Flash Site Design - Color movies inferior. Directors responsible?

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Color movies inferior. Directors responsible?

nealaus

2004-03-04, 1:29 pm

<parody>

Let me get some things established up front: I am not a radio producer. I am
not a movie director. I have no 'stake' -- personal, political, or 'other' --
in seeing color and "talkie" movie technologies live or die -- other than: I
know what kind of entertainment I like (Radio, Silent Film) and I know which
kind I DON'T LIKE (Full color talkies).

Since day one, I have hated Full color movies with sound. I could probably
count the number of 'good' ones I have seen on one hand, and have several
fingers remaining, IF I could recall ANY GOOD ONES at all!

Instead, what I remember are all the rest: too-intense,
too-hard-to-understand, over-produced, over-directed pure BLOAT, that appear to
be designed by people who think the technology (Color and Sound) is the end,
not the means.

Don't you directors realize this makes YOU *AND* YOUR TECHNOLOGY look bad?! Do
you want to be noted for using the technology that concentrates more on
_presentation_ than on _content_?! (rhetorical questions, both: your works
already speak for you.)

</parody>

Spinethetic

2004-03-04, 2:32 pm

[q]
The #1 issue that has annoyed the crap out of me since day one, and FINALLY
has prompted me to register for this forum and give you all my $.02 on your
development work (now that several years have passed and you don't seem to show
ANY sign of being able to address this issue on your own (or of even being
aware it's a deficiency, for that matter...)):
[/q]

It (Flash) is not a defiency, it is a highly evolved technology that is
constantly expanding and progressing AS WE SPEAK! Of course some people abuse
it, prime example:[L=5 SEC Studio]http://5sec.com[/L], as of currently the site
seems to be all about the animation and presentation of information that is of
quite a bit lesser value. (no offense if the 5sec designer happens to use these
forums) But there are also other sites that i believe provide adiquite
presentation to reveal LOADS of helpful content and images spaced and organized
just right to provide the rare (but successful) infusement of appropriate
information and innovative animation as one complete multimedia experience.
example(s)
[L=2Advanced]http://2advanced.com[/L]
[L=4D Studios]http://4dstudios.tk[/L]
[L=Foundstone]http://foundstone.com[/L](integrated w/ html)

So you see, unless abused by an unknowing developer, Flash technology is way
beyond just a static interface, once infused,programmed, planned, and layed out
in the proper manner with corresponding presentation, Flash can have virtually
endless possabilities. As web design and the Internet progresses as well this
will prove more and more difficult to develop a practical flash experience as
the biggest concept behind web and flash design is to create something that is
innovative, presents useful information and clearly layed out in a design that
is not already duplicated, BUT STILL present it in a fashionable way that suits
the company/organization. And if, and ONLY if you can achieve this, then the
developer has absolutely nothing to be ashamed of by using Flash technology.

RedAntMedia

2004-03-05, 6:28 pm

Spinethetic

2004-03-08, 10:29 am

[q][i]Originally posted by: [b][b]RedAntMedia[/b][/b][/i]
<applause>
Amen to that.
</applause>

Also, I must say that you DID list a set of good sites, as well.[/q]

I made the one in the middle,
[L=4D Studios]http://4dstudios.tk[/L]

RedAntMedia

2004-03-11, 7:31 pm

I'd seen the site, before, and was pretty impressed with it - both from the developer's point of view, and from the random surfer's pov.

What other media are you using? 3DSMax, etc....

Spinethetic

2004-03-12, 11:33 am

For 3D i use Swift 3D and random integration with precisionly shaped graphics in Fireworks MX, i have photoshop but iam still learning at it.

RedAntMedia

2004-03-30, 9:09 pm

Ah, yes. The ever-so-beloved Photoshop.

Probably one of the best hraphics programs ever made. I use it extensively in
almost everything that I do.

I'm playing with integrating 3DSMax into Flash, but I'm sacrificing file-size
for visual effects.

Kinda crappy trade off, but it has some SERIOUS advantages (on the GUI side,
anyway).

Swift3d, huh? Hm. I think I have that, but not sure. Where can I pick that
up, if not?

Ant
Red.Ant.Media

rlc5611

2004-03-30, 9:10 pm

I personally love the flexibility of Flash. I also see so many "check site"
postings in these forums that come from people who are doing nothing more than
trying to out-Flash each other. Did I mention I am not a designer?

Let me just say to the designers - love your work.

I ask you one favor, however.

When your site is all done and published, ask yourself one simple question. Is
the information on the site now easier to get to or harder? So far the internet
is still about information. Sexy FX are nice but I don't often revisit a site
just to see them.

If I am surfing through the TV, I can understand why advertisers spend so much
money to get my finger off the remote. I cannot channel surf the web. If I went
to your site, I did it for a reason. 90% of sites are visited through a search
engine or so they tell me. It is highly likely then that I am searching for
something specific. Get my attention with a brilliant intro but then tone it
down. Okay you got my attention. But if I have to wait for a long movie load or
I cannot easily get the info I want, I'm gone to the next site on the search
list. Unless you are putting things like "neat FX" or "brilliant button
effects" in your metatags, you can bet nobody is visiting your site just to see
them.

There are a lot of brilliant designers out there. There are even more really
bad ones (me included). Flash is here to stay. The internet is evolving. The
people working in Flash today will be the movers and shakers of the next
internet. What are the three most important things on the internet? content,
content, content. Without it, the internet is just one big virtual Amway
meeting.