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DaveNYC

2004-07-28, 11:15 pm

My pages are all around 20-25kb in size and 'reports' is telling me that they're taking up to 90 seconds to load for 56k moden.. I use one gif for the banner which has been optimized and my nav buttons really aren't that big a deal. No flash, no music, n
o jpg's. I've tried re-sizing my gif banner to 75 ppi and it reduces to postage stamp size. I don't get it, I have one page that has an auto shape rectangle on it - that's it - and the program is telling me that I'm 9 seconds over 56k. What am I doing
wrong? Thanks. Also, I'm using the exact same graphics on every page, will this make a difference?

Thomas A. Rowe

2004-07-28, 11:15 pm

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"DaveNYC" <DaveNYC@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:AFA1270A-891E-4B81-817D-CD9B10992BD8@microsoft.com...
> My pages are all around 20-25kb in size and 'reports' is telling me that they're taking up to 90
seconds to load for 56k moden.. I use one gif for the banner which has been optimized and my nav
buttons really aren't that big a deal. No flash, no music, no jpg's. I've tried re-sizing my gif
banner to 75 ppi and it reduces to postage stamp size. I don't get it, I have one page that has an
auto shape rectangle on it - that's it - and the program is telling me that I'm 9 seconds over 56k.
What am I doing wrong? Thanks. Also, I'm using the exact same graphics on every page, will this
make a difference?

Crash Gordon®

2004-07-29, 4:15 am

Also, how are you resizing and optimizing?

"DaveNYC" <DaveNYC@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message =
news:AFA1270A-891E-4B81-817D-CD9B10992BD8@microsoft.com...
| My pages are all around 20-25kb in size and 'reports' is telling me =
that they're taking up to 90 seconds to load for 56k moden.. I use one =
gif for the banner which has been optimized and my nav buttons really =
aren't that big a deal. No flash, no music, no jpg's. I've tried =
re-sizing my gif banner to 75 ppi and it reduces to postage stamp size. =
I don't get it, I have one page that has an auto shape rectangle on it - =
that's it - and the program is telling me that I'm 9 seconds over 56k. =
What am I doing wrong? Thanks. Also, I'm using the exact same graphics =
on every page, will this make a difference?

DaveNYC

2004-07-29, 4:15 am

o URL, I'm just getting ready to publish. I'm using PaintShop Pro's GIF Optimizer, cutting back to 16 colors (using yellow, red and blue) When I try to resize to 76ppi, the image goes down to postage stamp size and when I enlarge it, it's mush. I've re
ad all the books, done all the turorials, even submitted one of the graphics to a "graphic optimizer" and they gave me back a gif that was basically black and white. I don't tet it. There's not that much 'going on' in my site - in fact, there's nothing.
I did my own buttons, but optimized them down to .6 second download so I don't think that's it. I'm really confused.

"Crash GordonÂ®" wrote:

> Also, how are you resizing and optimizing?
>
> "DaveNYC" <DaveNYC@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:AFA1270A-891E-4B81-817D-CD9B10992BD8@microsoft.com...
> | My pages are all around 20-25kb in size and 'reports' is telling me that they're taking up to 90 seconds to load for 56k moden.. I use one gif for the banner which has been optimized and my nav buttons really aren't that big a deal. No flash, no musi
c, no jpg's. I've tried re-sizing my gif banner to 75 ppi and it reduces to postage stamp size. I don't get it, I have one page that has an auto shape rectangle on it - that's it - and the program is telling me that I'm 9 seconds over 56k. What am I d
oing wrong? Thanks. Also, I'm using the exact same graphics on every page, will this make a difference?
>

chris leeds

2004-07-29, 4:15 am

put it up and we'll be happy to look. you could be getting false readings
on the timer/ estimator.

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"DaveNYC" <DaveNYC@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:44C43C47-1868-47A8-A493-5627440D9B2F@microsoft.com...
> o URL, I'm just getting ready to publish. I'm using PaintShop Pro's GIF
Optimizer, cutting back to 16 colors (using yellow, red and blue) When I
try to resize to 76ppi, the image goes down to postage stamp size and when I
enlarge it, it's mush. I've read all the books, done all the turorials,
even submitted one of the graphics to a "graphic optimizer" and they gave me
back a gif that was basically black and white. I don't tet it. There's not
that much 'going on' in my site - in fact, there's nothing. I did my own
buttons, but optimized them down to .6 second download so I don't think
that's it. I'm really confused.[color=darkred]
>
> "Crash Gordon®" wrote:
>
news:AFA1270A-891E-4B81-817D-CD9B10992BD8@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
that they're taking up to 90 seconds to load for 56k moden.. I use one gif
for the banner which has been optimized and my nav buttons really aren't
that big a deal. No flash, no music, no jpg's. I've tried re-sizing my gif
banner to 75 ppi and it reduces to postage stamp size. I don't get it, I
have one page that has an auto shape rectangle on it - that's it - and the
program is telling me that I'm 9 seconds over 56k. What am I doing wrong?
Thanks. Also, I'm using the exact same graphics on every page, will this
make a difference?[color=darkred]

Ronx

2004-07-29, 7:15 am

In my experience the load times in Reports are over-estimates, and the load
times shown when editing pages are under-estimates. The true figure (for my
pages) is in between, but nearer the "edit view" estimate. (For one of my
pages: Reports 23 secs., Edit View 5 secs., Actual [downloaded and
rendered] 12 secs. The page is 15KB, 8 images, plus external JavaScript and
CSS).

Since you are using the same images (.gif and .jpg) in all pages, the first
page will take longer to load than the rest - the images will be loaded from
the browser's cache (except for VML graphics, which are embedded in the
page.)

You may want to consider removing the auto-shape: this uses VML graphics
which are only visible in IE5.0 and later, and may be adding a lot to the
rendering time for that page.

Ron
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"DaveNYC" <DaveNYC@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:AFA1270A-891E-4B81-817D-CD9B10992BD8@microsoft.com...
> My pages are all around 20-25kb in size and 'reports' is telling me that
they're taking up to 90 seconds to load for 56k moden.. I use one gif for
the banner which has been optimized and my nav buttons really aren't that
big a deal. No flash, no music, no jpg's. I've tried re-sizing my gif
banner to 75 ppi and it reduces to postage stamp size. I don't get it, I
have one page that has an auto shape rectangle on it - that's it - and the
program is telling me that I'm 9 seconds over 56k. What am I doing wrong?
Thanks. Also, I'm using the exact same graphics on every page, will this
make a difference?

Crash Gordon®

2004-07-29, 7:15 pm

First, don't rely on the download time estimate thingie.

Don't keep resizing...or you will have mud on your hands - with any =
lossy format. Resize & optimize is the last thing you want to do before =
you put it into your design.

Don't get hung up on download times in the beginning, get the site up so =
we can see it - then we can help mo' betta :-)

"DaveNYC" <DaveNYC@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message =
news:44C43C47-1868-47A8-A493-5627440D9B2F@microsoft.com...
| o URL, I'm just getting ready to publish. I'm using PaintShop Pro's =
GIF Optimizer, cutting back to 16 colors (using yellow, red and blue) =
When I try to resize to 76ppi, the image goes down to postage stamp size =
and when I enlarge it, it's mush. I've read all the books, done all the =
turorials, even submitted one of the graphics to a "graphic optimizer" =
and they gave me back a gif that was basically black and white. I don't =
tet it. There's not that much 'going on' in my site - in fact, there's =
nothing. I did my own buttons, but optimized them down to .6 second =
download so I don't think that's it. I'm really confused.
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| "Crash Gordon=C2=AE" wrote:
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| > Also, how are you resizing and optimizing?
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| > "DaveNYC" <DaveNYC@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message =
news:AFA1270A-891E-4B81-817D-CD9B10992BD8@microsoft.com...
| > | My pages are all around 20-25kb in size and 'reports' is telling =
me that they're taking up to 90 seconds to load for 56k moden.. I use =
one gif for the banner which has been optimized and my nav buttons =
really aren't that big a deal. No flash, no music, no jpg's. I've =
tried re-sizing my gif banner to 75 ppi and it reduces to postage stamp =
size. I don't get it, I have one page that has an auto shape rectangle =
on it - that's it - and the program is telling me that I'm 9 seconds =
over 56k. What am I doing wrong? Thanks. Also, I'm using the exact =
same graphics on every page, will this make a difference?
| >