Microsoft Publisher - Publisher MVPs HELP!

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Publisher MVPs HELP!

Don Schmidt

2005-04-20, 12:34 pm

David, Ed, JoAnn, John,

Using Publisher 2000

What am I overlooking?

Please take a look at my site

www.vanusa.org

Tell me how to get ride of the Bold titles in the page links on all seven
pages and on page seven the Bold problem also shows up in the Tri-Mountain
listing and in the Tri-Mountain map, street identities.

I've verified the fonts are available and there doesn't seem to be any
overlapping in the affected pieces. And no, bold isn't selected in the Pub
file.

The only recent change is I went to Windows XP and reformatted my drives to
ntfs.

Reinstall Publisher?

--
Don
Vancouver, USA

JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]

2005-04-20, 12:34 pm

I don't use Publisher to do websites but I did see something odd. Your links
on the left look like Arial to me but the source indicates they are supposed
to be Comic Sans MS. When I tried to check it in FrontPage, it tells me the
links are .gifs.

I am so glad I use FrontPage. Sorry. I'm sure one of the guys will be able
to help you.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

"Don Schmidt" <RetiredEngineer@pnb.telco> wrote in message
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> David, Ed, JoAnn, John,
>
> Using Publisher 2000
>
> What am I overlooking?
>
> Please take a look at my site
>
> www.vanusa.org
>
> Tell me how to get ride of the Bold titles in the page links on all seven
> pages and on page seven the Bold problem also shows up in the Tri-Mountain
> listing and in the Tri-Mountain map, street identities.
>
> I've verified the fonts are available and there doesn't seem to be any
> overlapping in the affected pieces. And no, bold isn't selected in the
> Pub file.
>
>
> The only recent change is I went to Windows XP and reformatted my drives
> to ntfs.
>
> Reinstall Publisher?
>
> --
> Don
> Vancouver, USA
>

Don Schmidt

2005-04-20, 12:34 pm

Strange. The links are in Verdana font. Well, supposed to be.

--
Don
Vancouver, USA

"JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" <jl_amerson@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:B-6dnd1x1KyGSvzfRVn-tg@suscom.com...
>I don't use Publisher to do websites but I did see something odd. Your
>links on the left look like Arial to me but the source indicates they are
>supposed to be Comic Sans MS. When I tried to check it in FrontPage, it
>tells me the links are .gifs.
>
> I am so glad I use FrontPage. Sorry. I'm sure one of the guys will be able
> to help you.
>
> --
>
> JoAnn Paules
> MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
>
>
>
> "Don Schmidt" <RetiredEngineer@pnb.telco> wrote in message
> news:1163ksnm9s1ea2b@corp.supernews.com...
>
>

Mary Sauer

2005-04-20, 12:34 pm

I saved your image, when I view it in Irfanview the words are no longer bold and they
do appear to be Verdana. The seven links downloads as one gif,

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com
"Don Schmidt" <RetiredEngineer@pnb.telco> wrote in message
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> Strange. The links are in Verdana font. Well, supposed to be.
>
>
> --
> Don
> Vancouver, USA
>
>
> "JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" <jl_amerson@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:B-6dnd1x1KyGSvzfRVn-tg@suscom.com...
>
>

DavidF

2005-04-20, 12:34 pm

Hi Don,

You have probably identified the problem yourself...overlapping page
elements, which converts the text to an image, and makes it appear 'bold'.

This is most obvious with the Tri-Mountain ad has two small images within
the text box, which converts the text box to an image. The same is probably
true of the map, though it is not as obvious what is overlapping.

I imagine the problem with your nav bar is caused by the small images to the
left of the text. Once again this converts the text to an image and renders
it 'bold' in appearance. Are you trying to insert the small images in-line?
Perhaps insert your pictures beside the text box and use the snap to
function to prevent overlapping.

Perhaps run the Design Checker to spot where you have the overlapping issues
if you can't spot them.

DavidF

"Don Schmidt" <RetiredEngineer@pnb.telco> wrote in message
news:1163ksnm9s1ea2b@corp.supernews.com...
> David, Ed, JoAnn, John,
>
> Using Publisher 2000
>
> What am I overlooking?
>
> Please take a look at my site
>
> www.vanusa.org
>
> Tell me how to get ride of the Bold titles in the page links on all seven
> pages and on page seven the Bold problem also shows up in the Tri-Mountain
> listing and in the Tri-Mountain map, street identities.
>
> I've verified the fonts are available and there doesn't seem to be any
> overlapping in the affected pieces. And no, bold isn't selected in the
Pub
> file.
>
>
> The only recent change is I went to Windows XP and reformatted my drives
to
> ntfs.
>
> Reinstall Publisher?
>
> --
> Don
> Vancouver, USA
>
>

Don Schmidt

2005-04-20, 12:34 pm

Thanks for the suggestions David.

The thing is it all looked ok until I upgraded to Windows XP.

I reinstalled Publisher 2000
Just got through updating my display driver.
Rebuilt the entire website.

Tried removing the graphics in the Tri-Mountain text box without curing that
part.

I'm thinking XP and Pub 2000 may have an issue. ??

--
Don
"Some mornings it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps."

"DavidF" <Nope@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:Ov5QQF1QFHA.1932@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Hi Don,
>
> You have probably identified the problem yourself...overlapping page
> elements, which converts the text to an image, and makes it appear 'bold'.
>
> This is most obvious with the Tri-Mountain ad has two small images within
> the text box, which converts the text box to an image. The same is
> probably
> true of the map, though it is not as obvious what is overlapping.
>
> I imagine the problem with your nav bar is caused by the small images to
> the
> left of the text. Once again this converts the text to an image and
> renders
> it 'bold' in appearance. Are you trying to insert the small images
> in-line?
> Perhaps insert your pictures beside the text box and use the snap to
> function to prevent overlapping.
>
> Perhaps run the Design Checker to spot where you have the overlapping
> issues
> if you can't spot them.
>
> DavidF
>
> "Don Schmidt" <RetiredEngineer@pnb.telco> wrote in message
> news:1163ksnm9s1ea2b@corp.supernews.com...
> Pub
> to
>
>

DavidF

2005-04-20, 12:34 pm

Well, I am not having any problems running Pub 2000 on my XP machine, so I
don't think there is any basic incompatibility there.

I looked at your Tri Mountain ad again and see that you took away the
border, but you still have the ?golf hole flag? and the ?golf bag? images
overlapping the text box, which has converted the text to an image. If you
try to select any of the text, you can't, but you can right click it and
save it as an image, while right below you have a text box where you can
select the text.

Now why this looked different before the conversion to XP, I don't know. Is
it possible that you somehow, someway changed the Target Audience setting
under Web Properties? David Bartosik recently pointed out to me that you
could actually overlap an image, without converting the text to an image if
you used the 'High fidelity" setting for IE and Navigator 4.0 or later. You
might try generating some test html files under the higher setting and see
if that helps. Are you using a newer version of IE now?

Sorry, but I don't have a better answer for you, but perhaps THE MAN, David
Bartosik will.

DavidF

"Don Schmidt" <RetiredEngineer@pnb.telco> wrote in message
news:11652md5irsmv82@corp.supernews.com...
> Thanks for the suggestions David.
>
> The thing is it all looked ok until I upgraded to Windows XP.
>
> I reinstalled Publisher 2000
> Just got through updating my display driver.
> Rebuilt the entire website.
>
> Tried removing the graphics in the Tri-Mountain text box without curing
that
> part.
>
> I'm thinking XP and Pub 2000 may have an issue. ??
>
>
> --
> Don
> "Some mornings it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps."
>
>
>
> "DavidF" <Nope@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:Ov5QQF1QFHA.1932@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
'bold'.[color=darkred]
within[color=darkred]
seven[color=darkred]
drives[color=darkred]
>
>

Don Schmidt

2005-04-20, 12:34 pm

You lost me on the "High fidelity" try.

What I thought I might do is take piece parts out of the site until the link
list displays correctly, then make adjustments or changes on the offending
piece parts.

The images in the link list are replacements to the Christmas Tree ornaments
that were there. The site is basically the red and green Christmas theme
page near the end of the offerings in Publisher 2000.

Thanks again for your suggestions.

--
Don
"Some mornings it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps."

"DavidF" <Nope@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:uF1ulM7QFHA.1980@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Well, I am not having any problems running Pub 2000 on my XP machine, so I
> don't think there is any basic incompatibility there.
>
> I looked at your Tri Mountain ad again and see that you took away the
> border, but you still have the ?golf hole flag? and the ?golf bag? images
> overlapping the text box, which has converted the text to an image. If you
> try to select any of the text, you can't, but you can right click it and
> save it as an image, while right below you have a text box where you can
> select the text.
>
> Now why this looked different before the conversion to XP, I don't know.
> Is
> it possible that you somehow, someway changed the Target Audience setting
> under Web Properties? David Bartosik recently pointed out to me that you
> could actually overlap an image, without converting the text to an image
> if
> you used the 'High fidelity" setting for IE and Navigator 4.0 or later.
> You
> might try generating some test html files under the higher setting and see
> if that helps. Are you using a newer version of IE now?
>
> Sorry, but I don't have a better answer for you, but perhaps THE MAN,
> David
> Bartosik will.
>
> DavidF
>
> "Don Schmidt" <RetiredEngineer@pnb.telco> wrote in message
> news:11652md5irsmv82@corp.supernews.com...
> that
> 'bold'.
> within
> seven
> drives
>
>

DavidF

2005-04-20, 12:34 pm

Don,
Sorry I was not more clear. Open your pub document. Go to File > Web
Properties > Target Audience. There you have two choices. Choose the second
'Microsoft Internet Explorer Netscape Navigator 4.0 or later (high
fidelity). Then do a 'Save as a Web Page' to create new html files, and see
if that helps. I am just guessing here...

Though I had built my site using the first option, I experimented with the
second and found I could overlap images with text boxes without creating
gifs. However, it also produced some other issues I didn't like. If you want
to read the thread, it was one you started on 3/21/05 Creating Text boxes
above text boxes.

DavidF

"Don Schmidt" <RetiredEngineer@pnb.telco> wrote in message
news:1166cjm3i4pc781@corp.supernews.com...
> You lost me on the "High fidelity" try.
>
> What I thought I might do is take piece parts out of the site until the
link
> list displays correctly, then make adjustments or changes on the offending
> piece parts.
>
> The images in the link list are replacements to the Christmas Tree
ornaments
> that were there. The site is basically the red and green Christmas theme
> page near the end of the offerings in Publisher 2000.
>
> Thanks again for your suggestions.
>
>
> --
> Don
> "Some mornings it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps."
>
>
>
> "DavidF" <Nope@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:uF1ulM7QFHA.1980@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
I[color=darkred]
images[color=darkred]
you[color=darkred]
setting[color=darkred]
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any[color=darkred]
>
>

David Bartosik [MSFT MVP]

2005-04-20, 12:34 pm

each of the menu links is a gif image that includes the character. If you
look close enough you can see the character has a gray background instead of
transparent and it's a different gray then the page background. Looks like
the text is layered and grouped to the character image and so each button is
a gif and font changed in the image conversion. Looks like David F. has
covered this already. Windows XP as the OS would not effect the Publisher
file nor the html output. The one thing that would change is that Windows XP
loads IE 6, so if you had an older browser prior, then now you are using the
latest one.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
http://www.publishermvps.com
http://www.davidbartosik.com

"Don Schmidt" <RetiredEngineer@pnb.telco> wrote in message
news:1163ksnm9s1ea2b@corp.supernews.com...
> David, Ed, JoAnn, John,
>
> Using Publisher 2000
>
> What am I overlooking?
>
> Please take a look at my site
>
> www.vanusa.org
>
> Tell me how to get ride of the Bold titles in the page links on all seven
> pages and on page seven the Bold problem also shows up in the Tri-Mountain
> listing and in the Tri-Mountain map, street identities.
>
> I've verified the fonts are available and there doesn't seem to be any
> overlapping in the affected pieces. And no, bold isn't selected in the
> Pub file.
>
>
> The only recent change is I went to Windows XP and reformatted my drives
> to ntfs.
>
> Reinstall Publisher?
>
> --
> Don
> Vancouver, USA
>

Don Schmidt

2005-04-20, 12:34 pm

Thanks for the analysis David. The Bocce Man icon is a gif file I built by
scanning the image then converting the background color, then substituting
the original Christmas Tree ornament on the links menu. When right clicking
on the original image, it offered to change the image, so I did it.
Presently, I've copied the website to a "work" folder where I'll do some
dissecting and experimenting. Hope to build a better display.

BTW I tried David F's suggesting of High Fidelity and text got moved all
over the place.

Take care,

--
Don
Vancouver, USA

"David Bartosik [MSFT MVP]" <dbartosik@communities.nospam.com> wrote in
message news:eb0iopDRFHA.3336@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> each of the menu links is a gif image that includes the character. If you
> look close enough you can see the character has a gray background instead
> of transparent and it's a different gray then the page background. Looks
> like the text is layered and grouped to the character image and so each
> button is a gif and font changed in the image conversion. Looks like David
> F. has covered this already. Windows XP as the OS would not effect the
> Publisher file nor the html output. The one thing that would change is
> that Windows XP loads IE 6, so if you had an older browser prior, then now
> you are using the latest one.
>
> David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
> http://www.publishermvps.com
> http://www.davidbartosik.com
>
> "Don Schmidt" <RetiredEngineer@pnb.telco> wrote in message
> news:1163ksnm9s1ea2b@corp.supernews.com...
>
>