and display
| > >> properly
| > >> | > in
| > >> | > | the Publisher page.
| > >> | > |
| > >> | > | Brelade, as I said, I am not a coder, so don't ask me how to
fix any
| > >> | > code
| > >> | > or
| > >> | > | troubleshoot why this doesn't work in your particular
situation, but
| > >> | > perhaps
| > >> | > | it will give you a starting point. And don't ask me to
interpret the
| > >> | > | instructions given you on the JAlbum link you provided. I
believe in
| > >> | > trial
| > >> | > | and terror as a learning process, so get in there and do some
| > >> trials;-)
| > >> | > |
| > >> | > | DavidF
| > >> | > |
| > >> | > | "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote
in
| > >> | > message
| > >> | > | news:elz00MxRHHA.2124@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| > >> | > | > The only way to do this would be with frames, and Publisher
| > >> doesn't
| > >> | > | > support
| > >> | > | > frames (which are ugly anyway). JAlbum creates pages. Why not
make
| > >> | > JAlbums
| > >> | > | > pages match your existing page as much as possible then
create a
| > >> link
| > >> | > to
| > >> | > | > the
| > >> | > | > first index page of JAlbum...thats how I usually do it (but
not
| > >> with
| > >> | > | > Publisher - but it should work fine)
| > >> | > | >
| > >> | > | >
| > >> | > | > "brelade" <brelade@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
| > >> | > | > news:BBC75047-8359-431D-93D6-25D6610A2AD0@microsoft.com...
| > >> | > | > |I have down loaded JAlbum, and wish to insert in to my site.
| > >> | > | > | How do i insert JAlbum, but still keeping my page layout,
i.e
| > >> Header
| > >> | > &
| > >> | > | > Nav
| > >> | > | > | bar.
| > >> | > | > |
| > >> | > | > | If JAlbum is the wrong type of photo gallery for this, can
you
| > >> | > recommend
| > >> | > | > | another free programme, I just wish to insert it as a
portion of
| > >> the
| > >> | > | > page.
| > >> | > | > |
| > >> | > | > | Cheers
| > >> | > | > | --
| > >> | > | > | brelade
| > >> | > | >
| > >> | > | >
| > >> | > |
| > >> | > |
| > >> | >
| > >> | >
| > >> |
| > >> |
| > >>
| > >>
| > >
| > >
| >
| |
| brelade 2007-02-09, 6:16 pm |
| Rob, I am a little unsure what you mean, i have added this page to my
favourites, and it comes up ok.
The only other problem i am having, is i took your suggestion, and have down
loaded firefox, when i view the site with this, all is ok, except, i do not
see my drop down menu's, they have moved to the rear of the page, and
slightly out of line, is this something i have to live with.
I am able to see what browsers my vistiors have, and 95% are using IE, with
only a few with firefox, how do i get a happy medium, between the two
browsers?
With IE, all my nav menu's appear at the top, so i am hopeing that they can
always nav to a new page.
Any further advice would be most welcome.
Cheers
--
brelade
"Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
> Very cool looks good.
>
> The problem you're gonna run into with visitor is that they may end up here:
> http://www.breladecockerspaniels.co...lbum/index.html with no way
> home and the same thing if they book mark your page.
>
>
>
> "brelade" <brelade@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:CB7297E9-A150-496B-83C2-102DCBFDF6F9@microsoft.com...
> | Mike.
> | I have managed to insert a similar page on my site, with iframe & JAlbum
> | http://www.breladecockerspaniels.co...es/Page3116.htm
> | --
> | brelade
> |
> |
> | "Mike Koewler" wrote:
> |
> | > David,
> | >
> | > This page: http://anzz.co.uk/page15.html was done in WebPlus. Check out
> | > the albums. The pages use an i-frame to hold JAlbum so the designer
> | > could keep her banner on the page.
> | >
> | > I would think this would work fine in Pub also, though one would need to
> | > create the code for the i-frame.
> | >
> | > Mike
> | >
> | > DavidF wrote:
> | > > Try it yourself. Just create a blank web page with Publisher, insert
> the
> | > > code snippet and upload it to a test folder on your site. It will be a
> good
> | > > exercise, and remind you why its better to produce your site with
> | > > FrontPage.;-)
> | > >
> | > > Or are you going to migrate to Expression? What do you think of
> Expression?
> | > > I took a peek at SharePoint but couldn't get hold of a copy of
> Expression
> | > > during the Publisher beta.
> | > >
> | > > DavidF
> | > >
> | > > "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in
> message
> | > > news:OSwsndzRHHA.3412@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | > >> Didja publish it? I'd like to see the results if ya did.
> | > >>
> | > >>
> | > >>
> | > >>
> | > >> "DavidF" <Nope@nospam.com> wrote in message
> | > >> news:%23GKhTuyRHHA.4844@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | > >> | It does in at least three cases on my site...knock on wood ;-) I
> have
> | > >> tested
> | > >> | it in Pub 2000 and 2003 so far...
> | > >> |
> | > >> | DavidF
> | > >> |
> | > >> | "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in
> | > >> message
> | > >> | news:Ot7WqgyRHHA.4832@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> | > >> | > I'd be interested to see if it works!
> | > >> | >
> | > >> | >
> | > >> | >
> | > >> | > "DavidF" <Nope@nospam.com> wrote in message
> | > >> | > news:%231IuwXyRHHA.4252@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | > >> | > | Rob,
> | > >> | > |
> | > >> | > | Actually I have recently discovered that the statement
> "Publisher
> | > >> | > doesn't
> | > >> | > | support frames" to not be totally true, though I have typed the
> same
> | > >> | > thing
> | > >> | > | many times on this group. After following the thread with you
> and
> | > >> Mike
> | > >> | > and
> | > >> | > | the poster that had converted his whole Publisher web site to
> | > >> frames,
> | > >> I
> | > >> | > have
> | > >> | > | found another exception to the rule.
> | > >> | > |
> | > >> | > | You are correct that there is no built-in support for frames.
> You
> | > >> are
> | > >> | > also
> | > >> | > | correct that there are problems when web hosts frame Publisher
> | > >> websites,
> | > >> | > | especially if the sites use the wizard built menus with
> relative
> | > >> | > | links...they don't work. However, you can use iframes in a
> Publisher
> | > >> web
> | > >> | > | page by inserting the "proper" code into the page via the
> insert
> | > >> html
> | > >> | > code
> | > >> | > | fragment tool. I say "proper" cuz I don't pretend to understand
> the
> | > >> | > "proper"
> | > >> | > | way to write that code (or any code for that matter), but have
> had
> | > >> some
> | > >> | > | success with my testing. I also think you are correct in
> suggesting
> | > >> that
> | > >> | > the
> | > >> | > | best way is to link from your web page to the JAlbum, to insure
> the
> | > >> | > chance
> | > >> | > | of actually getting the album to load. And I am certainly not
> | > >> | > knowledgeable
> | > >> | > | enough to debate the use or the aesthetics of using frames or
> | > >> iframes...
> | > >> | > |
> | > >> | > | However, for the benefit of Brelade, here is one way to
> incorporate
> | > >> | > JAlbums
> | > >> | > | into Publisher web pages. First create a subfolder on your site
> (I
> | > >> used
> | > >> | > | "Album" at the root), and upload the html output from JAlbum
| | |