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| We just completed a website using Dreamweaver and Flash. There's a Flash intro
to the site and some on the welcome page. My question is has anyone heard of in
having Flash open preventing search engines from finding a site? All of the
keywords associated with the site were placed in the index. When the url is put
in there's no problem the site comes up. I'm perplexed as to why it's not
coming up when using the keywords. The site has been submitted to Lycos, Alta
Vista, Inktomi, Yahoo and Ask Jeeves.
Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
srsix
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| Gary White 2004-03-03, 2:29 pm |
| On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 17:22:29 +0000 (UTC), "srsix"
<webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote:
>We just completed a website using Dreamweaver and Flash. There's a Flash intro
>to the site and some on the welcome page. My question is has anyone heard of in
>having Flash open preventing search engines from finding a site? All of the
>keywords associated with the site were placed in the index. When the url is put
>in there's no problem the site comes up. I'm perplexed as to why it's not
>coming up when using the keywords. The site has been submitted to Lycos, Alta
>Vista, Inktomi, Yahoo and Ask Jeeves.
You don't want to forget Google. They generate far more hits to my sites
than all the others combined. Search engines, for the most part, don't
pay any attention to meta keywords any more because of the way they've
been abused in the past. What they do pay attention to is content. Of
course, all your content inside the Flash movie is invisible to them.
Gary
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| Thanks for the info.
Are there any workarounds or will I have to convert the page to html? and will that kill the current flash intro as it appears now?
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| Gary White 2004-03-03, 8:28 pm |
| On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 20:12:47 +0000 (UTC), "srsix"
<webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote:
>Thanks for the info.
>Are there any workarounds or will I have to convert the page to html?
>and will that kill the current flash intro as it appears now?
I personally do not like entry/splash pages, Flash or not, but that's
just me. I know there are many others who feel the same way. All they do
is put another page in between the user and any information they might
want.
That said, if you have a skip intro link in HTML, not in the Flash
movie, a search engine spider will follow that link. If there is text
content on the linked page, the search engine will index that. So
basically, what I'm saying is that, if the site has text that can be
indexed, you should be fine, provided there are links that the search
engine can follow. If the content is all in Flash, there is nothing you
can do to make it visible.
Gary
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| Mad Dog 2004-03-03, 8:28 pm |
| You can also do the old trick of putting an HTML link to the second page (or
your whole menu if you like) and put it in an unobtrusive place, making it
the same color as your background so it will be seen by the crawlers and
spiders but not the viewer.
MD
srsix wrote:
> Thanks for the info.
> Are there any workarounds or will I have to convert the page to html?
> and will that kill the current flash intro as it appears now?
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| Gary White 2004-03-03, 9:28 pm |
| "Mad Dog" <md@mdp.com> wrote in message
news:c25so8$4k9$1@forums.macromedia.com...
> You can also do the old trick of putting an HTML link to the second page
(or
> your whole menu if you like) and put it in an unobtrusive place, making it
> the same color as your background so it will be seen by the crawlers and
> spiders but not the viewer.
That does run the risk of a search engine evaluating an invisible link as
an attempt to trick them and they can ban the site altogether.
Gary
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| Mad Dog 2004-03-03, 9:28 pm |
| One li'l ole hyperlink? Most of the designers I know do it when they have
Flash navigation and I haven't heard of a problem as long as it's not on
every page of the site or too much of it.
Gary White wrote:
> "Mad Dog" <md@mdp.com> wrote in message
> news:c25so8$4k9$1@forums.macromedia.com...
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> That does run the risk of a search engine evaluating an invisible
> link as an attempt to trick them and they can ban the site altogether.
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> Gary
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| Mad Dog 2004-03-03, 9:28 pm |
| I may be wrong here, but in re-reading this you say you "just completed" the
site and you're wondering why it's not turning up in the searches. Besides
the fact that it may be difficult to be near the top of the search, it can
take search engines anywhere from days to several months to get around to
indexing you, so if you haven't given it a good bit of time it's too early
to worry anyway.
MD
srsix wrote:
> We just completed a website using Dreamweaver and Flash. There's a
> Flash intro to the site and some on the welcome page. My question is
> has anyone heard of in having Flash open preventing search engines
> from finding a site? All of the keywords associated with the site
> were placed in the index. When the url is put in there's no problem
> the site comes up. I'm perplexed as to why it's not coming up when
> using the keywords. The site has been submitted to Lycos, Alta Vista,
> Inktomi, Yahoo and Ask Jeeves.
>
> Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
>
> srsix
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| Gary White 2004-03-03, 11:28 pm |
| "Mad Dog" <md@mdp.com> wrote in message
news:c25vl7$88a$1@forums.macromedia.com...
> One li'l ole hyperlink? Most of the designers I know do it when they have
> Flash navigation and I haven't heard of a problem as long as it's not on
> every page of the site or too much of it.
I agree that it's not likely to be a problem, but the possibility exists.
Gary
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| Nadia Perre 2004-03-04, 3:28 am |
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"srsix" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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The site has been submitted to Lycos, Alta
| Vista, Inktomi, Yahoo and Ask Jeeves.
SE's don't like flash pages - sorry. In your SE list, you did not mention
dmoz or google.
The very first place to submit is to dmoz and pick a specific category
relating to your website content. Google and a few other SEs feed of the
dmoz directory.
I have quite a few articles relating to SEO on my site.. follow the
dreamweaver resources link in my sig..
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| davidoc 2007-05-05, 2:53 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by srsix
We just completed a website using Dreamweaver and Flash. There's a Flash intro
to the site and some on the welcome page. My question is has anyone heard of in
having Flash open preventing search engines from finding a site? All of the
keywords associated with the site were placed in the index. When the url is put
in there's no problem the site comes up. I'm perplexed as to why it's not
coming up when using the keywords. The site has been submitted to Lycos, Alta
Vista, Inktomi, Yahoo and Ask Jeeves.
Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
srsix
This problem was visible on different search engines, but after 2005 Google has even started crawling swf files just like a html page.
In case there is some static text in your .swf file then google will easily crawl your text including links. However dynamic text is not yet supported by Google |
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